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Robert "Rob" Gretton (15 January 1953 – 15 May 1999), was the manager of Joy Division and New Order. He was partner in and co-director of Factory Records and a founding partner of The Haçienda.
In 1977, Gretton became a leading figure in the Manchester punk scene with his involvement with Slaughter and the Dogs. He was DJ in Rafters club and manager of The Panik.
Gretton's involvement with the Manchester scene began when he contributed £200 to co-finance Slaughter and the Dogs' first single, the punk classic "Cranked Up Really High". After joining Factory Records in 1979 Gretton brought many new bands to the label, including Section 25, X-O-Dus, Crispy Ambulance, Stockholm Monsters, Minny Pops, The Names, Quando Quango, The Wake, 52nd Street and Happy Mondays.
In general, Gretton tended to prefer conventional bands with conventional songs, whereas Tony Wilson favoured avant-garde projects. The relationship between the pair is explored in depth in the book Shadowplayers by James Nice (2010).
New Order are an English rock band formed in 1980, currently consisting of founding members Bernard Sumner, Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert, alongside Phil Cunningham and Tom Chapman. The band was formed in 1980 by Sumner (vocals, guitars, keyboards and synthesisers), ex member Peter Hook (bass and vocals) and Morris (drums, electronic drums, keyboards and synthesizers) – the remaining members of post-punk group Joy Division, following the suicide of vocalist Ian Curtis – with the addition of Gilbert (keyboards, synthesizers and guitars).
By combining post-punk with an increasing influence from electronic dance music, New Order became one of the most critically acclaimed and influential bands of the 1980s. Though the band's early years were shadowed by the legacy and basic sound of Joy Division, their experience of the early 1980s New York City club scene increased their knowledge of dance music and helped them incorporate elements of that style into their work. The band's 1983 hit "Blue Monday", the best-selling 12-inch single of all time, is one example of how the band's sound became increasingly upbeat and electronic.
Are You Ready may refer to:
Actors: Mel Churcher (miscellaneous crew), Samantha Morton (actress), Alexandra Maria Lara (actress), Tim Plester (actor), Hakan Kousetta (miscellaneous crew), Julian Day (costume designer), Herbert Grönemeyer (actor), Anton Corbijn (director), Anton Corbijn (producer), Tony Wilson (producer), Neil Calder (miscellaneous crew), Al Mackay (miscellaneous crew), Toby Kebbell (actor), Paul Dray (miscellaneous crew), Richard Bremmer (actor),
Plot: Ian Curtis is a quiet and rather sad lad who works for an employment agency and sings in a band called Warsaw. He meets a girl named Debbie whom he promptly marries and his band, of which the name in the meantime has been changed to Joy Division, gets more and more successful. Even though Debbie and he become parents, their relationship is going downhill rapidly and Ian starts an affair with Belgium Annik whom he met after one of the gigs and he's almost never at home. Ian also suffers from epilepsy and has no-good medication for it. He doesn't know how to handle the feelings he has for Debbie and Annik and the pressure the popularity of Joy Division and the energy performing costs him.
Keywords: 1970s, adultery, attempted-suicide, band, band-manager, based-on-book, birth, childbirth, consulate, directorial-debutActors: Shirley Henderson (actress), Michael Winterbottom (director), Simon Pegg (actor), John Thomson (actor), Iggy Pop (actor), Henry Normal (producer), Steve Coogan (actor), John Lydon (actor), John Simm (actor), Keith Allen (actor), Andy Serkis (actor), Peter Kay (actor), Rob Brydon (actor), Pauline Burt (miscellaneous crew), Michael Winterbottom (editor),
Plot: Manchester 1976: Cambridge educated Tony Wilson, Granada TV presenter, is at a Sex Pistols gig. Totally inspired by this pivotal moment in music history, he and his friends set up a record label, Factory Records, signing first Joy Division (who go on to become New Order) then James and the Happy Mondays, who all become seminal artists of their time. What ensues is a tale of music, sex, drugs, larger-than-life characters, and the birth of one of the most famous dance clubs in the world, The Hacienda - a mecca for clubbers as famous as the likes of Studio 54. Graphically depicting the music and dance heritage of Manchester from the late 70's to the early 90's, this comedy documents the vibrancy that made Mad-chester the place in the world that you would most like to be.
