For some time I have ignored the intemperate, aggressive posts of Mr Jacubs, in which he repeatedly misrepresents my position on the bombing of German civilians. I am grateful to those other contributors who have defended me against his assaults. But I now feel the moment has come to respond. As I have said, some contributors here are no more than background noise. I have tried to engage with them and found it a waste of time. In the interests of trying to maintain standards of civility, generosity to opponents, logic and behaviour, I now turn to Mr Jacubs. Let us see whether he can defend himself, whether he can learn from argument, or whether he, too, can be dismissed hereafter as background noise. It’s up to him.
I shall deal, piece by piece, with his latest contribution:
Mr Jacubs writes :”Here we go again. Mr Hitchens and his absolute loathing for all things to do with Britain’s contribution in winning both world wars.”
I reply: What is this ‘absolute loathing’ of which he speaks? ‘Absolute’ is a pretty powerful word, and it means what it says. Absolute. I have expressed, on many occasions, my admiration for the individual courage and sacrifice of soldiers, sailors and airmen during both these wars, a body of men and women which includes my own father and grandfather, and my mother. I here do so again. Thus, there is no ‘loathing’ and it is not ‘absolute’. I might add that I am unequivocally glad that, having entered these wars, we were not on the losing side in either of them. Will Mr Jacubs therefore withdraw these words (I know he cannot possibly justify them)?
If he will not, can he tell me why he repeatedly makes this baseless suggestion?
Mr Jacubs continues “Just let us assume the worst of Bomber Command and Churchill and Harris.”
I reply: Who assumes this or is asked to assume it? Bomber Command can be taken to include all those who served in it. Once again, I stress my admiration for the men who flew, and my sorrow at their loss, and my refusal to blame them for the decisions of their superiors.
Here are the words I used on 30th June 2012, in my Mail on Sunday column reproduced here:
‘Now that we have a memorial at last to the thousands of men who flew and died in Bomber Command, can we please cart away the ugly statue of that unpleasant man Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris, GCB, OBE, AFC?
I am lost in admiration for those crews. I do not know how, night after night, they left all that was dear to them, climbed into a cramped and freezing death-trap and set off into the dark. Nearly half of them would die horribly, and they knew it.
The death rate was an appalling 44 per cent – 55,573 of the very best, brightest and bravest young men in Britain, the Commonwealth and the Allied countries gone for ever, and our ill-led, sloppy and declining country has felt their loss every day since. Heaven knows it is time their sacrifice, and the equal bravery of those who survived, was marked. A medal would be nice, too.’
So I ‘assume the worst’ of people whose courage I praise, for whom I say I am ‘lost in admiration’ and for whom I urge the award of a medal? (see also ‘absolute loathing’ above).
Even in the case of Sir Arthur Harris, I am not ‘absolute’ but commend his (undoubted) bravery when he was a fighting flyer, and his honesty. (‘Absolute loathing’ would surely not permit such feelings).
My views on Churchill (many times stated, here repeated) are that he was quite right to continue the war in June 1940 and deserves his place in history for doing so. This is a completely separate question from whether we should have entered the war when we did. A surrender at that stage in 1940(after the defeat of France, and Dunkirk) would have been very wrong and disastrusly dangerous. Once you have started a war, you have to keep fighting until you win.
On this particular subject, the ‘Area Bombing’ policy I think most dispassionate observers would accept that Churchill was less than straightforward about it, and Harris himself felt let down by his Premier, who originally supported the policy but later rather sidled away from it. But as it was not his central or supreme achievement ( as it *was* Harris’s central and supreme achievement) it would be wrong to judge Churchill solely on this episode, so I do not. It certainly detracts from the absurd worship which has been accorded to him, but so do lots of things. He was not perfect.
I think the evidence is growing that Mr Jacubs does not actually read what I write, or hear what I say - but misreads and mishears it through a mist of fury. This, as in so much misunderstanding, is caused by his own grave doubts (which any decent person must have) about the deliberate bombing of civilians in their homes. He needs to suppress these doubts so that he can continue to adhere to our great national pseudo-religion ‘We Won the War’ and its central belief in the ‘Finest Hour’ an in the unalloyed goodness of 'our sde' which inconveniently included the mass murderer Stalin. And it is very common for those who suffer from doubts, and fight agaisnt them, to become very angry when others express those same doubts. I understand this. I even sympathise with it. But I cannot allow him, on this basis, to misrepresent me here unchallenged.
