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Tī chia chò it-poaⁿ-sèng ê thó-lūn. Chhiáⁿ ē-kì-tit chhiam-miâ. Koan-hē pán-bīn ê Hō-ló-oē hoan-e̍k būn-tê, kiàn-gī, téng-téng, chhiáⁿ chīn-liōng lī-iōng kok-pia̍t bûn-kù ê thó-lūn-ia̍h (Talk). Tōa-pō͘-hūn ê pán-bīn sìn-sit tī Special:Allmessages. Khui sin gī-tê

Kū thó-lūn

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• Chhng-khò͘ 1: 2005 nî 6 go̍eh í-chêng
• Chhng-khò͘ 2: 2005 nî 7 go̍eh kàu 2005 nî 12 go̍eh
• Chhng-khò͘ 3: 2006 nî 1 goe̍h kàu 2006 nî 6 goe̍h
• Chhng-khò͘ 4: 2006 nî 7 goe̍h kàu 2006 nî 12 goe̍h
• Chhng-khò͘ 5: 2007 nî
• Chhng-khò͘ 6: 2008 nî kàu 2013 nî
• Chhng-khò͘ 7: 2014 nî
• Chhng-khò͘ 8: 2015 nî

Happy Public Domain Day 2016!

Feel free to translate this message in your language!

On January 1 we celebrate Public Domain Day as many works of authors who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.

Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art, literature, public art and buildings in countries without freedom of panorama, and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from copyrights!

An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia Commons, are collected on: this page.

Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!

You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of copyrights.
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the category when the file can be restored, which will be/was deleted.

As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add them yourselves.

A very happy Public Domain Day! Romaine (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 6) 13:21 (UTC)

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Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon!

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A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:

• Wikimania 2016 Scholarships

Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 5-ji̍t (Pài 2) 01:49 (UTC)

The visual editor is coming to this wiki

Hello again. Please excuse the English. Please help translate to your language. 感謝您!

The visual editor is coming to all editors at this Wikipedia on Monday, 25 January. It allows people to edit Wikipedia articles as if they were using word processing software.

You don't have to wait until the deployment to test it; you can test the visual editor right now. To turn it on, select "Beta" in your preferences. Choose "VisualEditor" and click save. When it is enabled, you will press the "Siu-kái" button to edit an article in the new software. To use the wikitext editor, you can press "kái goân-sú-bé".

After the deployment, everyone will automatically have the option to use either the visual editor or the current wikitext editor. For more information about how to use the visual editor, see mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide.

More information about preparing for the visual editor is posted here.

• It's easier to add templates if you've added TemplateData information.
• Please help translate the user interface and pages about the visual editor. See the visual editor's TranslationCentral for general information. To translate the user guide, go to the MediaWiki.org page, and select "翻譯此頁面". Your language should be available from the drop-down menu on the right. Once you've done this, you'll see the document in English side by side with any translation work already done in your language. You can add new translations or change old translations. To translate the user interface, you need to create an account at translatewiki.net. Contact me personally if you need help with that.
• Please let us know if you find any problems. You can report issues in Phabricator, the new bug tracking system or on the central feedback page on MediaWiki.org. If you notice major issues affecting your project, please leave a note on my talk page. In case of emergency (like an unexpected bug causing widespread problems), please contact James Forrester, the product manager, at jforrester@wikimedia.org or on IRC in the #mediawiki-visualeditor channel.

Wrong target page? Fix it here • Sign up for the visual editor's multilingual newsletter

Thank you, and happy editing! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 15-ji̍t (Pài 5) 18:20 (UTC)

2016 WMF Strategy consultation

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Hello, all.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)

Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.

Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)

If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to mdennis@wikimedia.org.

I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 18-ji̍t (Pài 1) 19:06 (UTC)

The visual editor is now active here

Hello again (and again, apologies for using English on this page. Please help translate to your language. 感謝您!)

As some of you have noticed, this Wikipedia now has the visual editor (VisualEditor) enabled for all users. (We planned to do this on 25 January 2016. However, last week, there was an unusual problem with an upgrade to MediaWiki. Thanks for your understanding.) There are now two tabs for editing: "Siu-kái" and "kái goân-sú-bé". Click "Siu-kái" to use the visual editor. Click "kái goân-sú-bé" to edit using wikitext markup.

All edits using the visual editor will be tagged with "VisualEditor" in recent changes, watchlists, and page histories. To access the User Guide for the visual editor, click on the "(?)" icon in its toolbar. If you wish to disable this new system, this can be done under "Editing" in your preferences.

Please let us know if you find any problems. You can report issues in Phabricator, the new bug tracking system or on the central feedback page on MediaWiki.org.

If you can translate from English into this wiki's language, or know anyone who can, please follow this link and help your community get the best possible experience when it comes to interface messages and documentation related to the visual editor. The interface is hosted at https://translatewiki.net; you'll need an account if you never translated there before. Please contact me directly whenever you need help!

Happy editing, Elitre (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 1) 17:53 (UTC)

Chin hó ê soàⁿ-téng hoan-e̍k chu-goân

Chit kúi kang, góa tī PTT bīn-téng khoáⁿ-tio̍h ū lâng hun-hiáng án-ne chi̍t ê Tâi-Hôa hoan-e̍k ê bāng-chām, hō-chò 臺華平行新聞語料庫. Lán Holopedia khó-lêng ē-sái lī-iōng chit-ê kang-khū lâi tōa-liōng cheng-ka lán-ê bûn-chiong sò͘-liōng kap lōe-iông tn̂g-tō͘.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 23-ji̍t (Pài 2) 11:34 (UTC)

Chán! --Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 4) 14:34 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016

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Did you know?

Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features.

If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

Now, you can also rearrange columns and rows. Click "Move before" or "Move after" to swap the column or row with its neighbor.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes

The single edit tab project will combine the "Siu-kái" and "kái goân-sú-bé" tabs into a single "Siu-kái" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Siu-kái" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Pian-chi̍p tab of Special:Preferences:

• 記定我最後使其編輯器,
• 會使其話，都讓我使視覺化編輯器,
• 都是讓我使 Wikitext 編輯器, and
• 顯示兩種編輯器標籤乞我. (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)

The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.

Let's work together

• Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
• Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Does typing in these languages feels natural in the visual editor? Language engineer David Chan needs to know. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org.
• Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.

If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. 感謝您!

Elitre (WMF), 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 5) 19:21 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016: call for posters, discussions and trainings

Hi people,
the calls for posters, discussions and trainings for Wikimania 2016 are officially opened, you can find all the relevant links on the conference wiki:

https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions

The calls will be closed on March 20.

