The revolution will not be sober

  • Posted on: 28 March 2016
  • By: Anonymous (not verified)

The revolution will not be sober: the problem with notions of “radical sobriety” & “intoxication culture”

From HIV HEPC Anarchist - By Zoë Dodd & Alexander McClelland

As radicals and writers working on issues of criminalization and drug liberation, we believe that altering the relationships we have with our minds and bodies through substance use is a form of resistance and emancipation. For us, drug liberation is the emancipation of drugs deemed illegal and the people who use them from the control of the state and social structures. In our experience, drug use can facilitate authentic, compassionate, and emotionally bonded social relationships that are not possible otherwise. Drug use can be therapeutic and provide autonomy outside of the pathologizing system of western medicine for coping with trauma and difficult life experiences. Within an economic system that relies on our bodies as a tool of production under a capitalist rationality, getting high can be a tactic for survival, a therapeutic practice, and an active refusal to engage with capitalism.

Maximizing our own pleasure by getting high can be a political imperative when we live in a society that is organized around viewing our bodies and minds as a form of capital. Under a capitalist logic, pleasure as an end unto itself is often viewed as dangerous, selfish, problematic, and destructive. But for thousands of years people have been using all kinds of drugs and substances to alter their relationships with their minds, bodies, with each other, and with their physical environments. Drugs were (and still are) used for ceremonial purposes to expand people’s relationship to land, expand worldviews, and as forms of healing medicine. Drugs have been widely used for years within communities of self-proclaimed queers, dykes, fags, gender radicals, freaks, skids, and punks to fuck with the ways in which society understands how we are supposed to act and be in the world. It is via practices of colonization, the introduction of capitalism, liberal legal frameworks, and the proliferation of western medicine that certain kinds of drug use have been arbitrarily pathologized and highly regulated, producing moralistic notions of illicit drugs, “addiction”, and the “addict”.

Because of our experience as drug users, radicals and writers, as well as our historical and political understanding of drug use, we have been increasingly concerned about the emergence of “radical sobriety” and “intoxication culture” discussions among a range of anarchists and queer activists that have been proliferating online, at conferences, and in social spaces.  These discussions are marked by the convergence of certain forms of anarchism, queer identity politics, and addiction recovery language. All wrapped up, this comes to produce a political logic that we believe is disconnected from history, from drug user rights movements, and could result in a form of politics that is potentially damaging to people who use drugs. With our analysis, we want to make it clear that we understand that these issues are deeply personal for some people, and we do not wish to undermine any one person’s experience with substance use and their own autonomy, but rather, we seek to analyze how notions of “radical sobriety” and “intoxication culture” are taken up as a cultural and political project. For clarity, when we reference drugs and substances in this article, we are talking about a wide range of natural and synthetic drugs, including alcohol, which people use for a range of differing reasons.


What is “radical sobriety” and “intoxication culture”?      

In a politicized context, the concept of “radical sobriety” has come to be a way that some people are engaging with the language of addiction recovery in a range of activist communities. According to the Facebook page for the group Radical Sobriety Montreal, “it’s a grassroots response to the reality of widespread addiction in our communities and our lives”, and “believing that the personal is political, we try to engage with our addictions within the framework of radical political analysis”. As noted on the blog post Radical Sobriety: Situating the Discussion, these groups understand that “sobriety is central to morality”, and this approach to understanding abstinence from substance use is aimed at addressing “inebriation as a root of social problems, especially in a drug culture”. Within a radical sobriety framework, drugs are produced by a capitalist system and are being used as a tool of oppression against a range of communities. Soberness is understood as being closer to our natural human state prior to the emergence of oppressive forms of social organization. Here drugs are understood as producing false experiences, and authenticity in social and political relationships must be brought about through being sober. People from these groups address drug use as providing “an artificially altered state of mind” which produces “numbness to sensations and feelings”.

This politicized recovery framework uses the language of 12-step programs such as Alcoholics and Narcotics Anonymous, which ask members to claim a “ sober addict” identity. But, radical sobriety groups take this further, understanding the “addict” as a static political identity category and mobilize “safer space” language to claim accessibility entitlement to a range of spaces to accommodate their soberness. Claiming the identity of the “ sober addict” for “radical sobriety” people is a political practice to mobilize resistance against “intoxication culture”. Within “radical sobriety” groups, countering the pervasiveness of  “intoxication culture” is a political project, as this negative “culture” is understood as oppressing communities and undermining the political aims of the radical left. For these people, “intoxication culture” is understood as a “tool of colonization”, and as driven by patriarchal and heteronormative rape culture. This culture is understood to dominate and promotes drinking and forms of drug use in a range of everyday activities and social spaces, such as at sporting events and dance parties.

In the context of “radical sobriety” discussions, sobriety is, as noted in the presentation Sobriety as Accessibility: Interrogating Intoxication Culture, “considered as a form of accessibility and resistance”. As further explained on the blog post Intoxication Culture is a Bore: “If you believe in accessibility, inclusivity and justice then it is your responsibility as a normative drinker to make space for people who can’t and don’t drink”. The result of claiming addiction as an accessibility issue is that people who are not self-described “addicts”, and whom use substances, are constructed as having a form of privilege that those who are not “addicted” do not have access. The language of accessibility and privilege are mobilized to call claims for safe spaces for the “radically sober”.

