Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested move process is not mandatory, and sometimes, an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If a consensus is reached after this time, a mover will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or be as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
The Move review process can be used to contest a move. It is designed to evaluate a contested close of a move discussion to determine if the close was reasonable, or whether it was inconsistent with the spirit and intent of Wikipedia common practice, policies, or guidelines.
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When not to use this page[edit]
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space – (new/unconfirmed users only) add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves[edit]
Anyone can be bold and move a page without discussing it first and gaining an explicit consensus on the talk page. If you consider such a move to be controversial, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Requesting technical moves[edit]
If you are unable to complete a technical move, request it below.
- To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist| current page title | new page title | reason = reason for move}}
- This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
- If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Uncontroversial technical requests[edit]
Contested technical requests[edit]
Requests to revert undiscussed moves[edit]
Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves[edit]
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. The move is potentially controversial if any of the following apply:
- There is an existing article (not just a redirect) at the target title;
- There has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- Someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. In particular, use this process before moving any existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page at that title. For technical move requests (e.g. spelling and capitalization fixes), see Requesting technical moves.
Do not put more than one open move request on the same article talk page, because this is not supported by the bot that handles updates to this page. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Requesting a single page move[edit]
To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:Requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this.}}
Replace NewName
with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 15 December 2016" and sign for you.
Use the code |talk=yes
to add separate locations for survey and discussion.
Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as RfC, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topic.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article Alerts to receive RM notifications, e.g. this page is transcluded to here. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or Noticeboard that might be interested in the move request.
Requesting multiple page moves[edit]
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this.}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
, and replace current2
with Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign a request with ~~~~
as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.
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{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 10:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC) |
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{{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why|talk=yes}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → new – why Example (talk) 10:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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{{subst:Requested move |new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}} |
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{{subst:Requested move |new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}} |
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Commenting in a requested move[edit]
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. It is a place for rational discussion of whether an article should be renamed.
There are a number of practices that most Wikipedians use in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they usually do so in bold text, e. g., Support or Oppose, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding
~~~~
to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s). - Please disclose whether you have a vested interest in the article, per WP:AVOIDCOI.
- Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator or other editors. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior Requested Moves. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Ideally editors should be familiar with WP:Article titles, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:MOS (among others) which sets forth community norms for article titles.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments.
- When making your case or responding to others, explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
- Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between <s> and </s> after the *, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Also, just a reminder that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current Requested Move process.
Closing instructions[edit]
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request.
Relisting[edit]
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}
, which also signs it automatically, and is placed at the very end of the initial request (after their signature, and subsequent re-listers signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as to notify relevant WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Applicable WikiProjects can often be determined by means of the banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request.
Current discussions[edit]
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
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Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format.
December 15, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – Pizzagate (conspiracy theory) → Pizzagate – Suggest moving this over Pizzagate and including a hat note pointing to Battle of the Buffet#Pizzagate, since this seems to currently be fairly clearly the WP:PRIMARYUSAGE, and more so, is a stand alone article, and not a section in an article, the main title of which, readers seem more likely to search for. TimothyJosephWood 01:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC) – relisted by SSTflyer 10:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mary Anne MacLeod Trump → Mary MacLeod Trump – per WP:COMMONNAME – Mrs. Trump (née MacLeod), mother of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump is not known by her full name (including her maiden name) as most subjects are not. Per Wikipedia guidelines, we use the subject's common name. She is known as Mary MacLeod Trump in multiple news sources (DailyMailExpress UKUS WeeklyIrish Central) with 276,000 results on Google Search. The reason to move to the proposed title is that Mary Trump and Mary Anne Trump, though also common name for his mother, is easily ambiguous as her daughter is also named Maryanne Trump, thus the proposed title is the best title for the subject and most common. CookieMonster755 𝚨-𝛀 23:52, 26 November 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. —UY Scuti Talk 03:52, 4 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — JFG talk 06:58, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Steamboat Bill Jr. → Steamboat Bill, Jr. – This is a procedural move request as this page was moved to Steamboat Bill, Jr. via this technical move request, but was then reverted a few hours later (by me) in this revert request. This move request seems to be a dispute over whether or not the printed article title (with a comma) takes precedence over WP:JR. (For the record, I am neutral.) Steel1943 (talk) 05:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Water Music (Handel) → Water Music – one of the most important Baroque period works. Telemann Water Music doesn't really come close, neither do some of the random other things with the name. (the DAB page has already been moved) Prisencolin (talk) 03:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Jose (1999) → Hurricane Jose – Only storm named Jose that became a hurricane. Suggesting the dab be also moved to Tropical Storm Jose. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 01:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Genesis Open → Los Angeles Open – The event was known as the Los Angeles Open from 1926 to 1994. IMO it's better to use the un-sponsored name that was used for 75% of its history rather than to move the page every time the sponsor changes. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 01:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Historical background of the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine → Russians in Ukraine – We have a bunch of articles of this kind, such as Russians in Latvia, etc. The article as it stands is a "POV fork" of the (unwritten yet) article about Russians in Ukraine which is of general interest regardless any conflict. Also, for the subject of the title it borders of WP:SYNTH. E.g. how come 18th century is a "background"; which sources describe these times as a background of 2014 events?. I understand, an article may have a "Background" section, which describe immediately close events. Just look how the background of World War II is covered: no further than WWI, i.e., mere quarter-century. But this one, with already existing content, must be finished to its logical end: the whole history of Russians is in fact background of the today, not just some cherry-picked highlights. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC) Staszek Lem (talk) 00:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Georef → GEOREF – The proper name is GEOREF, as used by all primary references in the article. +mt 00:40, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