Posters will be reviewed just to make sure that there aren't things which are too much out of scope. Since we have a whole village we will surely find places to attach them, even if we they will be a lot!

Discussions will be managed by a guiding committee who will work on the wiki to meld all the proposals and suggestions.

Trainings will be reviewed by the programme committee. Please note that we request that each training has at least 3-5 interested attendees in order to be put in the programme.

By the beginning of April we will have a first list of all the accepted proposals.

If you have questions we suggest you to ask them on the discussion pages on wiki, so that everyone will be able to see them (and their answers, of course).

We are looking forward to read your ideas! --Yiyi (對話) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 29-ji̍t (Pài 1) 16:15 (UTC)

Goân-té tiōr sī hàn-jī ê goā-kok mi̍h-kiāⁿ sī-án-chuáⁿ iû-goân ài-ēng goā-bûn khí-miâ?

• Europa kah Bí-chiu pún-lâi tiōr bôr hàn-jī, só͘-í ēng goā-bûn khí-miâ, che góa ē-tàng liáu-kái. M̄-korh chhin-chhioⁿ Ji̍t-pún kah Hân-kok pō͘-hūn ê mi̍h-kiāⁿ, i pêⁿ-pêⁿ tiōr sī siá hàn-jī. Hàn-jī ê siat-kè tiōr sī ē-tàng hō͘ bôr-kāng tē-hng ê lâng siá sior-kâng ê jī, tān-sī liām ka-tī ê im. Uī-siáⁿ-mih korh ài ēng pheng-im siá goā-bûn? Nā-sī án-ne, chhin-chhioⁿ Pak-kiaⁿ-ōe, tuì Hōr-lór-oē lâi kóng mā sī goā-bûn, Si̍p Kīn-pêng eng-kai soá si̍p uî Xí Jìn-píng.--Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 5) 20:30 (UTC)

• • Kî-thaⁿ gú-giân pán-pún ê khí-miâ hng-hoat:

	vi wiki	ko wiki	ja wiki
Tiong-kok ê miâ	Hàn-jī goân-bûn: Tập Cận Bình	Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 이백 Tiong-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 시진핑	Hàn-jī goân-bûn: 習近平
Ji̍t-pún ê miâ	Ji̍t-gú im-i̍k: Tokugawa Ieyasu	Ji̍t-gú im-i̍k: 도쿠가와 이에야스	Ji̍t-gú goân-bûn: 徳川家康
Hân-kok ê miâ	Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): Khương Hoằng Lập Hân-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): Song Hye-kyo	Hàn-jī goân-bûn: 송혜교	Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 姜弘立 goân-bûn ia̍h sī Hân-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 朴槿恵, ソン・ヘギョ
Oa̍t-lâm ê miâ	Hàn-jī goân-bûn: Hồ Chí Minh	Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 리 태조 Oa̍t-lâm-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 호찌민	Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 李公蘊 Oa̍t-lâm-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): ホー・チ・ミン

Bân-lâm-gú kap Oa̍t-lâm-gú lóng sī īng Lô-má-jī siá ê, kiàn-gī chham-khó Oa̍t-lâm-gú pán-pún ê siá-hoat.--122.90.97.61 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 06:08 (UTC)

Nā kian-chhî khì chhōe chia lâng-miâ tī Hô-ló-ōe Hàn-jī ê tha̍k-hoat, ē chō-sêng ēng Lô-má-jī ê lâng ài seng o̍h kòe Hàn-jī chia̍h ē-tàng siá Lô-má-jī. Che chō-sêng Lô-má-jī kaⁿ-taⁿ piàn 1 khoán tùi Hàn-jī ê "chù-im."

2 khoán hoan-siá kòe-têng ê chha-pia̍t:

• 1. Ji̍t-gí Lô-má-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Lô-má-jī;
• 2. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Hàn-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Lô-má-jī.

Tē-2-khoán, nā chhiūⁿ 德川家康 chit chióng khah chhut-miâ ê lâng bô siáⁿ-mi̍h būn-tê, m̄ ko̍h nā beh siá chiông-lâi m̄-bat ēng Hô-ló-ōe tha̍k--kòe ê kî-tha Ji̍t-pún lâng-miâ, piáu-sī lán siōng-bô ài o̍h 2 khoán hē-thóng chia̍h ū hoat-tō siá mi̍h-kiāⁿ. --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 07:52 (UTC)

Lôr-má-jī mā sī ài ōaⁿ nn̄g pái:

• 1. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Ji̍t-gí Lôr-má-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Lôr-má-jī;
• 2. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Hàn-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Lôr-má-jī.

Lán pêⁿ-pêⁿ lóng ài o̍rh hàn-jī ê hoat-im. --Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 17:16 (UTC)

Ji̍t-gí lâng-miâ ê Lô-má-jī ē-tàng ti̍t-chiap chhâ--tio̍h. Tû-hui sī chin chió lâng hō ê jī, "Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Ji̍t-gí Lô-má-jī" ê khang-khòe m̄-sī góa teh chò. Jî-chhiá nā ē-hiáu chit pō͘, sī piáu-sī ke-kiám bat Ji̍t-gí, m̄-sī óa-khò ē-hiáu 2 khoán Hô-ló-ōe su-siá hē-thóng. --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 19:51 (UTC)

"ē chō-sêng ēng Lô-má-jī ê lâng ài seng o̍h kòe Hàn-jī chia̍h ē-tàng siá Lô-má-jī.": M̄-koán sī tór chi̍t kok ê lâng-miâ, lán lóng ài o̍rh hàn-jī ê hoat-im, nā-bôr lán ná ē chai "習近平" ài khí-miâ chorh "Si̍p Kīn-pêng"???? Lán ná ē chai "周子瑜" ài siá ûi "Chiu Chú-jû"?? in m̄-bat tī tiān-sī kóng--kòe in ê bân-lâm-gí miâ. Bêng-bêng tio̍rh chai-iáⁿ hàn-jī án-chuáⁿ kóng, che kan-na chhioⁿ-leh siàn ka-tī chhuì-phoé. --Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 27-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 13:41 (UTC)

Ōe m̄-bián kóng kah hiah pháiⁿ thiaⁿ lah. Pún-lâng chàn-tông m̄-nā Hō-ló-lâng ê miâ-jī, Hân-kok-lâng, Tiong-kok-lâng kap Oa̍t-lâm-lâng ê lâng-miâ lóng ē-ēng iōng Hàn-jī ê Hō-ló-ōe hoat-im lâi siá; tān-sī Ji̍t-pún-lâng ê lâng-miâ ū i ka-kī ê te̍k-sû-sèng chûn-chāi. In-ê miâ ū-ê sī iōng hùn-tho̍k (訓讀) teh tha̍k, kin-pún tiō hām hit-ê Hàn-jī pún-sin ê im-tho̍k (音讀) bô koan-liân. Kî-si̍t chit-khoán būn-tê ê kái-koat hong-sek ē-sái chham-khó lâng Oa̍t-lâm-ōe Wikipedia sī án-choáⁿ siá.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 27-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 14:00 (UTC)

