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NYCFC Hispanic Skinhead Supporter Group (facebook.com)

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[–]Major League SoccerAlar1k 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Grass roots support that isn't astroturfed! /s

But, let's be real. No team can really control things like this. The team can and will certainly disassociate from them and try to block them from entering games or kick them out, but that's about it. This has happened from time to time with other teams in various different forms too. It's not unique to NYCFC.

[–]DC Unitedhillofthorn 74 points75 points  (3 children)

Well aren't these just the cutest bunch of edgy little mama's boys you've ever seen?!

[–]New York City FCExternalTangents 36 points37 points  (1 child)

The Happy Easter photo is just amazing

[–]San Jose EarthquakesBarnaBacon 23 points24 points  (0 children)

TELL YOUR MOM WE SAID HELLO AND WE HOPE SHE HAS A GREAT WEEKEND. LOVE, THE HOOLIGAN CREW

[–]FC Wichita5nakefork 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's like the kids that tag dumpsters in empty uninhabited parts of town. Edgy huh.

[–]New York City FCBxbomberny 102 points103 points  (14 children)

What the crud is this ....goddamnit I just wanna support the fucking club why are people making it so hard

[–]Orlando CityWingdom 41 points42 points  (0 children)

There are shit heads in every city, they'll screw up bad enough to get banned sooner or later. Let them destroy themselves.

[–]New York Red BullsDrunken_Economist 64 points65 points  (10 children)

I love how NYCFC fans have started using 'crud' on /r/MLS.

You guys are alright...

[–]New York City FCExternalTangents 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I want us to own that crud. I'm currently waiting on delivery for this shirt: http://imgur.com/Hn1gtEw

My only regret is that I won't have it by tomorrow.

[–]Major League Soccersokkas-boomerang 8 points9 points  (0 children)

From crud to cred it two easy steps!

[–]New York City FCdekal630 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I must have this. Wear did you buy.

[–]New York City FCExternalTangents 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Self-designed on CustomInk.com. Although there seemed to be a decent reaction to it, so I was trying to see how to set up an online ordering system so that other people could also buy it.

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    [–]madjoy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I feel like the cruddiest fan. I keep trying to get into NYCFC but... sigh. We will get there!

    [–]New York Red BullsMontauket 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Ditch your blues, cross the hudson, and come join us wearing red. You'll have a much better day of it tomorrow if you do ;)

    [–]Indy Elevenninety7poundwuss 13 points14 points  (18 children)

    At first I thought there might be a possibility these guys could be SHARPs and were thought to be associated with the alleged prejudice group.

    However, after a few seconds that thought faded.

    Interesting to see what would happen if an antifa group springs up in response.

    [–]avisitorfrom 4 points5 points  (7 children)

    Seattle already has an antifa group. Wonder if they had a meeting last week

    [–]Montreal Impactzanycomet 3 points4 points  (6 children)

    Montreal too. Should be interesting

    [–]Pocono SnowLocksTheFox -1 points0 points  (5 children)

    I would start one in Philly if I went to more games.

    [–]Indy Elevenninety7poundwuss 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    I run an SG in Indy that's considered antifa. I know we're not the only ones in the country, so it wouldn't be unheard of, but I do wonder if this will create some sort of opposing action.

    [–]Miami Fusionineedawapon 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Honest question--what's the rationale behind having antifa supporters' groups in the US? I know they exist in Europe as a response to actual white supremacist supporters' groups, but I don't think that's really a problem here.

    [–]Indy Elevenninety7poundwuss 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    For us it's a solidarity thing. Honestly, the reason I said sorta antifa is because our group is committed to the equality of all people. Because of that, we get lumped into being an antifa group. Which of course is fine by us.

    [–]Miami Fusionineedawapon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Appreciate the response.

    [–]avisitorfrom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Wanting be be as "hardcore soccer culture fan" as possible. I literally lol when I heard about the Seattle antifa group. Not that it surprises me that it would be the first SG with one, but that there are even any here in the States. Europe is the only continent that mixes politics with their supporters groups to a large extent.

