32nd Degree Freemason Interview #3 ► The Mysteries Pt 22 ►William Cooper ► 05.18.1993

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[WC]: And, in fact, most Masons are really only guilty of joining an organization they know nothing about and for giving it protection and favor and helping it along. But they really don't know what it's all about, do they? [WM]: True, true, they don't. They're as ignorant as I was, and if they're out there listening, I'd like to say that you can follow the exact same path I have followed. Now that you know the truth about the Craft--whether you believe me or not--you should go out and verify for yourself. And once you do verify for yourself, you are no longer bound by those oaths, either. They are fraudulent and they are ridiculous, unreasonable and brutal in may ways. [WC]: Not only that, but once you do know about it, you are no longer innocent, but you are...if you don't do something about it, or leave the Lodge, or do as this young gentleman is doing, help us to relieve ourselves from the yolk of these secret societies who are planning on stripping us of our freedoms and our rights. If you don't, then you are...then you are a fellow conspirator and are just as guilty as those who have always known, and you better understand that, because I'm telling you right now, patriots in this country are getting fed up. And the purpose of this show is to prevent bloodshed. We want to wake people up and do something about this while we can, legally and lawfully. Because, folks, there will come a day when people will not take it anymore, and they will take weapons in hand, unfortunately. Uh, we can see it coming. Anybody with half a brain can look around and talk to people, and see that that day is going to come. Because nothing is getting better, it's only getting worse, and we don't want that to happen. That's why we're doing this. That's why I've dedicated my life, and that's why I've suffered so much in my life, to try and wake people up, is to prevent that kind of thing. And they are dead set on seeing their dream come true, aren't they, Will? [WM]: They have dedicated their lives, their labors and, indeed, their entire faith to this, and you have not exaggerated or overrated the problem at all. This is dangerous, people. These men mean business. The Scottish Rite themselves have taken a public stance totally in support of public education by the government. Now, all you need to do is look at how screwed up your schools are, and then turn around and look at how screwed up your kids are, and you've got a big, big, rich organization out there with incredible political power and widespread influence that is supporting this current failed system. This is just one, isolated example. If you are not part of the solution and you have even been, just [a tiny bit] exposed to the truth, then you are part of the problem. [WC]: That's correct, and we know that public education, conducted and supervised and organized and funded by the government, is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto, written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Now, why would Americans ever support such a thing? The strength of our educational system, before it began to self-destruct, was that is always handled, funded, and governed, and maintained, and approved, and anything else on a local level. In other words, the school system in my town might be different from the school system in someone else's town a hundred miles away, but it would controlled, governed, decided, textbooks would be chosen, everything, on a local level. Our schools did not begin to self-destruct until the state got into the school system, and then the federal government began to poke into it and, specifically, when teachers' colleges by the Carnegie, the Ford and the Rockefeller Institutes began to change what they taught teachers to teach children. And when that happened, when it became an organized, funded, dictated to, type thing [sic], then it began to fall apart. And the less control on the local level, the less our children are educated. [WM]: You've hit the nail right on the head. As you've stated in your own book, Behold a Pale Horse, the true enemy is not Communism, but Illuminism.