The pre election campaign has begun. Regardless of the Senate's actions both leaders have hit the airwaves to sell their message. And what does former prime minister Tony Abbott think?
How will Turnbull keep peddling the lies that the ABCC improved productivity and OHS when the exact opposite is true.
Tones would relish all that mendacity but can the Toff do it?
Commenter
KY
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:57PM
C'mon Abbott, we're waiting for your next comment, everyone knows you can't help yourself
Commenter
Former Lib
Location
Point Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:45PM
There are two chioces in this election One hard working horse Shorten or a Show pony Turncoat..
Commenter
Grumpy nana
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:34PM
Vote 1 Moderate Rationalist Party.
You know you want to.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:27PM
It's the NLP you're having when you're not having the NLP.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:30PM
Thought it was the Moderate and Democratic (MAD) party
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:32PM
Which states are you running in?
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:32PM
... or rather the LNP you're having when you're not having the LNP.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:33PM
How can you be a "moderate" rational?
Slogan: "A rational choice is the best choice but we'll only make it sometimes"
Great work.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:34PM
Emu, Australia is getting sick of Claytons government.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:46PM
#Emu - NLP was more relevant to Tony and his repetition of three word slogans.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 3:07PM
Where are the crims? "Total construction activity in 2014 was valued at $204.5 billion, in real (inflation-adjusted) volume terms. Engineering construction was the largest sector (56.1% of all construction activity in 2014) followed by residential building (26.6%) and non-residential building (17.2%).
The five years to 2012 saw the volume of total construction work done increase by $71.3b, implying an average annual growth rate of 16.2%. $68.3b worth of this increase was in engineering construction, in line with the substantial investment phase of the mining boom which led to historically high levels of activity in infrastructure and resources related construction. The mining investment boom saw the annual value of construction peak at $213b in 2012 "
All of that growth and profit and no crims and strikes to speak of? Can someone tell Malcolm?
Commenter
Pen of hrba
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:26PM
Yeah whatever. What about the fuel guzzling SUV? Pen - surely you can answer this simple question.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:32PM
Has the PM been to South Melb or South East Qld in the past few years ? Every time you visit there's another appartment building been constructed. It's hard to see them from Canberra or the Eastern Suburbs bus !
Commenter
Rod
Location
the Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:51PM
Can't wait for all the pollies to flock to Rooty Hill RSL thinking Western Sydney holds the golden ticket to the lodge. Sure didn't help Julia in 2013. Can wait to see Shorten rocking up in flatbed holden ute chanting slogans like it's 1984 with his flannelette shirt.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:22PM
And Mal can turn up in a steam engine seeing the LNP live in the 1920s
Commenter
DirkDiggler
Location
LNPHQ
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:25PM
RDN in his turtleneck. Mal in his Angora cardigan.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:26PM
Tony in his budgies
Commenter
Former Lib
Location
Point Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:48PM
That car ad that keeps popping up looks like Di Natale's monster fuel guzzling SUV. Oh dear, pen and the climate change brigade have just found their next denier. Leader of their party. WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:16PM
He tried to buy a HFC vehicle, but the forward thinkers in the LNP decided that petrol is the future? Despite HFC vehicles taking off elsewhere.
Commenter
Pen of hrba
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:29PM
Pen = Denier.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:33PM
Cormann is a joke. What a ridiculous statement. Clearly jumping the shark is now LNP policy. No mention of the head of the ASX having to resign. The Abbott/Turnbull government disintegration continues unabated.
Commenter
No more waffles I'm full
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:13PM
Cormann is obviously judging the intelligence of the voter by his own standards.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:23PM
Despite what Turnbull says, it is a tony the truthless election. Turnbull hasn't put up any meaningful policies and even the NBN under his watch went over budget, over schedule while delivering a poorer technical solution.
I haven't seen anything that Turnbull has done that will change the 20% plus swing against him that occurred in the Hockey by-election. Perhaps if he had actually put up tax reforms that he promised when coming into power it would be different - but he didn't. In fact, he hasn't done much of anything other than to promise to be more agile (perhaps that is why he is rushing the election?) and putting up TV adds saying go girls. All fluff and no substance.
Even the timing of the election seems to have been an Abbott like thought bubble considering his Treasurer didn't know about it. How is that for consultation?
This calling the election early looks a bit desperate to me. It looks like he is trying to get back in before people realise he doesn't really stand for much, doesn't have any original ideas and is following in Abbott's foot steps. He truly is a marshmallow PM.
Commenter
Lance
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:12PM
2.03 pm? The new 5.00 pm knock off time.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:09PM
Its a Union site.
Commenter
mmmm
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:21PM
Turnbull time, manana.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:49PM
You should get out more. If you've ever stayed in a city hotel. You'll know they start very early.
Commenter
Rod
Location
the Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 3:06PM
Hacka, there seems to be a sense of anger and frustration with Turnbull's political master class lesson. The progressives think it's all solved by going to a Western Sydney pokie barn and then getting the north shore ladies together for a knitting session. Times have changed, Australia has moved on from the 2007-2013 debacle.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:08PM
It's moved on EiE, but not for the better
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:31PM
Neither leaders will be around long enough to see out their elected term regardless of who wins. The political machine in Beijing will decided who runs Australia so the whole purpose of having a general election is redundant. Money speaks loader than your vote does!
Commenter
Real DC
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:06PM
You're a little early on that call. Australia is still strategically too important to the US to let another nation decide how it's run.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:18PM
Does China make the F35?
Commenter
Pen of hrba
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:32PM
Ok, what's been going on. Oh deary me Shorten has gone back to the 1950's with his Unionist style mantra. Go on Bill - you go on strike and then observe that nobody noticed you were missing.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:05PM
1950s mantra would surely attract your vote. As usual Bill is on a winner.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:16PM
1950's Bill is a bit better than the 1930's ABCC legislation.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:17PM
12.19pm .Xenophon... So this means we could have a election in July or September , a six month election campaign , god help us...
Commenter
Old Aged Pensioner
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:05PM
Perhaps Tony and few others including Eric Abetz and Corey Bernardi could set up another party in time for the election. It would be able to woo the right wing voters who seldom get their say and their way. I suggest the call it the SRP. The Seldom Right Party has quite a ring to it.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:05PM
They could all meet together in the pod. Nice. Cosy.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:18PM
Remove Abbott and add Christensen and Kevin Andrews
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:26PM
56 high earning millionaires paid no, or little tax. This is what the election is all about. The ongoing battle of the Cons to preserve all they hold dear to them. Money.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:02PM
fizzy,
Did they pay tax under Labor?
Commenter
The Sniper
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:15PM
Go back two and a half years in your time machine and find out. To continually bleat out the tired old blame Labor is wearing thin. We are on Turnbull time now, temporarily.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:36PM
1:49 - not to mention that the construction industry employs more than 1 million Australians.
Of course it should be managed to ensure it operates cleanly and as efficiently as possible.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:55PM
How many people does the finance industry employ? of it should be managed effectively. Lets have a Royal Commission into it.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:14PM
Including, inter alia, making sure Builders comply with OH&S, not employ people full time as Contractors to avoid paying entitlements and making a fund available for suppliers when builders suddenly Phoenix their Company and start afresh owing tens of thousands?
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:23PM
EiE, perhaps the MT can promote his election campaign by looking at how well they've done on the No 1 priority of TA; debt and deficits.... oh wait a minute! or No 2 priority Carbo emissions, oh wait a minute Direct Action is failing there or No 3 priority, a new faster cheaper NBN; oh wait a minuet!
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:51PM
Econorat, calm down. You accuse me of not believing in man made climate change when I've never given a position on it one way or the other.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:12PM
3 strikes and they are OUTA HERE!
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:17PM
EiE By your very statement here, which ridicules the idea that the science of man-made climate change is not settled, ergo it's not 'real'
"Pen, have you calculated the impact of Di Natale's fuel guzzling SUV on climate change - particularly sea level rises. The science is settled isn't it?"
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:27PM
Econorat, I simply point out the hypocrisy of the left. Case closed.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:42PM
1.49 watch that nose grow Corrman.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:50PM
These 72 Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighters have been called “jackass of all trades and masterful of none” in the Senate Inquiry currently being held by the head of Air Power Australia .
Air Power Australia is an independent think tank.
Two other groups disagree with this idea, the The Sir Richard Williams Foundation and the Australian Strategic Policy Institute think its the best thing since sliced bread.
Only thing is theyre sponsered by Lockheed Martin.
Funny that...
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:47PM
I'm surprised you haven't had a call from Magnifico demanding the Ex's sky video be taken down. Stealing ones thunder.....still.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:46PM
Haven't seen the leader of the Greens today. Has Richard Di Natale ducked for cover? It is duck season you know and he sees himself as a protected species unlike the endangered independent senators.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:37PM
He's on TV right now doing a rather long interview from Melbourne.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:13PM
@Quick Comment. Where else? Good coffee in Melbourne. Richard likes the finer things.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:25PM
@Pluto: I don't know why you're directing that comment to me.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:42PM
Nick X, the biggest favour you could do for Oz is to have Mathrew Wright roll Pyne. Ther'd be dancing in the streets. Oh and if Marie Rowland could only roll the Ex.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:28PM
Have a thought for Sir Robert Menzies gazing down and watching the 'new fella' and his incompetent Ministers slowly wrecking the once proud Party that Sir Robert founded. The current cop of members seem to have completely abandoned the principles that Sir Robert had instituted in his formation of the Party. Sorry, Sir Robert, but eventually someone in the future, will understand the principles that you set and will reform your Party back to where it should be.
Commenter
DukeofWoyWoy
Location
Central Coast NSW
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:14PM
I am sure even Menzies would have fought against the ABCC's measures to reverse the onus of proof and abandon the right to silence. For all the Coalition's talk of respecting our British legal traditions they're willing to give them away for a song.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:21PM
I would like to know, what does all this "new fella, old fella, big fella, little fella" and in general this term all things "fella" mean?