Che khó-lêng m̄ ka-na khoàⁿ gōa-gí/hui-gōa-gí ê chha-pia̍t; koh siū kî-tha in-sò͘ ê éng-hióng, phì-jû tōa-liōng hoan-e̍k sî ê hong-piān-sèng, kui-chek tú tio̍h lē-gōa ê khó-lêng-sèng, sīm-chì sī bô siáⁿ-mi̍h chheng-chhó lí-iû ê koàn-sì téng-téng. Siá Hàn-jîn ê miâ khó-lêng sī ài bián-kióng chhōe lán Hō-ló-ōe Hàn-jî ê tha̍k-im, lán khó-lêng bô su-iàu kā "習近平" siá chò "Xi Jingping", in-ūi Hôa-gí (he̍k-chiá "習近平" pún-hióng ê bó͘ khoán ōe) lâng-miâ kap Hô-ló-ōe bô sáⁿ chha-piat (nā Ji̍t-pún kap Hân-kok lóng ū lâng-miâ bô Hàn-jī he̍k-chiá ēng in ka-tī hoat-bêng ê Hàn-jī ê khó-lêng); m̄-koh nā chiam-tùi Ji̍t-pún lâng-miâ bô su-iàu koh kiâⁿ hn̄g lō͘ khì chò chi̍t khoán kang-hu. Che chio̍h chhin-chhiūⁿ Hân-kok ê lâng siá ka-tī ê lâng-miâ khó-lêng mā ài bat in ka-tī Hàn-jī tha̍k-im, m̄-koh tùi Ji̍t-pún-lâng "徳川家康", chio̍h ē-sài ti̍t-chia̍p ēng Ji̍t-gí ho͘-im tha̍k "ko:도쿠가와 이에야스"; in sīm-chì mā kā "習近平" ēng Hôa-gí im siá chò "시진핑" (sijinping). Lēng-gōa, hiān-sî Ji̍t-pún mûi-thé teh kiò Tiong-kok/Hân-kok lâng-miâ ê sî (iû-kî koa-chhiú ián-goân chit khoán) mā tiāⁿ ti̍t-chiap pheng Hôa-gí/Hân-gí ê ho͘-im chhut--lâi --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 28-ji̍t (Pài 1) 06:34 (UTC)

Góa chàn-sêng kā Si̍p Kīn-pêng sóa khì Xí Jìnpíng téng-téng. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 28-ji̍t (Pài 1) 16:05 (UTC)

Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants

Please help translate to your language:

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

• Submit a grant request or draft your proposal in IdeaLab
• Get help with your proposal in an upcoming Hangout session
• Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 31-ji̍t (Pài 4) 15:47 (UTC)

Server switch 2016

The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).

If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.

Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.

• There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.

No non-essential code deployments will take place.

This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 4-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 21:08 (UTC)

Wikipedia to the Moon

Hello! Sorry that this is in English only, but we are using village pump messaging in order to reach as many language communities as possible. Wrong page? Please fix it here.

This is an invitation to all Wikipedians: Wikimedia Deutschland has been given data space to include Wikipedia content in an upcoming mission to the Moon. (No joke!) We have launched a community discussion about how to do that, because we feel that this is for the global community of editors. Please, join the discussion on Meta-Wiki (and translate this invitation to your language community)! Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 2016-nî 4-goe̍h 21-ji̍t (Pài 4) 15:35 (UTC)

Khe (溪), Kang (江) kap Hô (河) ê iōng-hoat?

Tī lán Hok-kiàn-ōe lāi, sī khe-chúi ê iōng-hoat khah phó͘-phiàn, ia̍h-sī hô-chhoan? Goá ná ē kám-kak hô-chhoan ê iōng-hoat khah chhiūⁿ tùi Tiong-kok-ōe ti̍t-chiap siá kòe-lâi ê? Chhiáⁿ mn̄g kok-ūi kám sī án-ne? Lán Holopedia kái ēng khe-chúi lâi hun lūi-pia̍t kám sī khah hó?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 12-ji̍t (Pài 4) 05:37 (UTC)

Góa kám-kak hô sī khah tōa tiâu--ê, khe khah sè tiâu. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 07:44 (UTC)

In-ūi goá pún-sin sī Tâi-oân-lâng, lán Tâi-oân toā-pō͘-hūn ê khe-liû lóng iōng "khe" (溪) teh hō-miâ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Lô-chúi-khe, Chan-bûn-khe, Ko-pîn-khe téng-téng, che lóng bô-lūn sī toā tiâu ia̍h sè tiâu. Goá ka-kī ê koan-chhat, Hok-kiàn-ōe ê "khe" eng-kai sī sè tiâu--ê, ah "kang" (江) sī toā tiâu--ê, kám m̄-sī? Chhiūⁿ kóng Hok-kiàn ê Chìn-kang, Kiú-liông-kang téng-téng án-ne. Tān-sī lán chāi-tē iōng "hô" (河) lâi hō-miâ ê khe-liû chin-chiáⁿ hui-siông chió.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 10:42 (UTC)

Chham-khó: Hok-kiàn hô-liû (福建河流) kap Tâi-oân kok-tē hô-chhoan (台灣各地河川). Chhìn-chhái tiám, chú-iàu lóng sī "khe" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat. Goá khoàⁿ Hā Eng Toā Sû-tián sī kóng "kang" sī "a large river", ah "hô" sī "river", ah "khoe" sī "small river"; tān-sī khoàⁿ tē-miâ soah chin chió ū "hô" ê iōng-hoat. Jû-kó "khe" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat khak-si̍t sī khah chāi-tē ê tē-lí hō-miâ hong-sek, lán teh hoan-e̍k goā-kok hui-Hàn-jī khe-chúi ê sî-chūn chiū eng-kai iōng chit-khoán khah chāi-tē ê iōng-hoat lâi siá, chhin-chhiūⁿ Mississippi Hô chiū eng-kai kái chò Mississippi Kang án-ne, m̄-bián siū-tio̍h Tiong-bûn hoan-e̍k ê éng-hióng, m̄ chāi goá-ê khoàⁿ-hoat kám ū thò-tòng?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 10:49 (UTC)

