Inside The Downfall Of iiNet Sydney

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TPG currently stands as the second largest internet service provider (ISP) in Australia, and is a force to be reckoned with in the telecommunications industry. Its rapid growth is mainly attributed to strategic acquisitions it has made in recent years. One of those acquisitions was iiNet, an ISP that boasted high customer satisfaction and respect in the community.

A year after TPG bought iiNet, the situation looks bleak for the ISP that was once the darling of the telco industry. Most recently, iiNet's Sydney office was shut down, most of its staff made redundant. We spoke to one former iiNet employee to get the insider story on the aftermath of the TPG acquisition. We also spoke with iiNet, to get its side of the story.

Updated 9/12/16 5:38pm: Added comments from former iiNet employee from the Melbourne office.

This story originally appeared on Lifehacker Australia.

Conflicting values

TPG completed its acquisition of iiNet for $1.56 billion late last year. At the time the acquisition was announced, questions were raised over how iiNet's culture and operations would be impacted.

The Perth-based ISP was founded in 1993 by Michael Malone and Michael O'Reilly in a garage. Despite the company's rapid growth, iiNet held on to its relaxed and open attitude not only towards staff, but to customers and the media as well. iiNet's executive team were approachable and outspoken about industry topics even if it ruffled a few feathers. The company was also undeniably skilled at providing good customer service, which has been well-documented.

Meanwhile, TPG was a low-cost ISP and had garnered a less-than-desirable reputation, racking up a long list of customer complaints. You sign up to TPG not because of its customer service, but because the internet packages were dirt cheap. TPG CEO, David Teoh, was a notoriously reticent and reclusive man who rarely gave interviews. Today the telco is a force to be reckoned with, having snapped up PIPE Networks, the consumer arms of AAPT. It now owns a 100% stake in iiNet, one of the most well-loved ISPs in the country.

While it made sense for TPG to grow through acquisitions, there were concerns about the future of iiNet. The two companies held completely different values on a number of industry issues.

For one, iiNet has been willing to protect customers from big Hollywood studios that wanted to sue them for alleged copyright infringement. It has gone to court to do so, refusing to bend to studios' requests to send infringement notices to subscribers and refusing to surrender information on suspected content pirates.

Meanwhile, TPG was happy to send infringement notices to customers suspected of pirating copyright material.

iiNet was vehemently against data retention laws the Australian Government introduced earlier this year. TPG remained silent over the matter.

iiNet had been eager to ingratiate itself with customers to build up trust in the brand. TPG doesn't seem too worried about that. At the time of the acquisition, there was apprehension over how the buyout would impact iiNet's loyal group of customers and its team of dedicated employees.

Malone, who left his post as iiNet's managing director in 2014 but remained a shareholder of the company, was against the acquisiton.

Business-As-Usual?

iiNet has offices in nearly every capital city in Australia. When news of the TPG acquisition was made public, iiNet staff were reassured by both the management and human resources teams that it would be business-as-usual.

Commentators in the telco industry had already noted that it would be a bad idea for TPG to make changes that would tarnish iiNet's stellar reputation. iiNet was the premium brand here and it was best it remained that way.

But changes started happened at the beginning of 2016. A source from iiNet's Sydney office told Lifehacker Australia that it began with small changes, mainly cost cutting. Customer service members were no longer able to apply credit to customer accounts without approval from upper management; they had previously been able to offer $50 without seeking approval.

iiNet general manager of customer service Matt Conn spoke to Lifehacker Australia about the changes.

"There has to be a balance with our credit policy," he explained. "Fixing the root cause of a problem instead of applying credit to appease a customer is something we're focused on."

According to our source, major changes didn't kick-off until March. Teams in the Sydney office were being shut down every few weeks and some members were shuttered over to TransACT, a division of iiNet that maintains the VDSL network in the ACT and the HFC network in parts of Victoria.

iiNet's Sydney office was down-sized as well. Staff were moved from a newly furbished modern office on Market Street in the CBD to a smaller premises on George Street nearby.

Local customer service roles were increasingly being shifted to overseas call centres, mainly in South Africa. Up until that point, overseas call centres were only supposed to provide support outside of Australian working hours.