It is very cheesy.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:25PM
Duke, are you alluding to the fact that he called it the 'Liberal' Party rather than the Conservative Party, or the Religious Fringe Right Party?
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:31PM
First order of the day will be some cowtowing followed up by the ever reliable forelock tugging. Also see if our wartime foes are interested in some more pig iron?
hang on we're not at war...
Commenter
Max
Location
Newcastle
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:43PM
Sure..1,2,3. OK that's enough thinking about the Ming Dynasty. Labor isn't following the same principles it first adopted and is less representative of workers of Australia than ever. T
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:48PM
1948
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:50PM
@Fizzybeer 1:50pm Yep 1948, a good year, the first time I got in trouble at school for being insolent, me insolent, nev v v ver!!!!
Commenter
DukeofWoyWoy
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:36PM
Let's have the ABCC back in but let it be the Australian Banking Collusion Commission.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:10PM
Lambie: "This is not the way to play politics. And as for my seat, that is up to the people of Tasmania and if they don't want me up here keeping the bastards honest then they'll get rid of me. If that's what they want from me then I'll be safe."
How did such a gravelly bogan get to the Senate? Preference harvester. Jackie fails to understand that Tasmanians never actually wanted here there in the first place.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:00PM
"How did such a gravelly bogan get to the Senate? "
The same could be said of fundamentalist bible thumpers like Bernardi or Abetz.
As much as I can't stand Lambie, she has every right to be in the Senate as anyone else.
Commenter
Mr Burns
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:28PM
For that matter, housemartin, how did Michaelia Cash ever get to the Senate? She attracted fewer first preference votes than Jacqui Lambie, and I find her voice more offensive than Jacqui's.I really prefer not to cast my votes on the basis of social class.
Commenter
Banjo
Location
Eden
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:33PM
That's a rather glib statement to make all the way from HK. I bet you wouldn't be saying that if she backed the government's ABCC bill.
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:44PM
Charming. As usual.
Cheers.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:45PM
Same could be asked how did that bogan Abbott ever get a job let alone be PM!
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:04PM
Ah! this is the first time I've ever said this - spot on, housemartin!
Commenter
MM
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:15PM
I bet a lot of Liberals don't want Corey Bernadi but unfortunately or them he occupies a high place on their ticket. Like Lambie did with PUP. Try and keep up with the system if you are going to comment on it.
How many direct votes do you think Core got anyway? Surely he got more than Cashs 500 or so.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:27PM
I hope i've made your day dave?
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:32PM
stevek: I'm curious, how does my comment coming from HK make a difference> I vote.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:42PM
Reek: yes, I guess a Law degree and a Rhodes Scholarship would make him a bogan wouldn't it?
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:44PM
12.54pm A toff is a toff is a toff!
Commenter
Ruth
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:59PM
12:54 - ain't love grand. Happy anniversary Malcolm.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:56PM
Ah, 12:54. For one mad moment I thought you were referring to 12:32...
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:28PM
So he's the son of a Salmon. I knew there was something fishy about Malcolm.
Commenter
Bulletproof Monk
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:37PM
How innovative it is to have continuity and change as we transition into a good government thats open and honest and made up of adults. No more 3 word slogans instead we will have only deep and meaningful policies and thought bubbles that go bang when theyre found to be full of hot air.
Labor to the Left of me, Snipers to the Right, here I am, Muddled in the middle with you.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:56PM
That's it Bill keep learning to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:55PM
Maybe Tones could use some gum?
MT would like him to be busy chewing rather than causing distractions, or should that be disruptions
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:35PM
Bit of respect for our next PM.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:46PM
Love your work dave. 3 thumbs up.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:45PM
Jackie Lambert made a very pertinent point on last night's Q & A. She's seen the secret documents (which the opposition wasn't allowed to view) and says there is nothing in it which the police can't handle. So all this hype about needing the ABCC is just BS. Even the person representing the business sector says that ABSS is not high on the business agenda as there other more important issues to tackle.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:48PM
Photo 9:04 (yes a bit late)
Hey you guys know my political leanings but that photo op was the worst idea since Harold Holt looked at the surf one day and thought "Yeah, let's give that a crack".
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:48PM
Poor Tony - will he take responsibility for any LNP seats lost at the next election ? Of course not - he seeks credit but will rebuff any blame. Poor Loser.
Commenter
MST
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:43PM
We need every major media outlet to hound Abbott for comment right up to July 2nd. Abbotts self interest above Australia's interest will guarantee the right outcome
Commenter
Former Lib
Location
Point Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:42PM
I hope this government goes to the people on its record: * much higher unemployment since it was elected. * FTA's that killed off Australian vehicle manufacturing and other industries. * Budget deficit out of control *Monthly balance of trade deficits out of control * consumer confidence down * ASC couldn't build a conoe and still no word on what foreign made submarine we're going be lumbered with * The far right tail wagging the government dog * Total disunity and dysfunction * A leader who hasn't the guts or intellect to do anything
Just to name a few
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:41PM
...blockheaded recalcitrance (bordering on negligence) on the issue of climate change.
Commenter
Sandy Earlugs
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:27PM
Senators protect yourself and pass the bill. I want to see what Turnbull does then.we have had a double disillusionment for the last 2.5 years . Abbott and Turnbull.
Commenter
kbf
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:36PM
Malcolm gives Tony full credit for his successes, yes Mal so much credit you gave him a nice long holiday!!!!!! These Liberals just cannot stop lying.
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:36PM
So if Malcolm thinks Tones was successful then why did he knife him?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:00PM
Well if you are a politician and you've got a knife, at some stage you have to give it a practice run.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:21PM
now, now BB, none of that nasty, violent language will be tolerated
Commenter
sybella
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:34PM
On the topic of long election campaigns, does Shorten recall the "days of governing" and "days of campaigning" speech by Gillard, followed by her hitting the campaign trail 2 nanoseconds later?
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:35PM
So you are telling us that Malcolm is more interested in campaigning than governing?
Thanks Sandra with the late news.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:37PM
And the relevance????????????????
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:39PM
I think the relevance is pretty obvious. Shorten was mocking the election timeframe even though the government he was part of had a much longer one?
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:01PM
Shouldn't the headline read Turnbull, Shorten and Abbott hit the campaign trail?
Commenter
RTP
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:33PM
Hilarious... EiE is 100% certain there is no man-made climate change.
yet his beloved LNP have Direct Action to combat exactly that.
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:32PM
E-rat - eie is 100% certain about many things.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:45PM
Not much "combat" happening with that one. It's a $$$2 & 1/2 billion figleaf policy.
I hope the people are reminded often over the next 103 days just how hopeless this government are on the issue of climate change and renewable energy.
Commenter
Sandy Earlugs
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:51PM
I didn't think there were any of those left. Oh there might be a few heretics, claiming to be Christians, in America who might be stupid enough to think there is no such as man made climate change.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:58PM
Sandy Earlugs: Are people still banging on about that old chestnut cloimate choinge? I mean really, the deathly silence post Paris where once again nothing was achieved and Chiquita Bill's utter silence on his 50% clean energy target (no, don't laugh it's true, he said it) all point to the old great scare and doomsday theory having had it's day.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:00PM
A great start to the 15 week zombie election campaign. Turnbull & Abbott trading barbs. I love it.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:29PM
I always thought that putting Mal in the job was a cynical stunt. Really Tony is still PM (we didn't elect Mal) and calling the shots; and the DD is also a stunt. Mal thinks that by pulling this stunt we will suddenly regard him as real PM material. Not likely.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:50PM
Abbott will ensure he does everything to see Turnbull lose the next election because that is called revenge, revenge stems from animosity and Tony Abbott's whole philosophy of politics is based on animosity and stirring up animosity in those he sees could assist him in attacking those he sees as enemies. In my opinion what is necessarily good for our nation always comes a distant second in the Abbott agenda.
Commenter
RTP
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:25PM
Abbott will ensure he does everything to see Turnbull lose the next election. Why is this such a bad thing?
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:59PM
IT's not but it say it all about Tony Abbott and those in the parliament who still back him.The me before all else attitude that permeates the Liberal Party has never been so evident.
Commenter
RTP
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:04PM
RTP, Abbott thinks revenge is a dish best served steaming hot.
Australian politics is beginning to resemble a Jacobean revenge tragedy, with bodies all over the stage.
Commenter
Banjo
Location
Eden
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:14PM
['...the Liberal Party is at war with itself."]
I hate war; I want peace.
I'm a liar.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:16PM
11:44am "Continuity and change" huh? Seems that MT is not only relying on the Abbott policy legacy but also the 3-word slogan stratgey
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:09PM
More than that stevek, Turnbull's trying to position himself as an incarnation of Howard, just as Abbott did.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:09PM
Looks like the independents aren't budging, can't wait to see them off!
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:07PM
Why?
Because they have average working class principles.
Typical.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:27PM
They won't be going anywhere soon. Even if a DD goes ahead, there will be about the same number of independents elected and besides that the current crop finish their term in July next year.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:31PM
The Karma police are usually pretty good with those that try to play the system.
Oh it always seems to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone.....
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:39PM
No, because I'm sick and tired of smug, self-important independents not passing legislation until their one pet issue is addressed.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:44PM
....they bleached the Great Barrier Reef, put up a parking lot.
Commenter
Sandy Earlugs
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:48PM
Lucky they were there otherwise we would see $100K+ degrees with Christopher Pyne's education policy!
Commenter
Adrian
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:54PM
Care to address what each cross benchers pet issue is and when they have raised it?
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:30PM
So let's get this right - Turnbull has passed 104 bills since last September (80% from the Abbott era).
The Gillard government passed about 500 in three years, and its defenders haven't stopped crowing about it.
So the Turnbull government has been more effective in passing bills pro-rata than Gillard, largely thanks to Abbott.
Perhaps good government has been with us all along, if bills passed is the benchmark.