December 14, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – Abbey of Santa Maria delle Macchie, San Ginesio → Santa Maria delle Macchie Abbey, San Ginesio –
- (Discuss) – Pick15 → Number Scrabble – Don Norman calls this game "Pick15" in his 1988 Psychology of Everyday Things, but John Michon and Michael Herbert both call it "Number Scrabble" in papers from the 1960s, and this seems to be a more WP:COMMONNAME for it. A Google Books search turns up 94 results for "tic-tac-toe" "number scrabble" and 3 for "tic-tac-toe" "pick 15" (with or without a space); a straight Google search is about 2,800-1,100 in favour of "Number Scrabble". McGeddon (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Raymond Chan → Raymond Chan (Canadian politician) – The HK politician is known as "Raymond Chan Chi-chuen", "Raymond Chan", "Ray Chan". Search for that guy at Google or Bing. Also, Statistics prove that the HK politician is more popular than the Canadian one. If the Canadian politician is disambiguated, the numbers will go down. Also, the "Ray Chan" dabpage should be renamed to "Raymond Chan". The previous RMs had just three opposers. However, two IPs who opposed came from Quebec, Canada: one from Vieux-Saint-Laurent and one from Beaconsfield. Also, the hatnote argument is a little weak for me per statistics. George Ho (talk) 21:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Just Dance Kids (2010 video game) → Just Dance Kids – Revert back to old title, which I can't do without help from an Adaim. Also part of my speedy deletion of the target page (which is an Disambiguation). Aaron's The Best (talk) 03:11, 3 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Tavix (talk) 20:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Conversion of non-Muslim places of worship into mosques → Conversion of non-Islamic places of worship into mosques – Maybe I'm being overly pedantic, but this seems more correct. "Islamic" means of or related to Islam; "Muslim" means of or related to a Muslim (i.e., a follower of Islam). This came up at a related category renaming discussion. Likewise, Conversion of places of worship into mosques also seems acceptable and more concise. There are Islamic places of worship that aren't mosques, and you could have one that gets sanctified as a mosque, but "conversion" probably isn't the word you'd use for that. --BDD (talk) 18:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Krampus in North American popular culture → Krampus in popular culture – There's no need to limit this article's scope to North America, even if most pop-cultural expressions of him arise in North America (or if those are just the ones we're more familiar with). Krampus is probably more a part of the "regular" culture of Europe, but there's no reason he couldn't show up in European popular culture as well. If the point of this article is to suggest North America has somehow perverted Krampus, Krampus in North America, suggested in the above section, might be an option. If this article is not moved to my proposed title, that title should instead redirect to Krampus#In popular culture. It should not be red (cf. WP:INUSA). --BDD (talk) 15:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Todd Graves → Todd Graves (attorney) – Over one year the entrepreneur received more page views by an order of magnitude. [1]. Yesterday the attorney received a promotion to chair of the Missouri Republican Party, so I don't think any topic is primary. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 13:20, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Ho-soon (cyclist) → Kim Ho-soon – WP:TITLE Sawol (talk) 12:07, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Folio Prize → Rathbones Folio Prize – the name change reflects the new name of the prize after it was recently announced that the prize has a new sponsor, Rathbones. This new name is reflected in news sources covering the prize, including this Bookseller article, http://www.thebookseller.com/news/investment-company-rathbones-sponsor-folio-prize-446516, and the prize's official website, http://www.thefolioprize.com/the-prize/ Scope78 (talk) 11:00, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bernie → Bernie (disambiguation) – WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT Bernie Sanders has the most page views and he is often known just as "Bernie". Bernie Mac is the only oher contender in this respect, but for short he is usually referred to as just "Mac", as opposed to Bernie.--Prisencolin (talk) 02:13, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Flexible flyer → Flexible Flyer – Flexible Flyer is a brand name, which per MOS:TMRULES should be capitalized. Ibadibam (talk) 02:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward → Killings of Alison Parker and Adam Ward – Besides the picture issue, I think the article needs to be renamed. As noted in countless other discussions, "Murders of ..." is inaccurate in this instance. Its colloquial use to refer to any homicidal act notwithstanding, the deliberate killing of one person or persons by another or others cannot be called a murder by Wikipedia (outside of certain historical cases where the common name for the crime includes the word "murder", e.g. Black Dahlia murder) unless a trier of fact has convicted them of that crime specifically or they have pled guilty to it. That never happened in this case ... the perpetrator took his own life before he could be apprehended, much less prosecuted. Now, I know this was long enough back that BLP no longer applies. But it was recent enough a crime that I think we should stick with this rule. I have normally preferred to use "... homicide" in naming articles about apparent deliberate killings. But since this one has two named victims, I think, we'd be better off going to the less awkward Killings of Alison Parker and Adam Ward. Daniel Case (talk) 03:46, 14 December 2016 (UTC) Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
December 13, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – Raymond Chan Chi-chuen → Chan Chi-chuen – I was the one who requested to change it to the previous title so I wonder why it was reverted back to the current title without being invited to the discussion until now. But my reasons for making the move is as stated before: There are some articles who use the "English name+Chinese family name+Chinese given name" but as you can see they are not the created by trained wikipedia editors who are familiar with the common practice. On the contrary, there are more examples which use just "English name+Chinese family name" or "Chinese family name+Chinese given name". If you see the legco.gov.hk you can see that Chan Chi-chuen goes by his Chinese name only. To be honest, although George Ho says there are many English sources use "Raymond Chan Chi-chuen" rather than "Chan Chi-chuen", but let me remind you that is the common practice for them to use the "English name+Chinese family name+Chinese given name" just to be clearer, such as "Donald Tsang Yam-kuen" instead of "Donald Tsang" or "Albert Ho Chun-yan" than "Albert Ho", but that would not make the basis for changing the title from "Donald Tsang" to "Donald Tsang Yam-kuen" or "Albert Ho" to "Albert Ho Chun-yan". So I would like to revert it back to what it was, that is "Chan Chi-chuen" instead of the long and unnecessary "Raymond Chan Chi-chuen". Lmmnhn (talk) 12:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Park Myeong-su → Park Myung-soo – 1. Popular usage. The search result of Park Myung-soo -wikipedia is 1,110,000, compared to Park Myeong-su -wikipedia which gives 263,000 results. A search for "Park Myung-soo" -wikipedia with quotation marks gives 388,000 results, where "Park Myeong-su" -wikipedia gives 58,500 results. A search for Infinite Challenge Park -wikipedia also gives Myung Soo or Myung-soo as the popular usage. 