Using a monolithic notion of “culture”, this approach also sees “intoxication culture” as producing the “addict”. To reclaim the notion of the “sober addict”, “radical sobriety“ groups use the language of disability rights scholars and activists who understand disability as being produced socially and not as an individual issue. This approach has been very productive for many important and powerful disability rights groups and other accessibility rights groups in focusing attention away from individual and people’s different bodies and abilities, to rather address the barriers in society that produce understandings of ability and disability, and accessibility and inaccessibility. Within a accessibility framework, the political project comes to be organized around calls for social change to enable new ways of accommodating a range of abilities and to enable forms of accessibility, such as making spaces wheelchair accessible or making events pay-what-you-can.

In some of their discussions, “radical sobriety” people also have a somewhat nuanced understanding of the social complexities around substance use, as that was originally developed by people working in harm reduction and drug user rights movements. For example,  “radical sobriety” groups will sometimes state that addiction is exacerbated by social issues such as lack of housing and poverty, they critique how western medicine understands the individualization of addiction, they talk about the differential effects of the drug hierarchy based on class, race and gender, and they talk about how people who use drugs are considered disposable in society. 


image


But despite possibly good intentions, the problem is that more broadly these “radical sobriety” discussions could cause damage to people who use drugs, including people who use drugs in radical organizing spaces. The problem is that this new discourse is ahistorical and could be furthering moralistic and stigmatizing attitudes and practices. The problem is that there are major flaws in the arguments of “radical sobriety”, which fail to address key political targets and forms of analysis. Thus, instead of uncritically accepting the ideas that it is proposing, we find ourselves with the imperative to interrogate “radical sobriety”.



Concerns with the discourse of “radical sobriety and “intoxication culture”

For decades, groups of people who use drugs have been organizing in collectives to address a range of vital issues impacting their lives, such as working to change damaging criminal laws, barriers to healthcare, and to alter the negative social perception of active drugs users. These groups work with an ethic of “nothing about us, without us” and they have radically transformed policies and approaches, such as initiating harm reduction as a widespread non-judgmental approach to support drug users to realize their own health and claim agency over their lives.  Based on this movement, other radicals working on issues related to drugs have an imperative to engage with and understand work of drug user organizers (outside of one’s personal drug history and personal needs to be high or remain sober).

Despite coming from the individual perspective of past drug use, the discourse of the “radically sober” fails to account for (and completely negates) the experiences of active drug users and the decades of experience of drug user organizers. For example, for many years, movements of people who drugs, including the International Network of People Who Use Drug (INPUD), the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users (VANDU), L’Association Québécoise pour la promotion de la santé des personnes utilisatrices de drogues (AQPSUD), and the Toronto Drug Users Union (TDUU) have critiqued notions of addiction and have called for an end to the use of the term “addict”. Drug user movements actively call for a shift away from conceptualizing drug use in terms of “addiction”, as this approach has been used to pathologize, medicalize and criminalize drug users. These groups have highlighted that the language of “addiction” does not allow the space for real discussion of the myriad experiences of substance use in people’s lives. This results in a view that understands all drug use as a problem that needs any number of forms of expertise to correct through recovery programs, drug courts, criminal sanctions, and medical rehabilitation.

When engaging with movements of people who use drugs, perspectives on the concept of “addiction” and the political objectives that are needed to achieve emancipation are vastly different than those who engage in “radical sobriety”. In the view of many proponents of recovery, such as people involved in “radical sobriety”, people who are understood to become “addicts” are the product of a dominant culture that promotes popularized  forms of drug use. In their view, substance use keeps various marginalized populations oppressed, and emancipation is thus achieved through being sober. But this understanding is divorced from the history of colonization, liberal legal frameworks and medicalization. As many active drug users know, drug use is not inherently connected to “addiction” or problematic use, for example, 80-90% of people who use drugs do not have a problem with their substance use. Ideas about “addiction” being based in science are flawed and has been disproven (read the work of Carl Hart and get back to us) Drug use only became understood as something that is “wrong” when specific frameworks of morality were developed and imposed onto groups of people who used drugs.

Notions of “addiction” and the “addict” have been constructed over time by white, wealthy moral authorities such as religious groups, medical experts, psychologists, politicians, police and criminal justice systems. Mobilizing negative, pathologizing ideas of “addiction” and the “addict” has been part of the projects of colonization and other forms of social control of poor people and people of colour. This kind of pathologizing people has led to the to rise of forms of treatment detention and forced treatment. It is the fear of the “addict” which people use so as to continue to scapegoat and attack. The idea of the highly racialized, classed and gendered “addict” has the ability and power to strip people of all of their other identities and becomes the only focus for understanding the individual. This logic is what forces people on welfare to be drug tested, children to be removed from their homes, and people locked up for what they put in their bodies (despite no harm to anyone else). With this understanding, the “tool of colonization” is not substance use, but rather an oppressive system of laws and institutions organized around controlling and incapacitating groups of people deemed different, specifically those who do not fit within a moral and capitalist logic.

Drug users rights organizations understand that we need liberation from oppressive structures, which act to classify, control, and criminalize people who use drugs. Here it is not about focusing on an individuals right to sobriety, but rather on the end to the war on drugs through the repeal of criminal laws, rejection of western medical categories, and the reform of notions of recovery.

Through continuing to mobilize notions of “addiction” and “addict”, as well as not engaging with or accounting for the legacy of activism by drug user rights movements, so-called radicals in the “radical sobriety” movement could be unwittingly promoting the aims of the ongoing colonial project and furthering a pathologizing logic which results in criminalizing people who use drugs and denying them agency over their lives. These are major concerns for those working in activist communities, especially for those who are working to address issues of damaging laws, prisons, mass incarceration, criminalization, health-care access, and forms of social marginalization that are driven by pathologizing attitudes towards people who use drugs.



