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DANCE WITH ME USA STOCK EXCHANGE WORKING HOURS AS I AM BLOCKED AND SHARE MY POSTS OR LINE WITH BROWSER VPN
ESPECIALY LAST 15 MINUTES TODAY AND NEXT WEEK
CNBC
MARKET WATCH
FB TWITTER
WALL STREET JOURNAL
FINANCIAL TIMES
AND OTHERS
YAHOO AND GOOGLE FINANCE
AOL FINANCE
IF SOMEBODY DISTURBS YOU FOR YOUR POSTS SHARE ON LINE YOUR REPLY
MANY INFLUENCE BETTER AND WELL
HOW FED ECB CLOSE SUCH FINANCIAL NEWS COMMENTS SECTIONS
READ ALL ON WFB PAGE BANRUN
FED HAS PUT A NET TO PREVENT A LOT OF SELLS TO PUT DOWN SHARES .
THAT IS WHY FACEBOOK REGISTRATION , CNBC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED AND MARKET WATCH COMMENTS ARE EDITED REAL TIME NEARLY .
THIS IS SEVERE MANIPULATION OF REAL TIME INFORMATION BY EU AND USA GOVERNMENTS AS NEWS LOOKS IN THIS CASE NOT TO BE OBJECTIVE AND ALSO FED AND ECB MANIPULATED.
SO FED AND ECB WANT TO FILTER NEGATIVE OPINIONS TO CHEAT YOU THERE are people that like the shares except you that is beauty contest game for creating irrational exuberance .
If now you buy shares , that colission of banks companies and fed will sell big part of 25 trillion share latter and you will lose some 25 % from curent level .
See shares turnover to know there is no exuberance but only few buy back their share as us banks weith deposits coming from eu bank run or usa own deposts . This is last atemp as the collision holds nearly all share to be so overestimated and eu is in banking crisis as mainly italy germany and uk send deposits abroad by some 40 bn that increases cost of refinancing so that u banks may lose some trillion value per month that you will pay or partly share holders to 8 % . require ecb to put rationing now.
The big eu banks for now shoul be expected to lose some 1 trillion next 10 years with deposits lost for 4 weeks up to now .
Bank runs are difficult to stop.
SEE IF THERE ARE NOT CHANELED SURPRISE INFLOW OF LIQUIDITY THAT LATTER WILL STOP INCREASE AND PUT SHARE SHARE DOWN.
- LOOK FOR JAPAN AND ASIA MONEY PRINTED
- LOOK FOR EU AND USA DEPOSITS THAT WILL DESTABILIZE BANS , FIRST EU THEN USA
- LOOK FOR BUYBACK THAT WWORKS ONLY FOR FEW WEEKS AS LATTER PEOPLE WILL SEE THEM AS LEMONS FROM SP BUYBACK AND SP 500 CHART
SEE THAT NEW YOUR STOCK INDEX DOES NOT INCREASE THAT MUCH AS SP 500 DJ SO THERE IS POSSIBLE MANIPULATION AS WELL . NYSE COMPOSITE DOES NOT HAVE RECORD YET.
AT SAME LEVEL FOR SOME 3 YEAR SOME 10 TRILLION BUY BACK FINANCE WITH BONDS IS LOSS OF 1.5 TRILLION WITH SOME 22 PE RATION THAT IS SOME 25 % OVEREVALUATION OVER HISTORICAL LEVELS SUPPOSEDLY SO CHECK THEM. SO RICH RISK EVERYTHING THIS TIME IN EU AND USA BEFORE CRISIS , MANIPULATE DATA AND ARTICLES AND STOP ONLINE FINANCE BLOGS OR FILTER SO SHARE FOR A MONTH INTENSIVELY .AS THEY MAY GET RID OF ME SAFE MY POSTS AND CONTINUE ALONE.
IF BANKS HAVE BETER INFORMATION THEY WILL PROFIT MORE AND BE MORE EFECTIVE THEN STOCK EXCHANGE AS THEY GUESS PROFITABLE PROJECTS BETTER. IF STOCK EXCHANGE IS MORE PROFITABLE AS PUBLIC OR INTERMEDIARIES SEGMENT HAVE BETER INFORMATION THEN THEY PREVAIL . THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM EXISTS ONLY FOR ANALYZING DATA TO QUALITY INFORMATION. BY OBSTRUCTING INFORMATION IN MAIN FINANCIAL EDITIONS THEY BECOME COMPLETELY DEPENDENT . THEY ARE NOT PLATFORMS BUT THE VOICE OF ECB AND FED . THIS IS INEFFICIENT COMAND ECONOMY. THE SHARE AND BOND INVESTMENT DISCOUNT THESE FACTS AND RUN IMEDIATELY ON FINANCIAL MARKETS.
SEE WHICH INTELLIGENCES IP ADDRESSES COVER MY POST ON PURPOSE.