    [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    NYC's antifa scene pretty much died unfortunately. there's a few hangers on, but most got older, moved away, had families.... we used to host a RASH night monthly in BK, but the main guy keeping it together had to move out of state for work a couple years ago. with no new blood to replace, we withered.

    [–]Indy Elevenninety7poundwuss 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Isn't there a decently sized St. Pauli group in the city? Not that it necessarily means a 1 to 1 thing, but you would think there would be enough to see one eventually form.

    [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    i know it exists, but honestly no clue of their size, i'm over in jersey. i also apparently don't get along with a couple of their higher ups cuz 2 years ago someone dug up a general comment i made in 2008 about the (eventual) cosmos supporters group, with no particular people in mind. that created some bad blood. sucks too, cuz we know a lot of the same people, support the same euro teams, have the same political views...dumb shit, would be willing to bury the hatchet and focus onmore important stuff, but don't know if that's an option. oh well, tut tut.

    [–]Portland Timberstrollerbear 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    What is antifa?

    [–]Sporting Kansas Cityamerican_eisbaer 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    Antifacist. Clubs like St. Pauli are Antifa clubs, but most teams just have antifa SG's or Blocs.

    [–]Portland Timberstrollerbear 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Wait what? There are clubs that are like, actively anti-fascist? Whoa. What does that mean? Sorry I have straight up never heard of this before ever.

    [–]Sporting Kansas Cityamerican_eisbaer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    When I was in Hamburg it seemed as though the club itself was Antifaschisten but I'm not sure if that's the case. But in any case many if not most of the supporters were vocal leftists and anti fascist elements.

    [–]Portland Timbersthetook 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    St. Pauli has very active very liberal fan base some of them downright anarchist... but yes most of them are antifacist. The St. Pauli support group in NYC is a great bunch of folks.

    From wiki

    [–]New York Red BullsMontauket 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    That's rad. I might be interested in sharing a pint or three with a SG like that. Do they have a bar in manhattan or bklyn I might know of?

    [–]Portland Timbersthetook 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Facebook group the main way of getting info about and invites to events and games.

    Their bar is (always a good live atmosphere and good cool people): East River Bar 97 S 6th St, Brooklyn, New York 11211

    The live games at the stadium in Hamburg are absolutely amazingly fabulous.

    [–]New England RevolutionxDCWx 104 points105 points  (38 children)

    Skinhead is a punk subculture, these days very few of them are nazis, most of them are not. In my experience, New York skins come from a variety of ethnic backgrounds and are generally not racists. As for this being a "fad", these guys were skinheads long before a soccer team played at Yankee stadium.

    I can understand that at first glance this group looks shocking, but honestly, that's kind of the point. Punks and skins have had a hand in pretty much every team's supporters groups, its just that most of us tone it the fuck down. I don't think these guys will be a problem, I think they will stick to themselves, and I don't think there will be any incidents.

    If other NYCFC supporters are concerned about what a group of puerto rican skinheads will do to their image, I strongly suggest that you just go introduce yourselves and talk to them at the game instead of clutching your pearls online. You might find that you have a lot of common ground.

    [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (2 children)

    The guy wearing the Anti-Antifa shirt pretty well throws this out the window. Classic Skins are good people, these guys are not that.

    [–]San Jose Earthquakeshanzkloss 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Where's the anti antifa? If it's one of the poles you cant really blame them for that, poles having endured communism for 50 plus years. Any left wing "antifa" ideologies would be met with aggression by most Polish people even grandmothers.

    [–]Minnesota UnitedAnonBarksdale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    "Communism".

    [–]San Jose EarthquakesBarnaBacon 18 points19 points  (7 children)

    Nah dude it's chill, they only like early Skrewdriver for the music, they don't even pay attention to the lyrics.

    [–]Houston DynamoTrocarOfDoom 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    That's great, and ima let you finish, but errbody knows that "Hail The New Dawn" was the best Skrewdriver record of all time!