Identity politics and the “sober addict”

We keep seeing more and more claims for accessibility for activist and social spaces for people who claim “radical sobriety” as an identity, and we feel concerned.  These claims come in the form of Facebook posts to event organizers asking for events to be made accessible for sober people, workshops at anarchist and radical events, zines and blogs. Identity categories are not inherently natural, and they are not static. They can be fluid, develop over time, and can also be produced through a range of forms of domination.  It can be claimed that people making arguments against forms of identity politics are trying to negate the experiences of people who take on certain identities. In our case, we must stress that this could not be further from the truth. We are not against anyone’s personal imperative to stake claim on an identity, and we have also used identity categories to make political claims in our activist work.  But, in this context, we do question the outcome of using this kind of politic. The problem is that in some cases identity politics can result in a sole focus on the maintenance of identity formations rather than on broader forms of emancipation.

Within “radical sobriety” the “sober addict” has become a static identity category that then becomes part of a place for one to talk about personal issues of accessibility and other people’s privilege who are using drugs. But as we have stated, mobilizing notions of the  “addict” marginalizes people who are active drug users. “Radical sobriety” people position the “sober addict” as emancipated, but also continually oppressed within the “intoxication culture”. The “sober addict” then needs to be accommodated as a rights and social justice issue. Other people’s drug use is a privilege and needs to be checked. This sets up a dualism where accessibility is only articulated in relation to the “radically sober” person, and where accessibility for people who are active drug users is rarely considered. The focus becomes not on talking about liberation from the various forms of marginalization that have created precarity in the lives of people who use drugs, or on the conditions that have produced notions of “addiction”, but rather, the focus is attuned to maintaining the oppressed identity of the “sober addict” who is entitled to forms of accommodation, such as making social spaces or events sober, or to have specific spaces for sober people at events. 


image


A longstanding critique of identity-based strategies is that they have the potential to produce an “essential” experience of identities that can erase other experience in the process. Also, with identity politics, confessions of individual difference and call-outs about privilege can become the political project themselves. For example, the statement “I am ________ and I am a sober addict” actually does nothing to dismantle the systems of oppression surrounding people who use drugs or other forms of power and privilege. Here being “oppressed” holds a certain cultural and social capital for people in particular activist contexts. People thus aspire to be oppressed, where the goal is not an end to oppression, but rather to be as oppressed as possible. This political project can miss a broader critique of history, economy and society, as political targets. This approach to activism has been widely critiqued as promoting neoliberal aims through its endless attention to the individualist liberal notions of human rights.

Also, in this context, the monolithic notion of “intoxication culture” as promoted by “radical sobriety” people poses a problem. There are many cultures for which using forms of drugs are traditional, sacred, and a regular part of people’s daily lives. We need to understand the plurality of cultures. Culture is not homogeneous. Prescribing moral frameworks onto cultures to define if they are good or bad based on how people use drugs within them can employ a racist, classist and colonizing logic. We need to accept that a wide range of people from diverse communities use recreational drugs for a range of reasons. Buying into the notion of the “addict” buys into oppressive models and allows no room and space for people who want to engage in substance use in different ways.

People need a range of spaces to exist in. We are not opposed to sober spaces, and we are not opposed to people creating their own spaces to accommodate what they need. We are not interested in is that kind of dichotomous way of understanding activism. Buying into the moralistic frameworks designed to marginalize and oppress people who actively use drugs will never be a radical act. Anti-drug sentiments have been used historically to exclude active drug users from a range of activist movements. This is why we find the “radical sobriety” discourse so concerning. We are concerned about people who use drugs feeling unwelcome in activist organizing and social spaces. Active drug users are often highly marginalized from activist communities and radical social spaces because they make people feel uncomfortable. We need a more emancipatory framework that can support a range of people’s needs without creating dividing lines and claiming identities that result in othering and marginalization.  


Recovery as a form of oppression

“Radical sobriety” discussions are organized around the basic principles of mainstream prohibitionist recovery programs such as Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous and other 12-step programs. “Radical sobriety” discussions, while having some critiques of these approaches, also adopt the primary approach of these interventions which understand addiction as a disease that needs to be corrected solely through individual intervention. To believe that “addiction” is a disease is also to believe that “addiction” is a life-long “problem”. A focus on the individual failing of certain people results in a corrective logic that is aimed at fixing or forcing that person to change to better fit into society. This is an idea that we know to be a myth, a myth that obscures how notions of “addiction” and “dependency” come to be constructed. This is a widely popular and very damaging misconception, which continues to fuel prohibitionist policies and the drug war. 

A society based on capitalism generates enormous wealth and at the same time breaks down every traditional form of social cohesion, creates dislocation, and social isolation, poverty and also pathologizes notions of “dependency”. The idea of “dependency” is a construct born out of liberal individualism, where every person is an island, and the ideal is the autonomous rational subject. When the reality is that dependency is “normal” or rather is constitutive of what it is to be human. We all depend on others and things, and only exist in relation to others and things.

Defining an individual as the problem, as an “addict” with a disease that has no self-control has allowed communities and governments to get off the hook for taking care of each other. Recovery programs are not designed to help aspects of society change to address forms of oppression and violence, which could drive people to use drugs in ways that they may feel are problematic. Within a capitalist framework, beyond Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, many recovery programs generate a massive amount of wealth for certain groups of people. But generally, individualized recovery programs are the only models out there. While some of these options provide a sense of community and solidarity for people, the foundation of recovery programs continues to drive a pathologizing logic that needs to be challenged.  