PS i wonder how many of those have been supported by the likes of Lambie and Lazarus.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:07PM
Might have jumped the gun there - the question is how many of the introduced bills were actually passed.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:30PM
So why in the jellyfish so sooky about stuff not getting passed. You can't have it both ways.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:32PM
Correction actually, he introduced 104 bills. 104 bills weren't passed.
Commenter
T
Location
St Kilda
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:36PM
Unlike you to jump the gun @H.
Jump the shark maybe.....
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:38PM
I heard differently Hacka - that there were the same 104 policies and that only a few had been passed.
Best provide your source so we can check.
Commenter
PEarn
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:41PM
Hacka 101
104 bills "introduced" not passed Hacka are you reverting back to Hacka 2013? Just massaging the facts hey
Commenter
I was there too
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:45PM
And able to admit my mistakes too dave. You should try it sometime :-)
Do we know how many of those 104 were passed ?
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:47PM
Hacka, Gillard had to negotiate every bill she passed not only with the Senate, but also the House of Representatives. So yes, she ran a much more effective ship than Abbott, who couldn't do so well even with a majority in the House. As for comparisons to Turnbull, maybe if Gillard had a majority government we could properly make them, but we can't really.
As for whether this Turnbull government counts as a good government, I'd say absolutely not. No viable economic policy, no control of his own members, he let's them snipe at each other and himself and does nothing, he will even let schoolchildren hear one of his own members compare an anti-bullying program designed to protect them to grooming by paedophiles and he will do nothing to either defend the program or reprimand the member who made the comment.
Commenter
Hush
Location
Wollongong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:52PM
So how does that make the Senate a shambles Hacka ?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:58PM
Let them have their "number of bills passed" brag. An achievement that is purely quantitative works when the government ruins everything it touches.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:05PM
Buff - I'm trying to get some facts from the APH website but no joy yet.
Hush - Gillard had Windsor and Oakeshott as lackeys, and with the Greens she owned the Senate. Your post seems to ignore those facts.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:14PM
adrian - yes, as we've always said, the number of bills doesn't mean much, the quality does.
But I'd still be curious on the current stats, given how much some people have carried on about bills passed.
It's a bit tricky trying to get a current snapshot of the bills passed from the APH website, not sure if Stephanie knows how ?
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:27PM
Hacka, yes, Gillard was able to negotiate with Windsor and Oakshot and the Greens. Key word there is negotiate. There is nothing wrong with negotiating. If Abbott were able to negotiate, he might have passed more bills - instead, he opted for the his way or the highway option, as seems to be the road Turnbull is taking also.
Negotiating is a part of good government. Those who win elections need to govern for everyone, both those who voted for them and those who didn't. That's something both Abbott and Turnbull need to learn.
Commenter
Hush
Location
Wollongong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:28PM
Hacka
Could you not look at the assented bills over a range?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:31PM
The Pulse 12:02Pm
Abbott wants to be the virtual debater.
Turnbull hands him a dial up modem.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:04PM
LOL @ A Green. 10 points for that one!
Commenter
Jump
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:08PM
Not much comment, read none from the Govt on Kupper quiting. Oh but wait, the Cambodian Refugee deal....
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:00PM
Well hallelujah, it's official, no less than the Federal Parliamentary Library has confirmed what many of us have been saying for some time, A vote for Turnbull is a vote for the overwhelming majority of Tory policy under Abbott. Anticipated as an agent of change and champion of centrist policy, Turnbull's greatest achievement appears to be the calling of a double dissolution. Let's hope voters don't make the right wing conservative Tory mistake twice.
Commenter
Perk Cartel
Location
Westgarth
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:59AM
EIE you never fail to amuse...I think Malcolm in the middle will be under fire from all fronts, his own party, Tony Abbott (saviour of the Ukraine) and then the Godwin Grech affair along with many of Malcolm's pasts incarnations, no doubt Goldman Sachs will get an airing - you know that bank that sent Greece down the Swanee
Commenter
SanchoP
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:58AM
George Brandis has been making some points about the ABCC bill. He claims that productivity in the building industry has dropped.
It might be a good time to introduce some stricter laws for businesses that are dealing with our lifesavings
The upside could be more investemnt in our financial institutions
Commenter
Rod
Location
the Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:57AM
The continuity meaning "we can't get rid of him"!
Commenter
Ruth
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:54AM
Turnbull is only talk talk and no walk. Be it Republicanism, Environmental protection or LGBT rights. Will I vote for the liberal Govt again? Hell -NO!!
Commenter
Andy
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:53AM
i predict Australian people fed up with both major parties at coming election. Greens will sweep balance of power in both houses and Di Natale as Deputy PM in the next government.
Commenter
happy gilmore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:53AM
Tell him his dreaming Simply not going to happen
Commenter
Brettie
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:19PM
While being happy, you're so happy, you don't think you might be being a little optomistic?
The Greens may end up with two in the House; 8, maybe 9, in the Senate.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:49PM
Round two of the Puncher versus the Parrier. All eyes on the prize. Meanwhile the economy slides.
Succinct, funny and intelligent. The Leigh Sales interview revealed Turnbull at his most patronising and this morning Michael Brissenden was brave enough to point out Turnbulls beholden to the hard right of his party. Turnbull looked old and squirmed when Brissenden said 'People know who Abbott is but they don't know who Malcolm Turnbull is'.
103 days to the election. By that time Australians will loathe this Turnbull/Abbott LNP even more than they do today.
tick tock tick tock
Commenter
misspunch
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:51AM
Hacka, eie
You need to be careful who you support, if you are trying to change people's views.
No matter who you support, or who you bag - you are going against one of your future leaders. By saying that Abbott is not doing any wrong you don't appear to be supporting Turnbull. You can't have it both ways.
Commenter
PEarn
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:51AM
The Pulse ..... 11:44AM
The Pulse gets on the bandwagon with Australia laughing.
Credlin/Abbott/Turnbull govt "flummoxed".
Brandis says it ok to be a joke.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:49AM
I'm glad that brandis can laugh at himself, in reality,under these dills, the joke has been on the Australian people
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:44PM
140 year old Mccubbin painting has overtones of Abbott in his heyday.
Turnbull thinking of hanging one of them in his Office.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:46AM
Cmon Jacqui what's with the violent metaphors to explain what the government can do within the constitution to counter constant legislation blocking.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:43AM
Abbott forgets to mention cutting $3 billion from CSIRO.
Calls Press back for third conference today.
Media thinking of going on strike ....... would join Border Farce striking, but can't afford spiffy uniform and don't want to look dowdy beside them.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:43AM
Abbott calls Press conference.
Explains how good copayment of $7 will be for Medicare.
Private !
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:39AM
The Liberals have reduced state schools to the point that they are only able to produce adults who are able to do low paying jobs or to add to the dole queues.
The average state school student is two and one half years behind their private school peers.
Which is just as John Howard intended.
A cheap supply of labor for the CEO'S of our big business friends.
A perfect outcome, really.
Commenter
Good to Go
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:39AM
Where is the data that the average public school student is 2.5 (or any) years behind private school students? If you refer to the recent discussions on NAPLAN results, the comparisons were between 'advantaged' and 'disadvantaged' schools. While many of the former are private and the latter public, the school demographics (measured by the ICSEA scale on the MySchool website) is the major factor. At 'expenditure per student' (including both public and parental contributions) public schools significantly outperform privates. Of the 10 top academic achievers in the NSW HSC, 8 are public selectives (the 2 privates just make it). While I agree with thrust of your comment about the government neglecting public schools and favouring privates, the statement as is wrongly perpetuates the myth that private is better than public.
Commenter
bratman
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:30PM
Hmm Bronwyn Bishop is in the middle of a bad preselection fight in her electorate.
And shes losing.
Mike Baird,Nick Greiner and Amanda Vanstone have all come out in support for Jason Falinksi.
If she does the get boot can we expect a Nixonesque photo of her leaving her electorate waving from a helicopter?
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:37AM
That is delicious - lets hope the Warringah electorate follow suit.
Commenter
PEarn
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:34PM
@PEarn I do believe that Abbott already has pre-selection in Warringa.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:51PM
Turnbull govt going to election with Abbott policies.
Australia celebrates return of cricket bat.
Roosters yesterday, still feather dusters today.
Abbott appears on Credlin's Fox show and says it just like yesterday.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:37AM
Lambie and Muir - the new luvvy heroes. I suppose that after worshiping Rudd and then Gillard nothing is impossible. Live the dream.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:37AM
What is a luvvie?
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:54AM
EIE,
You are displaying outstanding agility around The Pulse today.
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:55AM
Buffalo
They have probably been offered a bonus to whip up a frenzy given its election time!!
Commenter
PEarn
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:28PM
No mention yet on whether Dear ex-Leader got an audience with HM.
Abbott seems to be spending a bit of time in the Old Dart of late.
I do hope Dolly's job isn't under threat; he's only been in it for some twenty months.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:36AM
He's there looking for something he lost.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:02PM
Looks like Shorten's Press Conference is like his Year of Ideas. Vanished into thin air.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:28AM
That's innovative EIE , which part of the table did you get that off?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:37AM
Its give and take. If it was covered then you would be accusing fairfax of bias for reporting more new ALP policies and consigning the stagnant Government to the dustbin of history.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:45AM
No where near as fizzled out as the Abbott/Turnbull promises of "dictating - oops I mean 'governing' for all Australians" or "no cuts to the ABC" or "no cuts to health" or "funding Gonski" or "reducing debt and deficit"...now there are some fizzers for you EIE.
Commenter
RobE
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:46AM
Your waffle eie, is so easy to dispute. Shorten has now 75 fully costed policies ready to go - climate change, funding gonski and NDIS, winding back the wealthy rorts.
Do tell? What are Turnbull's policies - not rehashed / reused ones - new policies that he has put forward?
Commenter
PEarn
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:47AM
Abbott for PM. I just like the idea of seeing him tossed out again by his comrades
Commenter
Never enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:55AM
Perhaps Chiquita Bill's in a supermarket somewhere putting his hand in someone's trolley.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:02PM
Looks like Paintgate was a fizzer.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:22AM
Are you suggesting the PM did something wrong?