Keywords: 1970s, 1980s, airplane, airport, anarchist, anarchy, animated-credits, anti-establishment, band, band-tourHilarious scene from "24 Hour Party People" (2002). Directed by Michael Winterbottom. Scene features Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson, Paddy Considine as Rob Gretton, and Lennie James as Alan Erasmus.
Very funny rant by Rob Gretton (played by Toby Kebbell) from the 2007 smash hit 'Control' based on the life of Ian Curtis, and events surrounding his life. The ledgend song writer and singer from the post-punk band from Macclesfield, England. Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you JOY DIVISION!
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
Top scene from the film 'Control'. Rob Gretton, played brilliantly by Toby Kebbell, introduces himself to the band!!!!
il manager dei Joy Division (Tratto dal film "Control")
A bizarre unreleased jam, recorded at Western Works Studio in September 1980, from New Order, featuring Cabaret Voltaire, entitled 'Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready for This?', featuring none other than ROB GRETTON on vocals!
New Order live at The Hacienda, 20 July 1983. 'Temptation'. Rob Gretton, RIP.
Dedicated to the memory of Ian Curtis, John Peel and Rob Gretton; New Order live performance of 'Transmission' at 2005 Glastonbury Festival.
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
New Order live at The Hacienda, 20 July 1983. 'Temptation'. Rob Gretton, RIP.
Very funny rant by Rob Gretton (played by Toby Kebbell) from the 2007 smash hit 'Control' based on the life of Ian Curtis, and events surrounding his life. The ledgend song writer and singer from the post-punk band from Macclesfield, England. Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you JOY DIVISION!
Joy Division Live at The Warehouse Preston, UK February 28, 1980 SBD - 2014 FageOner remaster of "Shadowplay" bootleg The "Shadowplay" bootleg is the best source for this gig, but unfortunately, many copies were subject to disk rot, i.e. degradation of sound quality and additional popping/clicking noise as the album goes on. Still, this is the best source for the show currently available. 1. Incubation 0:08 2. Wilderness 3:06 3. Twenty-Four Hours 6:37 4. The Eternal 11:23 5. Heart and Soul 20:04 (Pause, Dialogue) 23:31 6. Shadowplay 25:04 7. Transmission 28:55 8. Disorder 32:19 9. Warsaw 35:44 10. Colony 38:36 11. Interzone 43:09 12. She's Lost Control 45:38 As indicated by the surfaced setlist, the original set was to resemble the following gig at the Lyceum Ballroom much more, but the...
Hilarious scene from "24 Hour Party People" (2002). Directed by Michael Winterbottom. Scene features Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson, Paddy Considine as Rob Gretton, and Lennie James as Alan Erasmus.
John Simm stars as Bernard (Barney) Sumner, singer and founding member of Joy Division and New Order. Blown away by an unknown local band called the Sex Pistols, TV personality Tony Wilson (Steve Coogan) is inspired to invent a uniquely anarchic record label. Soon he's promoting everyone from New Order to Happy Mondays on his newly formed Factory Records...and partying like a rock star. 24 Hour Party People Official Movie Site: http://www.24hourpartypeople-themovie.com/ John Simm Society Website: http://www.johnsimmsociety.com John Simm Society on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ActorJohnSimm John Simm Society on Twitter: http://twitter.com/JohnSimmSociety
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
0:00 Turn Up The Heater 5:05 586 11:15 Too Late 14:50 We All Stand Peely incorrectly back-announces the first track and after announcing the second track says 'If we're wrong Rob, phone us again' - presumably Rob Gretton had called to correct him.