Drug use can be a radical act

“Radical sobriety” people have named our experiences while high as “inauthentic”. This naming of others experiences employs a colonizing and paternalistic logic, and the same kind of moralism that leads to criminalization and pathologization. Notions of the “right” way to be and the “wrong” way to be are what drive practices of exclusion targeting people who actively use drugs. Shouldn’t promoting personal autonomy and self-determination be central to our commitment to working to change society for the better? Shouldn’t radicals allow people to claim their own experiences for themselves? Shouldn’t radicals understand that people must be allowed agency over their own bodies; to ingest what they want, when they want? If so, then why engage with systems that prescribe forms of morality over others? Certain kinds of radical political organizers do turn towards forms of morality politics. We have seen this happen to radical movements that moralize bodies - from women’s temperance movements to anti-pornography feminism in the 80’s to sex work abolitionists of today. But morality politics is always a tool of the conservative right, and can never be successfully used by the radical left as these approaches produce the conditions of their own demise. They produce the possibility of cooptation by liberal moderates, and exploitation of their morality by the conservative right - who truly have the authority over cultures of morality, and have the greatest experience in mobilizing morality for their own political gains. Further moralizing forms of drug use will only result in more danger and insecurity in our lives.

There are no doubts that drug control policies have also been mobilized as a tool of oppression. But we must understand these issues are not inherent in the drugs themselves, it is a broader system of oppression which needs to be dismantled and this includes the liberation of drugs (i.e. the removal of laws and forms of morality which result in the social exclusion of people who actively use drugs).  We can’t rely on oppressive institutions to define our activist work. We need to build our own ways, through creating circles of care and new forms of harm reduction support for those who need it. We need to create space for people to come together to foster new forms of healing and social connection.

We need to bring pleasure back in to discussion of drug use. We know that our experiences while high are authentic, real and have been powerful. Altering reality can bring beauty, magic, transcendence and new understandings to our daily lives. Radicals of all sorts have used drugs to enable themselves to question how things are organized and to be critical of the world around them. People politically organize in many kinds of spaces including bars, workplaces, parties, and community spaces while intoxicated. Organizing does not happen through one homogeneous experience. Intoxication does not negate the nature of people’s ability to be authentic, to go in the world, be a good organizer, or get shit done.



Thank you to wonderful Eliot Ross Albers, Ian Bradley-Perrin, Nora Butler Burke, Liam Michaud, Zachary Grant and Kate Mason for your thoughtful and invaluable support and feedback during the development of this article.


Note: The first image was taken by the authors. The second and third images are from the Radical Sobriety Montreal Facebook page.

category: 

Comments

That's all well and good but I feel like when people talk about this they're primarily talking about booze - the only legal high - which really IS a problem and isn't really discussed here, despite its prevalence . (I might be wrong - I don't know Montreal...)

How is it possible that in an article like this your only mention of addiction is to dismiss it as not based in science? That's ridiculous, even if you can hyperlink to some fucking guy who says that. Most people who try to politicize their sobriety do so because they themselves experienced harm from drug and alcohol use, because either they or someone they love struggles with addiction, not because they read a fucking zine.

You're right that a large majority of people's drug use (just like alcohol) does not create problems for them, but by creating a social milieu where those behaviours are wide spread, with social pressure to do them (especially booze), you're setting up a minority of people for some real struggles with addictive shit.

I barely drink or use drugs any more for two main reasons:
-one that I understand the role drugs and alcohol have played in projects of colonizations and specifically in the destruction of my ancestors' society. Their line 'the revolution will not be sober' is fucking stupid - the revolution also isn't going to grow from addiction.
-Two that I've seen a lot of people I care about start using or drinking socially and end up with some serious addiction that took them years to get out of, if they were ever able to. The people who created the social context for casual, no-problems drug use very rarely stick around to deal with the wreckage it creates for some.

No one's saying we should stigmatize people who drink or use drugs (though for some reason you don't talk about alcohol in here, though your two images are both based on liquour bottles). We should create sober spaces, but with an understanding that different people have different definitions of sober - people who drink every day still know how to get party drunk, just like heroin users can fix to different levels of high. No substance, for many people, can also be a fucked up feeling where they feel less themselves, so it's not a meaningful measure of sober.

They're right that we need better ways of helping people deal with addictions and that stigmatizing people as 'addicts' is completely unhelpful. But they don't offer any proposal, just say that existing programs do more harm than good (which for many people is pretty debateable - there are lots of people with amazing critiques of this stuff, who work in the same kinds of social worky milieus that the authors are valorizing, who use mainstream 12-steps-style sobriety programs because they're way better than nothing).

Kind of a weak article on the balance. It's arguing against something very specific and trying to pass itself off as a general text about sobriety - I've never encountered the kinds of 'radical sobriety' positions they're critiquing here and their arguments against them do nothing to convince me that creating sober spaces isn't a good idea.

...that they would want to drastically alter their perceptions of reality?

Is real connection not preferable to the artificiality of a fake shared high?

Is real insight not preferable to some stoned semi-delirium?

"We know that our experiences while high are authentic, real and have been powerful. Altering reality can bring beauty, magic, transcendence and new understandings to our daily lives. Radicals of all sorts have used drugs to enable themselves to question how things are organized and to be critical of the world around them. People politically organize in many kinds of spaces including bars, workplaces, parties, and community spaces while intoxicated. Organizing does not happen through one homogeneous experience. Intoxication does not negate the nature of people’s ability to be authentic, to go in the world, be a good organizer, or get shit done."

