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Old 10-25-2007, 01:48 AM   #1
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Chief Alberta Thought Cop Threatens Aryan Guard


Dear Free Speech Supporter:

There’s a new group of young folks in Calgary who call themselves “The Aryan Guard.” The name may be a little in-your-face and dramatic, but these folks have acted responsibly staging a peaceful protest against “anti-racists,” leafleting about uncontrolled immigration, and, most recently, protesting against Moslem women being allowed to vote disguised in burkas.

Fifty years ago, these young people would be praised for taking and interest and expressing their views, rather than devoting themselves to partying and hell raising.

Not so! What they get is a stern warning from chief Alberta thought cop Charlach Mackintosh, threatening them: “Although freedom of speech is a treasured part of our Canadian heritage, that freedom does not extend to expressions of hatred, contempt and discrimination against another person or a group. I have a message to those who use the pretext of protesting the legal rights of Muslim women dressed in burkas to vote as a means for promoting racism and religious discrimination - such discrimination is illegal under Alberta's human rights legislation.” (Edmonton Journal, October 23, 2007)

Opposing Moslem women bearing burkas to vote is not advocating religious discrimination. It’s insisting that the same laws apply to all of us.

Mackintosh has a long history of antagonism to free expression. In the early 90s, he cheered on efforts by communist David Lethbridge and certain Jewish groups to close down a meeting of Ron Gostick’s Canadian League of Rights.

Mackintosh further claims to believe that “freedom of speech is a treasured part of our Canadian heritage.” Don’t believe it for a second. The politically correct and human rights inquisitors, most of all, hate free speech with a passion. Toe the party line or we’ll gag you, fine you or jail you is their motto.

Macintosh heads an organization that is suppose to investigate complaints. He’s cast aside any pretense of fairness and neutrality. Should a complaint be made against the Aryan Guard, any bets as to how his Commission would rule?

Paul Fromm
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Chief commissioner's letter to the editor published
October 23, 2007
in the Edmonton Journal,
concerning Election Canada's decision
to allow Muslim women to vote
wearing a burka


The decision by Elections Canada to allow Muslim women to vote wearing
face-covering burkas has generated a new level of public debate about how
far our democratic institutions should go to model respect for individual
rights. Sadly in a very few instances, that debate may have gone beyond what
most people would consider appropriate and has generated protests: such as a
rally by a white supremacist group at Calgary city hall on the eve of the
civic election. As a result of that rally and another associated incident
where a man wearing a ski mask showed up to vote, I would like to provide a
perspective on the role of Alberta's human rights legislation in this
matter.

Elections Canada has rightly determined that concealing one's face is a
different matter than concealing one's identity. As long as the deputy
returning officer is satisfied with the identification presented by a voter,
that individual is allowed to vote. Period. A voter could dress in a burka,
military uniform, tutu, business suit or swim suit. There is no dress code
for voters.

Likewise, the City of Calgary's rules on voter identification seem clear.
All a voter must do is present proof of identity. The acceptable forms are
listed and if there is some doubt as to the identity of an individual, there
is a process for resolving the matter.

Although freedom of speech is a treasured part of our Canadian heritage,
that freedom does not extend to expressions of hatred, contempt and
discrimination against another person or a group. I have a message to those
who use the pretext of protesting the legal rights of Muslim women dressed
in burkas to vote as a means for promoting racism and religious
discrimination - such discrimination is illegal under Alberta's human rights
legislation.


Charlach Mackintosh
Chief Commissioner
Alberta Human Rights and Citizenship Commission




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Old 10-25-2007, 02:07 AM   #2
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No apologies to Charlach Mackintosh, we are here to stay.
The Aryan Guard does not advocate hate, terror, violence or any other illegal and harmful action what so ever.

Our site clearly states what we do advocate and it is definitely within the law (for now).

We are advocates of freedom, not oppression!
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what a joke this dumb **** is!

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Words of a spineless man,

"Sadly in a very few instances, that debate may have gone beyond what
most people would consider appropriate and has generated protests"

Protests are a very appropriate manner for showing displeasure in the public eye.
Would he prefer we rip apart the city like the black rioters in the US?
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The decision by Elections Canada to allow Muslim women to vote wearing face-covering burkas has generated a new level of public debate about how far our democratic institutions should go to model respect for individual rights. Sadly in a very few instances, that debate may have gone beyond what most people would consider appropriate and has generated protests: such as a rally by a white supremacist group at Calgary city hall on the eve of the civic election. As a result of that rally and another associated incident where a man wearing a ski mask showed up to vote, I would like to provide a perspective on the role of Alberta’s human rights legislation in this matter.
Oh goody; a self-righteous lecture by a thought-police representative! Do you think this guy has a portrait of Genrikh Yagoda on his wall?

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Elections Canada has rightly determined that concealing one’s face is a different matter than concealing one’s identity. As long as the deputy returning officer is satisfied with the identification presented by a voter, that individual is allowed to vote. Period. A voter could dress in a burka, military uniform, tutu, business suit or swim suit. There is no dress code for voters.
The next time an Albertan SF'er goes to vote; wear a Swastika armband, jack-boots and a brown shirt; lets test whether there is a dress code or not shall we!