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ECB FED STARTED TO CONTROLL NEARLY ALL INFORMATION 1
MASS DISTRIBUTE ONLINE THIS MONTH WITH VPN AS ALL BLOGS ARE STOPED OR CONTROLED. THE CANNOT ARREST EVERYBODY. ECB AND FED USE YOUR DEPOSITS TO CHEAT YOU FOR ASSET PRICES TO SELL THEM TO YOU EXPENSIVELY. ALSO TO STOP THE EU BANK RUN.
ECB TRIES TO HIDE A BANK RUN , FED TO SELL YOU SHARE ON HIGH PRICE BEFORE BUBBLE END. THEY CLOSED MAIN FORUMS THESE DAYS . ECB AND FED START TO MANIPULATE ALL DATA FROM ECONOMY TO HEALTH AND CLOSE MAIN ONLINE NEWS FORUMS OR INTRODUCE CONTROL OF INDEPENDENT ANALYSES AND OPINIOS. YOUR SHARES , BONDS , AND THEIR CURRENCIES ARE ENDANGERED AS CASH IS THE PREFERED ASSET. ONLINE MEDIA HAS SOME 20 OR 30 % REPUTATION THE REST IS FOR FORUMS. EU GOVERNMENTS AND FED FROM 10 % AS SURVEYS SHOW APROVAL GOES TO 5 % THESE DAYS. THEY ARE LIKE A BOXING PERSON IN LAST MINUTES OR STRENGHT AND HIT WITHOUT ANY DEFENCE IN THIS CASE OF REPUTATION OF INSTITUTIONS. KEEP YOU ASSETS FROM THEM .FOREGNERS AND MIDDLE CLASS TOOK THERE SAVINGS AND NOW DO NOT HOLD MUCH SHARES FROM SURVEYS . THE EU AND USA RICH BOUGHT SOME 10 TRILLION BUYBACK IN USAA AND NOW HOLS SOME 25 TRILLION TO SELL YOU ON VERY HIGH PRICES.
POLITICIANS ARE CONTROLED BY THEM AND UK , IT , FR , DE EXPECTED RESIGNED
AFTER ALSO FACTS I SHOWED FOR THEM AND QUESTIONS. EU BANKS , USA BANKS , APPLE , MICRO SOFT AND BLACK BERRY CLOSED OPERATIONG SYSTEMS FOR PHONES WENT IN TROUBLE AFTER MY QUESTIONS FOR BACK DOORS AND BAD LOANS. NOW THEY USE DEPOSITS AND BONDS TO PROP THE COMPANIES THAT LOOKS AS A LEMON THE RISKS WITH FAKE REPUTATION TO HIDE LOW QUALITY. I MOVED THE MARKET SOME 50 TIMES BY SOME 2 % WITH ANALYSES AND ECB AND FED NOW TRY TO STOP ALL CHANELL FOR ME AND YOU.
FEW WEEKS AGO FED AND ECB INVENTED A FALSIFIED CAN CER DIAGNOSIS FOR MY MOTHER WWITH THEIR INTELLIGENCE SUPPORT THEY CAN MANIPULATE ECONOMY, JOURNALISTS AND HELTH OR ANY DATA.
THAT CAUSED A BANK RUN IN EU BY SOME ESTIMATED 40 BN PER DAY LEAVING FOR USA FROM EU AND UK. EUR DECLINED FOR 2 WEEKS BY 0 . 5 % PER DAY AND THEN STOPED SUPPORTED BY ECB RESERVES. NOW IN USA BANKS OPENINIG HOURS EUR DECLINED SHARPLY AND TODAY ECB ALSO COVERD THIS DECLINE TO CONCEAL THAT THE CURRENCY IS LOW. IN COMPLETE PANIC ECB CLOSED ALL BLOGS BASICALLY TO CONTROLL ALL ANALYSES .THE MAIN SUFERING BANKS ARE IN IT , DE AND UK . ECB WANTS YOU TO COVER THE EU BANKS LOSS BY SOME 20 OR NOW 30 % OF YOUR DEPOSITS AS THEIR FRIENDS WILL DRAW FIRST . IF THEY DIVIDE EU IN COMING DAYS WITH THESE RECENT POLITICAL CHANGES I CONTRIBUTED TO INCLUDING BREXIT THEN THE EU DIRECTIVE WILL BE CANCELED YOU TO PAY LOSS NOT SHARE HOLDERS. IF THERE IS GOVERNMENT LOAN TO IT BANKS AND OTHERS DO NOT WANT TO BUY WITH THIS RISK THERE IS GOVERNMENT SUPPORT. THAT IS CLOSE TO BANKRUPTCY RATING AND BREAKS THE LAW . IF INNVENTING A CAN CER DIAGNOSIS ECB AND FED DO NOT REJECT , STOPING BLOGS YOU CAN EASILY VERIFY ALONE OR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES MAY CAUSE AVALANCHE EFFECT OF BANKS WITH EUR CURRENCY RESERVES THAT EXPECT DECLINE . YOU SAW THE RECENT RECORD LOW SEE IT BANKS STATUS , POLITICAL CRISIS IN IT , FR , DE ,UK , BREXIT
IT IS NOT NORMAL NEGATIVE NEWS IN EU TO IMPROVE CURRENCY AND SHARE AND BONDS AND POSITIVE IN USA AS GDP AND UNEMPLOYMENT TO REDUCE CURRENCY AND SHARE. THERE ARE CLEAR FED AND ECB INTERVENTIONS THEY WANT TO HIDE WITH MANIPULATION ON LINE MEDIA AND BLOGS FROM NOW. ECB AND FED WILL SOON MAKE A PUBLIC KILL IN MY FAMILY AND I MAY STOP TO WRITE . THIS IS WHY THE BLOGS I MENTION ARE STOPED TO REDUCE YOUR AND MY INFLUENCE AND THEN MANUPULATE ALL INFORMATION.
CENTRAL BANKS IN THE WORLD HOLD CURRENCY RESERVES SHOULD INVESTIGATE WHY FED AND ECB STOP BLOG ANALYSES AND CONTROL ARTICLES . YOUR ASSETS ARE IN RISK . YOU NEVER TRUST SOMEONE WHO HIDES THE TRUTH OF LOW QUALITY ASSETS .
SOVEREIGN BONDS OF USA AND ITALY SEEM UNSUSTAINABLE . INSTEAD OF ADMITING , THEY MAKE FINAL BLUFFS.
Q2 2016 IMF
EUR 1 . 5 TRILLIONS
POUNDS 0 . 35 TRILLIONS
USD 4 . 76 TRILLIONS
CNBC WITH SOME 50 MILLION VISITORS FOR 15 MINUTES PER VISIT THAT DISCUSS IN FORU WAS CLOSED THESE DAYS. MARKET WATCH STARTED TO DELETE IMEDIATELY BY HAND IN USA STOCK EXCHANGE WORKING HOURS. FACEBOOK REQUIRES VERIFICATION FOR ALL REGISTRATIONS AND DELETS A LOT OF RECENT REGISTRATIONS TO PREVENT SOME COMMENTS INCLUDING MSN WIT 1 . 5 READERS. CNN MONEY COMMENTS WAS RECENTLY CLOSED. WALL STREET JOURNAL BLOGS CHANGED TO BE DELETED IMEDIATELY AND FINANCIAL TIMES PUT AN ARTIFICIAL INTELIGENCE STRONG FILTER THAT BEARLY PUBLISHES. ALL MAIN JOURNALISTS ARE CONTROLLED TO PREVENT OTHER COMENTS THAT REVEAL THRUTH. THIS IS SEVERE MANIPULATION BY INTELLIGENCE. START CHECKING THE FACTS AS YOU HOLD A LOT OF THEIR ASSETS. THE SAME QUESTIONS FOR CONTROL OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION PUBLICLY TO IMF, WB, UN, ECB AND FED.
UNITE AND FIGH FOR YOUR RIGH NOW WHEN THEY ATTACK YOU AND ME IT WILL BE LATE SOON.