Bollocks.

I've never seen such flagrant disregard for the overall negative impact that drugs have had on people who take them recreationally, or more over-exaggerated fetishisation of the imagined benefits, not to mention the complete masking of the way that the production of drugs is unavoidably exploitative of people and nature?

You guys want some socialist utopia where people work in drug factories? And there are 'People's Addiction Centers' ?

Wow.

[EDIT: I've added this because I feel what I wrote above has been misunderstood. I am condemning the recreational use of drugs that cannot exist without the control complex, not therapeutic use of natural plants and ingredients. FWIW, I am making this condemnation from a position of extensive experience, not as someone who has been scared to take them. You name it, I've done it, and though I know my experience does not give me the ability to say for sure what is harmful or not, when I look at the experiences of lots of other people, there comes a point when it's folly to ignore the obvious patterns.]

As per usual, the sxeUnterrifiedsxe taking a shit on human practices that have roots in uncivilized ways of life.

How is it possible to experience a full life without such drastic shifts? Fuck, i used to be a baby suckling mother's teat, and now i'm 30. So far has been a HUGE shift in perspective in more ways than one.

How dare anyone sleep, daydream, each chocolate, dole out hugs, orgasm, eat, work-out, sip tea, climb a mountain, play music, have an adrenaline rush, fall in love, laugh, cry, meditate, yoga, etc...

Someone's projecting their risk aversion... And, in doing so, is completely scapegoating addiction within the individual as substance abuse, and not the underlying tensions of a society that give vent as addictive behaviors.

You'll never make me feel guilt over ingesting various hallucinogens. They offer incite, and medicine, and especially dissolve boundaries and show just how inculturated thought and belief are in the form of habitualized ritual behaviors (response). Put another way, there is much to a linguistic orientation that fragments reality (which mirrors as continual deferral to authority and future in stratified societies), pre-frontal lobe development in terms of the stress-disease connection).

For instance, how is life normal carpeted and contained in so much concrete, people forced to live at a pace that is not of their own choice? What happens to someone's fight-or-flight response saturated with so much noise, and artificial light!?

There are only a certain amount of people that will exhibit addiction to substances. It is unwise not to offer them many paths, including hallucinogens like ibogaine. Plus, not to be difficult, but substances like dmt and alcohol are already in the body.

Even if we do strike at underlying tensions, we are indeed going to fail. How can we do so in a sensitive, inclusive, and restorative way? We absolutely don't need the judgemental ways of the unterrified, or any such replication of the failures we have in place now.

"As per usual, the Unterrified taking a shit on human practices that have roots in uncivilized ways of life"

Roots? Maybe. But there are a number of vast difference between the consumption of natural products for natural reasons by naturalised peoples, and the desperate swallowing of 'instant gratification' products by alienated and traumatised peoples, are there not? Please don't pretend that you're not smart enough to read what I wrote and work out that I'm not condemning altered consciousness wholesale.

"How dare anyone sleep, daydream, each chocolate, dole out hugs, orgasm, eat, work-out, sip tea, climb a mountain, play music, have an adrenaline rush, fall in love, laugh, cry, meditate, yoga, etc..."

You want to compare this list with the taking of recreational drugs? Of that list, some are those that everyone must do, and the rest are largely things that people who take drugs recreationally don't do, and so are left with an emptiness that they attempt to fill WITH the drugs.

You accuse me of "scapegoating addiction"? Errr...no, I'm looking at addicts as victims of an alienating social paradigm with all the wrong values that leads to exactly as you described: "the underlying tensions of a society that give vent as addictive behaviours".

But recognising that does not mean we can't look at recreational use and see how harmful it is in the majority of cases. To deny otherwise is pure Texas sharpshooterism.

"You'll never make me feel guilt over ingesting various hallucinogens. They offer incite, and medicine, and especially dissolve boundaries and show just how inculturated thought and belief are in the form of habitualized ritual behaviours"

I don't want to make you feel guilt, but what you've described is not recreational use, is it? It's therapy, where natural drugs have their place. I think their value has been exaggerated by a world that has sought to capitalise on them, but sure, there is some insight that can be taken from them, I'm not denying that.

But compare a DMT journey with people who have come out in this thread to defend hoovering stuff up their nose or whacking it in their arms, not to mention the shallow world of binge-drinking that so many spend far too long in. Surely there is a line we can draw there?

"For instance, how is life normal carpeted and contained in so much concrete, people forced to live at a pace that is not of their own choice? What happens to someone's fight-or-flight response saturated with so much noise, and artificial light!?"

I find this paragraph very interesting and I would like to talk to you more about it, if you are interested?

"Even if we do strike at underlying tensions, we are indeed going to fail. How can we do so in a sensitive, inclusive, and restorative way? We absolutely don't need the judgemental ways of the unterrified, or any such replication of the failures we have in place now."

If its judgmental to point out harm when it's occurring, then I would stand by those judgments. But I really don't think it is.

For information about how the majority of modern drugs are entirely dependent on global infrastructure and colonization, including chocolate and tea, see David Courtwright's book "Forces of Habit". Really, I'd recommended that book to anyone in this thread who believes their coping mechanisms don't pacify them (through being happier, helping concentrate/stay awake during work, as a reward for making it through another day, etc).

Also, those practices have zero roots in uncivilized ways of life. While perhaps rare usage was likely amongst some people, Hunter gatherers could, as described in countless anthropology, achieve altered states of consciousness through unmediated ways (see for example the !Kung San's practice of !Kia. It wasn't until people began to build civilizations that they required mediation to achieve these states.