Mr Jacubs continues: ‘ Let us believe they [by which I assume he means Bomber Command, Harris and Churchill] were the murdering monsters he says they were.’
I reply: Where have I used the expression ‘murdering monsters’ or anything like it? If Mr Jacubs is going to say that I *said* this, he needs to substantiate the attribution, or withdraw it.
Mr Jacubs continues: ‘When one thinks of atrocities committed by most other countries why does he keep picking on the one devastating campaign by the Allies which I don't doubt considerably shortened the war?’
I reply: ‘Does he really not grasp that it is precisely because this wrong deed was done by my own country’s government and armed forces that I have a duty to acknowledge and criticise it, if I think it to be wrong *on principle*, as I do? It is on the basis of that same principle that I condemn all such things. What would he think of a modern-day German (or Russian) who refused to condemn the long list of misdeeds he produces below? Do these wickednesses in any way cancel out the wrongness (if it was wrong, and I believe it was, and I haven’t seen him explain why it wasn’t) of our deliberate killing of German civilians? How does this happen? What is the moral system which enables them to do so? If they don’t, and if each deed stands on its own, then the wrongness of the others has no effect on the wrongness of our bombing. In general, in working out what my position is, he may assume that I am against the deliberate killing of civilians in war on principle, whoever does it? If he is not on principle against this (and he appears not to be) then what is his objection to these deeds when done by others? On what consistent moral code (there is no other sort) is it based?
As for his saying he doesn’t doubt that the Harris campaign significantly shortened the war he may not doubt it, but plenty of other people (many of them military historians) do. His assertion is of no value without justification. What is his evidence for this effect? By how long does he think it shortened the war, and why? He must, in considering this question, ask what the effect on the length of the war would have been if (for instance) Bomber Command resources had been switched to the Battle of the Atlantic, or switched earlier than 1944 to the targeting of military and industrial targets rather than to killing civilians? Or if proper efforts had been made to develop long-range fighter escorts allowing effective daylight bombing, as was eventually done?
He asks :’What about the more than twenty million Soviet civilians massacred by Germans during operation Barbarossa? The Russian massacre of over 20,000 Poles at Katyn Forest? The massacre of thousands of German civilians by the Poles in 1939? The German massacre of over 200,000 Poles in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. The German massacre of more than 200,000 Czechs during the occupation. The more than 30,000 German civilians massacred by the Czechs in reprisals. The German massacre of French civilians at Tulle and Oradour village France 1944. The German massacre of Serbs to please their Nazi Croat friends. I nearly forgot the unimportant massacre of 67,000 Brits by the Luftwaffe. Last but God forbid surely not least the brutal murder of six million Jews and Gypsies in the Holocaust. As well he knows I could go on for ever quoting German atrocities in WW2. Where does one stop?’
I reply : I have partly answered this above. Is he suggesting in some way that I do not condemn these dreadful killings? He had better not be suggesting that. (Though I am, as it happens, unaware of the massacre of Germans by Poles in 1939 which he includes in his list, or of the massacre of 30,000 Germans by Czechs, unless he is referring to the Potsdam expulsions. Perhaps he could provide a reference).
Mr Jacubs continues: ‘As far as I know he's not yet lambasted the US for their B29 bombing of Tokio which killed four times as many as died in Dresden. He does of course love to mention everyone's pet war subject namely the atom bombing of Japan's two cities which together killed less civilians than the all the B29 raids.’
I reply : What is the significance of the numbers here? I am unequivocally against all deliberate killing of civilians. The Tokyo bombing just hasn't happened to have come up. I don’t ’love to mention’ any of these things. As I grow ever closer to my own grave, and what lies beyond it, I am increasingly troubled by all these things, some of which I blithely accepted when I was younger. I responded to a question on my attitude ( as I respond to his implied question above). In fact I write about this matter as a reluctant duty, knowing full well that I shall receive letters and attacks of the kind he produces, often in very wounding terms, and knowing that, if I attempt to discuss the matter with the authors of these epistles, I will seldom encounter reason or generosity in return. I don't have to do this. I do it because it is the truth.