2. Myung-soo with only the first syllable capitalized is selected by WP:NC-KO#Given name. It is also how the wikipedia page for Myung-soo as a Korean given name is spelled. Autokiij (talk) 09:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 11:01, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bophuthatswana conflict (1994) → ? – Was the event a "coup d'état" or a "conflict"? If the former, the title should be Bophuthatswana coup d'état, which I prefer over Bophuthatswana coup d'état (1994) or Bophuthatswana coup d'état of 1994. Otherwise, remove "(1994)" as there are no other notable events of the same name. As I can see, the incident lasted a few days or less. If neither "coup d'état" or "conflict", another name must be used. George Ho (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Confederate Monument in Louisville → Confederate Monument in Brandenburg – The monument has been fully moved to Brandenburg, Kentucky from the previous location in Louisville. Citations for the move in the article. Naming convention of other pages for monuments in Kentucky follow with just the town name. Moving a monument such as this is a bit unprecedented so I could anticipate an argument as to why should not change (121 year history in Louisville). But it seems to me, it would generate more confusion keeping it the way it is. Kintpuash (talk) 08:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bing → Bing (search engine) – The long-term significance of this page as the primary topic is highly questionable, considering it has only had its current name for the last seven years, with the design being preceded by products such as Live Search and MSN Search, which first appeared in 1998, and the fact that those are redirects into this page also suggest this current name is not as prevalent as it seems. Given the history of the Microsoft search engine, it may just be a matter of time before it takes on a new name. Bing has somewhat overtaken Yahoo's share of the search engine market, there is at least a remote likelihood Microsoft may merge its services under the Yahoo brand entirely. Wikipedia is WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTNEWS, so there's no reason to promote a particular product that has just become popular in the last few years, this is likely WP:SYSTEMATICBIAS and WP:RECENTISM. The search engine might be getting more page views at the moment, but if page view information were available from all of Wikipedia's existence, the search engine would not be as clearly the primary topic as it seems, not the least related to the fact that the Bing search engine name has only been around since 2007. Also, the sum of all of the other Bings also clearly outweigh the product as far as cultural significance. You would think someone like Bing Crosby, with a rather distinct nickname is associated with just "Bing", especially so because of his legacy as "the best-selling recording artist of the 20th century". Also the page views of Bing (bread) are probably lower than they should be, considering that WP is officially blocked in Mainland China (not the English edition, however), and most of those views are diverted to Baidu or the Chinese edition accessed through VPN. Finally, the Bing cherry cultivar is decidedly "the most produced variety of sweet cherry in the United States Prisencolin (talk) 07:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Double Jeopardy (film) → Double Jeopardy (1999 film) – I've seen this issue brought up with other articles before, so I'll give this one a shot. Since this article is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term Double Jeopardy, and there are other films of the same name (Double Jeopardy (1955 film) and Double Jeopardy (1992 film)), I think it should be disambiguated with the year per WP:NCFILM#Between films of the same name. The article's current name is an WP:INCDAB. Titles of this nature are discussed at WP:PDAB, but there seems to be no site-wide consensus as to what should be done and different discussions often produce different results. Eventhorizon51 (talk) 06:47, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Faithless electors in the United States presidential election, 2016 → 2016 United States Electoral College – Both more succinct and more commodious. kencf0618 (talk) 06:25, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ablekuma Central (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ablekuma Central – Sole main title headers which bear these specific appellations, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifiers. There is, however a caveat in that WP:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies) states, "United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies (current or defunct) should have a uniform suffix of "(UK Parliament constituency)" or "(Scottish Parliament constituency)" as appropriate, whether or not this is required for disambiguation. A redirect or disambiguation page entry must always be made from the basic name." Therefore, if the UK Parliament naming conventions extend to the entire Commonwealth of Nations, of which Ghana is a member, then this multiple page move nomination becomes a moot point and the main header should be moved from WP:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies) to WP:Naming conventions (Commonwealth of Nations Parliament constituencies) or WP:Naming conventions (UK and Commonwealth of Nations Parliament constituencies). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 05:20, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ablekuma North (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ablekuma North
- Ablekuma South (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ablekuma South
- Ablekuma West (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ablekuma West
- Abokobi-Madina (Ghana parliament constituency) → Abokobi-Madina
- Ayawaso Central (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ayawaso Central
- Ayawaso East (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ayawaso East
- Ayawaso West (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ayawaso West
- Dade Kotopon (Ghana parliament constituency) → Dade Kotopon
- Dome-Kwabenya (Ghana parliament constituency) → Dome-Kwabenya
- Domeabra-Obom (Ghana parliament constituency) → Domeabra-Obom
- Klottey Korle (Ghana parliament constituency) → Klottey Korle
- Kpone-Katamanso (Ghana parliament constituency) → Kpone-Katamanso
- Krowor (Ghana parliament constituency) → Krowor
- Ledzokuku (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ledzokuku
- Ningo-Prampram (Ghana parliament constituency) → Ningo-Prampram
- Odododiodoo (Ghana parliament constituency) → Odododiodoo
- Okaikwei North (Ghana parliament constituency) → Okaikwei North
- Okaikwei South (Ghana parliament constituency) → Okaikwei South
- Sege (Ghana parliament constituency) → Sege
- Shai-Osudoku (Ghana parliament constituency) → Shai-Osudoku
- Tema East (Ghana parliament constituency) → Tema East
- Tema West (Ghana parliament constituency) → Tema West
- Trobu-Amasaman (Ghana parliament constituency) → Trobu-Amasaman
- (Discuss) – 2016 United States election interference by Russia → Russian interference in the 2016 United States presidential campaign – The title of this article says "interference" in the US "election". The word "election" implies that Russia interfered with the voting process, as "election" means: "the selection of a person or persons for office by vote."[1] The article, however, doesn't mention Russia interfering with the voting process, but releasing private DNC emails and promoting propaganda. In order to ensure clarity of title, I suggest the page be moved to "Russian interference in the 2016 United States presidential campaign" to reflect that the interference occurred with the campaigning (generating opinions, etc.) and not the voting process itself. 11Eternity11 (talk) 03:48, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cao Bao (died 196) → Cao Bao – Only/primary topic. Timmyshin (talk) 03:45, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Leverpostej → Liver pâté – While this food differs from the traditional French/Belgian pâtés, this more smooth liver variant is not an exclusively Danish product, nor is it called "Leverpostej" anywhere outside of Denmark, regardless the fact that the ingredients/production/use is the same. As it is a "pâté" by definition ("a rich, savoury paste made from finely minced or mashed ingredients, typically seasoned meat or fish" according to Oxford dictionary) and it is differentiated by the use of liver tissue instead of muscle tissue, it should be differentiated as such. Chuubii (talk) 02:14, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Geovanni Deiberson Maurício → Geovanni – I made a mistake with the redirect 5 years ago. As he's the only person with this particular spelling of "Geovanni", it should be just that Unreal7 (talk) 01:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
