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Well, wait. Moscow considers itself the third Rome. Washington also considers itself the third (not fourth) Rome.
But they aren't.
There only ever was one Rome and one Roman state. At a point in history the Roman state lost control of the city. (Not 476, incidentally.) But it didn't cease to exist.
I don't believe in a meaningful difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. It's just a religious disagreement over clearly defined points of dogma.
Incidentally, if you ask the Patriarchs and the Pope - funnily enough, they'll agree with me on that last point.
Who the fuck was trying to lump CatComú in with the Unionists? It was YOU. YOU WERE LYING as you did that. I called you out, proved you a liar.
Truth:
unilateral independents: 47.6%
Unionists: 43.5%
CatComú: 7.5%
Unionists lost. Independendists beat unionists.
Independistas can form a majority government.
And that's the fracking truth.
And you will not be allowed to pretend otherwise.
Oh jeez, for one idiots can't come here lying that CatComú are Unionist. That's one. That would be progress. Because I am fracking tired of those lowlifes.
And the most important questions should always be decided by the people. Not their "representatives". By the people themselves. It leaves little room for argument.
A point is coming where nobody is going to ask Spain about anything.
Oh, jeez! Let them form a government then. Come on. Go ahead and form that government. I am waiting. Still waiting. You can't? Move over an allow the independistas. For one, because you can't and they CAN.
Nice long legs on Ines, but that's as far as she will go. Nice legs and no substance.
Well, hi there!
47.6% was the vote for a UNILATERAL declaration of Independence. Why do you persist in that lie of omission when you know full well I'll be here to point it out? What deficiency of character makes you do that?
Oh how wonderful! So you'll just accept that the Unionist vote was 43.5% to the unilateral Independence vote of 47.6%
So the unilateral independents just beat, in a democratic vote the Unionists.
And we are done here.
Any attempt from you to claim that the Unionists have a majority is a LIE.
Ah, we've come to where a liberal explains who a referendum is bad.
Just so you understand this, in only a matter of few years liberal globalist parties will be out of power everywhere and you'll be a fierce advocate of direct democracy as a means to advance some liberal globalist positions. And I will be here to support you on that. Just watch.
A referendum is the best way to decide the most important questions - and people tend to accept the result even when it goes against them.
Just let them vote in an agreed, internationally recognized referendum, free of beatings. Just do that.
Let it be in two years time. Let you keep 155 in force until then, but let them VOTE.
They'll accept that.
But you will not.
Because you can count. Despite all the lies. Count, you Spaniards can. And you know what the result would be.
Oh, it's more than that. Hungary when István was considering constitutional reform and becoming a modern (for the time state) was considering both Rome and Constantinople as the originator of the Hungarian crown. As far away as Muscovy states claimed the legal and religious blessings of the Roman empire. We are all children of Rome.
The debate is were there two Romes? Was Constantinople meaningfully different. Was there ever a Byzantine Empire.
I say there wasn't. I say the division of Rome is a propagandistic lie perpetrated by monks and priests to advance their chosen religious views. But in reality there was one Roman state founded in 753 BC and eventually destroyed in 1453 AD. And we are all of the same breed.
Because it IS a lie to claim that CatComú are Unionist. They are NOT.
"... who oppose the declaration of independence" is a lie of omission. Because you KNOW dammit that they do NOT oppose independence. What they oppose is a UNILATERAL declaration. And thus you lied again. Demonstrably.
You cannot not know these things. What you are doing is reprehensible and immoral.
ONLY TO a UNILATERAL declaration. They are NOT opposed to independence and they are NOT unionist!
The paid trolls of Madrid are trying to add the votes of Catalunya en Comú to the Unionist total.
As they are doing that they are lying. CatComú isn't in favour or against Independence. They are the ones who will not agree to a resolution without an internationally recognized referendum.
Madrid's trolls know this and lie.
The reality is for unilateral Independence:47.6%
Unionists: 43.5%
That is a knowable fact.
In fact unilateral independents: 47.6%
Unionists: 43.5%
CatComú: 7.5%
CatComú are not in favor or against independence they demand an internationally recognized referendum.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rfSpDjO1OBA
Those are not rioters. And the people beating them up might be wearing a uniform with "police" written on it, but what they are is criminal violent thugs.
I must assume that you know that CatComú isn't unionist and therefore I have no choice but call you a liar.
Shame on you.
I am an anti preacher.
And I don't believe that you are Catalan. I believe you are a Spaniard serving Rajoy's PP. And you are transparent.
The point where you become despicable is where you lie about who you are. If you spoke as a Spanish unionist, which you are, your point of view could be respected.
That's wrong. Catalans are an adult, civilized European nation. Give them a proper, legal, fair, internationally recognized referendum and they will live with the result no matter how close it is. And once they have made a collective decision they will pull in one direction.
I don't like belief systems. Especially proselytizing ones. Especially when the proselytizing is done with freedom bombs.