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ECB FED STARTED TO CONTROLL NEARLY ALL INFORMATION 2
it may be crime if ecb and fed asked for clossing the commentts or forceced them . Too many coinsidences with my mother invented by them can cer . A high probability in court is considered evidence.
my internet was physicaly stoped now so I am in a mall to write . To see if police will come again as twice lately for national security threat. Repost now .
LAST BLUFF OF ECB AND FED FOR CURRENCY , SHARE AND BOND PRICES. THEY PLAY WITH INCREASING AND COMPLETE RISK AS IN BOX ONE TRIES TO HIT WITHOUT ANY DEFENCE BEFORE FALLING OR IN LAST SECONDS IN THIS CASE WITHOUT ANY REPUTATION . ECB AND FED WITH THEIR CLOSE INVESTOR HAVE CLEAR INTENTION TO CHEAT YOU AS IN 2009 SHARES BUBBLE WITH SIMILAR BUYBACK. THEY WILL NEVER TELL YOU IT IS OVER BUT MANIPULATE DATA FROM ECONOMY TO HEALT AND SELL YOU USELESS SHARE. THE LAST STRONG RISK OF ECB AND FED IF MANIPULATION OF ONLINE MEDIA .AS SOME 20 , 30 % TRUST ARTICLES THE REST TRUST AND DISCUS IN FORUMS. FED AND USA GOVERNMENTS HAVE 5 % NOW , BEFORE 10 % FROM SURVEYS.
FED INTENDS TO CHEAT YOU TO BUY USA SHARE IN BUBBLE AS RICH AFTER 10 TRILLION BOUGHT SHARE NOW HOLD ALL OF THE 25 TRILLION CAPITALIZATION.
FED FOR MANIPULATING
TO STEAL YOR DEPOSITS
THERE IS BRUTAL ABUSE OF USA AND EU FINANCIAL SYSTEMS THAT INSTEATD TO GIVE PROFITS TO THE MOST INFORMRED , START TO MANIPULATE INFORMATION AND KILL THOSE ANALYSING PROPERLY . THIS IS THE END OF THE EU AND USA FINANCIAL SYSTEMS AS THEY INTEND BRUTALLY TO STEAL YOR MONEY. ONLY CASH SEEMS TO BE SECURE .BONDS , SHARES AND EU DEPOSITS ESPECAILLY MAY DEVALUATE BY SOME 20 % SOON ON YOUR ACCOUNT. IF SOMEBODY HIDES FROM ME INFORMATION , I WILL NEVER TRUST HIM .THEY WANT TO CONTROLL MEDIA AND BLOGS BY STOPING SOME OR FILTERING OR DELETING TO SIMULATE BEATY CONTEST WITH CHEAP ARTICLES OR TROLLS THAT WILL MISLEAD YOU THAT OTHER S WANT TO BUY THEIR SHARES. IT WILL BE LATE IF YOU BUY THEIR SHARES NOW. CHECK BLOBGS AND SITES I MENTION TO SEE MANIPULATION OF OPINION PEOPLE JOURNALISTS AND INTELLIGENCE AND START TO COMMENT YORSELF .THEY CANNOT AREST OR KILL EVERYBODY.
READ AND REPOST ALL MY WRITINGS VIA VPN NOW AS IN FEW DAY I WILL BE COMPLETELY STOPED BY MEDIAS WITH FORCE FOR THEM OR PHISICALLY . USA VPN FROM BROWSER TO DEFEND YOUR SAVINGS. SHARE ON INTERNET AND FB. ASK WHY THEY DO THAT NO EVERYTHIG CAN BE OCASIONAL OR WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE . THEY WILL BLUFF THESE DAYS TO INCREASE LIQUIDITY AND SHARE AND BOND PRICES UNTILL EVERY MEDIA IS CONTROLLED AND GET RID OF ME. INTELLIGENCES YOU MAY INVESTIGATE NOW AS WELL.
 ASK  DRAGI , JUNCKER , TRUMP , YE LLEN   WHY THEY INVENTED A CANCER DIAGNOSIS FOR MY MOTHER TO MAKE ME SILENT NOT TO INFLUENCE FINANCIAL MARKETS WITH ANALYSIS AS SOME 50 TIME SOME 2 OR MORE % BY NOW.  BY STOPING CNBC COMENTS AS MAIN FINANCIAL NEWS , WITH MOST TIME ON IT THEY INTEND TO MANIPULATE THE INFORMATION AS ALL DATA IN USA AND EU ARE MANIPULATED FROM ECONOMY TO HEALTH WITH INTELLIGENCE HELP.  START TO INVESTIGATE. THESE EVENTS WILL LOSE THE TRUST IN COMPLETE USA AND EU FINANCIAL SYSTEM .THEY ARE ALSO IN FRONT OF CIVIL WAR AND AIM TO STEAL ENOUGH MONEY TO STOP IT. THERE IS SOME 5 % SUPPORT FOR FED AND ECB IS WITH BANK RUN TO COVER .THESE IS A CRISIS WITHOUT PRECEDENT IN EU AND USA HISTORY.  THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM COLLAPSES AND THERE IS BRUTAL CONTROL THAT STOPS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND CAPITAL. ECB ,FED AND USA AND EU GOVERNMENTS WILL DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET RID OF ME PHYSICALLY OR MY RELATIVES  TO CHEAT YOU ALONE. 
THE END OF INTELLIGENCE MANIPULATING MEDIA AND INFORMATION TURNINIG EU AND USA INTO A COMMAND ECONOMY IS NEAR
ALL DATA YOU SEE ARE WRONG , SEE DSGE MODELS THAT SHOW THERE IS NO WAY TO ACHIEVE GROWTH , SEE THE COUNTRIES AROUND USA .ASIA IS GAINING COMPETITIVENESS.
WB ,IMF ALL COVER THIS FALSIFIED AND FORE BASED SYSTEM.  NOBODY WILL BUY THERE SHARES AND BONDS , OR SAFE BANKS WIT FORCE OR ONLY MANIPULATED INFORMATION PROVIDED WITH NO BLOGS. HAVE YOU NOTICED FB , MARKET WATCH RESTRICTIONS AS WELL . WALL STREET JOURNAL ALSO CHANGED BLOGS ON PURPOSE FT PUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FILTER THAT CANNOT BE PASSED THROUGH .
THIS IS FULL CONTROLL OF INFORMATION WITH INTENTION
ECB TO STEAL YOUR DEPOSITS, THE FUND FOR EU SOVEREIGN BONDS
FED WANTS A BUBBLE TO SELL YOU SOME 25 TRILLION STRONGLY OVER EVALUATED SHARES THE RICH BOUGHT WITH 10 TRILLION BUYBACK THAT INCREASED THE PRICE IRRATIONALLY AND THEN TO ANNOUNCE THE REAL DATA TO YOU . MANY POLITICIANS IN FED ECB ARE CONTROLLED AS UK , DE - EXPECTED , IT PREMIED THAT RESIGNED WHEN REVEALED WITH MY HELP , INCLUDING BREXIT .ECB AND FED HEADS WANT TO CHEAT YOU AND THEN RUN AWAY AS EC HEAD AS WELL . FOLLOW THEM. DO YOU THINK TRUMP IS A NORMAL ECONOMIST AND PRESIDENT OR RISKY AND AUTHORATIVE.

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WHY CNBC COM MENTS ARE STOPPED FROM TODAY AND WHO IS AFRAID OF PEOPLE OPINION THE AI FILTERS TO BE SO STRINGENT AND OTHER RULES TO BE ON.FED INTENDS TO ACHIEVE BUBBLE WITH MANIPULATION OF OPINIONS THAT IS OBVIOUSECB TO STOP BANK RUN AND STEAL YOUR FUND FOR SOVEREIGN BONDS. WITH THESE BANKS 20 % OF YOUR DEPOSITS MAY BE TAKEN IF THERE IS NO RATIONING NOW.ITALY BAIL OUT IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO DIRECTIVE , IT SIGNALS ALL LOSSES WILL BE PAID BY TAXPAYERS. ANY WAY WITH THIS DEBT ITALY CANNOT GUARANTEE THE CITIZENS DEPOSITS BELLOW 100 K BUT IS IN SOVEREIGN CRISIS WITH UNSUSTAINABLE YIELDS POSSIBLY. THERE IS NO WAY WITHOUT CRISIS WITH THEIR INFLATION AND GROWTH .
FRANCE AND ITALY ARE IN FRONT OF CIVIL WAR AND ITALY , FRANCE AND UK PREMIERS WERE CHANGED FOR THIS REASON. GERMANY IS ALSO READY . USA CHOSE A MALE THAT IS RISKY AND AGGRESSIVE TO LEAD CIVIL WAR IN COMING CATASTROPHE DUE TO HIGH USA SPENDINGS. SEE 2017 , 8 BUDGET DEFICIT , IT IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH FOR GROWTH AND BUBBLE THEY TRY TO SUSTAIN SO YOUR OPINION IS FILTERED.FOLLOW MY FAMILY THESE DAYS FROM INTELLIGENCES. READ ALL NOW FB PAGE BANRUN
G E 0 R G 1 - C H H 1 N K 0 VASK EVERYONE PUBLICLY AND INDIVIDUALY DR AGI , JUN C K ER , AND DE , UK , , IT , FR , SP , CA GOVERNMENTS IF THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY OR REJECT THE EU DIRECTIVE THAT SOME 8 % OF ASSETS OR LIABILITIES WILL BE COVERED BY BANKS SHARE OWNERS BEFORE BAIL OUT. THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH TO COVER CUREN LOSS OF BANS EXPECTED .LOOK YOU LEADERS TO ANSWER CLEARLY AND IN DETAILS NOW. THE IDEA IS THAT CAPITAL WILL BE RISK AVERSE , NOT YOU TO PAY FOR THEM BUYING SHARE LATELY WITH YOUR DEPOSITS THAT DECLINE AND POSTPONING DEPOSIT RATIONING THAT WILL COST A LOT FOR THE CAPITAL TRANSFERED ABROAD TO BE SUBSTITUTED. YOU KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT AND CENTRAL BANKER ANSWER , IF IT IS NOT CLEAR THEN THEY INTEND TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. THIS EC DIRECTIVE IS PART OF YOUR LEGISLATION . PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF THIS LOSS AND MOVE DEPOSITS ABROAD INTENSIVELY , REACT NOW. IS THERE ON LINE BANK RUN LAST THREE WEEKS AT LEAST ?
IF TOMORROW ECB AND FED DECIDE TO INJURE MY MOTHER ON OPERATION , THEN LIKE IN THE STICK STORY FOR CREATING B G IN WHICH ONE OR TWO STICKS CAN BE BROKEN BUT MANY NOT SELL ALL OVERPRICED ASSETS TO EU AND USA WITH RATIO OVER HISTORIC LEVEL. THINK IF THEIR CURENCY RESERVES ARE SECURE OR THEY WILL BREAK YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU TRY TO RETUN THEM . THINK IF EU BANKS ARE WITH CORRECT CREDIT RATING AND SECURE FOR YOUR DEPOSITS ENOUGH. TO SAFE THE DAY AT END NOV FED INCREASED OPEN MARKET OPERATIONS TO SOME 210 BN AS 60 IS NORMAL IF THEY INTEND TO KILL MY MOTHER THESE DAYS WITH INVENTED CAN CER DIAGNOSIS OR INJUR WITH BACK OPERATION IN HOSPITAL FOR NEURAL IMPLANTS FROM WEB PAGE ? THEY ALSO TRY TO COLLECT EVIDENCE FROM 2009 B N B BANK FOR 2009 CRISIS TO ANNOUNCE ME FOR MENTALLY ILL AND CLOSE ME NOT TO COMMENT THEM , SO THAT THEY WILL ROB YOU STOP MY MOTHER FALSIFIED BACK OPERATION AND CHEMO THERAPY NOW
THE HOSPITAL SHOULD BE IN C I TY - C L I N I N C S 0 F 1 A AND ST - I V A N – R I L S K I . READ MORE AT URGENT 3 HERE ATTACHED. FIND AND READ ALL MY POSTS , INCLUDING VERY OLD ONES FOR IMPORTANT DETAILS IF INTERESTED. ASK THEM QUESTIONS
READ ALL NOW FB PAGE BANRUN
HTTPS://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/BANRUN-1218809514879857/