    [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    I think anyone making Skrewdriver jokes would appreciate knowing that there is an all-Jewish cover/parody band called. Jewdriver.

    You're welcome.

    [–]Houston DynamoTrocarOfDoom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Pink Panzer > Jewdriver

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8BGizs3hT8

    [–]San Jose EarthquakesBarnaBacon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I uh, uh, wouldn't know...

    [–]New York Red Bullsrazorhater 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Relevant

    [–]San Jose EarthquakesBarnaBacon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This site is terrifying, accurate, and amazing.

    [–]San Jose EarthquakesBarnaBacon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This site is terrifying, accurate, and amazing.

    [–]Portland TimbersPDXSb 52 points53 points  (17 children)

    Except there are several instances of 88 in the comments, which stands for Heil Hitler. Pretty silly considering these dudes with their darker skin would have been marched off to the gas chambers right along with the Jews, gypsies and the other people.

    [–]New York City FCjldeg 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    What's the number thingy for "Heil Villa"?

    [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    822

    [–]Portland Timbersthetook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Ehh... Nazi's had Serb muslim, African, Asian Waffen-SS units so not exactly. Francisco Franco a Spaniard was also a fascist.

    [–]MetroStarsCOLLINRUDOLPH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't know about these dudes, but 88 is also a significant number for people involved in the youth crew punk scene. Youth Crew was particularly popular in NYC.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_crew

    [–]New York Red Bullsrobm0n3y 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    When RBNY had Bill Gaudette and he wore 88 someone made a joke about needing a picture with him and Henry together, 14 88. When skins make jokes like that lots of people take it the wrong way.

    [–]New England Revolutionpeachesgp 1 point2 points  (9 children)

    I came across 2 instances going back to the beginning of the year (and then lost interest in going further) so I'd hardly say that's a high frequency.

    [–]Montreal Impactp1rke 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    One instance of 88 is one too much. And the Anti Antifa pretty much explains their position. What kind of proof do you need?

    [–]New York CosmosStephcaflowne 32 points33 points  (7 children)

    What is the ratio for acceptable Heil Hitlers per month?

    [–]Philadelphia Unionconpermiso 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    About 88...

    [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't know his exact position on Hispanics, but Hitler's views on race were shockingly nuanced. Big fan of Asians (that's why he allied himself with Japan), and was more bothered that Jesse Owens was American than he was about him being black. Also he allegedly was down with Native Americans, though there is some speculation that was just an attempt to open an additional front in the American Southwest.

    The guy was a mass-murdering fuckhead, no doubt, but it wasn't "all and only Aryans". Important bit of information to remember when dealing with neo-Nazis, especially non-white neo-Nazis.

    [–]FC BuffaloGmailThugga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Maybe they're just big Kwadwo Poku fans...?

    [–]Portland Timbersthetook 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Nazi Punks Fuck Off.

    [–]DC UnitedDefeat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    If you scroll down their facebook page they took pictures of the article about the fans in section 237. I'm pretty sure they're taking responsibility for this and also show off how "bad ass" they are. As far as skin heads go, I'm sure what you say is true. However, this particular group of skin heads looks to be entirely devoted to causing havoc and being "hardcore thugs" who go scare nice folk at soccer matches.

    [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 11 points12 points  (3 children)

    Yeah, skinheads are a very misunderstood subculture. I mean it started out with reggae music in the UK, the racists are an aberration that came later.

    That said, there is some borderline stuff in the pictures (Offensive Weapon, 211 Bootboys) that makes me wonder whether these guys are regular skins or if they are the more offensive type.

    [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    yeah, they listen to RAC and fencewalker or outright bonehead tunes.

    e: typo

    [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Not sure I follow your point.

    [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    derp. typed too fast and skipped a word. editing...

    [–]DC UnitedGhostfaceHecklah 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    88 lol i'm so edgy

    [–]Chicago Fireoscaradrianzen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thats so true! I believe in every word you just said. People are just so afraid to be like "Hey dude badass club, we love this city and team too, come grab a beer!" Like these guys don't scare me so why do they scare so many people... Oh yeah racist thoughts. Haha I could give to shits what they do out there in the real world (Most of them probably work 60hrs/week in a factory) But for those 90 minutes those guys are cheering their asses off for their club.