Joy Division Live at The Warehouse Preston, UK February 28, 1980 SBD - 2014 FageOner remaster of "Shadowplay" bootleg The "Shadowplay" bootleg is the best source for this gig, but unfortunately, many copies were subject to disk rot, i.e. degradation of sound quality and additional popping/clicking noise as the album goes on. Still, this is the best source for the show currently available. 1. Incubation 0:08 2. Wilderness 3:06 3. Twenty-Four Hours 6:37 4. The Eternal 11:23 5. Heart and Soul 20:04 (Pause, Dialogue) 23:31 6. Shadowplay 25:04 7. Transmission 28:55 8. Disorder 32:19 9. Warsaw 35:44 10. Colony 38:36 11. Interzone 43:09 12. She's Lost Control 45:38 As indicated by the surfaced setlist, the original set was to resemble the following gig at the Lyceum Ballroom much more, but the...
Joy Division Live Electric Ballroom London, UK October 26, 1979 AUD Duncan tape. His master-tape was lost in Rob Gretton's personal collection. Two other AUDs are known to exist but have not surfaced. 1. I Remember Nothing 0:20 2. Love Will Tear Us Apart 6:30 3. Wilderness 10:37 4. Colony 13:52 5. Insight 17:42 6. Day of the Lords 22:04 7. Shadowplay 26:50 8. She's Lost Control 30:52 9. Transmission 34:47 10. Disorder 37:42 11. Atrocity Exhibition 41:10 Encore Break 48:00 12. Interzone 49:28 “Transmission” cuts out. Some versions have it spliced.
New Order Western Works Studio Demos September 7, 1980 Analog Loyalist's 2012 Remaster 1. Dreams Never End (Mix 1) 2. Dreams Never End (Mix 2) 3. Homage 4. Ceremony 5. Truth 6. Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready For This? Bernard Sumner Peter Hook Stephen Morris Rob Gretton - vocals on "Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready For This?" VERY long explanations by the legendary Analog Loyalist in the following posts: http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2009/04/homage-new-order-western-works-980.html http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-order-western-works-demos-followup.html http://archive.new-order.net/2012/08/7-sept-1980-western-works-sheffield.html
"Pumped Full of Drugs" DVD opening music Confusion Love Vigilantes We All Stand As It Is When It Was Sub-Culture Face Up Sunrise This Time Of Night Blue Monday Film Director [Shoot] – Anthony Wilson* Film Editor – Hidetake Ogo Film Producer [Video Production] – Japan Audiovisual Network Inc. Other [Prime Mover] – Rob Gretton Performer – Bernard Sumner, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris
Full bootleg. Sourced from FLAC but converted to WAV for this video. 1. In a Lonely Place 0:00 2. Cries and Whispers 4:35 3. Hour 8:24 4. Procession 11:05 5. Truth 13:45 6. Mesh 19:14 7. Dreams Never End 22:16 8. Ceremony 26:06 Live at Maxwell's, Hoboken, New Jersey, USA (September 20, 1980). Soundboard recording. Bernard Sumner Peter Hook Stephen Morris Another recently released JD/NO recording, on another bootleg. This time, we got a soundboard recording of a 1980 New Order show, right after Ian's suicide and before Gillian Gilbert joined the band. This gig took place during the first American tour. This period was notable for the fact all three members of the band would take turns singing the songs. Thus, you get singing from everyone. I'm sad to say neither Peter or Stephen sing t...
Scots law is the legal system of Scotland. It is a hybrid or mixed legal system, containing civil law and common law elements, that traces its roots to a number of different historical sources. Together with English law and Northern Ireland law, it is one of the three legal systems of the United Kingdom. It shares some elements with the two other systems, but it also has its own unique sources, institutions and nomen juris. Early Scots law before the 12th century consisted of the different legal traditions of the various cultural groups that inhabited the country at the time, the Gaels in most of the country, with the Britons and Anglo-Saxons in some districts south of the Forth and with the Norse in the islands and north of the River Oykel. The introduction of feudalism from the 12th cent...
Professor Rob Moodie speaks on "Profits and Pandemics" at The Graduate House for our November Monthly Luncheon.
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
Very funny rant by Rob Gretton (played by Toby Kebbell) from the 2007 smash hit 'Control' based on the life of Ian Curtis, and events surrounding his life. The ledgend song writer and singer from the post-punk band from Macclesfield, England. Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you JOY DIVISION!