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ASK AND CHECK IF ASIA CENTRAL BANKS ADD MONEY IN USA EU FOR SURPRISE EFFECT AGAIN
OR EU AND USA BANK DEPOSITS ARE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE 
 TO AVOID THE 
EU BANKING CRISIS 
TRY FOR LAST TIME TO ACHIEVE BUBBLE IN USA , THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE WHEN SHARE ARE NOT BOUGHT FROM ABROAD AND BY MIDDLE CLASS TO BE CHEATED
WITH YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO MY QUESTIONS SO FAR THE UK , ITALY AND FRANCE PREMIERS RESIGNED. ,PROBABLY NEXT IS THE GERMAN PREMIER. SO STILL READ AND ASK A LOT. THEY SHOWED LOW ECONOMIC CULTURE AND SEVERE DIS RESPECT OF HUMAN RIGHTS. HUMILIATION OF POOR IN YOUR COUNTRIES AND OTHERS WAS STRONG. BG GOVERNMENT AS WELL .
BE CAREFUL NOT TO BE MANIPULATED BY POLITICIANS FOR STEALING YOUR MEANS TO AVOID CIVIL WAR. ITALY CHOSES BETWEEN CIVIL WAR AND BANKING CRISIS OR 50 OR 20 % GDP DECLINE PROBABLY WITH REFERENDUM MANIPULATION.
CAREFULLY ITALY  ELECTIONS TONIGHT NOT TO BE MANIPULATED TO RETAIN THE THE BANKING SYSTEM MIRACULOUSLY WITHOUT SUPPORT AND RATIONING FOR STRONG RISK OF CIVIL WAR IN EU AND USA  SEE HOW TRUMP ELECTION TO TAKE HUGE RISK FOR USA WITH STRONG GOVERNMENT BORROWING ON WHICH HE IS GOING TO DEFAULT AFFECTED SOVEREGN BONDS. SEE HOW AU AGAIN TRIES TO KEEP EU AND MAY POSTPONES BREXIT WITH CAREFUL CHEATING AS THOGH SHE IS FOR IT BUT OTHERWISE STRIVING FOR EU. SO AGAIN EU AND USA WILL TRY TO SUPPORT THE SHARE BUBBLE AS ONLY USA RICH HOLD 25 TRILLIONS. THEY NEED STRONG DEFICITS ON YOUR ACCOUNT AND EU TO STAY ALIVE FOR A WHILE AND CHEAT DATA . ALSO THEY DO NOT WANT STATE SUPPORT FOR EU BANKS AS ITALY OR ECB LOANS THROUGH REPOS AS THIS IS CLOSE TO SPECULATIVE DEFININTION. DEPOSITS ARE LEAVING EU , ECB SHOULD NOT HAVE A LOT CURRENCY RESERVES. EUR IS GOING FOR RECORD LOW , THERE IS AVALANCHE EFECT AS WELL. PEOPLE ARE ON THE STREETS IN ITALY , FRANCE , UK , GERMANY ON PROTESTS AND SEARCHING CIVIL WAR IN GOOGLE . THEY WILL NOT BUY SHARE OR GOVERNMENT BONDS WITH 300 USD AVAILABLE PER PERSON. THEY WANT ELECTIONS NOT TO BE MANIPULATED AND CIVIL WAR OTHERWISE. ECB MAY STEAL THE TRILLION FUND FOR PROPING EU SOVEREIGN DEBTS AND EU DEPOSITS FOR 20 % IF IT REMAINS NOW. THE COMING RECESSION MAY BE VERY DEEP AND LONG IN THIS CASE AS USA AND EU TRY TO COMPLETELY ROB THEIR CITIZENS .STOP FAKED BY FED ECB CAN CER DAIGNOSIS OF MY MOTHER AND CHEMO THERAPY TO MAKE ME SILENT. OBSERVE MY CASE AND FAMILY NEXT MONTHS.
READ ALL NOW FB PAGE BANRUN
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ECB AND FED LAST BLUFFS
IF OTHER BANKS DO NOT SUPPORT ONE , THEN GOVERNMENT LOANS ARE SUPPORT AND THIS IS ILLEGAL BY EU DIRECTIVE APPROVER AS 8 % HAVE TO BE COVERED BY SHARE HOLDERS
CHECK IF ECB AND FED DO NOT USE DEPOSITS TO BUY SHARES FOR BLUFFING THE BANKING CRISIS IN ITALY DOES NOT AFFECT THEM , THERE IS NO BANK RUN IN EUR AS THEY PROP THE SHARE DEMAND
SEE HOW EUR DECLINED SEVERAL TIMES A LOT IN LAST 2 WEEKS WEEKS AS AMERICAN BANKS OPEN . THERE IS OBVIOUS AND LAZY SUPPORT BY ECB FOR THE RECENTLY REACHED RECORD LOW EUR , WHILE EU IS IN MORE SEVERE CURRENCY , BANKING RUN , BEAR MARKET , REAL AND SOCIAL CRISIS
DATA ARE VERY LIKELY CHEATED ,CHECK ALSO THAT THERE IS NO SUPPORT FROM FED OR AGENTS TO LEND CURRENCY RESERVES. OTHER AGENT ARE WITH SHORT POSITION ON EU AND ITALY ASSETS IN PARTICULAR.
FED LOST TRUST AND SHOULD BE WITH 5 % SUPPORT , CHECK IF THIS YEAR CNBC WILL GIVE GRADE TO THE CHAIRWOMAN AFTER THAT C + LAST YEAR , SEE IF DEPOSITS ARE USED TO BUY SHARE THAT IS HUGE RISK AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH M0 IN USA IS DEPOSIT MULTIPLICATION BROKEN . FED CARES MOSTLY FOR SHARE PRICES. ALL SUPER POSITIVE DATA PUT MARKETS DOWN WHICH MEANS INVESTORS THINK THEY ARE A LEMON , CHECK NOBEL AKERLOF ARTICLE FOR BRAND PRICE DIFFERENCE AND IMPLICATIONS
ECB LOST TRUST AS THEY TRIED TO PUT EX B G COMMISSIONER CLOSE TO EU PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS AND THAT SOME ONE TRILLION FUND PROPPING SOVEREIGN BONDS AND SOVEREIGN BONDS PRICES WENT DOWN. ECB SCARED DEPOSITORS AS CURRENT BANK PROFITABILITY IS NEGATIVE AND SOME DEPOSITORS MAY PAY 20 % OF THEIR DEPOSITS AS ECB FRIENDS RUN FIRST WITH FULL DEPOSITS THAT IS ALSO A TRILLION. IF ECB DOES NOT STOP DEPOSITS LEAVING ABROAD , THE COST FOR REFINANCING WITH EXPENSIVE BONDS IS THE VOLUME OF BONDS INITIALLY FOR NOW SOME TRILLION SUPPOSED. WHAT WILL BECOME THE VALUE OF EU BANKS , IS ECB RESPONSIBLE TO EU CITIZENS AT ALL ?
ASK THEM NOW , NOT TO CHEAT YOU EVERYTHING IS OK ON SOME 20 - 50 BN PER DAY - SEE EUR AT USA BANK OPENING LAST DAYS
ECB WILL ACCEPT THE BANKS TO BORROW SOMEHOW STRANGE AND UNNECESSARY COMPLICATED TOMORROW WITH REPOS , TO BE HIDDEN GOVERNMENT SUPPORT
IF THE ITALIAN BANK IS BAILED OUT FROM GOVERNMENT ALL EU BANKS WILL BE. SO HOW THE EU COUNTRIES WILL GUARANTEE YOUR UNDER 100 K DEPOSITS AS THEY CANNOT MANGE THEIR SOVEREIGN DEBT NOW AND GROWTH STOPS FOR SOME 10 AND OVER YEARS ANS JAPAN FOR 20 WITH FREE LOANS INCREASING TO OVER 200 % OF GDP. ASK ECB AND REMAINING EU GOVERNMENTS IF THERE IS PLAN FOR