"While perhaps rare usage was likely amongst some people, Hunter gatherers could, as described in countless anthropology, achieve altered states of consciousness through unmediated ways"

I think this depends on how you see 'mediation' and 'altered states,' no? Is ayahuasca counted here as 'mediation?'

Yes, it is including ayahuasca. I am talking about immediate return bands especially here, and some groups with small scale delayed return practices. See for starters the !Kia that I mentioned - nothing to alter the mind except extended song and dance. Could an argument can be made that song and dance is some kind of mediation?

In most accounts of which I'm aware these indigenous people say the plants themselves instructed them toward the combination and how to brew it. So, I where is your perspective on this?

In addition: 'alter states' is a very loose ambiguous term which doesn't indicate much. Spinning in circles, sugar, nicotine and peyote are very different from one another, and yet 'alter' us...assuming there's a norm to begin with.

It's a tough question as who can say what is actually occurring when the plant instructs them and why. Perhaps the plant instructs them because they became unable to achieve those states without it and the plant is seeking to balance for some reason. Of course this is speculation and the real answer is possible unknowable.

One of the most important points for me is that regular ayahuasca use within a group tends to go hand in hand with shamanic specialization and changing relational power dynamics. I have encountered no example of extended ayahuasca use without unprecedented role specialization.

Regarding the last point: This is true. I wonder if spinning in circles could be considered different from your other examples due to not coming from within the body, assuming nothing ingested (for instance) is affecting the spinning or the effects of the spinning.

But another way to look at it might be, that given the ever changing relations that make everything into an interconnected whole, and given that this "whole" could be thought of as "sick" (typically a common way to argue against the idea that anti civ is actually creating a nature-good civ-bad dichotomy), then ayahuasca use could be either a result of a "sickness" or an attempt to heal that was unsuccessful.

...precisely because the individual cannot fathom what they experience, yet the vivid nature of it, as well as the massive serotonin rush upon awakening, prompts them to consider doing it again. Repeated use builds narrative (out of the otherworldly, preternatural and subconscious) and can actually lead to reification in waking life. I'm thinking specifically of 'barbs' here.

That's interesting. What do you mean by barbs?

I'm also not convinced that ayahuasca leads to shamans, just that it happens along with shaman becoming a specialized role. There are some bands where half of the individuals are what could be called "shamans". I would not consider that specialization.

The person embarking on the yage (or whatever else) journey imbibes, and its the shaman who shapes, suggests, and narrates the journey, sometimes using smells, music, and physical manipulation.

Most instrumental of all though is the psychic manipulation via 'barbs' or 'darts'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsentsak

The combination of DMT (one of the most potent psychoactive substances in the world) with what is essentially advanced NLP, gives the shaman a power over the journeyer that is hard to equal.

Now, that is not to say that all shamans misuse the power, or that all rituals lead to mind control, but most of the civilisations that developed a shaman class that organised these rituals, made a fair amount of use of this power, from what I can gather in my research.

I think we are experiencing a semantic problem. I understand what you are saying and agree except for manipulation being inherent in shamanic behavior. Many would call these people shamans as well, though the word used in the article is healer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_healing_practices

The overall essence of San healing is/was quite different than that of the civilized Amazonian practice. With 30-50% of the band being healers, there just isn't room for the sort of unchecked manipulation you're getting at. Power is decentralized and, as far as I can tell and at least while they were in nomadic bands, never used to intentionally harm anyone.

The differences here are/were an immediate return orientation and a lack of any concrete outside substance, with every individual having a participatory role in healing even if they are not the actual healers.

NOT specialised, not manipulatory. I was just making the case for cultural use of ayahuasca probably leading to specialisation, which someone else first suggested above.

Anon 10:45, while I don't reach the same 'conclusions' as you for various 'whys' I do thank you for what seems an honest attempt engaging my queries.

Sure thing Rufous H Byrd. I'm certainly interested in other perspectives if you want to flesh out anything where you differ.

Brief initial responses:
.
(1) "The" revolution? Is there only one? Whose revolution is this? Critiques of intoxication culture can come from other directions, e.g. abstinence from intoxicants is one of the precepts of Buddhism, a path to inner liberation that is available to all right now (rather than in some distant imagined future). Are sober people welcome in "the" revolution this article espouses? If they are, the essay makes it sound like they're on their own and shouldn't expect any help or support from those who wish to partake undisturbed.

(2) The essay seems to conflate all drugs, without any nuanced separations made between different classes of drugs. Are crystal meth, heroin and cocaine really conducive to "the" revolution? I don't know, but the essay suggests all drugs are created equal.

(3) Is alcohol a drug? Obviously it is, so I don't see how the writer can really believe that it's the sober people that are marginalizing the users. This defies simple common sense. Sober people are marginalized by both the dominant culture and the subculture, they can hardly be seen as the ones doing the marginalizing.