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:24AM
Tony Abbott seems to be so full of himself that he would rather see his party loose the election and he returned as opposition leader. What ego that man has!
Commenter
Miss M of Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:21AM
Abbott wants his party to win the election but with a reduced majority, because that will be the end of Turnbull's majority party support and Abbott can then challenge to be Prime Minister again after the election.
Turnbull is being out-foxed by a master politcal player.
Commenter
guns to a knife fight
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:29AM
@ guns to a knike fight:
Interesting theory but even the Tories aren't silly enough to think that the a majority of the electorate would even again trust Abbott.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:02PM
J of GC, 44 Tories were "silly enough" to vote for Abbott at the leadership ballot which removed him (54 voted for Turnbull). The seat losses at the next election will be in the marginal seats i.e among the 54 who supported Turnbull. At the very least a correction is imminent for the Tories. If that correction is 10 seats or more Abbott will challenge.
Winning the trust of the electorate is not their main priority.
Commenter
guns to a knife fight
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:06PM
P.M Turnbull pins hopes on Heydon Royal Commission.
Australia still laughing.
Brandis uses same argument.
Australia rolling in the aisles.
Abbott says its all his.
Credlin brings laughter to Fox.
Coalition praised for giving Australia a good belly laugh.
next up .... Negative Gearing and how it keeps the Australian economy going.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:20AM
I liked Lambie's response in regard to the "Secret Volume"
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:45AM
@ACG that why it's "secret" nothing to see be embarrassing to make it public.
Commenter
Amro
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:58PM
Most Australians know that the kangaroo court headed by a government yes man is NOT the most import issue in the election. What was it again $80m+ for 5 being charged (not convicted) with some recommendations to flesh out the report. The the "secret report" which show that everything in it could be handled by the police. I'd trust Lambie before Brandis.
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:07PM
The luvvies are like a dog chasing its tail. Around and around in circles getting more and more dizzy. The luvvies got Palmer voted in with preferences then they hated Clive and his team. Now they love his ex team and the rev head guy. It's the whatever it takes Gillard mantra of selling out your principles to gain power. It's always expect the unexpected from the extreme far left. Just proves that they have no idea what and who they are supporting.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:19AM
What's a 'luvvie'? Is that anybody that's the opposite of a hardline conservative?
If so, does that make hardline conservatives 'haties'?
Commenter
T
Location
St Kilda
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:31AM
It's called democracy. Pop quiz - what do we need to do in a democracy? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? We need to negotiate. The Liberals and the Greens don't know how to negotiate so they just decided to dissolve parliament to get their way.
Commenter
blue and green
Location
should never be seen
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:33AM
Nope Palmer was elected ONLY because his name appeared above the LNP candidate(Palmer 7, Ted OBrien at 8. Non conservatives voted down the page after voting for their choice . Nice attempt at BS eioeio but I am calling you out.... again.
Commenter
Fairfax Srutineer QLD
Location
Coolum
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:38AM
Err tell us about Mal's stance on climate change and a carbon tax, his stance on SSM, why don't you tell us all the principles he sold out on to gain the top job. Honestly the nonsensical posts of a frantic LNP fan seeing the ship sink quicker under the new leader. When will the bring back Tony posts start.
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:41AM
reek: Frantic? I wouldn't think seeing the coalition stroll into an election victory with their eyes closed would exactly induce panic.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:04PM
Can anybody name me just one liberal politician in Canberra who is not a millionaire. Why should they try to bar others from representing the man in the street. We need an ex soldier, a motorist a worker etc to speak for us.
Commenter
barrie
Location
maryborough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:16AM
There's no shortage of military in the Cons, Duntroon Military though.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:23AM
@ACG. No he didn't. Even Duntroon has some standards.
Commenter
Double Disillusion
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:17PM
DD, Hastie, Newman ex Duntroon. Molan seeking preselection. Brough, Nicolic ex army.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:41PM
Can anyone name one liberal who has contributed anything useful to governing this country?
Commenter
The Lad
Location
4340
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:08PM
Still an exciting time to be a CFMEU member.
ACT Police drops investigation into Labor MLA Joy Burch's staff.
"Chief Police Office Rudi Lammers said no evidence of criminality was established."
The Credlin/Abbott/Turnbull govt "flummoxed".
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:16AM
What did big Kev say? Im excited,
Yet another exonerated through lack of evidence, seems to be a pattern here!
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:36AM
I will vote for anyone who can give me the NBN or just good internet. Stop the dodgy deals and just get on with it! By the way the Liberals suck! That is right I said it!
L I B E R A L S S U C K
Commenter
ByJingosbychrikey
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:13AM
Jingobychrikey
That would be 1 gigabit speed.
Humbly suggest you invest money in cryogenics and get them to wake you in 20 years.
Or put yourself to sleep by playing Turnbull's speeches.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:23AM
Opppss.
Control, Alt, Delete
That should fix it.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:23AM
Turnbull is yet to talk about any of the demands that his new Coalition partners the Greens will make on future policy formation.
Commenter
blue and green
Location
should never be seen
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:09AM
I imagine he's got other, more reality-based concerns on his mind.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:17AM
A most unusal marriage of inconvenience.
Di Natale really is poltical dilettante, getting into bed with the Tories.
In an interview yesterday, Bill Bowe thinks the Greens will lose one, possibly two Senate seats resulting from the amendment to the Electoral Act.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:26AM
I admit that, three years ago, I gave Ricky Muir no chance of having any impact on Parliament, and, as I remember, I was- uncharacteristically some would say- a little sarcastic about his election. He was an easy target, after all.
Humble pie time now, as he’s turned out to be one of the few politicians showing any backbone or principle.
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:04AM
+1, he'll do well in Vic
Turnbull's gibberish last night on 730 just reinforces that we need 'real people' in politics.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:10AM
Props to you, Gig'. but perhaps if he hadn't been gifted an opportunity by he Coalition he might never have had the chance to make a contribution.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:14AM
I agree! I laughed and pointed, but he has pleasantly surprised me.
Turnbull was the exact opposite. I was so happy when he took over...
Commenter
Oliver More
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:21AM
Malcolm Turnbull thinks he has outsmarted everyone with his political maneuvering, but he's only being outsmarted by one Anthony John "Tony" Abbott, Member for Warringah, who is salivating at the prospect of a Turnbull victory with a reduced majority enabling a chance to recontest the party leadership with more post-election support than Turnbull.
Commenter
guns to a knife fight
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:03AM
Treasurer ScoMo thanks god "Back to the Future" is only a movie and his Budget will be on 10 may.
Or 3 May.
ScoMo will know as soon as P.M. or god tells him.
Liberal Party all one happy family.
Apart from the 40 who signed George Christensen's inflammatory lost "Safe Schools" postcard.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:03AM
It's started. Kevin Rudd 2010 Mark II.
Abbott will do anything to prevent Turnbull winning the election even if it means Bill Shorten becoming PM.
Abbott & his disciples cannot be trusted. There will be leaks galore over the next few months.
Commenter
Shane
Location
Hammondville
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:02AM
Where is Plibersek? her electorate is a complete mess that she has carefully constructed for a number of years. She hasn't done one thing for Sydney.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:01AM
I tipped that the 'where is...' game would soon commence. And here it is. Yay.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:11AM
Likewise the whole LNP government all they have done is wrack up debt!!!!
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:13AM
Try calling her electorate office. They should know.
More silly questions.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:23AM
Another press conference from Shorten, let's see if he can make it through without whinging about something.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:59AM
Difficult, given the current government is sailing the majority of us up the creek with the proverbial paddle.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:08AM
Good stuff adrian, a whinge about a potential whinge.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:12AM
davemac, the difference is that I'm not trying to position myself as a future prime minister.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:59AM
Thank god.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:13PM
Will be glad to be rid of this log-jamming Senate, expect Turnbull to win the election ... but am disillusioned by the opportunism and two-faced behaviour of our pollies. Oz democracy is a shambles of a system.
Commenter
doubly disillusioned
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:59AM
No government since Gough Whitlam's has not had a majority in the Senate. The only exception is Howard for his last term and that led to his defeat. All of these governments managed to negotiate legislation through the Senate. What is it about this Abbott/Turnbull government that they cannot do what every previous government could?
Commenter
Peter Stanton
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:29AM
Baird govt to put up public transport fares.
P.M. no longer able to use public transport.
Abbott catches plane back to remind voters to vote for him.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:57AM
How many comments will EIE rack up today? A barometer of LNP disaster if I ever saw one.
Commenter
Barometric Barnacles
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:56AM
What's happened to climate change? I thought it was more important than SSM, SSP, Senate behavior. Will it have its turn tomorrow?
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:52AM
What happened to Government policy?
Oh thats right the only people important to them is themselves.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:55AM
eie,
i don't know. isn't that what Direct Action is all about?
or are you mocking LNP policy on this matter?
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:02AM
Sitting in the background ready to bury this worst government ever seen!
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:05AM
Come on eie, Is man-made climate change real or not.
You obviously believe 100% it is not real.
Then why do we have Direct Action as a policy?
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:05AM
Will the MRP abolish DA?
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:08AM
You better hope that the next election isn't about climate change - after all, Direct Action has actually seen emissions increase as well as costing the taxpayer. That's not even to mention that climate change is one of the areas that Turnbull had to sell to the conservative faction of his party to gain leadership.
He should have realised that his progressive policy positions were what made him popular. Without them now, his popularity is only diminishing.
Commenter
Hush
Location
Wollongong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:10AM
econorat: I'm very happy to mock the LNP on Direct Action as that old chestnut climate change is dead and buried, just look to the deathly silence post Paris and the fact that once again nothing was achieved except spending millions of tax dollars on good food and luxury living. Even Bill's gone completely silent on his 50% renewable (don't laugh) scheme.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:09PM
EiE: Yes, it's disappointing, I was hoping Bill's comedy routine on the 50% renewables policy was going to be a headline act at the election. Perhaps Bill's realising that the whole GW caravan has moved on and people have seen it for what it is, just another doomster theory that's simply passed away. I must admit though, the doomsters were great at extracting a shed load of dough out of it though.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 2:27PM
So most of the bill's from the 2014 Horror Budget are still on the table , thought Malcolm cleared the table.