YoungWeber

This article smacks of Western propaganda; or at the least, a complete lack of cultural understanding. The authors seem completely unaware, or to discount, the Chinese experience of "mass participation" in government was the chaos and destruction of the Cultural Revolution. While the Cultural Revolution might have started for perfectly valid reasons; it spun out of control with any chump and friends forming their own Red Guard units and attacking government officials.

The experience of the Cultural Revolution has left the Chinese people and government very wary of "instability" and "mass participation". Remember, Xi's own father was jailed during the Cultural Revolution and he was sent to the countryside; he doesn't want to hear any nonsense about "mass participation".

All that is aside from the fact that it is precisely China's middle class that have the most to loose from instability and are the most supportive of the CCP. China has come a long way in just 25 years; the legitimacy of the CCP (in true Confucian fashion) rest on its ability to deliver the functions of government (order, paved roads, electricity, etc); not on abstract "freedom".

The West's hope the Chinese will become a "liberal democracy" is vain and baseless.

guest-snmojen in reply to YoungWeber

What propaganda? What lack of cultural understanding?

Many nefarious regimes like to paint themselves as
different, complex, and unique. One can slide through
the B.S. with the truth. The PRC, like other substandard societies,
has upward mobility predicated on political connections.
In addition, an informal caste system keeps many of its minorities
down on the food chain. An incompetent elite keeps
itself in power by promoting "Yes men" and the educated
that can be kept under foot by them.

The only thing that the PRC has done above its nefarious
regime peers has been a semblance of general upward mobility
by providing its masses with jobs. A keep quiet approach that
differs from the PRC peers. They either under employ or ostracize their masses.

Unlike the PRC, Taiwan did not experienced a Great Leap Forward
and Cultural Revolution famines. For that matter, neither has it
experienced a Henan famine either. Famine on purpose has no
valid reasons.

Taiwan has a higher GDP per capita than the PRC, and in many
years has routinely beat many top tier nations on PISA scores.
Taiwan is the only country in the world where a Chinese speaking Democracy exists. Proof that Democracy and capitalism works
in a Chinese speaking country.

YoungWeber in reply to guest-snmojen

China is a substandard nation? The leadership of the CCP has brought China to the brink of overtaking the West as the world's leading civilization; far from being substandard. The CCP has left more people out of poverty than any other regime in history; while "connection" play a part in any society; China is more meritocratic than any Western nation. Your claims a simple Western liberal rabbling and sour grapes at Chinese success; please demonstrate how aping the West has worked wonders for India!

Although the CCP is borrowing a lot from KMT's Taiwan playbook (a tightly coordinated debt based development program) it absurd to compare Taiwan, populated by elite exiles from the mainland, to the rest of China.

Taiwan was developed under a martial law dictatorship until 1986 and the ruling party of that dictatorship, the KMT, remain a major force in Taiwanese politics. Taiwan's economic performance post-democracy has been erratic at best.

The CCP does not need your support or understanding; they have a program of national aggrandizement that has already done wonders for their nation and will continue to do so. The people of the world will be able to compare the hallow rhetoric of Western "universal values" with their real world material outcome and judge what system they prefer; as they already are in the gross dichotomy between democratic India and authoritarian China.

canabana in reply to guest-snmojen

Taiwan has more phone scam artists per capita than not just Mainland China, but every country in the world.
I would say it is an amazing achievement for only 23 million people.
Must be the product of Taiwanese style Demobcrazy.

Bismarx777 in reply to canabana

Its even more depressing that Mainland Chinese are involved in it and are learning from the Taiwanese.. Its not something to boast about. Both countries do it.

Caning is the only, bring back the cane to HK.

Bismarx777 in reply to YoungWeber

The same usual prattle. The CPC isn't copying the KMT, if it was most of our Chinese posters would be doing national service, but they aren't. The martial law dictatorship was never a permanent solution,that was the thinking from the very start.

From a Singaporean perspective such a system is deeply flawed for a country like China, not because of the human rights or curtailment of human freedoms, but because there are far easier ways to control people than introducing said system. Caning is much cheaper and more effective, and even some "democracies" in the Caribbean still use caning. It just has to be used more liberally and for all crimes including white collar crimes.

You seem to forget that the West's surveillance and credit reporting system are far more comprehensive than what China has today. What China wants to do is combined the best aspects of particular Western countries, US Credit rating system with UK Surveillance state.

If you use that big fat brain of yours, you will realize China just isn't ready. There are too many people using cash, most businessmen in China borrow from the shadow banking system, 45% of the population is still rural. At the end I doubt they will implement it.

The CPC can't even control its own CPC members. Some have connection with organized crime, some are involved in drug dealing, prostitution etc.

The vast majority of the comments here including yours is to defend China at all cost against the Economist, without using your brain of yours.

I think its a horrible system, largely because it will be in the hands of corrupt and often ill educated bureaucrats. Your average Chinese bureaucrats make $300-400 a month in official salary. The room for kickbacks in such a system is enormous. And hackers will have a field day blackmailing people.

If Xi Jinping told you that sh*t is good to eat would defend him, you would because if the Economist said he was crazy, you would defend Xi Jinping. This system is sh*t, but most of the people here want to save face, so they will defend it even if the system is deeply flawed.

It would be much easier just to job off people's hands like they do in Saudi Arabia.

ý@ýýýýH in reply to Bismarx777

[Bismarx777
in reply to YoungWeber
...
If Xi Jinping told you that sh*t is good to eat would defend him, you would because if the Economist said he was crazy, you would defend Xi Jinping. This system is sh*t, but most of the people here want to save face, so they will defend it even if the system is deeply flawed.
.
It would be much easier just to job off people's hands like they do in Saudi Arabia.]
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And if the Chinese government does anything that is good for China and the Chinese, Bis will attack it. As I have said N times already, China conducted its reforms in order to improve the lot of the Chinese people. The reforms were/are NOT done for the purpose of showing India off in poor light.
.
Think about that and you might form a different opinion about China and the Chinese.
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Devil's

amalesh

The situation in India is still worse govt tracks railway tickets for refund, corrupt state police check your personnel belongings in cars and vehicles and seize belongings without receipt and people do not protest as they will wait for chance to grab the loot later.

