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Tony's techies don't care for $20,000 tax break

Assistant Minister for Innovation Wyatt Roy was treated to a rock-star reception at a Melbourne tech conference.

Assistant Minister for Innovation Wyatt Roy was treated to a rock-star reception at a Melbourne tech conference. Photo: AFR

For companies that can be profitable one day but dead the next week, a month is a very long time.

A whole month has passed since the federal government announced its $20,000 tax break, but start-up investor Adrian Stone has not heard a single founder mention any of the new measures introduced to boost the small end of town.

Mr Stone has invested in more than 40 start-ups, and co-ordinates AngelCube, one of Australia's leading accelerator programs, which is based in Melbourne's busiest tech start-up co-working hub.

He told Fairfax Media the budget's tax concessions may have hit the mark for small businesses, but it was largely irrelevant for early-stage high-growth companies.

"Tax breaks and advantages aimed at small business do nothing for start-ups because they don't pay tax for many years, because any money they make is invested straight back into the business," Mr Stone said.

The federal government may have pitched the budget as one to boost new businesses, but the start-up community remains sceptical that  the government can ever encourage technology innovation if it continually describes it as small business.

Their concerns are not without grounds. Treasurer Joe Hockey routinely suggests the budget will help the next Uber and AirBnB, effectively categorising these high-risk high-growth enterprises fuelled by millions in venture capital alongside three-person accounting companies or local cafes.

But if the budget failed to hit the mark for start-ups, it hasn't phased Liberal member of parliament Wyatt Roy, who wants to address the lack of targeted technology innovation policies.

Mr Roy says he understand the start-up community's frustration with the government, but says change is on its way, even as early as this year.

"Start-ups are cynical about government but we're changing," Mr Roy said.

"I feel we get taken to task a lot about not understanding and being able to articulate the difference between start-ups and small businesses, but we're getting there."

Mr Roy has been lobbying internally for months for the creation of a government-wide policy to encourage technology entrepreneurship, similar to the overarching competition and industry policies.

"I'm optimistic that we can launch something spot on for start-ups by the end of year. There are lots of ideas going on in conversations with the Prime Minister, the Treasurer, the ministers for communication and small business."

Core to Mr Roy's proposed approach would be increased government recognition of start-ups to drive cultural change, adding mandatory business training to school curriculum and possibly even targeted co-investment schemes.

The government has resolved taxation issues around employee share schemes and promised a similar fix to crowd-sourced equity fundraising, finally putting Australia on an equal footing with countries gunning for tech talent such as New Zealand, the United Kingdom and Israel, all of which have a cross-portfolio program to drive entrepreneurship.

Mr Roy is not the only one lobbying for this style of government engagement. A whole-government policy was one of the first recommendations in a policy assessment report released by peak body StartupAUS in April.

The report included detailed recommendations for policy changes successfully piloted in other countries, such as a capital gains exemption for investments in tech companies and loosening migration policies to cover skills shortages.

The report's author, StartupAUS board member Colin Kinner, said the government was moving in the right direction, but too slowly.

"It's time we followed other countries in which we're seeing a very clear focus on investing in and backing the highest-growth companies, which are almost uniformly technology ones," Mr Kinner said.

"We can't stop the brain drain, but that happens everywhere. The important factor is, Do they keep a presence here, and do they return? We can fix that, but we need to be moving much faster."

 

10 comments so far

  • This taxpayer funded handout is meaningless to start ups as traditionally they take a few years to start generating profits in order to claim the tax deduction. By that time it is too late to be of any real benefit to them. Perhaps if the government stopped decimating the R&D incentives we could say they are helping startups and innovation.

    This $20K pork barreling will have little benefit to the economy in terms of ongoing income generation (e.g. buying a table tennis table is deductible but where is the ongoing benefit to the economy?) bu will cost us a lot to implement. Another example of this government implementing policy for its PR impact rather than economic impact.

    Commenter
    Lance
    Date and time
    June 09, 2015, 9:23AM
    • The article is about Tony's techies want a tax break not that they don't care for the 20k hand out. Don't worry they will be right into it- parcels of 20k amounts to mountains of TI equipment

      The real issue is that Tony and Joe don't seem to recognise the need for Techies at all and that this sector can drive the economy beyond to splashing cash into it.

      Commenter
      wheretheresawill
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      June 09, 2015, 9:45AM
      • No surprise here. Tony does not want the Techies vote they are way too green in values and most likely are a mixed bag electorate wise. What Tony wanted was the AJ corp of tradies.
        Just goes to show Tony like Howard thinks science is studying Hairdressing. I am just waiting for the day when an economist is asked to perform heart surgery on Tony.
        Just like the Libs policy towards science the Libs are scared witless of people who think and have brains, they prefer dummies.

        Commenter
        Lindsay
        Location
        Sydney
        Date and time
        June 09, 2015, 9:53AM
        • Malcolm Turnbull needs to take ownership of this and I believe he is trying. He is the only one in the government who understands the technology industry.

          Commenter
          Sunil
          Date and time
          June 09, 2015, 10:38AM
          • For a government that is calm and considered they don't seem to have considered much of anything. Why don't they just ask those involved?

            Commenter
            Kel
            Date and time
            June 09, 2015, 10:49AM
            • Tony's tradies, techies, call them what you like, they aren't as stupid as Tony thought. Don't get sucked into this debt trap boys, you have to spend it first to get 30% back, that's assuming you have the money and are making a profit in the first place. Keep you money in the bank, even at 0%, you still have it. Tony's and Joe are coming and it ain't to help. The more debt you have, the less control over your life and business you have. Just where they want you. It's not a tax break, it's an opportunity for you to be sucked into more debt.

              Commenter
              citislicker
              Location
              cbd
              Date and time
              June 09, 2015, 10:56AM
              • A real NBN would be a good start for startup techs.. instead we have Turnbull's dogs breakfast.

                Commenter
                Wake up
                Date and time
                June 09, 2015, 3:15PM
                • Perhaps the IT professional are a tad smarter than the average tradie and appreciate the $20k deduction is not a cash payment from the government but instead accelerated depreciation bringing forward future years deductions into the current year. Short term intergenerational theft to attempt to keep the economy from slipping into technical recession and also buy votes for the LNP at the upcoming election. If IT professionals having been paying attention they would have made up their minds about not voting for the LNP when the real NBN was flushed down the proverbial.

                  Commenter
                  Bean counter
                  Date and time
                  June 09, 2015, 9:28PM
                  • I think they have made it clear what they think of business and technology by killing FTTP therefore discouraging our technology economy future which is inevitable much like the decline of Foxtel is.

                    Commenter
                    danielr
                    Date and time
                    June 09, 2015, 10:01PM
                    • No IT start up will really do well on an international scale until this country gets a halfway decent broadband network going.

                      Commenter
                      Noodlebat
                      Date and time
                      June 15, 2015, 10:17AM

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