This was the last time I interviewed Anthony H Wilson in 2005 after an interval of 25 years and I thought it a fitting tribute to his gobby, contentious, life affirming personality. Talking here about the foundation of Factory Records with Rob Gretton, Joy Division, New Order, Bernard Sumner, black music and the genius of record producer Martin Hannett.
Hilarious scene from "24 Hour Party People" (2002). Directed by Michael Winterbottom. Scene features Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson, Paddy Considine as Rob Gretton, and Lennie James as Alan Erasmus.
Peter Hook says Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce of the Smiths warned him that his lawsuit against the other members of New Order would be a nightmare - and it is. Oh, and Hooky's wife brings a duck into the room.
John Simm stars as Bernard (Barney) Sumner, singer and founding member of Joy Division and New Order. Blown away by an unknown local band called the Sex Pistols, TV personality Tony Wilson (Steve Coogan) is inspired to invent a uniquely anarchic record label. Soon he's promoting everyone from New Order to Happy Mondays on his newly formed Factory Records...and partying like a rock star. 24 Hour Party People Official Movie Site: http://www.24hourpartypeople-themovie.com/ John Simm Society Website: http://www.johnsimmsociety.com John Simm Society on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ActorJohnSimm John Simm Society on Twitter: http://twitter.com/JohnSimmSociety
Top scene from the film 'Control'. Rob Gretton, played brilliantly by Toby Kebbell, introduces himself to the band!!!!
Joy Division covers band Permanence visited Wellington, so I lured them into the bar's basement for a quick interview before their incredible gig. https://www.facebook.com/PERMANENCEband For more stuff from me, subscribe now and visit ... ☥ My Website: http://www.itsblackfriday.co.uk ☥ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/itisblackfriday ☥ Tumblr: http://itsblackfriday.tumblr.com ☥ Ask: http://ask.fm/itsblackfriday ☥ Twitter: http://twitter.com/ItsBlack_Friday ☥ Instagram: http://instagram.com/itsblackfriday Music: ☥ Joy Division - Love Will tear Us Apart (Instrumental) ☥ Joy Division - Twenty Four Hours (Instrumental) ☥ Joy Division - Ceremony (Instrumental)
Hilarious scene from "24 Hour Party People" (2002). Directed by Michael Winterbottom. Scene features Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson, Paddy Considine as Rob Gretton, and Lennie James as Alan Erasmus.
Very funny rant by Rob Gretton (played by Toby Kebbell) from the 2007 smash hit 'Control' based on the life of Ian Curtis, and events surrounding his life. The ledgend song writer and singer from the post-punk band from Macclesfield, England. Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you JOY DIVISION!
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
Top scene from the film 'Control'. Rob Gretton, played brilliantly by Toby Kebbell, introduces himself to the band!!!!
il manager dei Joy Division (Tratto dal film "Control")
A bizarre unreleased jam, recorded at Western Works Studio in September 1980, from New Order, featuring Cabaret Voltaire, entitled 'Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready for This?', featuring none other than ROB GRETTON on vocals!
New Order live at The Hacienda, 20 July 1983. 'Temptation'. Rob Gretton, RIP.
A short film made by New Order in 1984 featuring interviews with Tony Wilson, Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville, Bruce Mitchell, Liz Naylor, Larry Cassidy, Richard Boon, Derrick Johnson, Mike Pickering, Howard Jones, Pete Shelley, Michael Schamberg, Cath Carroll, Andy Connell, Gonnie Rietveld and many others. Includes three live performances of New Order at the Haçienda. 09:46 - Lonesome Tonight 23:54 - Temptation 37:22 - Thieves Like Us
0:00 Turn Up The Heater 5:05 586 11:15 Too Late 14:50 We All Stand Peely incorrectly back-announces the first track and after announcing the second track says 'If we're wrong Rob, phone us again' - presumably Rob Gretton had called to correct him.