AdityaMookerjee

I feel that if people in a democracy didn't try to undermine what the government or others were doing then that nation would progress more than what is imaginable. In India, the opposition try to undermine the government so that people elect them to power in the next elections. I don't think democracies help their own progress but that they undermine it. I can't say how democracy functions elsewhere other than India.

daley1686

The comparison with credit scores is probably relevant. They are widely and effectively used in developed economies to guide business decisions. Why would a social credit system that included criminal, employment, professional, educational, social and personal information be objectionable, so long as the criteria for judgments are clear and opportunities are available? Asymmetric information is always a problem in social interactions. A social credit system would help create a common fund that all could draw upon.

Shahidler

Stop glorifying western democracy please! Haven't we in the non-western world suffered enough of your democratic crusade?

XDRTQnBNFA in reply to Shahidler

You are free to read publications from totalitarian regimes, there are plenty , and all of them publish anti democracy rhetoric, which should be right up your alley. Nobody is coercing you to read this. Its called freedom. Please remember to shut the door on your way out.

grandaxe

Congratulations to all Rich Westerners for Propping up EVIL all these years, and now we see something new in Human History. Digital Control
You seem to think the Chinese are less evil than the former Soviet Union.
Now please prop up India.
You have no choice.

Bismarx777

This is how regime collapse, overreach. Most of the posters here are 1) Overseas Chinese 2) Hong Kong Chinese. Many of them have never experienced Third World bureaucracies, and China is still a Third World country. China is a country that can't even do the following

1) Crack down on tax evasion. Tax evasion is still rife in China, because the tax system is crap. Reform the tax system first

http://www.lnpchina.com/single-post/2016/1/28/Tax-Evasion-in-China-The-T...

2) Crack down on shadow banking. How can you coerce people to do X if you limit their ability to borrow money in official banks
3) Large sections of the Chinese economy is still cash based.
4) A good 20-25% of the work force consist of people who live in the fringes of the economy (ie migrant worker and people entrepreneurs who deal in cash). How are you going to control them, and these are the people that the CPC wants to control the most.
5) The issue of corruption.

What China wants to do is take social control systems from a variety of countries and combine them. Take America's credit score, UK surveillance state and combine them into one system.

To implement such a system, China has to plug the holes first, or its just going to be a waste of money. Say if I am entrepreneur who exports stuff to foreign countries. I am jerk, and as a result the government stops me from opening a bank account. I just get a friend to open one or use a brokerage service in HK to open one for me and use couriers to transport the money back to China. All you do is drive the people you want to monitor the most, more underground.

The natural response of most of the pro-Chinese posters here is to defend China. Why they do this? Because many of them don't actually live in China, and aren't affected by it personally. They aren't going pay for it. They defend China, because any negativity about China will impact their sheltered lives in the West. They don't give a crap whether the thing actually is going to work or the inconveniences it will cause people.

Implementing something like this is putting the cart before the horse. The CPC can't even control its own members on how to behave properly, let alone the whole country.

Want to control people, don't over complicate things. When you want to make children behave, do you implement a social scoring system? No. You can the little brat until he behaves. Liberal use of caning will make people behave much more quickly than a stupid social score.

ilcn in reply to Bismarx777

No one likes an "overreach" of the Chinese government, especially if it benefits a few at the expense of many. Please don't by cynical by saying that "The natural response of most of the pro-Chinese posters here is to defend China. Why they do this? Because many of them don't actually live in China, and aren't affected by it personally. They aren't going pay for it. They defend China, because any negativity about China will impact their sheltered lives in the West." Defending China does not mean endorsing every piece of action of the government. At the end of day, posters here just provide various perspectives.

Bismarx777 in reply to ilcn

They aren't offering any opinion except that what ever China does is brilliant. No one is saying that the system is stupid, and China would be better off doing what Saudi Arabia does (ie chopping off people's hands). Its kind of disappointing that the people aren't offering alternatives.

ý@ýýýýH in reply to ilcn

ý@ýýýýH

in reply to Bismarx777

3 mins ago

[Bismarx777
in reply to YoungWeber
...
If Xi Jinping told you that sh*t is good to eat would defend him, you would because if the Economist said he was crazy, you would defend Xi Jinping. This system is sh*t, but most of the people here want to save face, so they will defend it even if the system is deeply flawed.
.
It would be much easier just to job off people's hands like they do in Saudi Arabia.]
.
And if the Chinese government does anything that is good for China and the Chinese, Bis will attack it. As I have said N times already, China conducted its reforms in order to improve the lot of the Chinese people. The reforms were/are NOT done for the purpose of showing India off in poor light.
.
Think about that and you might form a different opinion about China and the Chinese.
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guest-ajlanlns

The author has been biased and partial if he is curious and worry about digital dictatorship in china and the citizens freedom then what about Western nations, even in situation when Clinton emails are not secure how could be normal citizens are secure even it is obvious that Facebook and Google has been utilized for Western spy agencies. Author should have disclosed these facts

SmithersEdie

"But you can be fairly sure that the West will have rules—especially where the state is involved."

I doubt it. The track record to date suggests otherwise.

sikko6

The world is ruled by CIA. CIA frames news media. What you read on your news papers are framed by CIA. CIA brainwashes US president with daily intelligence briefings. Then US president misinforms the world public. This is the world we are living. Chinese must be thankful for not reading CIA controlled news media. But Chinese will never be able to get away from communist dictatorship.

Bismarx777

This is peanuts. You want to really control people you just nationalize the whole economy, institutes corporal punishment and make people do national service. A social score will never substitute for a good hard caning. China always trying to find the cheap way out.

Bismarx777 in reply to EdgyInChina

Did Mao Zedong make people do national service? No. Was corporal punishment a legal form of punishment in the PRC? Never has been, it was made illegal in 1911.

National Service is necessary to instill discipline. If the PRC made all Chinese nationals do national service including those living abroad regardless of citizenship status as long as they were born in China/Hong Kong, I guarantee most people would try ever means possible not to do it.

Singapore does all of the above, they don't take the cheap wy out.

EdgyInChina in reply to Bismarx777

First of all, you don't know very much about China and Chinese history. You cite a law passed in 1911, yet Mao ZeDong repealed all previous laws passed by previous 'non-Communist' governments when he took power in 1950.
National Service was a definite part of Mao's movements, particularly during the 'Great Leap Forward', although they had no 'sway or authority' over those living abroad.
But national service was very much a part of Mao's administration. Been there - done that...

Bismarx777 in reply to EdgyInChina

In 1911 laws involving corporal punishment and that includes the hacking of limbs was banned in China. And the CPC uphold those laws when they came to power in 1949. CPC didn't change all laws instituted between 1911-1949, for the most part they add more laws, not reduce them.

As for national service. China has never had universal male conscription since before the Tang Dynasty even during the Maoist period. I am talking about 2 years full time military service, where you are assign to the military and do a real job. That is what they do in Singapore.

In China at best under Mao they formed some village militia parade around the town, dig some ditches and that is about it. That is not real national service, where you are trained to operate weapons, train in a role. Even the PVA (People's Volunteer Army) they sent to fight in Korea was made mostly of professionals (ie WW2 veterans, mostly former KMT soldiers)

A country with a real national service would actually send those conscripts to war. The Chinese government would never do that, because the system would collapse if they conscript people to fight foreign wars.