December 12, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – List of countries with overseas military bases → List of overseas military bases by country – Obviously, this title is more accurate. This isn't just a list of countries, its a list of military bases grouped by country. To User:Iryna Harpy, please actually read the past requested move before knee jerk reverting a straightforward change. It was opposed because it involved changing "overseas military bases" to "military bases aboard". Nothing to do with correcting the poor arrangement of the title, which is what all I have amended here. Edit: I notice you actually commented, what the hell? Rob984 (talk) 23:25, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lego Nexo Knights → Nexo Knights – I don't think it is necessary to prefix the title of the series with the Lego stamp. When I record this on PVR it just said 'Nexo Knights' half the time. This isn't like DreamWorks Dragons where it's necessary to include the company to generate a unique name. At https://www.lego.com/en-gb/nexoknights you can see on the yellow menu they just have 'Nexo Knights' in isolation. More importantly the title cards at the start of each episode use a Nexo Knights logo without Lego on it, and the end credits also just call it Nexo Knights, not Lego Nexo Knights. Ranze (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Ace double novels → List of Ace double titles – For accuracy, and for consistency with related list articles. A significant number of the books on the list are not novels, but short fiction collections of stand-alone novellas. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 19:07, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Together (Alfie Boe and Michael Ball album) → Together (Michael Ball and Alfie Boe album) – Michael Ball is actually credited first. Unreal7 (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations → Donald Trump sexual assault allegations – I went over the archives and noticed a previous discussion on moving to a title using "assault" rather than "misconduct", which appears to have been resolved as "don't move". I'm reopening this thread because I think quite a different angle is involved: not that "assault" is insufficiently general but that "misconduct" is euphemistic. Evidently the theme of the article is assault, even if mere "misconduct" has also been alleged. A compromise might be a title with both terms or a term that conveys both. To me, however, it would be hard to swallow a title that implies it goes no further. Compare normal language use in which a term that lies on a spectrum may imply previous stages (assault implying misconduct) but not later stages (misconduct implying assault). Flipping Mackerel (talk) 18:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Run for Your Life → Run for Your Life (Beatles song) – Fails both parts of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The album track Lennon designated as his "least favourite Beatles song" only gets 81 of 227 average daily views of all the Run for Your Life topics. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:08, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Reviewing → Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes – To avoid confusion with what is done by New Page Reviewers, AfC reviewers, Good Article reviewers, Peer reviewers, and reviewing of Wikipedia content or edits in the general sense. : Noyster (talk), 13:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Railway line legend → Help:Railway line legend – See discussion at Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#Diagram articles. As has been mentioned before this is not really a template, as it only transcluded into a very few user pages, and the main use is the links from many RDTs. Therefore it would make sense to have this in help space rather than user space. Optimist on the run (talk) 12:39, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Old City Gaol, Bristol → New Gaol, Bristol – I understand that this gaol has been superceded by Horfield Prison, so is the old gaol in Bristol, but I've only really seen it referred to in sources as 'The New Gaol' as it was built to take on the inmates of Newgate Prison as well. Historic records at Bristol Archives fairly consistently name it 'New Gaol' ([2] for example), and it seems to be known mostly as 'The New Gaol' in modern publications ([3], [4]), including references used in the article itself. BRO MarkS (talk) 09:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Weija-Gbawe (Ghana parliament constituency) → Weija (Ghana parliamentary constituency) – Weija (Ghana parliamentary constituency) is a precursor constituency which was demarcated into three new constituencies – Anyaa-Sowutuom (Ghana parliamentary constituency), Bortianor-Ngleshie-Amanfrom (Ghana parliamentary constituency), and Weija-Gbawe (Ghana parliamentary constituency) ahead of the Ghanaian 2012 general elections (I have already made these statements on the article. So basically there's no Weija Weija (Ghana parliamentary constituency) in Ghana now, but, but it's also important that people know that it existed and it even had an MP and it's now split into the 3 areas mentioned above. sandioosesTextMe 08:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William More → William More (bishop) – No indication that the bishop is more sought after than all the combined other uses of this name. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:15, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 'Round Here → 'Round Here (Sawyer Brown song) – The article was recently disambiguated without consensus. I reverted it back, so proper consensus is needed. Also, the person who performed the disambiguation assumed that the apostrophe is inadequate to distinguish itself from other songs of the same name, "Round Here". George Ho (talk) 02:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
December 11, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – Prison Break (miniseries) → Prison Break (season 5) – Firstly I do no know where the miniseries name actually came from since I have never seen it used much outside of WP. Besides for that the official trailers on youtube.com/PrisonBreak all are calling it season 5. Additionally most RS are calling it season 5 as well, see [5], [6] and [7] as samples. GalatzTalk 22:41, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 13TH (film) → 13th (film) – Six of the eight external links in the article (excepting its Facebook and IMDb pages) refer to this film with the lowercased ordinal suffix. Fortune, Slate, the Los Angeles Times, CNN, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and just about every reliable source I've seen—that are not tied to Netflix itself—refer to this film as 13th, not 13TH. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rotherham College of Arts and Technology → Rotherham College – Name changed in February 2016. Bbb2007 (talk) 17:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Go Whippet → Whippet Coaches – Whippet has now stopped using the name "Go Whippet", and uses "Whippet" or "Whippet Coaches" on all its latest products and mentions on official websites, including its own ( http://www.go-whippet.co.uk/ ) . The company's twitter feed, although retaining the old 'gowhippet' username, for its full name uses 'Whippet Coaches' ( https://twitter.com/GoWhippet )- so I propose this page is renamed back to the original and the redirect is removed. Whistler (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jibangdo → Provincial highways of South Korea – Its name is transliterate of Korean language. In English Wikipedia, titles of highway systems of South Korea is xxxx of South Korea, not transliterated. Chugun (talk) 11:17, 26 November 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. —UY Scuti Talk 14:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 16:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MobySongs 1993–1998 → Songs 1993–1998 – "Moby" is not part of the album title according to the artist's offical website[8]. Additionaly, this seems to be the more common way to format the album title.[9] –Dream out loud (talk) 13:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zoo (Patterson novel) → Zoo (American novel) – The American novel has 2 authors, isn't it unfair that only one name appears in the title? WP:BOOKDAB doesn't say anything about a work with 2 authors, but nationality here appears to be the simpler disambiguation system to me. Timmyshin (talk) 04:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – China → People's Republic of China – China may be a short form name, but this article should be renamed to the People's Republic of China in contrast to the Republic of China that controls Taiwan. We know both entities claim to be the legitimate government of China. Wrestlingring (talk) 02:57, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Politics of China → Politics of the People's Republic of China – It's more convenient to rename this article Politics of the People's Republic of China in contrast to the Politics of the Republic of China article because there are two governmental entities that control and claim to be "One China. 135.23.144.153 (talk) 02:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinese Zhusuan → Zhusuan – WP:CONCISE. Timmyshin (talk) 20:20, 29 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 02:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Henry Conyngham, 8th Marquess Conyngham → Henry Mountcharles – per WP:COMMONNAME, and per WP:NCPEER.