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Likewise, the City of Calgary’s rules on voter identification seem clear. All a voter must do is present proof of identity. The acceptable forms are listed and if there is some doubt as to the identity of an individual, there is a process for resolving the matter.
Freedom to assemble and lawfully protest is another means of resolving a matter; didn't your lessons in 'human rights' law teach you that? Oooops right I forgot! Human rights only apply to those of the non-White, non-Heterosexual and non-Christian variety; my bad!

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I wonder if he wrote this with a straight face?

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that freedom does not extend to expressions of hatred, contempt and discrimination against another person or a group.
How does protesting the wearing of headgear at a voting station translate into promoting 'hatred?' Some logic there eh folks?

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I have a message to those who use the pretext of protesting the legal rights of Muslim women dressed in burkas to vote as a means for promoting racism and religious discrimination – such discrimination is illegal under Alberta’s human rights legislation.
Now I truly do wonder if this character has a portrait of Genrikh Yagoda on his office wall?

In other words folks he is telling the Aryan Guard to shut up or face the consequences of the Guard defending their culture, heritage, traditions and way of life. The Aryan Guard must have the Alberta government quite frightened when the Commissar for the thought-police commission issues a public warning to the AG. Aryan Guard; you obviously have the enemy frightened and concerned.
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Of course they would. than they could arrest us all and make us all out to be nothing more than a bunch of thugs and criminals. not like the poor oppressed scum bag blacks or Indians.

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Words of a spineless man,

"Sadly in a very few instances, that debate may have gone beyond what
most people would consider appropriate and has generated protests"

Protests are a very appropriate manner for showing displeasure in the public eye.
Would he prefer we rip apart the city like the black rioters in the US?
of course they would. then they could have us all arrested and try and make us all look like nothing more than thugs and criminals. not like those poor oppressed scum bag blacks and Indians.

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In other words folks he is telling the Aryan Guard to shut up or face the consequences of the Guard defending their culture, heritage, traditions and way of life. The Aryan Guard must have the Alberta government quite frightened when the Commissar for the thought-police commission issues a public warning to the AG. Aryan Guard; you obviously have the enemy frightened and concerned.
well we won't be going anywhere. Maybe they should get worried. we have received tones of e-mails of support from all across Canada and the states as well as a few from the UK all of witch want to have an Aryan guard chapter in there town.

we are not doing any thing wrong. this guy is just running his mouth as to keep the jews happy knowing full well there isn't a damn thing anyone could do to stop us aside from killing us. have at it to any one who wishes to try but I don't think it will work out to well for them.

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The next time an Albertan SF'er goes to vote; wear a Swastika armband, jack-boots and a brown shirt; lets test whether there is a dress code or not shall we!
The first thing I'd ask somebody dressed like that is "Who are you voting for?!" and then vote for that person.

But I have to say I'm flabbergasted. This is a threat. I'm sure the more visible the AG become, the more likely the government will act.

One obvious problem is that hate crimes laws are poorly defined & broadly interpreted. Whether we like it or not, these laws are in effect and will be used against us. These prosecutions seem to be largely successful because of legal ambiguities.

The largest problem with his letter is his assertion that free speech exists. Of course we know that if "hate speech" is illegalized, free speech does not exist because free speech cannot be selectively applied.

The whole point of free speech is to protect unpopular thought - allowing for academic debate, free exchange of ideas, in order to ultimately arrive at "truth." Perhaps the government outlawed "hate speech" because they are afraid of the truth?

So, no, Charlie. There's no freedom of speech if you charge people for protesting or saying what's on their mind you asinine son-of-a-bitch.
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How does protesting the wearing of headgear at a voting station translate into promoting 'hatred?'
It doesn't translate to promoting hatred. It it might translate onto promoting contempt. To promote contempt, all you have to do is criticize or express a negative thought against a privileged minority, and presto, you have the promotion of contempt.

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The largest problem with his letter is his assertion that free speech exists.
These talking heads repeat this bald faced lie for two reasons.

1 To try to fool the less intelligent and more gullible members of society that Canada is not a police state like North Korea.

2 To spit in the face of political dissidents who are being persecuted or are in danger of being persecuted.
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Not so! What they get is a stern warning from chief Alberta thought cop Charlach Mackintosh, threatening them: “Although freedom of speech is a treasured part of our Canadian heritage, that freedom does not extend to expressions of hatred, contempt and discrimination against another person or a group. I have a message to those who use the pretext of protesting the legal rights of Muslim women dressed in burkas to vote as a means for promoting racism and religious discrimination - such discrimination is illegal under Alberta's human rights legislation.” (Edmonton Journal, October 23, 2007)
When I was an elections officer, every single person regardless of race, religion or political belief had to show verifiable identification. No exceptions. That is called equality. Mr. Mackintosh, that is not hate, contempt or discrimination.

Nor would I allow a goat sacrifice to the Moon Gods. That being said, I do believe in public flogging of really stupid bureaucrats. Just to beat some sense into them. After a fair and public trial of course.
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