Commenter
Old aged Pensioner
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
Watching the ideas and innovations dribble down the drain of the Credlin/Abbott/Turnbull govt.
A Prime Minister rolled by a dill like George Christensen ..... followed by Turnbull's Fraudband getting 1 gigabit speeds.
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
Malcolm Turnbull and the Liberal Party are going to an Election with an attack on Building Unions, a Scare Campaign on Negative Gearing and Company Tax Cuts. They have no intention of reigning in corruption within the Banking and Finance Industry, the Corporate Sector or dodgy Political Donations - only an assault on Unions. They are also avoiding like a plague any talk on the really big issues like Climate Change, the Economy, the NBN, changes to Medicare, ruling out future changes to the GST, Same Sex Marriage or what their position is on further Health and Education cuts - that is the legacy of the Abbott Government and Malcolm Turnbull is carrying on the tradition. Look carefully at the record of this Government under two Leaders, Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull, and look at the lies and failures they have loaded on us. What confidence would you have that anything in this divided Government was going to change? The Liberal Party are desperately going to an early election before the shine has completely gone from Malcolm Turnbull and the country's position gets far worse!
Commenter
Darcy
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
Agreed, Darcy. The next few months is going to be so excruciating. You are right. The LNP is resting everything on smearing the building unions - to which they'll link Shorten (however tenuously) - while pursuing their scare campaign in regard to the sound policy ideas from the ALP and we'll be forced to endure it every single day. There will be no transparency in regards to what their real agenda is (so much for Mal treating us with intelligence!) if they are re-elected, no positive vision for all Australians, no reeling in of the tax rorts the ultra-wealthy and offshore-investing corporations get to enjoy at everyone else's expense, but just more of the same, while low and middle income workers, the unemployed, sick and disabled will continue to bear the brunt of cutbacks. We can expect penalty rates to be cut and Medicare services to be wound back while, undoubtedly, also welfare services will be reduced. Why would anyone vote the most incompetent, untrustworthy, divisive government in living memory back into power?
Commenter
Jules
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:38PM
There's never been a more exciting time to be a member of the CFMEU !
Commenter
A Green
Location
Australia
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:50AM
Where are all those Labor supporters who were crying 'DD now'?
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:50AM
I would suggest you contact your local ALP branch if you want to get in touch with them.
Some people ask the silliest questions.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:56AM
We're here.
No problems, bring it on.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:00AM
Right here, bring it on!
Labor have already moved to a 50.5 - 49.5 2PP lead in the latest poll, Turnbull's announcement was immediately followed by more friction within his own party, they have nothing solid to campaign on, while Labor have clearly have the edge on policy debate and have been steadily building momentum which is now going their way.
The only question will be how gullible the public is when the Libs bombard us with their expensive advertising campaigns.
Commenter
T
Location
St Kilda
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:13AM
To borrow a cliche from the Tories, we, the silent majority, are out here with cricket bats at the ready.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:18AM
Put your money on Labor to win the election yet, davemac? It's paying 5 bucks, should be the easiest money you've ever made.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:01PM
Thanks for the tip adrian, I might just do that.
And if you are inferring that the markets are never wrong....Campbell N says hi and can he have a job.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:14PM
I would never suggest that the favourites are always right, but the QLD election result seems to be the exception as far as elections go, that's why davemac and others keep clinging to it.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:40PM
It's now Malcolm Turnbull thumbing his nose at the voters and his own party!
Commenter
Ruth
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:48AM
So the LNP policies taken to the last landslide election still exist. Amazing. The media are getting desperate, very desperate. Turnbull has already said he and Abbott were part of the same Govt. A victorious Govt supported by the Australian voting public.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:47AM
Somebody stop him EIE is on fire !
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:54AM
Me thinks you complain too much. There appears to be only one desperate poster here today, pal.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:54AM
Too wordy. Methinks you are getting very worried by all this.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:58AM
So what you are saying is the bad policies that lost Abbott his job will see Mal lose his????
Commenter
Reek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:06AM
@ Buff:
['Somebody stop him EIE is on fire!']
He sees the writing on the wall, and what he sees, he no liley.
Blind Freddy can see that the Tories are a disunited shambles.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:14AM
No they scrapped 99% of what they took to tge Election. The outstanding Legislation is all tge hidden agenda, not taken to an Election and thus no Mandate was given, this is why the a house of review wouldn't pass it. This is why Abbotg is no longer PM
Commenter
Just the facts
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:14AM
The swinging, disengaged voters who don't follow politics closely (and decide elections) didn't so much vote for Abbott & Co as they voted to stop the 'drama' they were bombarded with via News Corp, Sunrise, Today, etc about Labor's "infighting" which really has nothing to do with governing the nation.
Their win had nothing to do with policy. The LNP relies on disengaged voters and policy ignorance to win, more people understanding their policy agenda would be the biggest threat to their success because there are so few beneficiaries of it.
Commenter
T
Location
St Kilda
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:25AM
Jason,
Yep true I'm not sure who the more panicked is, EIE or MT?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:14PM
No one needs to know what Ricky Muir is doing anymore - BTW what is he still still doing at work. Hasn't the Senate been wound up ?
Commenter
gc
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:46AM
What comic superheroes and villains are hidden behind our politicians? Who would be Superman, the Hulk, The Penguin etc. Would Tony see himself as Mr Fantastic? How would you describe Julie Bishop? If Bill Shorten is Robin, the under-powered less intelligent side-kick, who is Batman?
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:43AM
Judging by the desperate comments here the ALP and Greens will be demolished at the election. Expect more strawman arguments and deflections from Shorten's and Di Natale's spin doctors.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:40AM
Wow another repeat. Like Malcolm, still stuck on the Abbott agenda.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:45AM
Come on EIE..... stop trolling.
We are all interested to hear your constructive thoughts and reasoned arguments.
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:46AM
Your desperation is reaching mythical heights.
Commenter
Good for a laugh
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:48AM
None moreso than you E=E, so I guess the LNP is a shot duck also. Maybe we'll have a cross-bench Government.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:48AM
Yes, I believe those comments you are judging the election on are your own. You are so very focused on the opposition.
Elections, however, tend to be more about governments. After all, Abbott got election with next to nothing on his platform other than that he wasn't Labor. This time, we have a Coalition government at each others throats, a puppet Prime Minister whose popularity is ever shrinking, and no credible policies at all. In contrast, we have an opposition who are much more united than the government, with a coherent economic strategy, with an understanding that fixing inequality is good for both social cohesion and economic stability,
Commenter
Hush
Location
Wollongong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:49AM
Time to change...you are kidding...right?
Libs great, everyone else bad is all you're gunna get. Plus a whole lot of hate.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:55AM
I think it's going to be a lot closer than you imagine, actually.
Commenter
Oliver More
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:56AM
I only see one desperate commentor, and its you... stop repeating yourself, your team don't have a chance. They are a mess, they will be kicked out for the same reasons Labor were, you are about to repeat history
Commenter
Tenaglia
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:09PM
Voters need to ask one question; do they want Tony Turnbull as Prime Minister?
Commenter
Byte Me
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:37AM
The voters don't want Billy Rudd that's for sure. Or Billy Gillard.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:49AM
Time for Shorten to go. He just continues to cave into the extreme far left Unions and the weirdos in his party. It's the same failed ideology from the Rudd/Gillard years of lies and deceit.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:32AM
Not until a few terms as PM eie.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:43AM
and a vote for Turnbull is a vote for the tax avoiding and deceitful financial sector of big end of town.
Commenter
Nick
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:50AM
Time for Turnbull to go. He just continues to cave into the extreme far right IPA and the weirdos in his party. It's the same failed ideology from the Abbott years of lies and deceit.
(Wow, this commenting business is dead easy. No need for individual thought or even coherent argument!)
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:50AM
EiE… are you a member of the Coalition's media strategy team?
Commenter
Common sense
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
It won't happen yet, as a result of Rudd's parting gift to the Labor Party.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:52AM
You keep talking about years of failed ideology and years of lies and deceit, but I don't think you realise the irony.
The Liberal Party are just as fractured and deceitful as Labor was.
Commenter
Oliver More
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:53AM
Something like the extreme far right.
Commenter
Old aged Pensioner
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:54AM
I kinda like him. Against expectations, he's running a disciplined, committed opposition.
Commenter
gravel12
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:20AM
"The picture emerging from his first six months [as prime minister] was that he was wasting his time. We now see that he has been biding his time," Peter writes.
Seriously? Mal the decisive leader, a man of policy and action, leading from the front? Or a scheming backroom dealer whose only concern is gaining and retaining power.
Given everything is off the table in the Libs' policy-free vacuum, it looks very much like the latter. Going for an early election because you are slipping in the polls is hardly decisive or positive.
Commenter
Lucky
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:27AM
Spot on.
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:34AM
It says it all Lucky that when Turnbull finally made a decision on something he is praised and lauded like hes the new saviour. All because he actually did what leaders and P.M's are supposed to do, which is to make decisions and not waffle and dither for 6 months.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:38AM
...or a front man put up by the Right to try to amke the Coalition more palatable to voters? Whatever, Mal doesn't appear to be pulling the strings but if he is, then he is keeping his Treasurer out of the loop.
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:39AM
It's surprised me that some in the media think this is a massive wrong footing of everyone. Some kind a cunning plan. Well, maybe a Baldrick one.
Gees was there anyone that didn't know they were out of ideas and would head to a DD? Except RDN? Der!!!!