Customers noticed the difference.

"Our Net Promoter Score (NPS), used to measure customer satisfaction with a company, started to drop dramatically and customers started to complain about bad customer service," the source said. In fact, the TIO documented a whopping 48.2% jump in complaints against iiNet this year.

Conn refuted this claim, stating that the company's NPS has remained consistent and is currently at 54. However, iiNet's NPS was well over 60 - closer to 64, according to our source - back in 2014.

Some iiNet employees left of their own accord, fed up with the constant changes and uncertainty that TPG had brought in. At one point, over a two-month period, there was only one person in the iiNet Sydney office taking customer service calls.

The Sydney office began to empty out and by the time it was completely shut down on December 2, only a skeleton staff remained - 30 employees were manning the fort, down from around 200 just over a year ago, according to our source. They had been moved to a smaller office formerly occupied by staff from AAPT, another one of TPG's acquisitions.

iiNet's reason for closing down the office was that it had always been predominantly a contact centre site and natural attrition led to a smaller team, which made it difficult to manage, Conn said.

In TPG's Annual Report released in September this year, Teoh had this to say about iiNet:

"While there is still much to do, I am pleased to report that the integration is progressing well. Employees from both sides of the merger have risen to the challenge of the integration and have continued to deliver the premium levels of customer service for which iiNet has gained a strong reputation."

That sentiment was not shared by iiNet's Sydney office. On November 25, just a few weeks before Christmas, the remaining workers at the Sydney office were told that they were being let go.

Conn said that he spoke to each employee directly about the office closure and that iiNet had tried their best to offer roles to the remaining staff but most of them refused the opportunity.

"We still had several roles that weren't filled; there were a substantial number of roles and we wanted to attempt to retain most of the staff. There was almost enough roles to fit office," he said. "The benefit of iiNet becoming a part of a bigger group [TPG] is that that there are more opportunities available.

"We were committed to retain as many staff members as possible."

iiNet was even willing to consider creating new roles for the remaining staff, internally or at other TPG-owned companies, to ensure all the staff had a chance to remain with the business.

Our source refuted Conn's claims.

"I don't know about other staff but I never had a conversation with Matt Conn," our source said. "The majority of roles offered through to us were roles well above what we were suited for (high-level tech and managerial positions) and even the people who were suited for managers roles had a hard time getting them. Our team senior was knocked back for a management role though he had been doing it for years."

The Future Of iiNet

Our source suggested that the Melbourne iiNet office will also be shut down shortly. Lifehacker Australia questioned Conn about whether there were any plans to close other offices around the country.

"We have to constantly review operational structure, but there are no immediate plans for anything," he said. "However, in saying that, we are reviewing all parts of the business. It will depend on timing and the number of available roles; our focus is on redeployment."

We pressed him further on whether there were any discussions about closing down the Melbourne office.

"The Melbourne branch does specialist tasks for us; right now, that is the focus for them," Conn said. "There are roles with in the [TPG] group that are open to staff, depending on how it all plays out. Today, Melbourne is a key part of our business."

However, a former employee from iiNet's Melbourne operation told Lifehacker Australia that the company had sent out an official email internally to informed staff that the office was to be closed down and the remaining staff would be moved to TPG's offices in Richmond, Victoria. Lifehacker Australia was unable to verify this because our source no longer had access to his former work email account. We have contacted iiNet again for additional comment.

Our source from the Melbourne office claimed that before he left, a huge portion of the staff had already been culled and office perks such as fresh fruit and coffee machines had been taken away from the break room.

"From a technical staff point of view, no major changes were allowed due to TPG management, which meant that project work and improvements had been thrown to the wayside which effectively turns engineers and admins into zombies, firefighting the same occurring issues over and over again," our source said.

On the iiNet official website, it currently states: "We employ more than 3,000 enthusiastic staff across three countries - 80 per cent of whom are employed to directly service nearly one million customers."

Our source from the Sydney office speculated that most of the 3000 staff are in overseas contact centres and highlighted that the page hasn't been updated for some time. Right now it seems like a relic of iiNet's golden days.