This man is overwhelmingly known by the name "Henry Mountcharles". See Gnews searches: 101 hists for "Henry Mountcharles", but only 6 hits for "8th Marquess Conyngham" and 9 hits for "Henry Conyngham".
Note that while WP:NCPEER recommends use of the format "Personal name, Ordinal (if appropriate) Peerage title" per the current title, it lists an exception for 'peers who are almost exclusively known by their personal names: e.g. Bertrand Russell (not "Bertrand Russell, 3rd Earl Russell")'. This is one such exception. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:22, 27 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 01:43, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2004 Orange Prokom Open – Men's Singles → 2004 Idea Prokom Open – Men's Singles – I already move this article to fit the title with its Infobox and didn't notice that the name of the sponsor was different, so I'm asking another onw that can move articles to do it. Instead of "2004 Orange Prokom Open – Men's Singles", it should be called "2004 Idea Prokom Open – Men's Singles" in order to fit this article entirely with its Infobox. I apologize for my mistake. Pablito064 (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 01:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
December 10, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – CrossRef → Crossref – Current and correct capitalisation; see article lede. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cleveland (disambiguation) → Cleveland – In 2009, Cleveland the city was given primarytopic status, even though Cleveland the president and several Cleveland sports teams each gets many more page views. Clearly this should be a "no primarytopic" situation, and the ambiguous term should go straight to the disambig page. Dicklyon (talk) 23:15, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Flag of China → Flag of the People's Republic of China – Because there is already an article of the Flag of the Republic of China, moving this article will distinguish between the flags of Communist China and Nationalist China. The name of the article is getting too complicated given the fact the PRC controls the Mainland, Hong Kong and Macau whilst the ROC ONLY administers Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Matsu and some other islands. 135.23.144.153 (talk) 08:28, 3 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 23:11, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zorobabela Kaʻauwai → Zorobabela Kaauwai – per WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS: Various apostrophe(-like) variants (’ʻ ʾ ʿ ᾿ ῾ ‘ ’ c), should generally not be used in page titles. — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 19:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Supreme Council, Scottish Rite (Southern Jurisdiction, USA) → Supreme Council, Scottish Rite (Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.) – WP:NOTUSA, and the fact that someone moved it back in 2009 after the requested move in '08 was stale and no further discussion for the new [current] title. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 18:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kansas City metropolitan area → Kansas City – If the dabpage can't take over, then the metro area should take over the base title. Statistics say that the cities of the same name in Missouri and in Kansas have more hits than the metro area. However, the redirect and the metro area have more view hits than the disambiguation page. Therefore, "metropolitan area" may not be needed anymore. George Ho (talk) 17:39, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lilloise Flanders → Walloon Flanders – The common English name is currently a redirect to a neologism. Andreas Philopater (talk) 13:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Makam Habib Noh → Masjid Haji Muhammad Salleh & Makam Habib Noh – In addition to the Makam, there is also the Haji Md Salleh mosque adjacent to the makam. Both institutions are under the same administration[2], with the mosque's management overseeing the upkeeping of Makam Habib Noh. It makes perfect sense to move the page to "Masjid Haji Muhammad Salleh & Makam Habib Noh". 32cravenfan (talk) 09:39, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paul Banks (singer) → Paul Banks (musician) –
Paul Banks of Interpol is more of a musician than a "guitarist" or "singer" (also done bass, drums, DJing, piano), meanwhile Banks of Shed Seven has only done guitar and songwriting for the band. "Singer" just doesn't really fit for Banks of Interpol. Aria1561 (talk) 04:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
December 9, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – Adulyadej → Adulyadej (surname) – Redirect Adulyadej to Bhumibol Adulyadej. The late King is most likely the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC at hand here, and almost certainly eclipses his father in long-term significance to justify a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. "Adulyadej" AND "Bhumibol" renders about 68,600 results per Google Books; that number reduces drastically to 4,390 results for "Adulyadej" -"Bhumibol". When one factors alternative spellings for his first name, the results were even fewer. The majority of news, academic sources attribute "Adulyadej" to Bhumibol, and not his father. --Nevé–selbert 23:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hugo Filipe Oliveira → Hugo Vieira – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. [10] The Portuguese player is better known simply as Hugo. [11] ..::11soccero11::.. (talk) 20:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC).
