I shall be away from my desk for the next fortnight. That's two weeks, for US readers, or 1.4 decades (decimal ten-day weeks) for any Jacobin readers, and for that neatness enthusiast, Lord Howe of Aberavon, who must presumably be rather taken with ten-day weeks and ten-month years. So, after this contribution, I shall be posting only my Mail on Sunday column until Monday 5th June which I believe is Sextidi, 16ieme Prairial, the Day of the Carnation, in the year 220. Why didn’t this wheeze catch on the way litres and metres and kilograms did? I would myself have enjoyed the annual Feast of Opinion, which happens about a week before Michaelmas, during the Labour Party conference.
Please note the continuing tone of exasperated ‘why can’t you conform, you stick-in-the-mud old fool!’ tone of those who refuse to understand the desire of many people to retain customary measurements in daily life. My side has never sought to suppress or discourage the use of metric measures where people wish to use them, nor to stop them being taught in schools. Whereas the Metric fanatics seek actively to suppress knowledge and use of the customary system, knowing that without such totalitarian force they will never get people to prefer metric measures in daily life.
And in fact the British Weights and Measures association, which I have long supported, helped campaign for a bar selling German beer to be allowed to do so in litre and half-litre glasses, because that is what its customers preferred. This illustrates very well the difference between the two systems, and the difference between their supporters.
Before I go, I wish to publish (it is below) for a wider readership a long reply I gave to ‘Mev’ on an earlier thread (he is of course at liberty to reply at length if he wishes). I’ve revised it slightly since then.
I’d also like to mention to Mr Stephenson that the answers to his clever-silly questions about crime and prison, if he is really interested , which I doubt, are to be found in my book ‘A brief History of Crime’, though the argument is summarised here there are also some more recent figures on prison which I cited in a Mail on Sunday article on 5th June 2011 ‘: '96,710 criminals sentenced last year for more serious "indictable" offences had 15 or more previous crimes against their name. They included violent muggers, burglars and drug dealers. Of those, only 36 per cent - around 34,600 offenders - were given immediate custody.' So even after 15 or more previous offences, they won't put most of them away.’
By the way, why do I doubt a genuine curiosity? Because he quotes the statistic, invariably adduced without thought or curiosity by penal liberals, that Britain ‘imprisons more people than any other European country’. First of all, this comparison is not done as a percentage of the population, but on a per-thousand basis, and the difference is not very big. Secondly, it ignores the rather obvious fact that levels of crime and disorder are much higher here than in most of our European neighbours , thanks in my view largely to the state encouragement of fatherless families, the state sabotage of disciplined schooling, the disbanding of the old preventive police force, the deliberate enfeebling of the courts and prisons, and the 40-year endless failed experiment in drug decriminalisation which we are undergoing. Anyone who can quote this statistic as if it were a powerful argument has very probably chosen his side already.
One problem with crime statistics these days is that the old classic series have most been discontinued, that the old Home Office has been divided into two separate departments, and that what figures there are, are not compiled in such a way that information useful to conservatives is easily obtainable. The compilation and arrangement of statistics is as political as their publication, its timing and emphasis.
It often takes weeks to get quite simple information, and an MP known to me has run up against a blank wall in an attempt to discover the fates of persons arrested and convicted for Class ‘A’ drug offences.
Now to ‘Mev’, the would-be censor who claims he isn’t one. (By the way, another contributor makes the excellent point that if ‘Mev’ is capable of resisting what he regards as my wicked and false siren song, and boy, does he resist it, why does he presume that others don’t have the same mental equipment? Does he think my readers are too thick to be able to make up their own minds, or so thick that they will immediately be seduced by my dangerous arguments?)
‘Mev’ seems to want to persist in his battle, so here goes. He asked for it : I’ve interleaved my responses in his message, marking them **. 'Mev': Oh I'm 'absurd' am I, for asking perfectly reasonable and straightforward questions, which you then fail to answer, because you can't. **I am not sure what questions I have failed to answer. Perhaps he could set them out.
'Mev' : Charming. I do not wish to 'censor' anyone, thank you - please stop stating that falsehood - I believe in free speech. Is that plain enough for you?