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
Hard to know what's worse, Labor winning government or another 3 years of leftie sour grapes.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:54AM
adrian - anytime you care to serve up a decent LNP govt I guarantee many of us will stop complaining
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:57AM
Back room dealing is the new black. Some governing would be welcome.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:10AM
I agree Lucky - Turnbull was just wasting OUR time playing power games!
No wonder nothing has happened substantially policy wise; he's been tip toeing through the tulips (the the far right)!
Commenter
Byte Me
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:24AM
Will Malcolm be able to pull off a 15 week campaign on a platform based on little more than stirring up the voter’s dislike of unions, along with a healthy scare campaign about negative gearing? Quite possibly. John Howard pulled off election wins on similarly thin premises (think Tampa).
What a pity for the nation that we’re still stuck in this mire of negative and opportunistic politics. Mal said he’d lead us out of it, but he’s just leading us deeper into the bog.
Commenter
Gigondas
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:26AM
It feels like we are back in the 70's and 80's with a union bashing election coming up. The progress of this country is one decade forward , 3 decades back.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:41AM
How long was that campaign of Howard's? A flimsy premise is best deployed for a short time.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:45AM
The Libs deserted the high ground when they first elected Abbott. The loony right know an effective template for re-election when they see it. Screw the country, mind you, but they'll be OK Jack.
Whether Bill gets in or now, he deserves massive kudos for actually trying to get in based on ideas and policy.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:53AM
No he'll win on the back of Shorten's campaign on starting the boats and bringing back the carbon tax.
Commenter
adrian
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:55AM
Mal speaks with forked tounge, as does the parallel Tory leader.
The competition between the two is palpable, and shows no signs of abatement.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:01AM
adrian: Shorten's campaigning to start some boats? I haven't seen that one, seems like an odd campaign platform.
Commenter
T
Location
St Kilda
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:49PM
Whatever our personal politics, we all have a vested interest in our pm as someone we can identify with. After the lunacy of the Rudd-Gillard-Abbott era, we all pinned our hopes on Malcolm to provide coherence and to lead us somewhere. But like Ted Baillieu, Malcolm doesn't seem to see any need to do anything or to lead us anywhere. He tells us everything is on the table but we then find nothing is on the table - except negative gearing if that is about leadership.
Commenter
Just for one day
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:26AM
Couldn't believe my ears when he said negative gearing is not an tax incentive. Over investing in property is rather unproductive. Who dares to take a risk with start ups when they got a huge mortgage? Why start an election campaign on the same day brokers requiring 30% deposit for foreigners to buy new property? Is it just a coincidence or the government trying to tone down effects of negative gearing before the election?
Commenter
FHB
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:24AM
I reckon Malcolm should go Trump (or Drumpf) on Abbott's ass.
Tell him he's had his time, shut the hell up, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
All he has to do is ask Cory permission first.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:23AM
The big PUP is very quiet- PUP has gooone, and LNP to pick up more seats in the Lower. Pauline is running again to fail - a cool K 200 pickup - a nice lark every 3 years or so
Commenter
gc
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:23AM
Let's go with Shorten. What exactly was the point of changing to Turnbull when he is just going to cave to far-right bigotry, as with the Safe Schools program.
Commenter
Grant
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:23AM
Grant , he kicked the Leftie Bullies and their extremist con job out - now SS is a proper Anti Bullying program for all
Commenter
gc
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:42AM
gc
would you like to be bullied because your different?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:06AM
Mr Shiny doesn't like 'violent metaphors' to be used by anyone outside of the LNP. There really is no glass jaw like a Liberal glass jaw.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:22AM
Interesting narrative from the media hailing what a clever and assertive move Turnbull has made catching everyone off guard. What about the bit about Turnbull playing the system like a clever little lawyer (one could almost visibly see him tingling all over himself on ABC7.30 last night) for his own end. Triggering section 5 of the constitution to bring parliament back in April at the cost of millions to the taxpayer so he can play his little DD game now that he has the senate reform through. There also needs to be an analysis of the role of the GG in this and why he would consider the ABCC of such importance to governing and our democracy that he should assent to this game playing by Turnbull.
It would appear that that we have become so numb to the shenanigans in Canberra that we barely bat an eyelid when politicians take us for a bunch of dimwits and this time the GG is complicit.
Commenter
monkeybiz
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:19AM
The knifing video does not play . Is it only my PC?
Commenter
tashman1
Location
melb
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:19AM
Problems on my computer too, so don't feel alone! It should resolve itself. I've seen this problem before.
Commenter
Snags
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:32AM
Perhaps a better painting for Malcolm would have been Edvard Munch's "Scream". Especially after he reviews the Leigh Sales' interview and Tony's non-snipe.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:19AM
Now why is it that my two comments on certain investigations by a certain government force into the scandals of this government cant get past todays moderator? Just naming names is a no no now?
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:18AM
@Pulse 9.49
Is there any detail about when the painting was given to Turnbull?
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:13AM
I can't find any new alterations on his register, but being under $7,500 perhaps not needed to declare there. Not sure. Page 13 of his extensive 36 pages declares gifts as Nil.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:53AM
Oh dear, from the Aus today,
"Malcolm Turnbull has conceded Tony Abbott could be a hindrance to the looming election campaign as the Prime Minister rejects the claim he is seeking a mandate based on Mr Abbott’s policies."
“It depends what he says, frankly, whether it’s a plus or a minus depends entirely on the nature of his contribution,” Mr Turnbull said on 3AW radio.
“Tony is a national figure, I hope that he will be supportive and he’s indicating that he will be and that will be good.”
He "hopes" he will be supportive eh?
Youve got two hopes Malcolm, Bobs and none.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:09AM
Goodbye in advance MT. We do not want a Liberal government again. We do no want millionaires to continue not paying taxes when you are in government while you come up with many schemes to squeeze ever cent from ordinary workers and people. Enough of you.
Commenter
Junk
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:07AM
Abbott is deluded. Turnbull won't be campaigning on Abbott's broken promises, nor on his own record, because he doesn't have one. No, he has drawn the campaign battle lines - union bashing and scare campaigns against Labor's negative gearing policy.
No record, no policies, just slogans and Labor scare mongering. Seriously Mal, you reckon you can win on that,and the people will trust you with both houses? Ah, the Turnbull arrogance is emerging.
Commenter
Lucky
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:07AM
"The Turnbull government is seeking an election fundamentally on the policies of the Abbott government." You are so right Tony. A vote for Malcolm Turnbull is a vote for Tony Abbott.
Commenter
Mike
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:06AM
So the word "paperwork" is now on the hit list. Interesting.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:05AM
Those who are attempting to paint a picture of Abbott other than in payback mode are in la-la land.
He's essentialy saying that a vote for Turnbull is a vote for Abbott.
I'm sure Shorten won't run with said meme.
Further, Abbott's interview was subsequent to the latest Morgan poll, which records a 2PP of 50.5:49.5 to Labor.
Commenter
Jason of Gold
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:04AM
A vote for Shorten is a vote for the CMFEU.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:26AM
EIE
Ill be voting for Bill, well my local ALP candidate of course
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:53AM
If anyone saw the interview with Ricky, the Brick with Eyes and David Leyonhjelm last night - it preceded Tone's chat - there seems very little prospect for anything other than a July 2 election. "We won't be intimidated" was the theme.
Then we had Jackie Lambie - of the imaginatively named Jackie Lambie Network - saying the same thing on an rather lackluster Q&A.
We can pretty much lock in July 2, unless the independents realise most will be jobless on July 3, or shortly thereafter.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:04AM
Good on them for standing up for what they believe, and refusing to be intimidated by the PM.
If only the PM himself had the same level of commitment to his principles.
Commenter
Oliver More
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:49AM
What a surprise, we have EiE, Piped Piper and Hacka leading the comments, I look forward to the LNP being dissolved along with all Abbott's ridiculous policies. Good to see Abbott back reminding us of how good he thinks his record is, the majority of the country clearly think the opposite. We were all well aware already that Turnbull = Abbott, with no progress in the last months
Commenter
Tenaglia
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:03AM
I wonder how much the AFP investigations into the current LNP members are going to play in this election campaign as there are a few of them going on arent there?
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:03AM
Three are obviously mute and one has metamorphosed into Mr Nice Guy.
Commenter
A country gal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:24AM
Did anyone see that ludicrous display on 730 last night?
The thing about Malcolm is that he always tries to walk it in.
Oh, and pretend that he never said stuff that he well, jolly well said. And pretend a random collection of thought bubbles is actually a plan. My highlight - saying that under Labor new home builders would be competing with investors. That's shaky at best, but at the moment new home buyers are as well. Doh Malcolm, doh!
Poor old Malcolm. And then Tones started chirping. It's an exciting time to have a 100 day campaign.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:58AM
I missed it, but read a transcript this morning. Not a good look. The way Turnbull tried to explain away his abandonment of free market principles was disappointing.
Commenter
Sunshine Liberal
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:14AM
I liked the part where Sales put it to Turnbull that the Productivity Commission said that the effect of the ditching of the ABCC was neutral.
Turnbull's response: (watte) other economists take a different view - surely not a ringing endorsement of the Commission.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:22AM
This is beginning to look like one of those storm chasing movies where everyone is stuck in their SUV heading into a patch of very unpredictable, nasty weather.
Commenter
Pluto
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:56AM
Pen, have you calculated the impact of Di Natale's fuel guzzling SUV on climate change - particularly sea level rises. The science is settled isn't it?
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:56AM
Ha, that's what you've got?
It will be the 'where is....' game next.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:04AM
Why don't you ask him. He's a member of your coalition.
Commenter
PhilC
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:13AM
eie,
So you're 100% certain that the latest climate changes and temperature rises are not man-made?
is that the certainty you're after, 100%?
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:35AM
Well Steph.
I knew you;d be back, oh yes, I knew.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:54AM
Gee, conspiracy theories are going into over drive.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:59AM
Malcolm Turnbull served one purpose for the Coalition: to get re-elected and keep them in power! Once he achieved that, Abbott can make his move and the Libs will happily dispose of Turnbull. Maybe Abbott gets his majority in both houses then. Looking forward to GP co-payments, ground troops in Syria, de-regulated unis and more draconian restrictions of our liberties!