Unlike most of the people here I don't claim I know Chinese history, even though the people who boast about knowing Chinese history never studied Asian/Chinese history at the university level. Have you? I have. What you study in high school is very different then what you study in High School.

guest-ajinswll

Whenever someone who want to critique the policies issued or practiced in China, just think one more second that there are more than 1.4 billion people in China. There is no need to emphasize what the meaning of the population. What would happen if you assume that there were more than 1 billion people live in the state?
The west would go down if the main media still hold the prejudice and think all of the negative sides of Chinese. One more question, is this article is one of the results of western critical thinking education during the previous years?

ilcn

As a Chinese, I don't fully agree with all the critiques raised by this article. There is a merit of credit score, which can provide incentives for good behaviors.

However, I agree with the deep concern expressed about the possibilitty of bigger intrusion into private lives of Chinese, and stronger oppression of dissensents. The complication of China's society and economy may need a more informed debate rather than a group of officials making decisions. Just like a comment raised by another reader, China should not only think of the government better "ruling" its citizens, but also recognize the competing interests, and the need to have an institution to resolve conflicts.

The sentiment of Chinese readers to this article is an alert to TE that it's perspective may not reflect how Chinese see themselves. I would not dismiss those as Wu Mao whose only purpose are to defend the Chinese government. Chinese are proud of our long history and distinct culture compared with the west. The society's interests can go beyond individuals' without creating too much controversy, which can be unimaginable in the West. An example of this is the public ownership of land and urban construction in the interest of development but against the willingness of residents. TE should recognize more such a difference rather than picture China as one full of all types of evil dealings.

There is a long way for China to modernize, and few regard the current system as perfect. But it at least brings prosperity to hundred of millions of people. The West and Chinese people should join together to secure the propsperity of the world, with China an increasingly important part of it.

guest-snmojen in reply to ilcn

You said:

"There is a merit of credit score, which can provide
incentives for good behaviors."

Really? That did not work well for China did it? The Ming, Tang
and other Dynasties all fell because corruption at the top went
unchecked. If you don't believe it, study your own country's
history.

"There is a long way for China to modernize."

How many more thousands of years would that take?

The PRC was only able to prosper thanks to the USA.
It would have never accomplish a jump to 2nd largest
global economy without it. Yet, the PRC look down on
the U.S. as though the PRC was all along entitled to the
highest plateau in the global food chain. The way that
Hollywood has to being made to kow tow to the PRC
global ambitions in censorship to befit PRC internal
interests while at the same time spreading that censorship
dome outside its borders. A total cultural domination the
likes that the world has not seen. The same applies to the
Internet which the PRC wants to wrestle control away from
the West. The freedoms we enjoy today in searching information
not deemed proper by the PRC will disappear tomorrow. Just as
the masses in the PRC did not know what happened in Tiananmen
Square, Wenzhou high speed train, Sichuan earthquake shoddily
built schools, and so much more. The same will happen to future
events where the truth will be censored from Beijing.

Now for controversy, take a look at My War (2016) a PRC movie
that tells a bald faced lie concerning the Korean War. In the
opening credits, it states that it is a historically based movie
on real life events. In the movie itself, the viewer is presented
with a group of PLA soldiers fighting for the "Homeland" against
the lowest scums on earth (i.e. Americans) that are fighting
brave "Patriots" defending the "Homeland." Never mind that
North Korea was never part of the PRC, and that North Korea
was established by the Soviets and not the PRC. The movie
is just pure brain wash and inaccurate as hell. Recall that the
UN sent many nations there to stop the North Koreans from
their nefarious aggression on the South Koreans. The PRC
itself was never in danger other than its massive force attempting
to push the UN out of the Korean Peninsula.

The world is better off with the United States as the main
power to keep an erratic world in a quasi peaceful state.
The PRC has proven that Might equals Right is their foreign
policy. Even President Duterte kow towed to the PRC by stating
that he does not have the might to keep the PRC from
encroaching into his country's globally recognized waters by
international law. The PRC claims are as ridiculous as its claims
to the South Pole, or a Saudi Arabia/Iran/Somalia, etc claiming
the Strait of Malacca as their own. Totally preposterous, get it?

ilcn in reply to guest-snmojen

I agreed with some of what you described, which clearly suggested that the current state of China was not perfect. However, you organized them in a way that in the best is only a perspective. You sentences such as `"There is a long way for China to modernize." How many more thousands of years would that take?', `The world is better off with the United States as the main power to keep an erratic world in a quasi peaceful state.' clearly show where you are from.

You completely ignored two basic facts: first, the western dominance of the world was a recent one. Second, with more than one billion population, three times as large as the US's, China will soon surpass the US as the world's largest economy. The only way for China to fall behind the US is to make China's income level below one third of that of the US... If you presumption is that this can make the world better off, I think what you have in mind is your small town, but not the true world. Think about India, another country with a large population with fast growth. A lot of actions will take place in ASIA, unfortunately...

You seem to lack knowledge about economic convergence and made a statement that was completely unfounded as "The PRC was only able to prosper thanks to the USA. It would have never accomplish a jump to 2nd largest global economy without it.” You can google economic convergence, or check out many economic research papers that reveal China's economic miracle. It kind of replicated what occurred in Japan and Korea, but the growth of China had its unique feature.

You also have too simple a view about global politics. I would strongly recommend you to google Thucydides Trap, to be more rational in thinking about China's inevitable rise!

guest-snmojen in reply to guest-ajlmawml

You can google it: The PRC are currently expanding
into the South Pole under a "Scientific guise"

As for the others mentioned, these suppositions
would be taken as preposterous by any person
with a common sense. Why is it that the PRC claiming
the whole SCS as its own is not viewed in the same
way by countless PRC bootlickers in the East and the
West? Could it be a little PRC "mordida" has clouded
their visions?

guest-snmojen in reply to ilcn

Ancient China does not fare well when viewed under a
microscope. Its negative aspects outweigh the positives
by a large margin. For every invention and sea explorer,
there are countless examples of nefarious leaders and
corrupt officials. For every exalting of upward mobility,
there is a dearth of self started men who accomplished
rags to riches miracles like Robert Bigelow, George Ballas,
Harland Sanders, Sir Richard Branson, Chris Gardner,
John Paul Dejoria, Elon Musk, Tyler Perry, George Washington
Carver, Moses Asom to name a few. The upward mobility
in ancient China was on the government side of the equation.
It was never ever ever on the Individual side.

What good is to surpass in GDP terms if GDP per capita
is a notch above Africa? Brazilians surpassed the UK briefly
in GDP terms. Ask a Favela dweller if he would trade his
subhuman abode for even a flat in Blackpool. I bet you that
an overwhelming majority of them would prefer the UK.
Ask Nordestinos if they would swap their Sertao conditions
to a friozinho in the Midlands or a flat in Brighton. Just take
a Brazilian Nordestino to a Telsco Supermarket to make you
a believer that GDP without adequate GDP per capita is rubbish.

One has observed that the PRC is banking in dethroning the
USA in several key strategic areas. The PRC is banking on
derailing the US Dollar as the world's currency. Additionally,
the PRC desires to curtail the US influence with other nations
(be it diplomatically (like the Phillipines), be it militarily (like
many emerging nations), be it trade (the PRC wants to replace
the TPP with its own global trade arm). While a cheaply made
PRC leather sofa as a bribe might curry favor with some African
Chieftans, it does not fly with Europeans and others who can
see right through the PRC B.S.

The world will not be better off with the PRC at the helm.
John Glenn flew on the Discovery at age 77.
PRC Astronauts are considered done much younger than that.

Harland Sanders started KFC at age 66.
PRC entrepreneurs as well as other BRIC countries would
discourage such entrepreneurial accomplishments.

Chris Gardner, a former homeless Black man, was supported
on his ambitions to establish his own Brokerage firm. His
rags to riches story can be verified without any doubts.

A PRC minority like a Miao will never ever establish something
like a Xiaomi, Alibaba, etc. In addition, a Miao will never ever
become a successor to Xi either. Proof that the PRC has gone
backwards even in the government side of upward mobility.