"The worst part is not that we are losing our jobs; we will bounce back," our source said. "It's the loyal iiNet customers who will suffer the most out of all of this. It need to be known that iiNet is just TPG wearing the shredded remains of iiNet's skin and taking advantage of (a quickly disappearing) reputation to gain customers."

Conn, on the other hand, believes iiNet has benefited a lot from being a part of TPG.

"In the last 12 months, we've released new products that have been beneficial to our customers and that is a positive thing that is overlooked at times," he said. "There is a heavy focus on our network stability, which has increased, and there are other products that TPG have that we can take advantage of.

"Being part of the bigger group, I honestly believe, brings benefit to our customers."

This article originally appeared on Lifehacker Australia


Comments

    Iinet is my ISP and the quality of service has improved - my ADSL 2 average speef has gone from 13 to 18Mbs in the last 12 months.

    And closing an office is not "shafting the workers". What would you expect a business to do with an office it no longer needs? You say "Thanks for the service, here's your redundancy, good luck in the future."

      I'm just going to slightly re-word steve f.'s comment here, since it seems to create a balance:

      "Because changing ownership of a business instantly causes" improved line speeds "all the copper wires and DSLAMs knew about it you see, as soon as TPG took over, isn't that right" Almost"? Anecdotal rubbish."

      Well said steve f., well said.

        Line speed isn't just a factor of hardware, synchronisation profiles also play a part. If TPG runs a different set of profiles on their equipment and applied them after acquiring iiNet customers then an instant sync speed change certainly will happen.

      @Almost cant fault your logic, but the really sad thing is that when you start to multiply your thinking out across the entire market things get ugly real fast. I still cant believe that 18mbps is considered good in Australia. In NZ gigabit is widely sold

      That increase in ADSL2 speed would be to do with the deal with Telstra, unlikely anything at all to do with TPG themselves.

    I have been an iinet customer for over 20 years. The charge is OVERT and APPARENT - as soon as TPG took over, I was getting more drop outs. Longer wait times on service calls, and worse actual information - such as "we can't help you as you have a business account - and our support staff only work on those accounts during business hours."

    Really?

    Really!

      Because changing ownership of a business instantly causes more line dropouts, all the copper wires and DSLAMs knew about it you see, as soon as TPG took over, isn't that right Spurge? Anecdotal rubbish.

        I am sure that it was hyperbole.

        I am an iinet customer of 8.5 years and I am considering a switch. They screwed up my last change of address and triple charged me the fee and it took 2-3 weeks for them to sort out the invoicing. Something they used to be on the ball about.

        The frequency of hitting a south african call center is also much higher than it used to be. I was reassured by the fact that if I called between 8am-5pm I would either get NZ or AU. Now it's hard pressed to get anywhere but Cape Town.

        I am also going to get HFC NBN in my area early next year and what is with their plans - 12mbit, 25mbit or 100mbit. Yet Internode (also owned by TPG/iinet) offers a 50mbit plan?

        It's enough to make just bundle my internet with my Optus bill and be done with it

          I've been with internode for ages and was worried when they got bought out by iinet but it didn't seem to affect them. Now they're owned by TPG I'm seriously looking for an alternative because their service is declining.

          I recently lodged a support call for a minor problem and it took 4 days to get a response. More worrying they replied something along the lines of "I tested it using your account login and password and it worked"... excuse me?! You used my password to test it? What the F**k happened to security? That shouldn't be possible.

          Just need to find a smallish ISP who isn't crap and not owned by one of the big three.

            Ex-iiNet call center slave here: A ton of customer problems are what's referred to as "Auth Problems", or simply wrong user name and password or something affecting how the username and password are transmitted.

            When you call and they bring up your account successfully with you, they are given your password in plain text, in big letters on the side of the screen. This is usually part of the reason there's the annoying security check before they do anything with your account.

            Having access to the password is pretty standard practice for anything helpdesk. If you're using the same password for multiple things - well that's your fuckup, isn't it?

      @Spurge - seriously dude take the logical option and leave - find an ISP that has a proper help desk, bite the bullet and pay a little more. If enough people start doing that TPG will chnage their tune

    There are only a certain number of ISPs that service my area, and so unless I want to a ridiculous amount of money for internet TPG it is.

