Webster Tarpley on "The Debate" 4/21/2014 - Libya: A Tragic Monument to Political Destruction
Webster Tarpley makes another appearance on PressTV's "
The Debate" program to discuss the current state of
Libya
Tarpley: I'm afraid what we have in Libya is a tragic monument to what I would call criminal policy of destroying modern nation states wherever they exist and whatever their internal constitution might be. This is of course, the policy of the state department, the
CIA, and the foreign office
MI6, and the
DGSE, all were heavily involved in mini states, microstates, failed states, warlords, rump states, secessionist movements and so forth.
The goal is to destroy any political unit which is strong enough to say "No" to the
NATO, [
International Monetary Fund]
IMF imperialism. And it's a wanton policy of political vandalism. It takes no account of what might be left after the dust has settled and the bombing has ended.
I don't see that there ever was a basis for
NATO bombing. The story that was told at the time, by the
American and
European networks was that [slain
Libyan ruler
Muammar] Gaddafi was theoretically going to carry out a massacre in
Benghazi and this was whispered into the ear of [former
French President Nicolas] Sarkozy by
Bernard Henri-Levy, the so-called, I call him a philodoxer, and of course here in the
United States, perhaps an even more prominent
Samantha Power, who today is the face of the United States at the
United Nations.
It's a great shame for any American to have this. She convinced [
US President Barack] Obama that it was time to do the bombing back in March of
2011.
So, what has come out of this now, is a centrifugal process, where you have got certainly
Tripoli,
Tripolitania going one way, you have got
Srebrenica, this axis of
Tobruk, Benghazi, and Derna, they're going in a direction. You've also got
Fezzan and areas in the desert that are going in another direction. I would also
point out, Libya was a factor of stability for the entire
Sahara and the entire Sahel and the stuff that we've seen in
Mali, in the
Central African Republic and in other areas, these tragic events, all of them have something to do with the chaos that has seized the Libyan part, which had been I think a big factor of stability. So, I think this is absolutely criminal.
Tarpley: I would see it differently. I would certainly sympathize with the wish expressed by my colleague here that
Saudi Arabia could become a democratic state. That would be a great thing for the world, and I certainly sympathize with his hopes for Libya, but I'm afraid Libya is headed towards this status of microstates, ministates, or failed states.
Even on the United Nations human development index where Libya had been one of the leading African and
Arab states beating out
Ukraine and some countries in
Latin America, it's going down and I think it's actually gone down much further. I think the UN has cooked this statistics to try to make it look not as bad as it is.
The fundamental problem you have now is armed gangs. You have a neo-feudal anarchy and chaos. You've had these figures like infamous characters like Belhadj, who had been arrested in
Pakistan, held by the US. Former prisoner of war, or
Sufian Qumu, who came back to direct the killing of ambassador [
Christopher] Stevens, of course he did that in cahoots with forces in the CIA, but these types of warlords now dominate the scene and they assassinated the head of the military intelligence last year. So, the question is what force could put an end to the rule of these armed gangs?
The one thing that I think needs to be perhaps looked at more closely in this southern part of Libya, there are reports of a kind of a rapprochement between residual
Gaddafi forces, there is no Gaddafi left, and black Africans or black
Libyans from Fezzan.
We have to remember that the current regime is built on racism. It is built on anti-black racism because of the lynching and killing of black Africans that were carried out by the Benghazi rebel counsel, because they resented the black Africans as somehow being the tokens of Gaddafi's
Pan African policies, which in retrospect turned out to be rather constructive.
Tarpley: Well, I'm afraid the
Cold War discourse, Cold War thinking is alive and well in the
Obama administration, as we see in Ukraine. It seems to me that we've come to understand the color revolution which might have been started in Libya in the beginning of 2011 and the humanitarian bombing responsibility to protect the simply two sides to the same coin.
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