R996

The Chinese will be like well-fed animals on a super efficient farm. I'm sure some people will not mind living in a society of yes-men and sycophants.

ý@ýýýýH in reply to R996

[R996 wrote:
Playing the race card will not work with us overseas Chinese. We are not fooled by the common color of our skin into thinking that the CCP and its toadies are somehow working for the interests of the Chinese people. The CCP is now creating wicked system in which everyone is a slave to someone and a master to someone else. This is the rebirth of the country I left so many years ago.]

But, but... Playing the race card works for the white racists.

http://nextshark.com/racist-anti-chinese-flyers-popping-mailboxes-around...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-flyers-richmond-1....

Devil's

ý@ýýýýH in reply to R996

[R996Dec 17th, 05:09
The Chinese will be like well-fed animals on a super efficient farm. I'm sure some people will not mind living in a society of yes-men and sycophants.]

The whites still see the world as one giant "super efficient" Animal Farm, in which "All animals are equal, but the white animals are more equal than other-- especially the Chinese-- animals."

http://nextshark.com/racist-anti-chinese-flyers-popping-mailboxes-around...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-flyers-richmond-1....

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ý@ýýýýH in reply to R996

[R996Dec 17th, 05:09

The Chinese will be like well-fed animals on a super efficient farm. I'm sure some people will not mind living in a society of yes-men and sycophants.]

And you are the perfect "yes-man" and a "sycophant" to English-speaking white supremists like Clint:

{Devils Advocate_1in reply to Clint.Southward

[Clint.Southwardin reply to L6QjhvJGVkJan 26th, 02:17

"The Chinese have been fed a myth that they are going to be the next superpower and the Middle Kingdom is going to be restored to its "natural" place - to its birthright."
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This is what I said. "are going" is the same as "will" - future tense. Regardless of the debate about how you measure the size of economies hundreds of years (or even more than a thousand years ago) with little data available, and which side one falls on that debate, I was talking about Chinese expectations for themselves and the future, and what might happen if those expectations are thwarted, and they realize that recovering from the 19th century and the great leap backward is not going to be so emphatic as they had imagined.]

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I have been watching this "feeding of a myth" thing for the past 2 decades. The "feeding" was done by Westerners. The Chinese always say that China is still a developing country, its people are still poor, its capabilities are limited, etc etc.
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To the Chinese, there is nothing called "natural place" or "birthright". The Chinese believe that whatever you want to get, you must struggle for it and it is everyone's own responsibility to make it to the very top. Ditto for countries. This is a very destabilizing ideology-- For it not only means that the Chinese might one day challenge YOUR "modern world" which was made by YOUR "English speaking people", which is bad enough. This Chinese belief actually means that the Indians, Indonesians, Africans, Papua New Guineans too are entitled to put themselves at the very top of the international order-- As long as they work hard enough to get themselves there. Now, that would really flush YOUR "modern world" down the drain!!!

.

You don't seem to understand that the "modern world" is not your "English speaking people's" "birthright"! But then, what else can be your "expectations for yourselves"???
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What you said above merely reflected your Anglo-Saxon mentality. I know because I spent more than a decade living in England. And YOU are the perfect embodiment of that mentality!}
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ý@ýýýýH in reply to R996

2)

But to the chagrin of the "English-speaking people", especially the US, the Chinese have a habit of NOT knowing their place:

{ý@ýýýýHin reply to sikko6

[sikko6in reply to ashbirdSep 19th, 06:13

Chinese are very good at copying. China will copy what America did.]

And then America will say, "Do as I say, NOT as I do!" but China won't listen because the Chinese, unlike some other non-whites, have a habit of not "knowing their place" in front of the whites. The whites and honourary whites then proceed to hate the Chinese for not knowing their place.... ;-D, ;-D, ;-D

Tom Clancy should start writing future history along such a theme.}

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ý@ýýýýH in reply to R996

3)

However, all is not lost. There are people-- mostly from South Asia, Southeast Asia and sometimes from East Asia-- who seem to believe that, if they willingly take an inferior position towards the whites of the West, it can make them superior to the Chinese and they demand precisely that from the Chinese! And they tend to be those Asians who reside in the West-- in particular in the US!!!

Sentinele (who also used the user-name "Tocharian") below was a typical example and the Devil gave his reply to this Burmese who felt his Burmese pride was UNJUSTLY wounded by the Chinese because China wanted to match the advanced Western societies ("historic struggle" against the West ) instead of merely wanting to catch up with Burma (one of these 'other countries in this world and they have their pride too'):

{Devils Advocate_1in reply to SentineleseJun 6th 2014 6:07 GMT
[Sentinelesein reply to gocanucks1 hour 22 mins ago
Most Chinese, even if they live in the West, are very defensive and sensitive about criticism of their "motherland". Loyalty to the "Han Civilization" seems to override even the loyalty to the country where they hold their citizenship. They also typically assume that all other non-Western countries and non-white people would automatically be pro-Chinese and anti-US/UK. Why?

China believes it is engaging in a "historic struggle" against the West for global dominance (and to correct the past). The rest of Asia, Africa and South America is of course, just populated by "underdeveloped and uncultured barbarians" but useful for natural resources and to be bullied. At the same time Chinese want to "liked", even admired by the people in the neighbourhood that they treat as uncivilised and weak. Hypocrisy combined with such fervour and righteousness is scary, especially coming from such a large nation. Perhaps they should introduce democratic reforms in their own country first (give up one-party rule) before they think about becoming a superpower. It's not just China vs USA. There are other countries in this world and they have their pride too.]

Version 2.0:

Most contented members of "an inferior race" like Toc and Bis, even if they live in the West, are very aggressive in accusing the Chinese who do not accept the "inferior race" status. Loyalty to their "superior European race masters" seems to override the very basic human quality called JUSTICE. They also typically assume that the Chinese would automatically take an inferior position to the honourary whites like the Japanese, the Burmese, etc. Why?

Toc believes he has to engage in an "epic historic struggle" against the Chinese in order to maintain what he sees as the correct order of human relations in the world, which is that the whites are on the very top of the human race, the honourary whites, like the Nipponese, Burmese following below, then the Chinese and other yellow people, and with the dark-skin Rohingyas, Africans, at the very bottom-- For him, that structure must hold regardless of how much or how little each of all these different peoples put into improving their own lives. But the Chinese have committed the unforgivable sin of surpassing the Burmese in their achievements. Now, they even want to match Toc's "superior European masters"-- Something the Burmese NEVER even dare to dream about. That is an UNBEARABLE insult to Burmese dignity. The Chinese are only supposed to stay below the level of the Burmese and to hope, in vain, to catch up with Burmese in accomplishments!!! It is therefore necessary for Toc to double, re-double, and re-double to the nth power, his effort to conduct "an epic historic struggle" on the The Economist forums to FORBID the Chinese from doing better than the Burmese-- Until the Chinese see reason and voluntarily reduce their accomplishments to no more than half of what the Burmese can manage.

The rest of Asia, Africa and South America is of course, just populated by "underdeveloped and uncultured barbarians" like the Rohingyas, but they are useful when the racist Burmese like Toc feel the need to shoot someone for sport. At the same time Burmese want to be "liked", even hugged by the people in the neighborhood that they treat as subhuman. (http://www.e-ir.info/2012/09/12/growing-up-a-proud-racist-in-burma/). Hypocrisy combined with such fervour and righteousness is scary, especially coming from such people who racially worship those "superior European race masters", who have enslaved the entire non-white world for centuries.

Perhaps they should introduce foreign Y-chromosomes all over their country first (and give up the racist Burmese Y-chromosome) before they think about becoming a normal member of a "non-inferior race". It's not just the Chinese. All the people in this world must earn their pride instead of thinking they they could automatically acquire it by submitting themselves to their "superior European race masters".}

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What a chilling vision of things to come. Made me think of this line from Orwell"s 1984:

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

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