      But, TPG (for the most part) just uses Telstra/NBN infrastructure...the same stuff that all the other ISPs use.
      So I don't see how they could be your only choice.

    Iv been with iinet for about 9 years now and have definitely noticed a drop in the quality of service since the TPG takeover. Average speeds have dropped and a lot more connection drop outs. Its pretty crap considering I pay $90 a month. I will definitely look at changing soon.

      Same here, was with them for 10 years! Just changed provider last week as customer service of iinet has become total crap.

        who did you go with? and how do you rate them?

    I've had TPG for years, and they've been fine. Very few issues, and the ones that have occurred have been resolved quickly. It's a shame that iinet is going though, as even though I was never a customer, I was always impressed by their unwillingness to just roll over for the frankly hideous movie industry demands.

      You must have hit the ISP lottery to have obtained such quality of service from a company like TPG . If only the rest of us were so lucky.

        I've been with TPG in the past in 2 different areas. Never had a drama.

    Great article. It is a good read. Great to have an Aussie story, even if its bad.

    I was with TPG for years (5+) because its cheap. I can fix 90% of my internet problems, so never had to contact them. They never stuffed up my billing and their online service worked without being mind blowing. I know it's not the same for everyone, but this was the perfect set for me.

    I always told people if you can handle the above scenario TPG are the way to go. iiNet are much better if you wanted service and some frills.

    Its disappointing to see that customers choice is being reduced and that the staff are being let go.

      I was with TPG for ages too, and never had an issue. I knew how to diagnose faults on my end and only had to contact TPG once, and the issue was resolved quickly. They were also really cheap.

      Sad to see iinet coming to an end though.

    Mat Conn is merely a puppet for Craig Levy & David Teoh. The simple fact is the culture is merely a shadow of what it once was & the iinet brand merely only exists for the purpose of a database that TPG can rape, pillage & plunder to move across on to their own network & maximize profits. The customer is no longer at the forefront of what they (iinet) do & TPG run the company like the North Korean government

      Regardless of your feelings, making a new account that's an insulting play on a guy's name is childish as fuck.

    iiNet staff were reassured by both the management and human resources teams that it would be business-as-usual.
    I get the passion people feel for iiNet.
    I'm a little confused by how "The day TPG bought iiNet" I started getting dropouts. Gear isnt changed that quickly, if at all.

    But for the staff and the fans saying how unfair this is, and how staff aren't being treated well, I'd like to say, this is pretty much exactly how most iiNet acquisitions went.
    "{Insert brand here} was amazing, and worked well, and had the best staff in the world, and the best plans, until iiBorg assimilated it into the collective. F@%$ iiNet"

    OzEmail were a very well known, well liked brand. iiNet assured it would be business as usual - except the metro wireless ("it's shit" - though retrospectcively perhaps ahead of its time.) Staff were quickly laid off, the migration went so badly it got mainsteam media attention, and then, unrelated, they suspended ASX trading for a number of months. Eventually got rid of the brand, keeping just the call centre staff in Sydney, which worked in line with thein in-house follow-the-sun model.

    Essentially TPG, a budget focused ISP, have done the same thing. The assimilator became the assimilated.

      That said, I've been a happy TPG customer for a number of years, but last weekend started having issues with dropouts. I blame the closure of the Sydney iiNet call centre.

    I love iiNet and have only remained with them for 10+ years due to their customer service.
    I love supporting Aussie Jobs but to be honest, the guys and girls in South Africa are the best for technical and customer service support in my opinion and I often wait until after 5pm Melbourne time purely so I can get through to them.
    Nothing wrong with call centres who can answer the phone and listen and assist their customers, here's hoping it doesn't get changed to India or Philippines, that will be the day I quit.

      ZINGER!

      Guess what!
      The new Manila contact centre is almost done training their new staff.

    Fuck TPG and their dobbing in of customers that pirate. I'm with iinet but now I know this, I'm jumping ship. Fuck you again TPG you dogs.