    [–]New York Red Bullsrazorhater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was hoping this would be near the top, because if you go back to the start of the NY/DC/NE supporters groups, a lot of those guys were in that scene, and skinheads in general are misunderstood.

    Then I saw all the evidence to the contrary and...well...yeah, these guys suck.

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    So, I thought that story about Hispanic Skinheads a couple of weeks ago was blown out of proportion or a straight out lie... I guess I was wrong.

    Idiots.

    [–]Indy ElevenDonnieNarco 28 points29 points  (12 children)

    It's nice to be in maybe the only subreddit where people are unanimously against racism and fascism.

    [–]Pocono SnowLocksTheFox 34 points35 points  (8 children)

    This is like, the only not-tiny subreddit where I feel comfortable being a gay trans woman

    [–]Seattle SoundersSempuukyaku 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    As you should. Discrimination on any level is disgraceful and disgusting, period. The MLS "don't cross the line "campaign is pretty awesome. I'd hope that as supporters/fans we're all on board with that.

    [–]Philadelphia Unionthanksbastards 5 points6 points  (5 children)

    The league lost credibility on that in my mind when they signed up Chik-fil-a as a league-wide sponsor. I'm pretty sure our Gay Pride night in Philly one year lined up with a CFA promotion...

    [–]whitecapsfan2010 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    Some of the other sponsorships go in the face of "Don't Cross The Line" as well. Disappointing for sure.

    [–]Toronto FCPbrisebois 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Don't worry all of NYCFC's Emirati money will wash it all away.

    [–]New York Metrostarsnjndirish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    And don't forget who owns the Galaxy

    [–]LA Galaxymarqueezy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Not sure why you were downvoted. Anschutz donates a lot of money to anti-gay marriage organizations.

    [–]Indy ElevenDonnieNarco 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I'm reading an SRD thread right now where a Waffen-SS member was being defended. This site hurts my soul a lot, but this subreddit will always keep me coming back. Great representation of the American soccer fans and good Americans.

    [–]New England Revolutionthecoleslaw -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    /r/socialism and /r/anarchism are pretty damn good on those fronts too but agreed.

    [–]Indy ElevenDonnieNarco -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I frequent /r/socialism. It's pretty good but I think it's sometimes a weird dick-measuring contest of who is more socialist. Not enough acceptance of non-revolutionaries IMO. But yeah it's of course great for anti-fascism and anti-racism.

    [–]New England Revolutionthecoleslaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Mostly agreed, I just think the main criticism is with social democracy not with democratic socialism though. This should be framed better.

    [–]New York City FCKeeperEUSC 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Have never seen these guys at a game, I assume they're the group that got tossed after the 2nd match.

    [–]New England Revolutionjoshhw 41 points42 points  (1 child)

    Is this like that Dave Chappelle skit? Cause I can't take this seriously

    [–]San Jose Earthquakesdc_ae7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Specially after seeing this one

    [–]Pocono SnowLocksTheFox 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    Can we sell them to Lazio?

    [–]whitecapsfan2010 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Benfica or Beitar Jerusalem could really use these guys as well.

    [–]Colorado Rapids (Retro)director_leon 20 points21 points  (36 children)

    I hope this faux hooliganism thing is a fad, and that the stadium security can keep a handle on this without disrupting the rest of the supporters. Though now that I type that out, my hope in those companies fades rather fast. I wonder why the two new teams are having the most serious issues with this? NYCFC/Orlando fans, thoughts? Do you see any red flags at the games?

    [–]Orlando Citymikesicle 27 points28 points  (32 children)

    As far as we're concerned there haven't been problems. Small blip with those Vancouver fans but they weren't supporter group members.

    [–]Orlando Citysecretlyadog 6 points7 points  (31 children)

    No, man, haven't you heard?

    We're violent and aggressive wannabe hooligans. Our games are preceded by running street fights from Church St. all the way to the stadium.