Goá kó͘-chá tòa Tâi-pak ê sî, chai-iáⁿ hia ū Tām-chúi-hô kap Ke-lâng-hô. Nn̄g tiâu lóng m̄-sī kiò-chò “khe”. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 12:51 (UTC)

Kî-si̍t che iā bô siáⁿ-mih iàu-kín, chí-sī siūⁿ-beh hoan-e̍k goā-kok chúi-hē ê sî-chūn ē tú-tio̍h iōng-jī ê gî-būn. Só͘-í "khe" í-keng khak-tēng sī sè tiâu--ê. Tú-á koh ū khoàⁿ-tio̍h chit phiⁿ, lāi-bīn ū kóng tio̍h Hok-kiàn khah chē "khe", iā pí-kàu "hô" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat, khoàⁿ khí-lâi "kang" kan-na sī Tiong-kok lâm-hong kap Lâm A-chiu gí-giân ê iōng-sû. Tiong-bûn pán-pún sī kā Eng-bûn ê "river" lóng hoan-e̍k chò "hô", ah lán chia leh? Kám-sī chiàu Tiong-bûn ê hoan-e̍k? ia̍h-sī beh chham Hân-bûn ê 강 (江; gang) kāng-khoán iōng "kang" chit jī?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 13:50 (UTC)

• Eng: Columbia River
• Tiong: 哥倫比亞河
• Ji̍t: コロンビア川 (Koronbia Kawa)
• Hân: 컬럼비아 강 (Keolleombia Gang)
• Oa̍t: Sông Columbia

[Thê-gī] Koan-î language ê iōng-hoat?

Tī lán Hokkien lāi, hiān-tāi lâng it-poaⁿ lóng ē kā language hoan-e̍k chò gí-giân (語言), che tī kó͘-chá lâi kóng, kám sī chú-liû ê iōng-hoat? Ia̍h-sī chit khoán iōng-hoat sī tùi Mandarin thoân-ji̍p--ê? Sui-jiân goá chāi-iáⁿ Tâi-gí (台語), Ji̍t-gí (日語) ê iōng-hoat tī chit-má ê Tâi-oân siā-hōe chin phó͘-phiàn, tān-sī tī í-chá lāu-chi̍t-pòe ê lâng soah sī iōng Tâi-oân-ōe (台灣話), Kńg-tang-ōe (廣東話), Ji̍t-pún-ōe (日本話), Tiong-kok-ōe (中國話), Hân-kok-ōe (韓國話) téng-téng iōng-hoat khah chē. Chit khoán hiān-siōng káⁿ-ná tī Sin-ka-pho téng Tang-lâm-a kok-ka ê sú-iōng-chiá iā chin chia̍p-khoàⁿ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Hok-kiàn-ōe (福建話), Lán-lâng-ōe (咱農話), Tiô-chiu-ōe (潮州話) téng-téng. Ùi chia khoàⁿ ē chhut-lâi, Ōe (話) chiah sī lán Hokkien siōng chá choan-bûn iōng-lâi kóng language ê bêng-sû, Gí (語) ê iōng-hoat khó-lêng sī khah oàⁿ chiah chhut-hiān ia̍h-sī khah bûn-giân ê iōng-hoat. Lēng-goā, ùi im-ūn lâi khoàⁿ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Eng-kok-ōe (英國話), Hoat-kok-ōe (法國話), Tek-kok-ōe (德國話), Sūi-tián-ōe (瑞典話), A-la-pek-ōe (阿拉伯話), Oa̍t-lâm-ōe (越南話) téng-téng, liām khí-lâi iā chin sūn. In-chhú, goá kiàn-gī tī Holopedia ê gí-giân bûn-chiuⁿ kám ài thóng-it iōng Ōe chit jī lâi chhú-tāi Gú / Gí?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 09:42 (UTC)

Lán m̄-bián khí siū-tio̍h Hàn-jī ia̍h-sī Tiong-bûn iōng-hoat ê éng-hióng, lán eng-kai ài í lán ka-kī ê pe̍h-ōe ûi-chú. Kāng-khoán sī iōng Lô-má-jī, lân Oa̍t-lâm-ōe chiū ē chhái-iōng in ka-kī ê Tiếng (㗂) ê iōng-hoat, lán eng-kai ài kā in o̍h, kám m̄-sī?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 09:54 (UTC)

en:WP:BOLD! --Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 17:39 (UTC)

@Sunshine567:@Kaihsu:因為以下ê原因，我強烈反對：

• 揣《臺灣閩南語常用詞辭典》，今仔日tī閩南語lāi-té已經有chin chē chi̍t khóan ê用法，像國語、華語、英語、日語、客語。所以有何不可？並且用“xx語”比較正式，更符合百科內容，若無太老土。中國語也經常用“xx話”來叫一種語言，in爲何毋移動？
• “話”在閩南語lāi-té kah 中國語一樣，有語言kah方言2種意思，你用“話”，究竟是語言抑是方言就無法度分清楚了。（我估計中國語不用“xx話”，除了老土以外，猶考慮到chia原因）。越南語“Tiếng”意思是“語言”，“方言”用“phương ngữ”，區別很嚴格。我感覺用“xx話”猶有將語言矮化做漢語“方言”ê嫌疑，我chin厭惡chi̍t khóan講法，tī中國語版維基 hia 一貫主張將所有漢語“方言”ê標題toà“xx話”移動kàu“xx語”。
• 閩南語ê wiki代碼叫做“Bân-lâm-gú”，按你ê提議，是毋是應該改名叫做“Bân-lâm-ōe”？
• chia提議討論ê人太少，猶無真正ê共識，所以馬上將chin chē條目大量半自動移動去“xx ōe”不妥，應該先移轉去。猶有其他人tī chia也chin活躍，應該讓in也來討論以後再講。--El caballero de los Leones (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 3) 11:30 (UTC)

