Talk:Dessert

Needs copyediting/rewrite

This article is a goddamn embarrassment. It reads like it was written by an illiterate. Almost every sentence has missing words or statements that aren't supported by the citation. The article needs to be rewritten.98.206.218.218 (talk) 04:29, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

I thought to myself, "would it be too much for me to go to the talk page and say that this article is completely idiotic?" No. No it would not be too much. It should be deleted or turned into a stub. 98.246.154.230 (talk) 06:05, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

This article certainly needs improving, especially in respect of the introduction. Perhaps a complete revision of the article as a whole from a less western centric view point --Dreylax01 (talk) 20:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

The article states "There is a wide variety of desserts in western cultures". This statement is confined to western cultures, while it says "Dessert", not "Western dessert". This article should be rewritten to have desserts from cultures all around the world, not just western cultures. I will work on parts of the article to repair its mistakes. Sipslice11 (talk) 00:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Usage exception section

Is this really important enough to go into this article? Weleyan religious communities in S Indiana euphemistically refer to alcohol as dessert? valereee (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

History section

...needs a complete rewrite. valereee (talk) 13:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

lovetoknow.com

ChamithN, I question the reliability of that Delp article -- I removed that reference earlier today because a lot of what she's saying (like that fruit or nuts rolled into honey was considered the "first candy") just seems a little dubious. She says filo dough "was common in ancient times being recorded as early as the early 1300's." That's not actually "ancient." There are multiple grammar, punctuation etc. errors in the piece. I don't know what lovetoknow.com even is -- their About section says, "LoveToKnow is an online media company that owns and operates a family of web sites dedicated to providing high quality, useful information to Internet users." So to me that's basically a blog or something? valereee (talk) 01:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Valereee: Frankly I didn't entirely know about lovetoknow.com either. I did a Google search and that's the only self-published sourced I came across that mentioned about ancient deserts such as honeycombs, nuts and fruits. After reading your explanation, I went back and read the reference myself and I think your decision to remove that source is completely justified. Though it doesn't (and it didn't, at the time) seem like a blog to me, I don't think we can count it as a reliable source. Thank you for pointing this out and I'll be more vigilance when I'm looking for sources again. Cheers --Chamith (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@ChamithN:, it can be so hard to tell with some of these online ones. Even ones that look like newspapers sometimes turn out to be one guy working out of his house with a few stringers. Seriously, it looked fine on first glance to me, too. It was only on reading it, when I realized there were multiple typos, that I started to question some of her assertions. I've just ordered a book from the library called 'The History of Dessert' which I'll see if I can use to help flesh out the references for that section, too! Maybe the book will confirm her assertions.  :) valereee (talk) 14:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

What does this have to do with dessert?

"Frozen foods became very popular starting in the 1920s when freezing emerged." GeneCallahan (talk) 04:38, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't that BE the dessert course?

"Throughout much of central and western Africa, there is no tradition of a dessert course following a meal.[18][19] Fruit or fruit salad would be eaten instead, which may be spiced, or sweetened with a sauce."

OK, it sounds like they have fruit for dessert, not like they don't have dessert. GeneCallahan (talk) 04:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)