    Look at all these violent hooligans!

    [–]Columbus Crewsocialistbob 10 points11 points  (5 children)

    They look like the kind of thugs my congressmen specifically warned me I should be afraid of.

    [–]Orlando Citysecretlyadog 7 points8 points  (4 children)

    Young voters? Yes.

    The AARP Hooligans sit on the other side of the stadium.

    [–]Columbus Crewsocialistbob 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Also the kid on the right has the USL Pro crest. That is some pretty nice supporter street cred right there.

    [–]Orlando CityHouse_on_the_Sea 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I see lots of people with the old USL jerseys or shirts at the Citrus Bowl. Always cool to see.

    [–]Orlando Citypvdfan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    My wallet says the USL-PRO crest will worn at each home game.

    [–]Orlando Citysecretlyadog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    We are poor, but we are loud.

    [–]Orlando Citymikesicle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAMILY FRIENDLY! DAMN HOOLIGANS!

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      [–]New York City FCExternalTangents 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I've been to every NYCFC home game, and my seats are one section over from the supporters sections. I have seen no red flags or signs of any issues. The only remotely problematic stuff I've heard of is the same publicized things that everyone else has heard about, after the fact and in the news. Frankly, it seems overblown.

      [–]New York Red BullsRamenPood1es 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah these people who try to be "hooligans" don't actually do anything and just make themselves look like idiots by trying to act tough

      [–]New York City FCPIako 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      DC, Metros and The Revs had skinhead supporters in their early days as well. It's a fad.

      [–]New York Red Bullslatenightfutbal 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      What a "unique" group of fellas. Wonder if their song sheets will be leaked?

      [–]Tulsa AthleticsNotClintDempsey 25 points26 points  (0 children)

      Found it.

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (18 children)

      Scrolling through their page I saw that they're also the "Empire State Ultras", so the guys responsible for this banner-

      https://twitter.com/JeffreyKleiman/status/596881342060699648

      Also- 1.3.1.2 is apparently slang for All Cops Are Bastards

      https://twitter.com/VivaLaShem/status/596879840759910400

      Real friendly and understanding guys it seems like.

      Edit: I'd really hope /s isn't necessary, but just incase you weren't sure the last comment is sarcastic.

      [–]New York CosmosStephcaflowne 31 points32 points  (4 children)

      Wait, how the hell can NYCFC supporters be "against modern football?" Is that supposed to be ironic?

      [–]Minnesota Unitedwildhockey64 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Haha shouldn't they be fans of the Brooklyn Italians or something then?

      [–]Montreal Impactzanycomet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, really didn't get that part

      [–]New York CosmosMGHeinz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I can't

      [–]New York City FCjoshdts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      These arent supporters. They're assholes.

      [–]Megaloman71 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Copying what European Ultras do for $500, Alex.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      >All Cops Are Bastards
>While being unapologetic fascists
>mfw

      [–]New York Red Bullsrazorhater 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      >NYCFC fan

      >against modern football

      All my keks

      [–]Major League SoccerCurryDutch 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      Correct me if I am wrong but when I was glancing through B49's facebook they referred to the Empire State Ultras as "our Polish brothers" which makes me think they are two separate groups.

      This is just so damn sad and makes no sense.

      Why would Hispanics become Neo Nazis and then support a team that has a majority Arab ownership?

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      I completely differ to you on that front, must of misread it. The fact that there are multiple groups like this makes it even more ridiculous though.

      [–]Major League SoccerCurryDutch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      If you want to take a look at the comment I am referring to then look for their post on April 23 (the second most recent post).

      It says "B49 & Our Polish brothers. Empire State Ultras" and then it has a picture with a few skinheads at a bar with one guy holding a blue and white scarf.

      Whatever the interpretation you choose to take though I agree that the more pressing issue is the fact that there is also a Polish far right group supporting NYCFC.