• Goá pún-lâng sī bōe kám-kak ōe chit jī sī án-choàⁿ teh lāu-thó͘ ah? Che chiū sī lán-ê giân-gú, sī-án-choáⁿ bōe-ēng-tit chū-jiân ê lâi sú-iōng? Chiū-sǹg sī pek-kho-choân-su, sī lán-ê pe̍h-ōe. chiū iōng lán-ê pe̍h-ōe, che eng-kai bô siáⁿ-mih m̄-tio̍h. Bô-pit-iàu iōng Hàn-jī kap Tiong-bûn ê siūⁿ-hoat lâi hān-chè ka-kī ê pe̍h-ōe.
• Goá iā tông-ì chit-má ê lâng iōng gú/gí ê pí-lē sī jú-lâi-jú koân, tān-sī pēng m̄-sī só͘-ū ê giân-gú lóng ē-tit ēng. Tī Tâi-oân Bân-lâm-gú Siông-iōng-sû Sû-tián ia̍h-sī kî-thaⁿ sû-tián lāi-bīn, iā bô kóng-tio̍h「話」chit jī sī tāi-piáu「方言」ê ì-sù, tian-tò sī thó͘-ōe (土話) chiah sī「方言」ê ì-sù. Chāi goá khoàⁿ,thiàu-thoat Hàn-jī kap Tiong-bûn ê éng-hióng, siōng-goân-chá ê Hok-kiàn-ōe, 「ōe」chiū sī giân-gú, ah「thó͘-ōe」chiah sī chāi-tē-ōe. Tong-jiân, siū-tio̍h Tiong-kok-ōe kap Hàn-jī ê éng-hióng, chē-chē lâng ē kám-kak「話」chiū sī thó͘-ōe ê ì-sù, tān-sī lí khoàⁿ Sin-ka-pho-lâng ē kóng "Hok-kiàn-ōe", Tang-lâm-a-lâng ē kóng "Lán-lâng-ōe", Tâi-oân-lâng ē kóng "Tâi-oân-ōe", hián-sī chhut 「ōe」chit jī sī lán kiōng-tông ê chū-jiân iōng-hoat.
• Goá sī kám-kak ē-sái kái chò Hok-kiàn-ōe，thiaⁿ khí-lâi chham Eng-kok-ōe ê Hokkien kāng-khoán, chin sūn iā chin kok-chè-hoà.
• Chin sit-lé, goá eng-kai ài seng tán khoàⁿ-māi leh chiah khai-sí tín-tāng, goá ē thêng-chí bo̍k-chiân ê tōng-chok.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 3) 12:23 (UTC)

• • "gú-giân" kah "hong-giân" sī hiān-tāi gú-giân-ha̍k ê kài-liām, tong-jiân tī sóo-iú thóo-uē lāi-bīn lóng bô-huat-tōo khu-pia̍t khui lâi. Lēng-guā, "uē" iā kah "gú" siāng-khuán, sī tuì kóo-chá ê Phóo-thong-uē thuân lâi ê, lóng m̄ sī Bân-lâm-gú ka-kī ê sû. Chhiūnn "ka-chua̍h", "phah-kha-chhiùnn", "kóo-tsui" lóng bô-huat-tōo īng Hàn-jī lâi siá, tsiah-sī Bân-lâm-gú ka-kī ê sû.--122.90.84.136 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 27-ji̍t (Pài 5) 16:43 (UTC)
• Goá bô tông-ì, siáⁿ-mih kiò-chò "ka-kī ê sû"? Bô-lūn chi̍t ê sû-gú kám sī ùi "phó͘-thong-ōe" (tang-sî ê "phó͘-thong-ōe"?) thoân-lâi--ê, chí-iàu sī iōng "Bân-lâm-gú" lâi liām, iā liām liáu sūn, chiū sī "Bân-lâm-gú" ka-kī ê sû. Jî-chhiáⁿ, chit-ê gī-tê chham "kám sī ùi Tiong-kok-ōe thoân-lâi--ê" ū siáⁿ-mih koan-liân, goá si̍t-chāi siūⁿ m̄-bat. Goá-ê siūⁿ-hoat sī chin kán-tan, chiū sī iu-sian chhái-ēng lán ka-kī ê pe̍h-ōe, m̄-bián siū-tio̍h Hàn-jī ê sok-pa̍k, án-ne niā-niā. Put-kò kì-jiân hiān-chhú-sî í-keng iōng io̍h-khí--ah, chiū soah-soah-khí pah.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 31-ji̍t (Pài 2) 11:19 (UTC)

Wikipedia to the Moon: voting has begun

Hello, after six weeks of community discussion about Wikipedia to the Moon, there are now 10 different proposals for content for the mission. Starting today, you can vote for them on Meta-Wiki, and decide what we will work on: a Wikipedia canon, different lists, the Moon in 300 languages, an astronomy editathon, featured articles, articles about technology, endangered things, or DNA-related topics. You can even vote against community involvement. Voting is open until 24 June. Sorry that this message is again in English only, but we are using village pumps to reach as many communities as possible, so that everyone knows they can vote. Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 2016-nî 6-goe̍h 10-ji̍t (Pài 5) 15:31 (UTC)

Wikipedia to the Moon: invitation to edit

Three weeks ago, you were invited to vote on how to take Wikipedia articles to the Moon. Community voting is over and the winning idea is to send all ‘’featured articles and lists’’ to the Moon. This decision means that, starting today, Wikipedians from all language communities are warmly invited to intensively work on their best articles and lists, and submit them to Wikipedia to the Moon. The central site to coordinate between communities will be Meta-Wiki. You will find an overview and more information there. Hopefully, we will be able to represent as many languages as possible, to show Wikipedia’s diversity. Please feel kindly invited to edit on behalf of your community and tell us about your work on featured content!

Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 5) 14:10 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016

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Did you know?

It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "插入" menu and click the "參考文獻" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references. Finally, click "Chhah-ji̍p" in the dialog to insert the 參考文獻. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes

The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "Siu-kái" and "kái goân-sú-bé" tabs into a single "Siu-kái" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Pian-chi̍p" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes

The "Pó-chûn chit ia̍h" button will say "發佈頁面". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

• Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
• Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. 感謝您!

m:User:Elitre (WMF), 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 3-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 17:20 (UTC)

重要信息：管理员活跃审核

大家好。一项关于移除“高级权限”（管理员、行政员等）的新方针已于2013年获得全域社群的共识。根据此方针，监管员正在所有维基媒体基金会控制，但没有不活跃方针的wiki审核管理员的活跃程度。根据我们的了解，阁下所在的wiki并没有移除不活跃账户的“高级权限”的正式程序。这意味着，监管员将根据新的管理员活跃审核方针来负责此事。

我们现已判定，下列用户符合非活跃标准（超过2年既无编辑又无日志操作）：

1. Petikong（行政员和管理员）
2. Taokara（管理员）

这些用户将很快收到通知，告知他们如果希望保留部分或全部权限，应开启社群讨论。如果没有回应，那么他们的高级权限将会被监管员移除。

然而，如果您所在的社群希望建立自己的活跃审核程序以取代全域审核，或对这些不活跃的权限持有者做出其他决定，或已经有相关方针但我们并不知晓，那么请在元维基通知监管员，这样我们将不会对您的wiki做出权限审核。谢谢， Rschen7754 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 8-ji̍t (Pài 5) 03:35 (UTC)

Compact Links coming soon to this wiki

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Screenshot of Compact Language Links interlanguage list

Hello, I wanted to give a heads up about an upcoming feature for this wiki which you may seen already in the Tech News. Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). This will be enabled as a feature in the coming week for all users, which can be turned on or off using a preference setting. We look forward to your feedback and please do let us know if you have any questions. Details about Compact Language Links can be read in the project documentation.