    Last edited 09/12/16 2:43 pm

      I've been with TPG for about 15 years. Medium to heavy torrenting through that time, never once received a warning from them. As almost every comment in that reddit thread says, TPG only forwards the warning at worst, they never take it any further than that. You can safely ignore them.

    I have always preferred TPG to iiNet. iiNet make a big to-do about customer service, but TPG simply fix the problem. Best thing about TPG is that in the 10 or so tears I have dealt with them, I have only ever needed their tech support once, and that was a pleasant and efficient outcome.
    TPG obviously have no long-term need for the iiNet brand, once its customers are transferred over effectively. Withdrawing resources from duplication in iiNet and encouraging people to switch to TPG (better pricing, more data, better speeds) is part of the transition to a single, unified ISP. Blind Freddy could have seen all of this coming, and would have made the switch to TPG long ago.
    The real enemy is Telstra, not TPG.

      This reads like an IPO flyer. Except you misspelled "years" as "tears".

      Freudian slip?

    For what it's worth, I'm in the "iinet used to have good customer service, now it's pants" camp. But it's worse than that - you can't actually get any customer service. You can ring or mail them as much as you like, you ain't getting diddly.
    My standard interaction with them now is via TIO. And iinet tend to eventually make a half-hearted attempt at contact (from South Africa) then close the complaint off with a markedly different recollection of events to my own. And they'll often update tasks with statements such as "couldn't contact customer". I used to like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but now I will actually call iinet's support out as outright liars. And not on an isolated occasion - this is routine.

    Also, the stock/supplied picture of this Sydney-centric story is of the Subiaco iinet office. Just saying.

    I've been with iiNet for years. Only spoke to them once during signup 4-5yrs ago during setup - great customer service. No reason to ever, to call them.
    Recently, switched my plan. Customer service has deteriorated so much; Have been over-charged for the last 2-3 months with little explanation. Had to follow it up with numerous phone calls to resolve.

    Also, customer service call backs at 10pm from SA seemed a bit dodgy initially and took some getting used to. But, not left with much of a choice, in an effort to resolve billing issues.

    With respect to internet service - no change. No better, no worse.

    Same story at Aapt. 100+ people gone between retrenchments and poor conditions, deliberate uncertainty.

    No news stories though.

    Since the acquisition. Customer service has TANKED. every phone call (9am, 11:30am,2PM,8PM) ALL OF THEM 45 minute minimum max was 1.5 hours wait time. its become a joke!

    For everyone saying how their customer service has gone to crap lately. How often do you call them to notice? If they were that good I would assume you never need to call them.

    I was with Iinet for over 20 years, until TPG took over. Everything changed, internet speed, reliability and sadly service. In the end I was having between 20 and 30 drop outs a day and after numerous times allowing Iinet to fix the issue I finally left Iinet. And finally I have been having an issue with their billing dept since August. Four times I have been told it was fixed only to have it rear it's ugly head again. I don't think TPG gives a rats about anything but the money it can make.

    I have been with TransAct (now iinet) for 16 years for broadband and TPG for mobile for 3 years. I have started to deal with South Africa call centres and Man! are they rude.If you get stroppy because (recent example, they sold you something they said would get to you in 7 days, but they don't actually have in stock and they simply don't know when it will reach you - or IF it will!) they start off from a position not of " listen, I'm a little unfamiliar with this but with "Would you please shut up and let me run this conversation". To which my answer is No, because you clearly don't know what I'm allying about.

    None of the Iinet offices are talking to each other, South Africa clearly doesn't know what's happening in Australia and my guess is that staff are totally unsupported by either their systems (which is a laugh in itself) or their managers.

    And now, the TPG service for calls and SMS from my mobile has ceased to exist for the past 48 hours (sic) and TPG is reporting "No issues reported". Yet I had no problems with TPG until they moved from Optus to Vodafone about 12 months ago.

    Hate to say it, but I'm heading back to Telstra. At least they give Australians jobs!

    I was an Internode customer for years. but after being bought out by TPG I had to drop them. they used to be so good, but migrating to NBN and then attempting to relocate was a real pain. they used to reply to emails almost instantly. but now take days/weeks. also concerned about (lack of) privacy

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