Bernie Sanders "
This Week" Abc FULL
Interview .
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:
Thank you very much.
KARL: So you’ve won big out there in those three states. You’re still way behind in the delegate count, but does that -- what does this mean for the race?
Does this mean you are absolutely -- SANDERS: Well -- KARL: -- going through to the -- SANDERS: What it --
Jonathan, what it means is we won three landslides last night. We won six out of seven contests in the last 11 days. We’ve got
Secretary Clinton’s lead by a third during that period of time. A national poll just came out that had us 1
point ahead of Secretary Clinton, when we started 60 points behind. And every national and state poll that I have seen, virtually every one, has us defeating
Donald Trump.
CNN had us defeating him by 20 points.
Clearly we have the momentum.
And I think at the end of the day we’re going to end up with more pledged delegates than Secretary Clinton.
And then I think the super-delegates are going to have make a very difficult decision, and that is if a candidate wins in a state by 40 or 50 points, who are you going to give your vote to? And second of all, which candidate is better positioned to defeat
Trump or any of the other
Republican candidates? I think a lot of the super-delegates are going to conclude that it’s Bernie Sanders.
KARL: But you still need 73 percent of the delegates going forward, which is a huge --
SANDERS: No, we don’t.
No, no, no.
KARL: Well --
SANDERS: No, I accept that. That is not the case. You’re assuming that every super-delegate who now supports Secretary Clinton will stay with her. You’re not taking into consideration the fact there are hundreds of delegates, super-delegates, who have not yet made a decision. We think we can win many of them.
And what we showed yesterday is in fact the momentum is with us; we think we’re going to do well in
Wisconsin. We think we got a real shot in
New York. And then we go out to
California. You go out to
Oregon. That’s the most progressive part of
America. We think we’re going to do very well there.
So I will not deny for one second that we still remain the underdogs, but we have come a long, long way, you will have to concede, in the last 10 months. We do have a path toward victory.
KARL: There were
Democrats saying it’s time for you to lay off
Senator Clinton -- Secretary Clinton, keep this positive now, stop the attacks on her
Wall Street ties, her super
PAC, all of that. Are you going to start laying off or are you going to, you know, put the pedal to the metal here?
SANDERS: We’ve just won six out of the last seven contests; we have the momentum. We won three landslide victories yesterday. And the reason we’re doing well is that we are talking about the real issues facing the
American people. And campaign finance is one of them. We have raised now 6 million individual campaign contributions averaging $27 a piece. That’s unprecedented in
American political history. Secretary Clinton has super
PACs; she has raised some $15 million at least from Wall Street, money from the fossil fuel industry, and the drug companies.
Do I think the American people need to know? That, is that an important issue? I think it is. Our vote’s on the wall: I voted against the war in
Iraq. She voted for the war in Iraq. That’s an important issue. I am opposed to continuation of fracking. She supports fracking. Those are important issues. That’s what a campaign is about. I do not run negative ads, but clearly contrasting my position with Secretary Clinton’s is what a campaign is supposed to be about.
KARL: So you said in an interview this week that she -- suggested she may not be liberal enough to be in your cabinet. So let me ask you now after these wins: is she liberal enough to be your running mate? Would you consider her?
SANDERS: That’s speculation.
Hillary Clinton is a person who has enormous -- I have enormous respect for, has a very distinguished career. But not into speculation right now. The reason, Jonathan, we are doing so well is we are talking about not speculation, the issues impacting the
American middle class -- grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality, the decline of the American middle class, the fact that millions of kids are graduating college deeply in debt, the reality that climate change is a global crisis that we have got to deal with and have to take on the fossil industry. Those are the issues that I’m dealing with, not speculating at this point who my vice presidential nominee would be.
KARL: So
Senator Sanders, we saw a situation this week where an
ISIS leader was taken out by
American ground troops, special forces on the ground in
Syria. You are firmly opposed to boots on the ground. Was that something that raised concerns for you?
- published: 27 Mar 2016
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