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. The main announcement can also be translated on this page. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)--2016-nî 7-goe̍h 8-ji̍t (Pài 5) 11:46 (UTC)

Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today

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Screenshot of Compact Language Links interlanguage list

Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.

From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. However, using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages

The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket (in English).

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-2016-nî 7-goe̍h 15-ji̍t (Pài 5) 02:26 (UTC)

holopedia哪會無佇白話字的後尾加漢字

足濟儂無會曉看（可能猶毋知影有）閩南語白話字，我家己猶閣是看有但是袂曉寫。建議至少佇倒面“語言欄”的Bek-Oe-Ji後括號標註（閩南語），若無，誠濟儂猶會以為“維基百科無閩南話版本喔”。予這款儂知影有holopedia，然後in則會知去學白話字。--42.98.46.150 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 23-ji̍t (Pài 6) 03:38 (UTC)

補充：面頂IP是我，袂記得登入。--霎起林野间 (對話) 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 23-ji̍t (Pài 6) 03:51 (UTC)

In-ūi lán chia sī iōng Pe̍h-ōe-jī teh siá. Lēng-goā, lán-ê gí-giân lân-ūi pēng m̄-sī siá chò Bek-Oe-Ji, hiah sī siá Bân-lâm-gú. Án-ne lí kám chin-chiàⁿ khoàⁿ ū Pe̍h-ōe-jī, goá sī hoâi-gî hoâi-gî.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 23-ji̍t (Pài 6) 16:03 (UTC)

有關Wikia漢字版閩南語維基百科

（我不懂閩南話所以用官話留言請見諒）話說與其把漢字版內容放到資源不共用而且還多廣告的wikia上，為什麼不仿照閩東語和客家語版維基百科那樣，把漢字版和POJ版內容共同放在這同一站上?這樣安排的話還能方便用戶在POJ和漢字版之間互相跳轉。C933103 (對話) 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 30-ji̍t (Pài 6) 08:45 (UTC)

漢字版本是由本維基百科之漢字提倡者另於Wikia所創設的，其認為全漢字能夠書寫閩南語，但其餘使用者及部分學者指出，閩南語詞彙事實上並不完全是漢字能夠表記的。由於閩南語之文學傳統並不如粵語般流行且統一，因此若強以漢字表記，可能出現本字、正字以及訓用字等爭議，終究導致編輯戰。雖然增加編輯量是維基百科所樂見的，但若單單只是因為用字爭議而去編輯，可能不見得符合其初衷。至於閣下提及的客家語與閩東語之做法，將會出現重覆計算文章數量的問題，但若要學習中文版實行羅漢轉換，目前本維基恐怕並無法完成這項大工程。另外，既能保留分析語特色，也能與漢字高度對應，又能保留閩南語的自身語音，我想這是當初創設本維基的先進們的初衷。--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 7-goe̍h 30-ji̍t (Pài 6) 12:43 (UTC)

我不覺得混用兩種以上文字會導致什麼問題，拉迪諾語、閩北語與莆仙語同樣混用兩種文字，同樣存在重複計算條目數量問題，也沒見他們的使用者有過編輯戰啊。--Liuxinyu970226 (對話) 2016-nî 8-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 3) 08:22 (UTC)

1. 個人認為文章數量重複計算的問題不大，因為這只是個參考指標而已
2. 從漢字版wikia的經驗來看應該不用太擔心不同用字的爭議？或者用像英文維基對待不同地區英文拼法那樣的規則也可以解決相關爭議。
3. 而且把漢字版分拆到wikia也會把人流分流到wikia。C933103 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 4) 03:14 (UTC)

C933103 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 4) 03:14 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226:我不覺得我上方的留言有將重複計算問題與編輯戰問題混為一談。不知閣下是理解錯誤，還是刻意曲解？--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 4) 11:32 (UTC)

@C933103:

1. 或許吧？
2. 其實英文已經分為兩個版本了，English與Simple English。因此，我認為與其在此爭論，不如去孵育場開漢字的測試版本，樂見其成。不過我認為，提出新版本時，請務必介紹一下福建話的雙文背景，讓審核者了解另開一版本的理由。
3. 分流問題其實不大，感覺那裡早已停擺？--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 4) 11:41 (UTC)

以我的理解，Simple English版的出現是特例，在其成立後相關規則已被修改至不會再出現類似情況。數年前就已經有人提出過要成立漢字版閩南語維基百科，再早點還有人提出過要成立漢字版韓文維基百科，但都因為相關委員會指出新語言版本是開給不同語言而非不同文字而被否決。至於分流問題，雖然說那邊在過去三個月就只有4次ip用戶編輯，但也代表了還有人看以及還有人在意那邊的情況…(說實話，我之所以不懂閩南話還要提出這提案的原因之一就是在別的其他百科項目被wikia噁心到了，讓我覺得如果其他項目不是用wikia的話一定能有更多人參與…)C933103 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 5) 00:25 (UTC)

@Sunshine567:

1. 「或許吧？」

   在我看來這是必須的。

2. 「其實英文已經分為兩個版本了」

   C933103上面已經表示過。

3. 「不如去孵育場開漢字的測試版本，樂見其成。」

   我只想問三個字：可能麼？

4. 「讓審核者了解另開一版本的理由。」

   沒有用的，SPQRobin已經說過：

No valid ISO 639 language code ("nan" is used for zh-min-nan:), and a language written in more than one alphabets should use a conversion script.