- (Discuss) – I Don't Wanna Live Forever → I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) – Full title of song, and instead of speedy-deleting the full title's namespace to make room for the move, thinking it could be moved by an admin. Ss112 18:22, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edmund Rice (1638) → Edmund Rice (colonist) – Or anything really. The date is meaningless, so we need a better disambiguator. Rob Sinden (talk) 15:06, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Food Future, Inc. → FoodFutureCo – Brand refresh occurred in fall 2016 and company name was changed permanently from Food Future Inc to FoodFutureCo as evidenced by all social media and company website. FFC 2017 (talk) 12:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Round Here (disambiguation) → Round Here – Statistics would say that the Counting Crows song is the most popular. However, almost half of users go to other pages, like the Florida Georgia Line song or George Michael. Also, the title itself is too vague to consider it the Counting Crow song. George Ho (talk) 11:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cylinder → Cylinder (disambiguation) – There's a clear primary topic. This move was proposed five years ago and supported, but never executed. -- Fyrael (talk) 06:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Il Caravaggio International Airport → Orio al Serio International Airport – Orio al Serio seems to be the most recognizable name, for example, in Google search it has 3 times the results [12] [13]. This is also in accordance with other airports in Italy, which although all have an "official" name, they are usually referred to with the place in which they are located (e.g. Linate Airport). Ita140188 (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fvlgvres → Fulgures (album) – Opening this for discussion, as I'm not entirely convinced "Fulgures" is not WP:OR. Yes, it's a reasonable assumption that this is what the title means due to the Roman V standing in for "u", and I fully admit it is a stylism, but this feels tantamount to spelling profanity out on Wikipedia when a source censors them because "we know what they mean". Most sources I have seen from a simple Google search use "Fvlgvres" (whether in lower or upper case). Wanting to know what other editors think about the rename. Ss112 03:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tracey Wigginton → Murder of Edward Baldock – Article is presently about just one of the four accused. TW was not notable prior to this incident. Present article has large chunks about the others and their fate. More on trial and sentencing needed for all participants. Dmol (talk) 01:38, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
December 8, 2016[edit]
- (Discuss) – ABC nations → ABC countries – Common name. Please see the Google Ngram results ([14]).-- MarshalN20 Talk 17:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Human rights in post-invasion Iraq → Human rights in Iraq – Usually the title should discuss the current situation. Other topics should be disambiguated. 115.27.206.125 (talk) 16:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Munich School of Political Science → Bavarian School of Public Policy – The current name is not the offical english translation of the german version (Hochschule für Politik München). As you may see, the offical english translation is: Bavarian School of Public Policy. As a reference please visit the offical english website: http://www.hfp.tum.de/en/contact/ Agamben2004 (talk) 15:40, 1 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 15:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life → Lara Croft, Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life – The comma was used as the title of the film, in the similar fashion of the film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) and the sequel Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: Sword of Destiny (2016). Because of the title character's name and the name of the video game franchise, this will fit perfectly as the real title in order to understand. 115.133.88.81 (talk) 11:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jesús López Sanchez → Jesús López (weightlifter) – Similar to other Spanish names, only name and surname with (weightlifter) for disambiguation. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:13, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – BLACKsummers'night → Black Summers' Night (2009 album) – MOS:TM stylisms gone bonkers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:12, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – High-energy visible light → Blue light hazard – I propose a rename of this article to Blue Light Hazard or something similar (the name of the main section of this article). I can't find much reliable evidence that high-energy visible light is a widespread and accepted term for blue light (I can find no sources with a precise definition), it is used as a general term in some scientific publications I have come across but rarely as a specific term worthy of its own article (or as the initialism HEV) Two of the three sources in the lead refer to blue light rather than high energy visible light. I would argue the current title is therefore not recognisable, natural or precise Beevil (talk) 15:02, 29 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 11:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sato Amina → Amina Sato – First name first, last name last. Moscow Connection (talk) 11:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Elapsed listings[edit]
- (Discuss) – Sainte-Marguerite River → Sainte-Marguerite River (Saguenay River) – It appears that this article is for the Sainte-Marguerite River in the Mont-Valin territory of the Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean region of Quebec that flows into the Saguenay River. However, there seems to be another Sainte-Marguerite River just west of Sept-Îles, Quebec and the Moïse River in the Côte-Nord region of Quebec. I'm having a hard time corroborating this because I'm not literate in French, don't live anywhere near Quebec, and there are indications that both rivers have embayments but the latter one near Sept-Îles flows directly into the Saint Lawrence River west of the 7-island chain fronting the town. I found references to a dam or barrage, which I believe is this one: Denis-Perron Dam shown as Barrage-Sainte-Marguerite in Google Maps. This all means that this article needs to be moved to another page indicating its parent river (Saguenay River) and a second river page needs to be created with the appropriate parent river (Saint Lawrence River) (or new page may just be called Saint-Marguerite River as with this article since it appears to be larger and flows into a larger river similarly to disambiguation with the Snake River). Curoi (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 10:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Express Group → National Express – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCCORP. "Group" is not an integral part of the company name. The logo states "National Express" not "National Express Group". SSTflyer 09:03, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – London Calling → London Calling (album) – BBC callsign, BBC magazine, Noel Coward musical, Rolling Stone No.15 of 500 greatest songs of all time, album... no topic which satisfies both requirements of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:22, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chakri Dynasty → Chakri dynasty – Consistency with other pages in Category:Asian dynasties and use in reliable sources, e.g.[15][16][17] Celia Homeford (talk) 11:48, 1 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:10, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Temptation of Wife → Temptation of Wife (2008 TV series) – This was disambiguated without discussion; I reverted it back to original title for proper discussion. Here are last year's and this year's statistics. However, they seem inconclusive, even when the numbers say that the Korean series is more popular than the other. Otherwise, the last 90 days say that both series come close. Feel free to comment. George Ho (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TimeSplitters (series) → TimeSplitters – Series has more than 3 video game articles now per WP:NCVG, set this page to be the primary article. – Neverrainy (talk) 00:28, 4 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 21:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Christian denominations by number of members → List of largest Christian denominations – Per WP:Consistency with equivalent lists of quantities. Not all listed denominations apply, count or estimate membership so that the terminology could be applied generally over the board. Although almost the same thing, "largest" would probably apply more suitably. Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fake news website → Fake news – The ultimate subject is "fake news"; Fake news originate/propagate not only via dedicated websites. They may also be generated via social networks - üser:Altenmann >t 20:11, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – WataMote → No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular! – This is the official English title of the original work, which this article primarily covers.[18] The anime series is the only part that uses the title WataMote, but it is an adaptation of the manga and it is not the primary topic. Also, as indicated by the discussion about, there is another manga series that uses the short title of WataMote, thus requiring disambiguation between the two. —Farix (t | c) 11:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shanghai massacre of 1927 → Shanghai massacre – WP:CONCISE, no other well-known massacre in Shanghai. Timmyshin (talk) 16:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Telegraph (Calcutta) → The Telegraph (India) – Because The Telegraph has branches not just in Calcutta, but even outside like Jharkhand, Patna and Bhubaneshwar. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:29, 7 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 15:14, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Backlog[edit]
- (Discuss) – KGOF-LP → KSDI-LD – There is no station called KGOF-LP, it is still KSDI. See FCC query. John123521 (Talk-Contib.) RA 09:39, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cuban revolutionary propaganda → Propaganda in Cuba – Propaganda in Foo country rather than Fooian propaganda is the standard name for articles in Category:Propaganda by country. This is the only odd duck in that category tree. Now, granted, this article focuses on propaganda in Cuba from the revolutionary times onward, but when most people think "Propaganda in Cuba", they reasonably think of the communist/Castro regimes, not of the now-mostly-forgotten pre-Castro government. I think this article would be much better as Propaganda in Cuba, and if someone wants I am sure it can have the lead slightly changed and a section on pre-revolutionary propaganda added eventually. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Charlotte (wrestler) → Charlotte Flair – As with Natalya Neidhart, WP:NATDAB would have applied anyway, but should be moved per WP:NAMECHANGES as this is what she is being billed as now.[19] LM2000 (talk) 20:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 03:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – What a Man (song) → Whatta Man – The cover version by Salt-n-Peppa and En Vogue was the most successful out of three versions. Also, the proposed title was used for the most notable version. Even the cover version has more Google results than other versions, especially with the proposed title used. George Ho (talk) 07:33, 18 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 03:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transcaucasia → South Caucasus – South Caucasus has 1,820,000 results but Transcaucasia — 394,000 results in Google search. It is clear that Transcaucasia is an obsolete term. Also, we use a similar connected term - North Caucasus. g. balaxaZe★ 08:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 01:19, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Masjid Sultan → Sultan Mosque – change to English title --Peaceworld 20:49, 21 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 00:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Western New Guinea → West Papua (region) – See Talk Page agreement in May 2010, until a new editor without explanation moved the article while alleging it was a "minor" edit on 1 May 2016 – Daeron (talk) 00:02, 5 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 00:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Æon Flux → Aeon Flux – The previous RM resulted in moving from "Æ" to "Ae" just for the TV series, not the others. Somehow, someone else reverted the title back without discussion. I want to move it back, but I can't partially due to the RM at Talk:Æon Spoke, which I almost forgot I did two years ago. Therefore, I am starting a newer discussion to form a consensus. If the result is "no consensus", maybe move back the title to "Aeon Flux" per previous RM? This discussion is a test case on the "Æ vs Ae" matter, which may need a central discussion after this local discussion. George Ho (talk) 23:05, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kamphaeng Phet Station → Kamphaeng Phet MRT Station – All other MRT Stations on the MRT Blue Line in Bangkok use the format xxxx MRT Station Matthewmayer (talk) 18:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 22:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palmers Shipbuilding and Iron Company → Palmer's Shipbuilding and Iron Company Ltd – Every source I've looked at in the last few days of working on HMS Spiteful[20] has used "Palmer's", not "Palmers", and the full title when given ends with "Ltd" (for "Limited", obviously). Nortonius (talk) 15:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 22:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nothing But the Truth → Nothing but the Truth – Must follow the RM discussion result from Talk:Nothing but the Truth (1941 film). The word "but" is not that significant to make an emotion about... Well, I lost much interest in letter casings due to... the "Like" fiasco. However, consistency is important. I see some 'But's but other 'but's; consistency is needed. As for MOS:CT, it might or might not enforce lowercasing "but", especially when it's used as either a coordinating conjunction or short-worded preposition. However, other non-Wikipedia guidelines, like Chicago, say lowercase "but". We can follow those outside guidelines if MOS:CT or WP:NCCAPS is not enough. George Ho (talk) 20:28, 28 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 21:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing But the Truth (1929 film) → Nothing but the Truth (1929 film)
- Nothing But the Truth (UK game show) → Nothing but the Truth (UK game show)
- Nothing But the Truth (Son Seals album) → Nothing but the Truth (Son Seals album)
- Nothing But the Truth (Southern Sons album) → Nothing but the Truth (Southern Sons album)
- (Discuss) – English Shepherd dog → English Shepherd – Shorter and unoccupied. --MASHAUNIX 21:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Airline Tariff Publishing Company → ATPCO – Common name of company; also primary topic, as disambiguation page only has two members. —C.Fred (talk) 20:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Agatha, wife of Samuel of Bulgaria → Agatha (wife of Samuel of Bulgaria) – Not a royal title; must be parenthesized. Or maybe use Agatha, Empress of Bulgaria instead. George Ho (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maria, wife of Ivan Vladislav → Maria (wife of Ivan Vladislav) – Must be parenthesize, like other articles. "wife of Ivan Vladislav" is not a royal title. Or use Maria, Empress of Bulgaria. George Ho (talk) 19:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ælfthryth, wife of Edgar → Aelfthryth (wife of Edgar) – Or Ælfthryth (wife of Edgar). "Wife of Edgar" is not a royal title, is it? If not, should be parenthesized. However, if "wife of Edgar" is not a suitable disambiguator, how about "Ælfthryth, Queen of England", "Aelfthryth, Queen of England" or something else? George Ho (talk) 19:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Assyrian folk/pop music → ? – I'm not entirely sure where this should end up, but the article is currently not compliant with WP:LOWERCASE. At present, the lowercase version of this title is a disambiguation page at Assyrian music. Suggestions are welcome. Izno (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dynastic order of chivalry → Dynastic order – WHile the above move was an improvement, after closer investigation, this article is not merely about dynastic orders of chivalry but rather about dynastic orders in general, including both dynastic orders of chivalry and orders of merit. On a further note, definition and overview of chivalric orders is more suitably collected at order of chivalry. Thus this article should most probably, in accordance also with the category Category:Dynastic orders, be renamed as proposed. See also article names in other languages, which well corresponds with this proposal. Chicbyaccident (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Khorasani Turkic language → Template: Khorasani Turkish language – There are over 225 results on Google if you search "Khorasani Turkish language". See here. While there are just 95 results about "Khorasani Turkic language", and most of those "95 results" does not mention about "Khorasani Turkic". Beshogur (talk) 18:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Mardyke → ? – Mardyke and The Mardyke should not name two different articles; nobody distinguishes the two concepts based on the presence or absence of an article. See WP:THE. *The Mardyke should redirect to Mardyke * Maybe Mardyke (disambiguation) should be moved to Mardyke * Maybe Mardyke should be moved to something like Mardyke (neighbourhood) ** I believe Mardyke, Cork should {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} to