      [–]LA Galaxygrnrngr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      must of misread it.

      must've

      must have

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      Better view of the banner. [Attached pic] [Imgur rehost]

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      [–]New York City FCbpmo -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

      That 1.3.1.2 part is disgusting if that's really what it stands for.

      [–]Montreal Impactp1rke 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      The ACAB slang is deeply associated in ultras culture... May make less sense in NYC or especially with NYCFC, but in Europe it makes more sense as the cops are indeed bastards with the Ultras. (not saying it's never undeserved)

      [–]New York Red Bullsrobm0n3y 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      I like to use it as All Cats Are Beautiful.

      [–]New York City FCBobTheCod 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Except the hairless ones. Those creep me the fuck out.

      [–]Houston DynamoHOU-1836 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Lady and the Tramp ruined Siamese Cats for me. Those cats are evil, no matter who the owner is.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      To plagiarize PJ O'Rourke, that sounds like an PETA Spotted Owl Hunt.

      [–]Chicago NASLniton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      So looks like these were the guys who were shouting racist stuff in the SG section a couple of weeks ago. Matching jackets, skinheads, hispanic. A lot of similarities between these guys and the descriptions given.

      [–]DC UnitedLieutenantLudicrous 18 points19 points  (6 children)

      "You will never understand if you are not one of us"

      This is just so incredibly stupid...

      [–]Toronto FCalcabazar 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      They are not wrong

      [–]New York MetrostarsIndyanapolis 8 points9 points  (4 children)

      Identifying with an ideology that is literally against the rights of my race. Yeah, pretty sure I still don't understand.

      [–]DC UnitedLieutenantLudicrous -1 points0 points  (3 children)

      It makes no sense... It is almost hard to believe they are seriously that stupid.

      [–]Orlando Citysecretlyadog 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      It's about the camaraderie.

      I used to be a member of the Que Que Que. It was fun, you know, just hanging out with the guys. Chanting "Why-et Pow-air".

      The robes were pretty comfortable.

      [–]Houston DynamoHOU-1836 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Obligatory Clayton Bigsby

      [–]DC UnitedLieutenantLudicrous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Just to be clear... You are joking yeah?

      After reading the original post I feel like anything is possible.

      [–]Columbus CrewSlice2TonyBoogaloo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Aw look guys, they are playing "Ultra" how adorable.

      [–]Indy ElevenDonnieNarco 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Wait so these guys are neo-Nazi skinheads? Not punk rock skinheads? Holy shit that's embarrassing for them. They're the Hispanic Clayton Bigsby of the American soccer scene!

      Funny thing about people who think their race is superior often do not resemble the "ideal human" in physical appearance or mental capabilities.

      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      You'll note that there are multiple "88" in the comments and other vague references to Nazis.

      Scum of the earth, these guys.

      [–]LA Galaxygrnrngr 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I wonder of these posers actually understand the connection, though.

      [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      they know what they're doing. one of them was interviewed in a vice article a couple years ago.

      [–]Real Salt LakeMuchumbo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Saw "14/88" in there, googled it, was disgusted.

      [–]avisitorfrom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Keep my sports politics-free. Here's hoping we don't pick up one of the nastier aspects of European supporter groups/ultras.

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        [–]San Jose Earthquakeseddie_atleti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Good read actually.

        [–]Seattle SoundersLucasAmericano 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        This will probably get buried but is that Rachel Bonetta in one of their pictures from March 25th??

        [–]DC Unitedfranch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        wtf it does look like her

        [–]New York Red Bullsmeltingspace 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        So tough. Very scary. Much intimidation.

        [–]New York City FCGoose511th 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        wow

        [–]New York Red BullsCrazySomethingNormal 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        As disgusting as these fans are, I hope this doesn't cause other NYCFC fans to stop supporting the team.

        [–]New York City FCperpetual_student 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Exactly. There are groups like this supporting teams all over the world. The US isn't immune.

        FWIW, apart from that hugely popularized article from a couple weeks ago, I haven't heard anything about these guys at home matches and I've been to all but one.

        Not only that, but the cops and stadium security are suffocating in their vigilance. I'm sure they have one eye on these guys at all times if they show up.