(4) I don't know if there are "radical sobriety" groups that are actually guilty of this supposed moralizing. If there are, they are surely pissing in the wind. But to "ingest what we want, when we want"? Even when the effects of our actions harm others? Really? Is that how members of a community behave? I thought there was another aspect, that of looking out for each other, being the change we want to see, working together to create safer spaces for all genders, ability levels, ages, ethnicities, sexualities and, I hope, substance orientations. This essay has a very "Don't Tread on Me" feel. That's not the revolution I want.

how do you distinguish recreation from therapy?
are you sure that the harvest of flowers, leaves, seeds, fruit, bark, fungi, cacti, etcetera unfairly exploits nature?

the situation can be frustrating and one becomes confused, desperate.
by altering one's perception of their subjective reality, by stepping back or closer, out of the body or into it -so to speak- one has opportunity to see the mountain, or perhaps the molehill and thus, adapt. the symbiotic dynamic is inviting, encouraging.
allies abound. let's get in-touch.
wild communion among all creatures endures, ingesting one-another.
the reciprocal balance is measured by pure intuition.
the current of uncertainty of humanity's afflicted condition sets one apart from chaos,
where chaos is the actual perfection. therein only, lay the real connections.
order is necessarily abstracted.

...recreation from therapy is the presence of an actual attempt to understand what the cause of the sadness or trauma is that needs to be healed.

One time I sat in a churchyard in the middle of the night with a friend. We smoked a few joints and drank a bottle of Cognac between us, and we talked about his break-up from his gf, and it was therapeutic for him. Some kind of tension was released, he had a good cry, and from the next day onwards he was visibly happier.

Another time, the last time I was 'drunk', a friend and I played poker for about ten hours straight and drank six bottles of wine between us. No great attempt to connect or do therapy was made, and there was therefore no way anything good was ever going to come out of it.

The OP is unconditional in its support of recreational use, and therefore I condemn it.

Also: collecting bark does not exploit nature, but covering acres with coca, poppies or cannabis plantations most certainly does. If you're growing your own, then you might be able to escape that kind of exploitation, but then if you're growing your own to make cocaine or heroin, it's pretty difficult to argue for a therapeutic cause.

would you also condemn the personal choice of suicide (which perhaps occurs episodically to varying degree) ?? what good is your condemnation?
playing poker (gambling) has never struck me as a recreationally activity, indeed it's explicitly exploitative but, considering as it was the last time you were drunk, it appears something "good"did come of that ten hours with a friend…
i don't have to argue the benefit of cocaine/heroine therapy to you, i experience it on my own terms and you'll do the same on yours. heres a hint, though; the "actual attempt to understand" (or to seek healing) has to begin at the rudimentary, the bottom-end of the bounce. drugs can help us get down, and sometimes you've got to get up to get down. maybe you have to get away from yourself to see it. or maybe you really need to get centered with a grounding-charge in order to really fathom the situation at-hand. don't judge me based on your experience, mine is unique.

"Another time, the last time I was 'drunk', a friend and I played poker for about ten hours straight and drank six bottles of wine between us. No great attempt to connect or do therapy was made, and there was therefore no way anything good was ever going to come out of it."

Did you enjoy yourselves? Perhaps you've simply lost, or never had, the capacity to enjoy the most simplest, most intimate and playful relations with others. You come across as so busy stalking the 'valid gerunds' in which to rationalize and moralize them, that the very possibilities for joy which living presents you is bypassed by a strong prejudice in favor of abstraction-ism. Friendships hardly manifest through parsing out 'therapy' and the 'good,' (particularly on the internet) but by way of autochthonous and mostly precognitive sensuality. That you belittle the time spent frolicking says more to me than any of your rationalist sophistry.

In other words, nearly everything you write seems to demonstrate you getting in your own way trying to figure out what 'it' means and how 'it's' to look beforehand and/or justifying 'it' after according to some blueprint, some 'grand plan.' I intend this as no moral judgement. The pattern here, this RPG if you like, is common enough in the 'virtuality' which foists itself upon us as 'modern life' and far too much time spent 'online.'

meant most *simple*, intimate, etc

...in fact, I find that it is others that most often need some kind of intermediary, some spectacle, some artefact, some particular setting, some special time, some ritual or some desired outcome, to engage with me.

As well, a lot of what might fall under the category of frolic for you are things that hold no value for me, because to me they are surrogates, facsimiles of real joys. I prefer unmediated, non-alienating connections, preferably physical, but these are not easily found in civilised society, with all the accompanying barriers of trust, enmity, etc.

I'm hoping to relocate to the USA this year, and would, if possible, like to organise a gathering eventually where all manner of bodyful and playful activities can be engaged in. Of course, one obstacle to overcome before organising such an event is having to convince extremely judgmental people that I'm not some cold uber-rationalist 'square'.

You're reading a lot into what is very little of my life, and in fact is the part of my life that I am most grudging about. Of course I realise that it's more or less inevitable that people misunderstand me and see me as some joyless stalker, but really, you could ask questions and bother to find out at least a little more before you're so openly cruel to someone that you don't know. :S

Cruelty is a matter of perspective, it does have connotations of indigestibility, after all, and everyone is different in this area. Again, it wasn't my intent to judge you, as I said. And all that I did say I believe I clearly qualified as how your writing comes across to me.

Of course, judgementalism is exactly part of why I wrote in the first place; namely yours. You've incessantly ridiculed, knocked, and basically shit on nearly everyone's perspective here in which you find some distaste. Even here, you make broad judgments pertaining to where and how others find pleasure and potential joy (not to mention what may be 'valid'). This is fine by me. You have your tastes, but more likely you won't get to pretend your tastes are somehow 'objective' or 'good' without challenge.

My stalking comment had to do with your capriciousness in regards as to what equates to a 'valid gerund' over on the totw:GA thread (and was a play on some books by Euell Gibbons). After all, using your logic to conclude that civilisation is 'valid,' one might also conclude by way of the same for racism and gender, both of which you inexplicably and constantly berate as un-noteworthy, if non-existent, processes and relations. Other may see them as those 'smaller process' within civilisation or perhaps as expressions of civ.