**No, it isn’t. My experience of would-be censors is that they always declare that they favour free speech, before demanding measures to restrict it. A mere declaration in favour of free speech doesn’t, in my experience, mean anything unless it’s backed up by a willingness to see opinions the person dislikes, published unhampered in prominent places. The whole force of the argument from ‘Mev’ is that a major Tory-supporting newspaper is doing wrong by publishing my attacks on the Tory Party, unhampered and prominently. His requirement for some sort of ‘balance’ or other disclaimer would of course, if implemented, hamper my freedom of speech. It would also tend to make it less likely that I would be published at all. Any editor constrained by such conditions would eventually become reluctant to publish the material that required them to be met. If ‘Mev’ cannot see this, then he really needs to think a bit more. If he can, then he must see that what he desires is a form of censorship.
It’s also quite amusing that I am the only journalist in the country to whom he appears to want to apply his bizarre formula for ‘balance’. And gosh, I happen to be the only journalist in the country, with a major platform, who is prepared to urge conservative people to desert the Conservative Party.
Censorship does not always take the form of a government official with a blue pencil, striking out words he does not like. Censors and suppressors very rarely recognise themselves for what they are.
'Mev':Play the ball I'm playing, not the one you wish I'd play. I don't like your Don't Vote Tory campaign because it's built on completely ridiculous logic (now proven)
**I don’t think anything is ‘proven’, except that I was absolutely right to predict that the Tories couldn’t win the 2010 election.
‘Mev ‘ … that a new 'real' (your definition) conservative movement is ready to spring into formation if the present Conservative Party fails to achieve majority governments
**I have never said anything remotely so specific. I have said that the split and collapse of the Tory party, which I believe would have followed what I sought and argued for – the humiliation of the Tories at the polls in 2010 - was the *necessary* condition for such a thing to happen, not a *sufficient* condition, and I have said this time out of mind, on innumerable occasions. No regular reader here has any excuse for being in any doubt of that. The fact that ‘Mev’ misrepresents my position so completely must be due to a wilful failure of understanding in him. He doesn’t see what I say, because he doesn’t want to. He’s not listening, because he is too angry to do so. This is the very problem this posting addresses.
'Mev':. I object to this campaign because - quite plainly: 1. the Conservative Party would not simply disappear following a defeat (even several) - it would sit there taking 20-30 percent of the vote even if your Hitchens Party did suddenly materialize. Those members, councillors and MPS who’ve put in years of effort are not going to shut up shop just to please you. Nor would its voters all just switch to you. AND 2. - even if your new movement did get off the ground (it won’t) it would simply split the anti-socialist vote even further - leading to never ending Labour Governments.
**The first part of this is speculative. Once political parties cease to be able to deliver office at a national level, they shrivel away very quickly as the essential camp-followers, gong-hunters and placemen peel away in search of something else. So would the liberals and the social democrats who make up a large part of Parliamentary and local government Toryism. It is impossible for anyone to say with certainty how the Tories would in fact have responded to a Labour victory or a Lib-Lab coalition in 2010. I think there would have been a complete collapse in finance and organisation, followed by at least one split in the Parliamentary Conservative Party. But it didn’t happen, and there won’t be a similar opportunity ( arising as it would have to do from a fourth successive general election defeat) in my lifetime, so who can say?
**As for the second claim - ‘even if your(my) new movement did get off the ground…’ is again wilful misunderstanding. I have often pointed out that the collapse of the Tories , by my theory, could – if they were replaced by a genuinely patriotic, socially conservative, anti-crime, anti-mass immigration party - have been rapidly followed by the splitting and collapse of Labour. Labour (see the Regional Government referendum in the North East in 2004, thrown into the sea in a strong Labour area, by a vote of 696,519 to 197,310 ) is deeply vulnerable to a socially conservative challenge from anyone who is not the Tory Party.
**‘Mev’ likewise completely fails to grasp my basic point that the Tory party is now so hated that it is unsaveable by anyone or anything, and will never again hold a majority in a United Kingdom Parliament, regardless of what anyone, says or does. One of the main effects of the Tory survival in 2010 was to save the Labour Party, as a socially revolutionary, anti-British, pro-immigration, pro-crime formation. I hope ‘Mev’ is pleased to have achieved this awful thing.