再說就算您想另建漢字版本，那麼phab:T30442您打算何去何從呢？現在新網域要求必須使用ISO 639-3代碼，甚至以往的IETF language tag都不能用了，更遑論自建代碼了。--Liuxinyu970226 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 5) 14:38 (UTC)

另@C933103:

「雖然說那邊在過去三個月就只有4次ip用戶編輯，但也代表了還有人看以及還有人在意那邊的情況…」

請允許我多言，壯語版也是如此？--Liuxinyu970226 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 5) 14:45 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226:

@C933103:

1. 好吧，反正我也不是管理員，對這些確實不如閣下了解之透澈，我只是在此與兩位「罔畫仙」而已。既然您認為無法另創新版本，那就只剩下文字轉換系統了。
2. 基本上，我個人的看法是這樣，白話字其實是在幫助閩南語漢字的奠基。只花了不到一世紀，白話字就已然完備，其寫出來的文章，是哪個字詞就是哪個發音，一點「精差」都沒有，百年前的字詞至今依然一目了然。硬要說它差，就只差在「腔口」問題。然而漢字就不一樣了，閩南語漢字歷經長達數百年的演變，依然沒有一套讓眾人肯定的書寫系統，百年前的漢字依然流傳，但如何發音經常成為討論對象。即便台灣教育部已經提出推薦用字，但依然遭受許多學者與人士的質疑，而且其收錄字詞實在不多，難以作為百科的用字依歸。倘若維基採用這樣一套不成熟的書寫體統，必然出現我先前所說的問題，光一個「ê」字就有得吵了。先以白話字保留語彙，待漢字於未來完備之時，再進行轉變工程也不遲。
3. 此外，除了重複計算之外，白話字與漢字並用的情況，還會出現跨語言連結上的問題吧？--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 5) 15:50 (UTC)

Save/Publish

The Editing team is planning to change the name of the “Pó-chûn chit ia̍h” button to “發佈頁面” and “發布變更”. “發佈頁面” will be used when you create a new page. “發布變更” will be used when you change an existing page. The names will be consistent in all editing environments.[1][2]

This change will probably happen during the week of 30 August 2016. The change will be announced in Tech News when it happens.

If you are fluent in a language other than English, please check the status of translations at translatewiki.net for “發佈頁面” and “發布變更”.

The main reason for this change is to avoid confusion for new editors. Repeated user research studies with new editors have shown that some new editors believed that “Pó-chûn chit ia̍h” would save a private copy of a new page in their accounts, rather than permanently publishing their changes on the web. It is important for this part of the user interface to be clear, since it is difficult to remove public information after it is published. We believe that the confusion caused by the “Pó-chûn chit ia̍h” button increases the workload for experienced editors, who have to clean up the information that people unintentionally disclose, and report it to the functionaries and stewards to suppress it. Clarifying what the button does will reduce this problem.

Beyond that, the goal is to make all the wikis and languages more consistent, and some wikis made this change many years ago. The Legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports this change. Making the edit interface easier to understand will make it easier to handle licensing and privacy questions that may arise.

Any help pages or other basic documentation about how to edit pages will also need to be updated, on-wiki and elsewhere. On wiki pages, you can use the wikitext codes {{int:Publishpage}} and {{int:Publishchanges}} to display the new labels in the user's preferred language. For the language settings in your account preferences, these wikitext codes produce “發佈頁面” and “發布變更”.

Please share this news with community members who teach new editors and with others who may be interested.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 8-goe̍h 9-ji̍t (Pài 2) 18:03 (UTC)

Kóng Hok-kiàn-ōe Ūn-tōng

Chāi-hā chòe-kīn hoat-hiān tio̍h Kóng Hok-kiàn-ōe Ūn-tōng chit ê ūn-tōng, kám-kak sī chin hoaⁿ-hí mā chin ū-ì-gī. Che hō͘ goá tùi lán Hok-kiàn-ōe tī choân sè-kài ê bī-lâi hoat-tián sī lo̍k-koan kap kong-bêng. Kài-siāu hō͘ ta̍k-ke chai-iáⁿ.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 8-goe̍h 13-ji̍t (Pài 6) 10:31 (UTC)

Wikipedia to the Moon working phase

Dear Min Nan Wikipedia language community,

First of all, I am sorry to write this in English.

You may already have heard about Wikipedia to the Moon: A team of scientists called the “PT Scientists” are going to send a space craft to the moon in 2017 and they want to take Wikipedia along with them. Because Wikipedia is so big, we cannot send all of it to the moon. That is why the international Wikipedia-community has voted to send all “Featured Articles and Featured Lists“ from all languages in Wikipedia.

“Featured Articles“ is a category in many language versions of Wikipedia that collects the very best articles in that language. Your community does not currently have a „Featured Articles“ category. Ideally, we want to take every language on Wikipedia to the moon and we also want to take the best articles in your language. That is why we would like you to tell us what the very best articles in your language are.

There are two ways you could do this:

1) You could introduce the categories “Featured Article” and “Featured List” in your language version of Wikipedia and vote for the best articles and put them in the category. We will take every article that is tagged as a “Featured Article” or a “Featured List” to the moon

2) You could vote for the best articles in your language version of Wikipedia and put them all on one a new Wikipedia page. If you let us know where we can find that list here, we will also take the articles to the moon.

The deadline for Wikipedia to the Moon is 31 October 2016. After that date, we will put all the Featured Articles and Lists onto a special disc and give it to the “PT Scientists.” They will take the Wikipedia articles into space next year.

--Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (對話) 2016-nî 8-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 3) 13:22 (UTC)

Hân-kok gē-jîn ê miâ kiàn-gī thóng-it īng Lô-má-jī

Hân-kok gē-jîn ê miâ kiàn-gī thóng-it īng Lô-má-jī, m̄ īng Hàn-jī ê Bân-lâm-gí tha̍k-im. Che sī chun-tiōng Hân-gí ê tha̍k-im kap bûn-hoà. Tī Ji̍t-pún-gí pán-pún hia, īng kana, m̄ īng Hàn-jī (ja:チョン・ジヒョン); tī Oa̍t-lâm-gí pán-pún hia, īng Hân-gí ê Lô-má-jī, m̄ īng Hàn-jī ê Oa̍t-lâm-gí tha̍k-im (vi:Jun Ji-hyun). Bân-lâm-gí wiki kap Oa̍t-lâm-gí lóng sī īng Lô-má-jī siá ê, kiàn-gī o̍h Oa̍t-lâm-gí hia ti̍t-chiap īng Hân-gí Lô-má-jī.

Pēng-chhiáⁿ, nā-sī īng Bân-lâm-gí tha̍k-im siá, Song Hye-kyo sī siá chò "Sòng Hūi-kàu" (宋慧教)? Ia̍h-sī "Sòng Hūi-kiâu" (宋慧喬)? Jang Keun Suk sī siá chò "Tiuⁿ Kun-sek" (張根奭)? ia̍h-sī "Tiuⁿ Kun-se̍k" (張根碩)? Jang Keun Suk ê Hàn-jī miâ i kā-kī iā bē-hiáu.--El caballero de los Leones (對話) 2016-nî 8-goe̍h 21-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 03:02 (UTC)

Nā beh kóng chun-tiōng, goá kám-kak pó-chûn lán Hok-kiàn-ōe ê hàn-jī tha̍k-im sī chia siōng-kài ki-pún ê chun-tiōng. Se-iûⁿ gí-giân ti̍t-chiap chhau kòe-lâi, he sī bô bûn-hoà-siōng ê kau-chhap. Ji̍t-pún-ōe ê goân-in sī in-ūi in-ê hàn-jī tha̍k-im ū-iáⁿ ho̍k-cha̍p, só͘-í chiah hòng-khì ēng hàn-jī tha̍k. Tān-sī Hân-kok kap Oa̍t-lâm, kóng si̍t-chāi-ōe, khah bô chit-khoán būn-tê, só͘-í goá sī kám-kak pó-chûn hàn-jī tha̍k-im ē khah hó-sè.