Mr Jacubs continues: ‘Twenty two million German military plus millions more in war industry and the civil service equalled about half the German population and he criticises us for doing our best to annihilate them? They tried to kill me and my family and nearly succeeded when they destroyed 3 neighbouring houses killing all the occupants.’
I reply : This passage is quite incoherent. What I clearly criticise ( and what George Bell clearly criticised) is the deliberate policy of targeting German civilians in their homes. I do not attack the deliberate killing of enemy soldiers in battle. It is vital to war. I sadly accept the inevitability of unintended civilian casualties in modern war. I accept the legitimacy of attacking German command centres and ministries.
I would criticise anyone for trying to ‘do their best to annihilate’ the population of any nation. The annihilation of peoples is plainly in and of itself wrong. I think there is a word for it. Does Mr Jacubs really know what he is saying, or has the emotional mist of his intolerant, doubt-filled fury become too dense?
He says ‘they’ tried to kill me and my family’. Who is this *they*? A woman and her children in Hamburg or Dresden, baked, suffocated or burned to death? Did they try to kill Mr Jacubs and his family? Hardly. The people who tried to do this thing were Hitler and Goering, and the airmen they ordered to do it. We can argue about the responsibility of the airmen, but even they would not have disputed the fairness in war of our trying to kill them and shoot them down when they acme to bomb us. But how in any way does that justify the killing of civilians in their homes in a distant German city?
Mr Jacubs is (in my view rightly) appalled by the method of war which was used against him and his neighbours. He says :’ They tried to kill me and my family and nearly succeeded when they destroyed 3 neighbouring houses killing all the occupants.’
I agree with him that this was a horrible thing. That is exactly why I think it was wrong for us to do the same. (And not just the same. We did far more. There was no equivalent of the bombing of Hamburg and Dresden in England, thank Heaven) . I cannot see how he can simultaneously become emotional about the horror of this attack, and not see that if it is wrong for others to do it to us, it is wrong for us to do it to others.
Mr Jacubs asks: ‘ Also at war's end who did the survivors rush to be with? The Soviets or the British and Americans? ‘
Well, what of it? What does it prove? The Soviets were our allies, without whom we could not have defeated Hitler, and whom we consciously permitted to undertake the main invasion of Germany and the consequent occupation of its lands, and of the rest of Eastern Europe., in some cases handing to Red Army control areas which the Americans had in fact captured.
The fact that refugees preferred to rush into the arms of us rather than of our allies says little about our cause. The refugees from our bombing simply rushed away from it (sometimes carrying the baked corpses of their children with them in suitcases, as they had gone mad during the bombing we had inflicted on them). The German refugees from the Red Army, likewise, were fleeing, from something, not to something. Civilians caught in war would all rathr be able to stay in their homes, if only they could. It is hardy a great testimonial that they flee in misery and woe in one direction or another. Some of those refugees, including the Cossacks, we handed to the Soviets, knowing they would murder or enslave them.
And he concludes with a series of charges: Mr Jacubs: ‘He and all the other bloody re-writers of history make me sick to my stomach.’
Me: I have ‘re-written’ nothing’ . I have reproduced reputable historical accounts of events, in support of my arguments about contemporary events, principally the opening of the Bomber Command memorial.
Mr Jacubs :’He waits until years after the war when nearly all surviving combatants are dead then sets about denigrating those that gave him the gift of life and the freedom to be a journalist.’
Me: The suggestion here is that I have secretly harboured this view and waited till men are dead before daring to say it. This is not true. I have written openly of my view on this, since I formed it. I have, as a result, been subject to a great deal of anger and abuse by survivors of the war.
Mr Jacubs finishes with this suggestion :’ He should go back to the States and pull their veterans to pieces. He will have a harder ride there.’
Me: Once again he returns to his falsehood that I have criticised ‘veterans’. It is the politicians and commanders that I have attacked, and quite specifically and explicitly not the veterans. I think he knows this, but is too consumed with anger to recognise it. But he has absolutely no excuse for repeating it in future. By the way, I don’t quite know why he urges me to go ‘back’ to the USA. Does he think I am an American?