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          [–]New York City FCdekal630 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          They're probably really misunderstood. I bet they're quite a nice bunch of lads.

          [–]New York Red Bullszensum 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          Likely a fairly heavy dose of RBNY / Metro fan bias so factor that in no doubt...

          But there's a caricaturish feel to the developing NYCFC fanbase...

          Neo-Nazi Latino skinheads...sassy in your face blue ladies...earnest LGBT folks...anti-cop ultras...homophobic chanters...then a main fanclub that has climbed to its dizzying heights with at least a whiff of club control...all about supporting a team that has played only a handful of games...

          Now MLS in general extending back to '96 and new clubs in particular when they launch suffer from a sense of playacting..."blank" until I die is highly questionable in any startup operation...

          NYCFC though seems to suffer more than most from a sense that acting out a variety of different "futbol" personas is driving their highly successful launch and to a disturbing degree (for what it's worth the founder and first leader of The Third Rail is a theatre guy)...

          Looking forward to seeing the NYCFC "show" at RedBullArena tomorrow...went to the Yankee Stadium opener (live on the Concourse in the Bronx so I went just to check it out) but if anything the "show" appears to have gotten even more outrageous since then...

          [–]DC Unitedfranch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          is there a problem with sassy ladies or earnest LGBT folks? :?

          [–]New York Red Bullszensum 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Nothing with those folks individually...

          But frankly...yes...some problem with a new fanbase that appears to be trying too hard to make up for lost time...

          Call me old-fashioned but shouldn't folks first become fans of the team and then seek out likeminded fellow fans and organically form sub groups...it's your cross to bear (and you're bearing it quite well to the tune of 27K at the Stadium...lol) but some of the intensity seems a little inauthentic to me at least...

          Coming home from the game on the Path train discussed RBNY being indeed a city team with a couple with the staunchest views that playing in New Jersey was a disqualifier...I was taken aback particularly by their deep speaking accents...you see they were clearly from some part of Britain and I guessed not living here very long...so I was thinking how did folks from across the ocean have such strident views on this subject...just part and parcel I guess of the fanatically mindset of some NYCFC fans...after just 10 games...

          Had a NYCFC guy pick up a folding chair from the walkway in front of the upper deck and threaten to throw it into the stands after the lightest banter between he and RBNY fans on Sunday...in front of his wife and child...we talked him down and extended handshakes to seal the end of the episode...10 games...

          Too much...too soon...IMHO...

          [–]DC Unitedfranch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          part of me gets what you are saying but part of me doesn't. yeah, some of the chants were cringey, but i've seen metrostars chant sheets from their inception too. there being 15 "supporters groups" is super silly and reminds me of the judean peoples' front from monty python's life of brian. but should NYCFC fans be lukewarm on the team at best and be only a little excited at matches until we've played for a few years and then we're good to be more excited? that doesn't seem right.

          p.s. folding chair fan was just a dickhead. all sports teams have dickhead fans. pls do not associate his behavior with all fans of nycfc.

          [–]New York Red Bullszensum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Fair enough...this commentary is clearly about just elements within the NYCFC fanbase...but there are elements...didn't hear a lot from The Third Rail on Sunday buy did hear the homophobic chants on 2 goal kicks in the second half...elements...and those chants gave the South Ward license for a very enthusiastic YSA lol...

          [–]New England Tea MenVendettaR2007 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Rangers of MLS

          [–]New York Red BullsUTLRev1312 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          "it's just the red hand of ulster salute, honest!"

          [–]Austin Aztex_shane 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          I think any racist, sexist, homophobic or violent undertones are definitely not cool. Having said that, I think the league (and NYCFC especially) needs some non-cookie cutter supporters groups with a little attitude.

          [–]LA Galaxygrnrngr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          What's the benefit of attitude?

          The only attitude needed is "unwavering loyalty."

          All the SG faithful have that.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          This is violent and inappropriate.

