John Pilger explains the background to his new film 'Utopia' and describes how little has changed since his first film about indigenous Australia in 1985, 'The Secret Country'.

"When i made my first film about indigenous Australia in 1985, 'The Secret Country', I never thought that in 2013 I'd be making another film... and saying, in effect, so little had changed. Indeed, when we were making some of 'Utopia' we actually confused some of the old footage with the new - same shacks, same children with distended bellies and the same sense of a denial of justice..."