At any rate, is it any wonder folks find your manner a bit off-putting? Perhaps, it behooves you to bear this in mind when bellyaching about 'extremely judgmental people.'

Cruelty is a matter of perspective, whether drug addictions are good is a subjective matter, good faith engagement is stalking and defecation, and getting personal isn't off-putting at all.

OK, I got the message.

[EDIT: I may judge ideas, but I do so hypercritically, and I try my hardest not to get personal. If this makes people think I'm judgmental, while a huge amount of what goes on in this forum is still just counter-productive name-calling, then maybe I should take the hints that people like yourself are making, and just Foxtrot Oscar, huh?]

No. You didn't get the message at all. Seemingly you're incapable of good faith since I said nothing of drug additions, as neither cruelty nor drugs are self-evident topics, particularly since addictions have so much to do with context and the evaluation of what constitutes a drug.

Also, I pointed out why I thought your notion of valid gerunds was ill-conceived, to which you only complain rather than confront, twice now. Face it.You're not even all that good with logical gaming, honestly. You got caught making shit up. Your arguments regarding 'valid gerunds' fail when viewed in combination with your repudiations of others 'gerunding' similarly. However, you seem very adept in moral condemnation along with suffering a chronic inability to withstand any criticism, particularly when its been qualified repeatedly as my perspective.

You're probably a nice enough chap in person, but online you come across to me as a bit of an asshole who's addicted to their contrarian self-image peppered with a bit of old timey prophet who pretends engagement but only wants to argue incessantly.

The reason I've not 'confronted', as you say, the issue of gerunds is that it doesn't seem to have any bearing on THIS discussion, and your reference to it was scattered amongst a whole load of other stuff you were trying to tar me with, most of which had nothing to do with drugs and was just an attempt at character assassination, honestly.

Far from skirting the issue of relational dynamics, I've started a whole thread expressly dedicated to exploring other people's perspectives on it. Are you even aware of it? Or are you just having a go at me without even knowing what you're talking about?

Look, I'm not gonna bother any more if the best I can hope for is this kind of response. This is not criticism. This is presentation vetting. I made an argument. If you want to criticise my argument, please stick to the ideas. If you have a problem with how I've presented them, please realise that I'm doing the best I can considering the very difficult circumstances under which I'm having to do it, right now. You really have no idea who I am or what I'm going through right now, and neither should that be any of your concern. So why make this so personal instead of sticking to the ideas?

"online you come across to me as a bit of an asshole who's addicted to their contrarian self-image peppered with a bit of old timey prophet who pretends engagement but only wants to argue incessantly."

That's really not very nice. I dare you to break anonymity and associate your name with that kind of approach.

They organize in prison too when that's where society puts them. So prison is awesome! Everyone stay in your assigned spot and just "organize" there (while drunk if possible)

It's not good, obviously. Or, I mean, it's good enough for what this article is, but it's not the most creative thing ever. The title is a diametrical response to a slogan someone wrote on a wall, whose implicit analysis seems to be bad (although I don't necessarily interpret "révolution sobre!" as necessarily meaning "the revolution requires sobriety" or whatever). So it's counteranalysis is also bad. But fortunately, the title of the article isn't analysis at all, it's just a title.

The title I would have chosen is "Anti-Radsob: The Most Devastating Critique".

(Currently reading it. It's interesting. Re: comments here, I find myself once again frustrated that anarchists always seem to feel a need to express themselves "for" or "against" a text. Basically, what de Acosta says about the anarchist response to "Desert".)

Coming out for or against texts is a way of imagining that texts have more power than they do. Considering how much collective anarchist energy goes into writing, it makes sense we would maintain that illusion.

-an anarchist who actually loves writing and doesn't like this text

Make a difference in the "world".

Write a po-mo essay.

Collect dick points at the local bookfair.

I guess it's not the imagining texts have power that bothers me... I would argue these texts do have power, at least within the limited space of our milieu, which is meaningful for those of us living there.

This text has lots of facts wrong, and is unnecessarily dickish to a particular group that prolly doesn't need unnecessary dickishness directed it, but it's not necessarily *wrong*. As a critique, even considering that it's built up a wicker man for it to burn down, it's got a few worthwhile points. As a launchpoint for imagining what "organizing" can look like, or "revolution" for that matter, it's quite fine.

On the whole, there's lots to not like in this thing. The RS Montréal response is better (and funnier), as one might expect from a text that has a smaller object of critique, and can address particular claims (no need to build the wicker man). But I'm not declaring "against" this text here. Made me think.

You gotta be kidding... Sure booze makes people more riotous and conflictual, but there's also the major, often outweighting downside that it also reduces your cognitive faculties, logic, and ability to assess of any given situation. In other words, it makes you DUMB.

I've seen drunk Greek rioters and it doesn't look good at all. Spanish dude-ttes get to be funny as hell when drunk, but that's it.

Or have you ever tried reading books while drunk? That's what I call a "bad trip". Unfortunately I did that too often.

...though my experience tells me that it's actually way more fun and fluid to be drunk while shoplifting/looting, as long as you don't mind too much being caught and fighting with the security. But that isn't the rev that much.

"Within an economic system that relies on our bodies as a tool of production under a capitalist rationality" <

Add new comment

Filtered HTML

  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <blockquote> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.

Plain text

  • No HTML tags allowed.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
To prevent automated spam submissions leave this field empty.
CAPTCHA
Human?
F
L
K
t
f
6
d
Enter the code without spaces.