          [–]Orlando CitySmecker 4 points5 points  (5 children)

          Skinhead culture isn't exclusively about racism or far-right politics. It grew out of British kids imitating West Indian and Jamaican culture. It's really not that unusual to see skinheads of different races in many different countries.

          [–]Philadelphia Unionthanksbastards 7 points8 points  (4 children)

          I think everyone here gets that, but there's clear nazi/fascist references in both the clothing and comments on some of the pictures. no bueno

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            [–]Philadelphia Unionthanksbastards 7 points8 points  (2 children)

            Photo from April 23 shows the dude on the far left sporting a Totenkopf, and photo from April 18 a guy in an "Anti-Antifa" shirt. Antifa being short for Anti-Fascist, which you would only really care to point out if you were a Neo-Fascist yourself.

            Edit: Also multiple references to "Poder Latino"(Latino power), including a picture from 3/6/14 literally of a swastika with the top right portion turned into a P...I don't know how much more incriminating you can get with that one.

            [–]Orlando CitySmecker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I wasn't defending this group just pointing out that none whites associated with skinhead culture shouldn't be viewed as that unusual. I think there is more than enough evidence in those pictures to show that these guys definitely have a connection to the more racist aspects of the culture.

            Also I can't look at the Totenkopf without thinking of this sketch

            [–]New England Revolutionthecoleslaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Not all skinheads are racist. There is actually a significant group of explicitly anti-racist skinheads. Everyone here should look into SHARP Skins. I do not know enough about this group to cast judgement simply because of their name as it seems many are doing. Skinhead culture started with reggae in the UK and was very diverse. Fascist and racist skins do not exclusively define the movement.

            [–]Major League Soccertrevor_daniles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Yikes. Keep me away from these people.

            [–]Portland Timberscommenterx 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            Garber must have wanted to jump off a bridge when he found out his marquee team has a skinhead supporters group.

            [–]New York City FCcarpy22 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            Especially since Garner is a Jew from Flushing Queens.

            [–]Seattle Sounderskyoutenshi 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            I didn't know Jennifer Garner was from queens...

            [–]New York City FCcarpy22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Garber fuck

            [–]New England Revolutionred_white_and_soccer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            How cute.

            [–]New York Red Bullsrobm0n3y 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Hispanic Skinhead group with a few random Poles thrown in.

            [–]Philadelphia Unionphiberoptick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            if they are sharps or boneheads who gives a shit, but if they aint

            [–]Sporting Kansas Cityheavylids 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Ah for crud sakes!

            [–]Megaloman71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Just a bunch of scensters.

            "Skinheads in England watch soccer! I guess we should watch soc...er, football too!"

            Tres authentic!

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              [–]Bethlehem Steel FCjpoRS 6 points7 points  (1 child)

              Yeah that's sports.

              [–]Indy ElevenDonnieNarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              The thing about soccer is that the clubs in Europe historically came from certain subsections. Rangers and Celtic are a great Anglophone example. I'm sure there are just as many racists and scumbags and fascists who support football or baseball teams, but there isn't the institutionalized organization of their disgusting beliefs like there are at places like Rangers.

              [–]Reno 1868Raff_Out_Loud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Is OP a member?

              Because you guys are adorable.

              [–]LA GalaxyChralemar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              And the mainstreaming begins. Now you'll hear hipsters saying that they were fans before everyone ELSE became a fan.

              Edit: I mean *supporters.

              [–]New York City FCspacejamisraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              WTF make this stop

              [–]t_ran_asuarus_rex -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              what a bunch of losers.

              [–]New York City FCJutman1776[🍰] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

              Can NYCFC Eradicate these guys like say when a University finds a affiliated frat in the wrong.... at the very least find there names and ban them from all matches at the stadium.

              [–]MetroStarsCOLLINRUDOLPH -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              I had to peel one of their stickers off the bathroom at RBA near section 120. These guys are so cruddy- destroy your own stadium!

              [–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

              Looks like a wonderful group of guys. More power to them. I can think of at least 88 reasons to have groups like this in the NYCFC fandom. Red Bull arena is tough to find so happy hunting this sunday, guys!

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