'Mev' again :However – even before we ever get that far (and we never will) - it's quite apparent following your bold "you go first and I'll consider joining later" Call to Arms, last month, that this movement does not and will not ever exist
**Well, on that, I can’t necessarily disagree with him, though his description of my suggestion is false. The portents are gloomy, as none knows better than I. But one has to try to do something to keep hope alive. Given his confidence that I have failed and will fail, why does he seem so anxious to have me escorted everywhere I go by special minders saying 'He's wrong! He's wrong!'
Mev :Not one person has posted on your weblog that they have taken the first steps to set up the kind of committee that your proposed - and it would take an awful lot of committee members (and time and money) for it to even get one foot off the ground. Your idea is simply dead in the water, for all to see. PROVEN. FACT. There is no new movement ready to form.
**No, that’s not a ‘proven fact’. EVEN IN CAPITALS. It may yet take place. The next general election is surprisingly distant ( three years away), though many people are so weary of the current government they think it’s been in office for far longer. The Tory Party is already in grave difficulties, This government is in difficulties, the economy is in difficulties. How can he be so sure? He mustn’t mistake his own analysis of the possibilities for a proven fact. I don’t. That must be apparent now, even to you, even with your hands over your eyes and your fingers in your ears.
‘Mev’ : I DO object
**He may object away. IN BLOCK CAPITALS, IF HE LIKES. It’s a free country (though it won't be if he succeeds in censoring me as he wishes). But he shouldn’t imagine that, because he doesn’t like my opinions, he in some mysterious way acquires a moral right to legislate or demand special restrictions on the expression of my opinion.
'Mev': to you using your unique cuckoo like position at the heart of the middle class Sunday paper - to sway 'conservatives' away from their natural party – **Why am I a ‘cuckoo’? Why is it their ‘natural party’. What is the basis of this assertion? These people don't belong to the Tory Party, and the Tory Party doesn't own them or their votes. The Tory Party hates, despises and incessantly betrays the middle class readers of the Mail on Sunday, as I point out in detail, week by week by week. Even if it were their ‘natural party’ and many have deserted it, why should it continue to be? Whose interests does that serve? Not that of my readers.
'Mev': because 1. no pro-Conservative opponent is given the space (following page? or even sharing your pre-election page? Why not simply accept that challenge?)
**First of all, I am not the editor, and do not take such decisions. Secondly, if I were asked my opinion, I should say that the British media are a whole, of which my newspaper is a significant but by no means dominant part, and that the spread of the British media, including the overwhelmingly influential pro-Cameron BBC, includes legions of commentators who write what ‘Mev’ wants to read, and overwhelmingly counterbalance any effect I might have had. That’s why the Tories have survived for as long as they have, while trashing the hopes and desires of their ‘natural’ supporters.
** Secondly, for goodness’s sake, read the paper. It’s full of pro-Tory news stories and commentary .On election day, a full-page leading article, further forward in the paper, urged a Tory vote. I strongly suspect that ‘Mev’ doesn’t actually read the Mail on Sunday.
‘Mev’: to argue against your proposal / position and 2. because no leftwinger of equal 'standing' is doing the same as you’re doing to Labour voters in a leftwing paper – so that is an ‘unfair’ situation, in my opinion.
**That’s his opinion. Others have other opinions. Why should I be influenced by his opinion, based as it is on a wilful misreading of my position and a great deal of evident partisan, personal hostility?
'Mev': However, I have never called for you to be banned or 'silenced' though – so please stop falsely claiming that – just to distract people, and offer your sycophantic supporters ‘something’ to work with.
**No, because he doesn’t dare come out into the open with such a call. But see above.
‘Mev’ The only person ‘silencing’ you on the question of ‘how are the committees going?’ is YOU – because you have simply refused to answer or acknowledge the question – and that is the only ‘absurd’ thing here.
**He knows perfectly well what the answer is. Nothing has yet happened. I never imagined that there would be some kind of immediate surge. I was explaining how, when the opportunity arises, it could best be done. Does he think the crisis of the Tory Party is over? He is in for some surprises, if so.