Joy Division Live at The Warehouse Preston, UK February 28, 1980 SBD - 2014 FageOner remaster of "Shadowplay" bootleg The "Shadowplay" bootleg is the best source for this gig, but unfortunately, many copies were subject to disk rot, i.e. degradation of sound quality and additional popping/clicking noise as the album goes on. Still, this is the best source for the show currently available. 1. Incubation 0:08 2. Wilderness 3:06 3. Twenty-Four Hours 6:37 4. The Eternal 11:23 5. Heart and Soul 20:04 (Pause, Dialogue) 23:31 6. Shadowplay 25:04 7. Transmission 28:55 8. Disorder 32:19 9. Warsaw 35:44 10. Colony 38:36 11. Interzone 43:09 12. She's Lost Control 45:38 As indicated by the surfaced setlist, the original set was to resemble the following gig at the Lyceum Ballroom much more, but the...
Joy Division Live Electric Ballroom London, UK October 26, 1979 AUD Duncan tape. His master-tape was lost in Rob Gretton's personal collection. Two other AUDs are known to exist but have not surfaced. 1. I Remember Nothing 0:20 2. Love Will Tear Us Apart 6:30 3. Wilderness 10:37 4. Colony 13:52 5. Insight 17:42 6. Day of the Lords 22:04 7. Shadowplay 26:50 8. She's Lost Control 30:52 9. Transmission 34:47 10. Disorder 37:42 11. Atrocity Exhibition 41:10 Encore Break 48:00 12. Interzone 49:28 “Transmission” cuts out. Some versions have it spliced.
New Order Western Works Studio Demos September 7, 1980 Analog Loyalist's 2012 Remaster 1. Dreams Never End (Mix 1) 2. Dreams Never End (Mix 2) 3. Homage 4. Ceremony 5. Truth 6. Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready For This? Bernard Sumner Peter Hook Stephen Morris Rob Gretton - vocals on "Are You Ready Are You Ready Are You Ready For This?" VERY long explanations by the legendary Analog Loyalist in the following posts: http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2009/04/homage-new-order-western-works-980.html http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-order-western-works-demos-followup.html http://archive.new-order.net/2012/08/7-sept-1980-western-works-sheffield.html
"Pumped Full of Drugs" DVD opening music Confusion Love Vigilantes We All Stand As It Is When It Was Sub-Culture Face Up Sunrise This Time Of Night Blue Monday Film Director [Shoot] – Anthony Wilson* Film Editor – Hidetake Ogo Film Producer [Video Production] – Japan Audiovisual Network Inc. Other [Prime Mover] – Rob Gretton Performer – Bernard Sumner, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris
Full bootleg. Sourced from FLAC but converted to WAV for this video. 1. In a Lonely Place 0:00 2. Cries and Whispers 4:35 3. Hour 8:24 4. Procession 11:05 5. Truth 13:45 6. Mesh 19:14 7. Dreams Never End 22:16 8. Ceremony 26:06 Live at Maxwell's, Hoboken, New Jersey, USA (September 20, 1980). Soundboard recording. Bernard Sumner Peter Hook Stephen Morris Another recently released JD/NO recording, on another bootleg. This time, we got a soundboard recording of a 1980 New Order show, right after Ian's suicide and before Gillian Gilbert joined the band. This gig took place during the first American tour. This period was notable for the fact all three members of the band would take turns singing the songs. Thus, you get singing from everyone. I'm sad to say neither Peter or Stephen sing t...
Scots law is the legal system of Scotland. It is a hybrid or mixed legal system, containing civil law and common law elements, that traces its roots to a number of different historical sources. Together with English law and Northern Ireland law, it is one of the three legal systems of the United Kingdom. It shares some elements with the two other systems, but it also has its own unique sources, institutions and nomen juris. Early Scots law before the 12th century consisted of the different legal traditions of the various cultural groups that inhabited the country at the time, the Gaels in most of the country, with the Britons and Anglo-Saxons in some districts south of the Forth and with the Norse in the islands and north of the River Oykel. The introduction of feudalism from the 12th cent...
Professor Rob Moodie speaks on "Profits and Pandemics" at The Graduate House for our November Monthly Luncheon.