Commenter
BirkBorkasson
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:54AM
MT and Scomo team is worse than Abbott and Hockey. I won't believe the may budget that was manufactured only for election. I dont believe anything from him. Labor will demolish him.
Commenter
Jinx
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:52AM
People are hanging you know what on Jackie Lambie, but she does say what she thinks. Though I'm not sure sometimes she does the thinking part of that. She is so unlike many members of parliament who also say what they think. They are the party sycophants who say very little.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:52AM
Not sure what the point is of putting up photos of Rudd and Gillard, footage of Leigh Sales when comments aren't permitted on any of their hopeless performances. .
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:48AM
That's because there were no hopeless performances. They're not from the right you know.
Commenter
PhilC
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:15AM
Why’s the ABCC bill so important to Turnbull and the LNP? The construction industry is to say the least a tiny fragment of the Australian economy that creates very little attention. The fact is Turnbull has nothing to run on in the election, he cannot claim an LNP fight on climate change there isn’t one. If he mentions what the LNP has done for pensioners and those on welfare he may as well sit in Shorten’s seat now.
Only a short time ago Greg Hunt claimed what a wonderful job the LNP was doing to keep the Great barrier Reef healthy only to learn this week that it hangs on the abyss. So the environment is looking decidedly shaky, especially with LNP approval for a giant coal mine in a major food production area, and approval for the biggest coal mine care of an Indian conglomerate. Not to mention expanded coal production cargos traversing Great Barrier Reef waters.
The gay community aren’t happy having dreams of marriage dashed from pillar to post by the LNP’s extreme right wing church brigade. Tax reform seems to be the same far distant proposition it was at the last election. So does reform of superannuation and the tax avoidance industry, not to mention negative gearing. Affordable home purchase is now at least six times the average annual wage; triple that of 20 years ago. Turnbull cannot claim any cost of living advantage as Australia is the third most expensive country in the world to live in. As for the economy and unemployment they’ve gone backwards under the LNP.
Hence reliance on the ABCC bill allows the LNP to attack ALP and union lawlessness in the construction industry, well if there isn’t any this week there soon will be, remember the carbon tax?
Commenter
Pen of hrba
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:47AM
Looking forward to Tim Wilson being elected. A proud man who stands up for himself and his principles.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:45AM
It will be more interesting to see if anyone from the Moderate Rationalist Party stands up for theirs.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:54AM
The MRP is developing nicely. Thanks for asking.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:00AM
Let's hope he at least promotes SSM amongst the knuckle draggers.
That would be an unintended consequence wouldn't it eie?
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:05AM
Tell us more.
Commenter
Emu of Justice
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:08AM
Have the South Australian Police laid charges against the intolerant, violent bullies who trashed Bernardis office and terrorised his staff? What is the AFP doing about it?
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:44AM
A quick call to Bernardi's office should answer this question. Let us know what you find out.
Commenter
Quick Comment.
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:58AM
Fairfax journos are back at work. Let the media get the current status and who was behind this attack on democracy.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:03AM
This is a (rare) fair point. the behaviour of the protestors was unacceptable.
The fact that Mr Bernardi is completely out of touch with much of the electorate and demonstrates no compassion does not make the demonstrators' behaviour acceptable.
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:03AM
Yes, that chalk graffiti was just shocking.
It will take a year and a day to remove.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:15AM
Gotta love Latika Bourke, shes dug up some of the "violent metaphors" Turnbulls used himself in Parliament when it comes to knifing and stabbing etc,
"What a tragic mob you are. No ideas. They say they do not like cuts. He has been very good with a knife in the past, quite the swordsman, but he is better at putting it in to people's backs, isn't he? Always ready for the back cut," Mr Turnbull told Parliament in 2014, referring to Mr Shorten's role in the downfalls of Mr Rudd and Ms Gillard.
"This is the man that persuaded Kevin Rudd not to go to a double dissolution. This is the man that led Kevin Rudd over the cliff into an abyss, where he then stabbed him in the back," Mr Turnbull also told Parliament in February 2015.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:44AM
Given the reported numbers of the "petition", 43, plus two more recent IPA additions I count 45 behind Abbott. And he is behind Turnbull.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:43AM
With a knife?
Commenter
Pen of hrba
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:51AM
Even if the LNP decides that Mr Turnbull is not the right person...surely no one could suggest that Mr Abbott is!!
Mr Turnbull needs to use the DD to establish a mor moderate mandate and get on with the job.
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:52AM
The thing protecting MT was his popularity and polling numbers. Both going south.
Anything less than a landslide this year and he's toast. I'd have to say good riddance, I has such high hopes, but the gibberish on 730 shows he's not up to it, at least with the deadwood of the current LNP on his back. At least with Abbott I had no expectations of greatness, and he delivered in spades.
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:09AM
Abbot government, Turnbull government. The conceit of personal politics. They clearly cannot work together.
Commenter
Tom
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:42AM
The Pulse refresh is annoying. I keep typing in Federal election and it comes up with Feral election. Is it deliberate?
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:40AM
Tony who?
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:37AM
Gotta have a chuckle at all those who claim the government is controlled by the IPA. The IPA is against a SSM plebiscite and supports marriage equality. They also want 18c stripped back but it's been retained. They're against government funding the School Chap program. The IPA is a classical liberal think tank. The government is filled with classical liberals who are pro small government. Shock horror they share the same philosophies.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:37AM
Piped
And, some irony when Wilson is elected. Then, there will be two openly gay members in the LNP.
Commenter
$keptic
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:52AM
Piped, have a look at the IPA wish-list and see how many items HAVE been ticked off.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:02AM
Selective reporting there, Piper.
I suggest you take jokek's advice.
Commenter
Jason of Gold Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:49AM
@Jason and Jofek. Like I said the IPA is a classical Liberal think tank. The Liberal party is filled with classical Liberals. It's like saying coat sales increase in Winter, hardly a revelation.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:58AM
Piped, yep purely coincidental; I'm so very convinced.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 11:16AM
Don't tell me , this government is going to fight an election on Unions only ...
Commenter
Old Aged Pensioner
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:36AM
Well Malcolm that was a shocker of an interview on the 7.30 report last night. Leigh Sales using "violent" language upset the sensitivities and then Abbott's little hand grenade later in the evening. MorgonPoll has Labor leading 50.5% to 49.5% TPP. Scott Morrison wasn't even told about his budget being brought forward and a DD election looming over re-instating the ABCC which in 7 years under the Howard government secured 0 convictions. It's all going to plan isn't it. You're at 8 in the standing count Malcolm.
Commenter
Tony the Boxer strikes again
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:33AM
Bring on the double dissolution. I am sick of the electioneering already and it's just day one. I'm half expecting a doorknock from my sitting member whom I haven't seen since he was elected. I'd rather listen to vacuum cleaner salespeople, Jehovah Witness spruikers or someone selling cheaper power. I don't have the courage to tell him to go back to the trough and put his snout back in it.
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:32AM
There will be no sniping blah blah blah. A post election LNP will degenerate into all out brawling and the hard right led by Abbott will continue to undermine Turns. The possibility of Abbott regaining the PM position should not be underestimated particularly when the Turnbull polls decend further . . and they will. The LNP are great at talking themselves up but appalling at building any policy of substance.
Commenter
Danger Ranger
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:31AM
Whatever the outcome,here's hoping Lambie's drawling nasal speak will be consigned to the dustbin down South forever
Commenter
gc
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:31AM
Strewth , Malcolm better hurry up and pull Tony into line , he is so vindictive , how can Turnbull go into an election with this carry-on.
Commenter
Bill Grieve
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:30AM
He hasn't got a choice!
Commenter
Ruth
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:00AM
With the narky and ill done by Abbott, plus his ever present moaning, future denying cronies taking pot shots from within;; the PM may now have some inkling of what Ms Gillard endured with grace and dignity.
Commenter
polym
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:30AM
Based on what Tony's record, the government has done only three things in this term. It has stopped the boats. It has got rid of the carbon and mining taxes. It has repaired the budget. Well two out of three things anyway. So Malcolm has done nothing else according to Tony. Based on that record then the Coalition can't stand on its record at this election. It has done bugger all. Oh one thing Tony did do apart from dividing a nation. He shirt-fronted Putin, didn't he?
Commenter
Tucky
Location
Warragul
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:27AM
Tucky According to ABC fact check Abbott did not stop the boats so that leaves him with what? The had all but stopped coming before the 2013 election due to manus island solution by Rudd and the announcement by him that no one would be settled in Australia. A fact everyone seems to have forgotten. The labor party don't tell it like it was because they would like the left of their party not to be reminded that they were as harsh as the conservatives in dealing with refugees.
Commenter
JMG
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:48AM
Last night George Brandis was making the point about productivity in the building industry and how it had somehow gone down. His point, as I understand it, was that if we had stricter legislation it would go up.
It surely follows that if we had more corporate governance that people would invest more in our financial institutions.
Might be worth looking at very soon.
Commenter
Rod
Location
the Coast
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:26AM
Rod, The trouble is the 2014 Prooductivity Commission said there were very little productivity increases in the building industry when the ABCC was introduced and no changes to the building industry's productivity when it was changed to Fair work.
Seems an ideological storm in a tea cup.
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:47AM
It is funny watching Turnbull squirm when it comes to Abbot because he can't do anything about Abbott. This is because Abbott is far more representative of the Coalition government than Turnbull is. Turnbull is and always will be a puppet tied to the ideology of his party members and that ideology will always look more like Abbott then Turnbull. Anyone hoping for a change of direction after a Turnbull election win is kidding themselves, again like they did when they elected Abbott. Every PM reflects the ideology of their party and under our system, always will. The anomaly here is Turnbull was promoted simply to win an election, normally parties promote on merit and ideology.