MardykeMardyke (disambiguation) * The Mardyke should be moved; possible new names are as follows (arranged in my order of preference): *# Mardyke (multi-sport venue) *# Mardyke (UCC) *# Mardyke Arena *# Mardyke ** Note also that Mardyke (cricket ground) is different from the multi-sport venue. - jnestorius(talk) 15:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Siobhan → Siobhán – Article was moved despite majority opposing move. Restore to stable title WP:CONSISTENT with all other Category:Irish-language feminine given names, and consistent with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles. See also the definition of WP:RS sources as sources reliable for purpose: all name dictionaries and reference works able to display the síneadh fada do display the fada. ......Or alternatively as per previous discussion if this is no longer a name article then move to List of people called Siobhan. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Daimaou Kosaka → Pikotaro – The page for PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen) links his name under the redirect, so I think this would be an good move. Aaron's The Best (talk) 05:00, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Her Majesty's Civil Service → UK civil service – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Tony (talk) 04:21, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meitei language → Manipuri language – After a failed discussion and a subsequent move war with User:Ish ishwar, it is only best for this to be discussed with the opinion of other Wikipedians. Manipuri language is the WP:COMMONNAME (see Ngram as well as search for "Manipuri language" and search for "Meithei language"). The ISO 639-2 and -3 entry refers to it as "Manipuri" and it has a tag of "mni". Glottolog refers to the language as Manipuri with its Glottocode of "mani1292". It is the official name as per Manipur state, where it is predominantly spoken and where it is the only official language. The Eighth Schedule lists it as one of it's officially recognised regional languages. See here and here. User:Ish ishwar prefers to cite work from 1997 and completely ignores WP:COMMONNAME. User:Ish ishwar also conveniently uses WP:ETHNICGROUP but fails to see WP:NCL#Languages and their speakers. This is about what is the common name of the language is in English, which is most definitely Manipuri. What the Meitei people refer to themselves is irrelevant here. (The article for German language isn't located at Deutsch language.) Filpro (talk) 21:47, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saint Longinus → Longinus – Plain "Longinus" seems by far the most common name in English reliable sources. GScholar has almost 27,000 hits for the plain name,[21], 93 for "Saint Longinus).[22] GBooks shows 1050 for "Saint"[23] and 342,000 for Longinus.[24] Doug Weller talk 13:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – South Indian diaspora → South Indian Tamil diaspora – Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this. Winnan Tirunallur (talk) 06:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sarmed al-Samarrai → Lewis Alsamari – Although Sarmed al-Samarrai may be the actor's birth name, stage name Lewis Alsamari is the more common and recognizable name, given 10 results for Lewis Alsamari in Google News and 0 results for Sarmed al-Samarrai; a further 1,820 results in Google Books for Lewis Alsamari vs. 199 results for Sarmed al-Samarrai Ribbet32 (talk) 00:51, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ts–ch merger → Fronting (sound change) – Too general to be about specifics (ends up being a list of indiscriminate information), but current scope is too specific to be about the general topic of consonant fronting. We, however, do not have yet an article about fronting that would parallel e.g. Palatalization (sound change); the closest is the very high-level Relative articulation. Hence I propose a move, to be followed with extension by further material. Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 00:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – New Nationalism (Theodore Roosevelt) → New Nationalism – I don't see why it was moved the other way around in the first place. Most links to "New Nationalism" are currently about Roosvelt related topic (nearly 200 links), which indicates that this topic is more important and new topic should not take precedence. Or if the previous move really was somehow justified, then please do fix all links that currently refer to wrong article. PS. This new topic shouln't be defined as something which "rose in the mid-2010s" if some links to it are also from contexts that are about earlier times. 90.191.109.9 (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2016 (UTC))
- (Discuss) – Gurgaon → Gurugram – Per sources added to the article, Gurgaon has officially been known as Gurugram since September 27, 2016. ViperSnake151 Talk 15:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Colin Cassady → Big Cass – It's now been 8 months in the main roster, he's been gaining a lot of notability by the IWC or casual main roster fans. I think its now time. 2A02:C7D:3B50:2400:490F:8550:AA70:5D69 (talk) 12:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Leninsky Komsomol class of cargo ships → Leninsky Komsomol-class cargo ship – Per WP:NC-SHIP "class" is an adjective and requires a hyphen. WP:PLURAL. I didn't see a reason to keep the preposition "of." Mark Schierbecker (talk) 10:53, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Christensen (politician) → George Christensen – Move the politician as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and move existing subject at George Christensen (the deceased footballer) to George Christensen (footballer) or similar. Politican has significantly higher page views, even without the large spikes. The currently serving politician is the far more likely search term for the name, particularily given controversial statements and policy views in slim majority Australian government. -- Whats new?(talk) 03:33, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Texas–Permian Basin Falcons → UTPB Falcons – They use UTPB when referring to the teams of the school. Rodre112330 (talk) 21:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Texas–Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros → UTRGV Vaqueros – The official athletics website uses UTRGV when referring to the name of the teams. It is also on their jerseys. They use the same abbreviation style as UTSA and UTEP, not Texas-Arlington. AquilaXIII (talk) 20:09, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Typhoon Lionrock (2016) → Typhoon Lionrock – Obviously the primary topic. Jdcomix (talk) 14:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – J. J. Watt → J.J. Watt – MOS:INITIALS states "An initial is followed by a full stop (period) and a space unless an overwhelming majority of reliable sources do otherwise for that person." (My emphasis). It's abundantly clear just by looking at the reference section that nearly every source excludes a space between each J. This also includes NFL.com, ESPN, Pro-Football-Reference, and the Texans. Lizard (talk) 12:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Biladol Orb Awtani → Bilād al-ʻArab Awṭānī – The article title needs to be romanized correctly. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 11:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Tina (1992) → Hurricane Tina – Only one Pacific hurricane named Tina. 219.79.96.41 (talk) 11:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Virgil (1992) → Hurricane Virgil – Only one Pacific hurricane named Virgil. 219.79.96.41 (talk) 11:29, 24 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 19:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Winifred (1992) → Hurricane Winifred – Only one Pacific hurricane named Winifred. 219.79.96.41 (talk) 11:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 19:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed discussions
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup (sorted by template)