Chhiūⁿ 宋慧教 chit-khoán chin khak-tēng ê hàn-jī lâng-miâ, tō ti̍t-chiap ēng hō-ló lâi tha̍k, nā bô chheng-chhó chiah ēng lô-má-jī mā iáu ē-hù.--Sunshine678 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 4) 14:33 (UTC)

@唐吉訶德的侍從:Choè-kīn khoàⁿ-tio̍h lí kā chi̍t-koá Hân-kok-lâng ê bûn-chiuⁿ soá-soá khì in goân-bûn ê lô-má-jī. Tng-teh siūⁿ kóng che sī siáⁿ-mih khoán lí-iû ê sî, chiah lâi hoat-hiān chit-uī ê thó-lūn. Bô-m̄-tio̍h, lí-ê chhut-hoat tiám nā-chún sī uī-tio̍h beh chun-tiōng pa̍t-lâng gí-giân ê hoat-im, goá bô ì-kiàn. Put-kò, chit-khoán tōng-chok ná ē kan-na ēng tī Hân-kok-lâng neh? Tiong-kok-lâng leh? Pak-kiaⁿ-lâng? Siōng-hái-lâng? Kńg-tang-lâng? Chí-iàu m̄-sī Bân-lâm-lâng ê jîn-bu̍t, chiàu lí-ê logic, m̄-tio̍h-ài choân-pō͘ soá-soá hō͘ hó? Ná ē chhiūⁿ án-ne soá poàⁿ-thò ê? Kám kóng chun-tiōng mā ài hun tuì-siōng--S205643 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 15-ji̍t (Pài 4) 01:33 (UTC)

Tē-lí Kàu-kho-su

Khó-lêng goá pún-lâng kiàn-sek bô kàu toā iā bô kàu khoah, chòe-kīn chiah khoàⁿ tio̍h chit hūn bûn-kiāⁿ, tān-sī iáu sī hun-hióng hō͘ ta̍k-ke, mā hi-bāng lán chia-ê tē-lí bûn-chiuⁿ miâ-hō ē-tàng ke-kiám chham-khó chit khoán iû goā-kok lâng hoan-e̍k ê tē-lí bêng-sû.

• Tē-lí Kàu-kho-su Koàn-jī
• Tē-lí Kàu-kho-su Koàn-saⁿ
• Tē-lí Kàu-kho-su Koàn-sì

Put-kò chia pēng bô tē-it koàn, m̄ chai kám ū lâng chai-iáⁿ tē-it koàn ê hiān-chōng jû-hô?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 3-ji̍t (Pài 6) 14:26 (UTC)

RevisionSlider

From September 13th on, RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature in your wiki. The RevisionSlider adds a slider view to the diff page, so that you can easily move between revisions. The feature fulfills a wish from the German Community’s Technical Wishlist. Everyone is invited to test the feature and we hope that it will serve you well in your work!

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 12-ji̍t (Pài 1) 15:08 (UTC)

Grants to improve your project

Please help translate to your language:

Greetings! The Project Grants program is currently accepting proposals for funding. There is just over a week left to submit before the October 11 deadline. If you have ideas for software, offline outreach, research, online community organizing, or other projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.

• Submit a grant request
• Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session
• Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants or Project and Event Grants

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 9-goe̍h 30-ji̍t (Pài 5) 20:10 (UTC)

Creative Commons 4.0

Hello! I'm writing from the Wikimedia Foundation to invite you to give your feedback on a proposed move from CC BY-SA 3.0 to a CC BY-SA 4.0 license across all Wikimedia projects. The consultation will run from October 5 to November 8, and we hope to receive a wide range of viewpoints and opinions. Please, if you are interested, take part in the discussion on Meta-Wiki.

Apologies that this message is only in English. This message can be read and translated in more languages here. Joe Sutherland (talk) 2016-nî 10-goe̍h 6-ji̍t (Pài 4) 01:34 (UTC)

Editing News #3—2016

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can easily re-arrange columns and rows in the visual editor?

Select a cell in the column or row that you want to move. Click the arrow at the start of that row or column to open the dropdown menu (shown). Choose either "Move before" or "Move after" to move the column, or "Move above" or "Move below" to move the row.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has mainly worked on a new wikitext editor. They have also released some small features and the new map editing tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the list of work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, releasing the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving language support.

Recent changes

• You can now set text as small or big.[3]
• Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.[4] A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.[5]
• Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.[6]
• At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department is adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more at mediawiki.org.[7]
• The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[8] In the future, the "Pó-chûn chit ia̍h" button will say "發佈頁面". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
• Image galleries now use a visual mode for editing. You can see thumbnails of the images, add new files, remove unwanted images, rearrange the images by dragging and dropping, and add captions for each image. Use the "Options" tab to set the gallery's display mode, image sizes, and add a title for the gallery.[9]

Future changes

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

• Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.

• If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. 感謝您!

—Elitre (WMF)

2016-nî 10-goe̍h 15-ji̍t (Pài 6) 17:49 (UTC)

Password reset

I apologise that this message is in English. ⧼Centralnotice-shared-help-translate⧽

We are having a problem with attackers taking over wiki accounts with privileged user rights (for example, admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, checkusers). It appears that this may be because of weak or reused passwords.

Community members are working along with members of multiple teams at the Wikimedia Foundation to address this issue.

In the meantime, we ask that everyone takes a look at the passwords they have chosen for their wiki accounts. If you know that you've chosen a weak password, or if you've chosen a password that you are using somewhere else, please change those passwords.

Select strong passwords – eight or more characters long, and containing letters, numbers, and punctuation. Joe Sutherland (thó-lūn) / MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 11-goe̍h 13-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 23:59 (UTC)

Adding to the above section (Password reset)

Please accept my apologies - that first line should read "Help with translations!". Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) / MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 11-goe̍h 14-ji̍t (Pài 1) 00:11 (UTC)