Commenter
Kevin
Location
Wentworth Falls
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:24AM
Wow. Malcolm initiates an election and promptly gets eaten alive on 7.30. Alarm bells are ringing for his decision making abilities.
Commenter
ah ha
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:24AM
Abbott says the Turnbull government is running on his record. The sad thing is he thinks this is a political advantage.
Commenter
Nick
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:24AM
Just what Malcolm needed, the warrior from Warringah defending his "legacy" on the same day Turnbull makes his big play to remind people that nothings changed in the LNP except the ties.
15 weeks more of "no sniping or undermining or leaks" that the LNP and Turnbull in particular have to try to contain.
The timing of Abbott being out of the country was also just pure coincidence as well wasnt it, but that still didnt stop him.
Commenter
mirrorsofsmoke
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:22AM
Perhaps the "leader" of this Institute of Public Affairs "government" should wind back the tape of what he said when announcing he was going to contest the leadership.
What Mr HIH said was always going to come back to bite him - too clever by half with his solicitor words.
Commenter
Anon
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:20AM
Mr Abbott is back in form, excelling in opposition.
Commenter
rvaus
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:15AM
Welcome back Stephanie and co.
@8:56 - It stuns me that the LNP right continues to snipe.
They seem happy to reduce the likely government majority at an election by pushing ideas that the electorate seems not to support.
Why?
A close friend needs to have a quiet word with Mr Abbott. I am certain he tried hard but he was not suited to the role of PM. He needs to move on.
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:12AM
So Tony Turnbull starts to undermine Malcom Abbott and the election hasn't been called yet.....this is pure gold !
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:11AM
I do think it was nice of Malcolm to give the likes of Day,Lazarus, Muir and Madigan a few extra weeks to look for other employment opportunities.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:10AM
Piped, you may be surprised at the number of people who will very carefully mark their papers to return some of the current bunch. I know the Greens and LNP will not be featuring in my top 6.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:15AM
you can call it a 3 month notice period for high end executives verses a 4 week notice which an average joe receives when he gets redundant.
Commenter
ruler
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:19AM
It is interesting isn't it.
The idea of someone being elected with 0.5% of the primary vote is not right but .....
Mr Muir seems to have commonsense in spades...
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:22AM
@Jofek. So you're ok with some shadowy preference whisper dictating who controls legislation that impacts on 23 million people? You do know the legislation was part of a multi party review in which 95% of the recommendations were adopted. I don't see why everyone is so upset about this. If the government is on the nose they won't be re-elected. Simple.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:23AM
I will make a special effort now with my senate voting paper in an effort to thwart the current government's attempt to 'fix' the vote.
Commenter
Nick
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:26AM
The action by Turnbull shows he is no better than Abbott and is still running with Abbott toxic policies. His explanation of negative gearing was and is poor and demonstrates he is beholden to the rich investors and the multinationals to the disadvantage of 80% of Australians. One can hope that pensioners, families and middle class Australia understand they will pay a heavy price if Turnbull and the LNP are re-elected.
Commenter
Another Tom
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:32AM
better a preference whisperer than yet another IPA apparatchik.
Commenter
fizzybeer
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:41AM
Fizzy what is your issue with the IPA? The ALP has former union hacks heading the number 1 ticket on the senate. I agree on one thing, the senate order should be based on merit across both parties. Patterson doesn't have the runs on the board to attract number 1 status.
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:48AM
Fizzy
You forgot to add Union hack to your post
Commenter
$keptic
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:49AM
Piped, as I've said previously, I would be happier with any random bunch of ratbags doing their job and holding the Government to account. I will not be happy if the 20%+ who did not vote 1 for either of the Greens, Labor or the LNP go unrepresented - they are better represented by randoms than if their votes are distributed amongst the major parties as has generally been the case in the past. 'Preference whisperers'? Gee mate, what do you think Labor, the Libs and the Greens have been doing for time immemorial?
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:57AM
"I don't see why everyone is so upset about this"
Well, Mr Piper.
No one can be exactly sure how the cards will fall in the senate. But there is a *potential* for havoc due to preference exhaustion due to confusion over 'you must number 6 boxes but 1 is valid because voters are confused'.
In which case the system *might* favour the part(ies) with the most corresponding votes in the lower house.
i.e. the likelihood that many of crossbench seats held by Wang, Day, Muir, Madigan etc flow directly back to the coalition.
Do we really want a party with 42% of the lower house primary vote holding, say, 47% of the upper house? if by some twist of fate Labor narrowly won the election you'd still have a dysfunctional senate if Xenophon, Lambie and the Coalition held the majority.
A majority in both houses might be the dream of Hacka, eie and the rest of the cheersquad but by that token may as well abolish the upper house.
But I guess we'll find out on election night.
Commenter
Below The Line
Location
[1] Science Party
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 12:39PM
I'm confused do we have a leadership challenge or a potential double dissolution?
Commenter
Piped Piper
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:08AM
Piped, eie - hopefully this is symbolic of the upcoming election campaign - conservatives leading the charge !
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:19AM
Maybe that's why we call it a double dissolution? We're dissolving the whole parliament, and Abbot's dissolving Turnbull's leadership.
Commenter
Jimbo
Location
Brisbane
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:26AM
The question is who wants the Institute of Public Affairs government Mt HIH now "leads"?
Commenter
Anon
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:27AM
Confusion is a state shared by those whom you support.
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:30AM
Perhaps the Charge of the Light Brigade at best.
Commenter
blah
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:38AM
There's a fine line between pleasure and pain Piped.
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:41AM
Join the club piper, we've been confused since 2013. But at least we've been entertained. But time for the clown to move on....
Commenter
davemac
Location
Melbourne
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:01AM
More Pulse - great news !
But seriously - that's a dig ? Abbott is basically saying what some of the press have for a few months now, so it's hardly a new revelation. Abbott himself has used this line a few times now.
It was a pretty timid interview, and that was the only remotely controversial line. On the Malcolm-Tony Richter scale, this one ranks pretty low. Not even a tremor.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:08AM
Agree with you there Hacka. Moreover, one could conclude Abbott may have been talking to his own supporters...to encourage them to support Malcolm.
Commenter
Thomaso
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:18AM
I actually agree with you here Hacka. What Abbott said wasn't new in the slightest, and is actually true. Turnbull will have to run on Abbott's record because he's done next to nothing when in power. He's let his party run amok often at each other's expense, he's failed to show a backbone at standing up to his own party members and he's let his popularity, his only asset, start to tarnish.
The only thing he can really boast of is changing senate voting laws to change the 25% of votes for someone other than the Coalition, Labor or Greens to donkey votes now, and he calls it democracy.
And worse still for him, the Abbott record isn't a good one to run on anyway. First budget, anyone?
Commenter
Hush
Location
Wollongong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:20AM
....but there will be plenty of after shocks Hacka, and I think know that.
Didn't Malcom promise a new approach to government once he knifed Tones,
Tones obviously didn't get the memo, if those (Tones) policies were so good then why did Malcolm knife Tones?
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:22AM
Nope. Abbott still can't get over his removal from office and istrying to claim the Coalition was on the right path under his stewardship. Well it was certainly 'right' in terms of its ideology but the polls continually showed he was leading them into oblivion. While the Far Right are pulling the strings, they are continuing down that path.
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:28AM
Talk it up Buff, talk it up. That the media would try to highlight a divide between Abbott and Turnbull is a given.
That it would be done with such flimsy evidence is disappointing. But it won't be the last time.
Commenter
Hacka
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:55AM
Hacka
they don't need to highlight anything, its there for all to see.
Commenter
Buffalo Bill
Location
Sydneys Northshore
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:20AM
Hacka, 'flimsy evidence'; mate they've both signed confessions.
Commenter
jofek
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:51AM
The LNP will be united in its defeat of the ALP rabble who simply channel Rudd and Gillard's failed policies and irresponsible economic management. The same old ALP faces from 2007-2013. They ignore the electorate at their peril. The ALP needs to reinvent itself and get rid of the dead wood - starting at the top.
Commenter
enough is enough
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:03AM
@EIE What are you thoughts re Mr Bernardi, Mr Abetz.... are they ignoring the electorate at their peril?
Commenter
Time to change
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:19AM
Sorry, the first line appears to be wrong. Allow me to fix it:: "The LNP will be united in defeat by the ALP". There, all good now.
Commenter
stevek
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:23AM
Failed economic management? Clearly you have been asleep since the last election. The Abbott governmet did nothing but bad mouth the economy for 2 years and guess what, it had their desired affect of weakening it. The Abbott government trashed more in their 2 years than anyone would have though possible. It's just a good thing that we had a senate that could stand against most of his more moronic ideas. Turnbull has done nothing in the last 7 months to redeeem this failure of a "political party"
Commenter
Desp
Location
Canberra
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 9:23AM
Your spell checker is playing up again. Surely you meant to say "...the LNP rabble who simply channel Abbott and Hockey's failed policies and irresponsible economic management. The same old LNP faces from 2013-2105."
Commenter
RGY
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:26AM
eie Labor's "failed policies and irresponsible economic management"
What do you call Direct Action, the current NBN roll out, Paid Parental Leave, No cuts promises, Tax white paper, Cambodia asylum policy, doubling of debt and deficits in only 2 years, etc.
If the policies of Labor's are failures and poor management, then the LNP actions are worse.
Commenter
Econorat
Location
Sydney
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 10:40AM
TTC: Now, now, address the point.
Why are we even discussing it, it's all academic anyway, the Coalition's strolling to an election victory.
Hands up those who after the election still want to see all those failed ALP ministers staring back at them on the front bench? It's like the ALP won't allow people to forget 07-13. Imagine seeing Chiquita Mushroom Bill and Lazy, 'I haven't said a word for 2 years' Tanya, Tony 'freeby' Bourke, Chris 'watch, my lips don't move' Bowen and the rest of them staring back at you every day?
The dread.
Commenter
housemartin
Location
hong kong
Date and time
March 22, 2016, 1:55PM
enough is enough, we just want the LNP to do something, anything!!!