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Barbecue and tobacco smoke could fetch fines up to $2200 under proposed NSW strata laws

"I have to shut the door": Meagan Crisp.

"I have to shut the door": Meagan Crisp. Photo: Janie Barrett

Tenants who create too much smoke when barbecuing their lamb chops or sausages on unit balconies could soon face fines of up to $2200 under proposed changes to strata laws.

The same goes for smokers if the smoke from their cigarettes or cigars drifts into neighbouring units.

The changes count among more than 90 amendments to strata laws introduced to the NSW Parliament on Wednesday, including a controversial provision that would allow entire unit blocks to be sold to developers if 75 per cent of owners agree.

Tenants who barbecue on unit balconies could be fined under proposed new laws.

Tenants who barbecue on unit balconies could be fined under proposed new laws. Photo: Getty

Under current strata laws, residents are not allowed to create a "nuisance or hazard" that interferes with another person enjoying their lot or common property.

Residents also have the power to take their neighbours to a tribunal, if their actions are considered to be a "nuisance or hazard".

But legislation could soon be strengthened by specifically noting that smoke drift, such as tobacco and barbecue, can be considered a "nuisance or hazard".

The reforms also include a proposal to introduce a model by-law that deals with smoke drift such as from tobacco and barbecues. 

Under the by-law changes, owners corporations would be able to enforce a ban by issuing a notice to comply.

If the smoker or barbecue fanatic fails to comply, the matter could be taken to the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal, which has the power to issue a fine.

If the tribunal finds there has been a breach, residents who create too much smoke drift could face fines of up to $1100 – double the penalty under old laws.

The penalty will double to $2200 if the same offence occurs within 12 months.

Megan Crisp lives in an apartment block in Sydney's north-west and has smokers living next to, above and below her.

"I can't go out on the balcony, not until after they are gone, and usually I have to shut the doors," Ms Crisp said.

Ms Crisp said if her block adopts the new laws, she might be able to stop smoke coming into her lounge room.

"It means I will hopefully be able to get an enforcement, rather than appeal to their sense of duty of care," she said. "It will make them [her neighbours] more aware of the impact that smoking has."

Minister for Better Regulation Victor Dominello​ said the objective was to modernise strata laws to better reflect the way people live and work in 2015 and beyond. 

"Smoke drift is a nuisance and can adversely impact on residents," Mr Dominello said.

"The proposed reforms will benefit residents and empower owners corporations to tackle this problem."

More than 2 million people in NSW live in strata  and by 2040, half of Sydneysiders will be living in Strata.

The new laws are expected to come into effect on July 1, 2016. 

103 comments

  • An interesting turn of events. Whose rights take priority? Those of the smoker, to enjoy his cigarette or those of the neighbour, to enjoy a smoke free unit?
    Interestingly, I ponder whether this might be a precursor to wider laws. My neighbours all smoke (4 adults) and their smoke comes into my house. Will these laws extend there?
    I'm afraid I have always come down on the side of the average citizen to enjoy a smoke free life.

    Commenter
    Socrates
    Location
    Work
    Date and time
    October 14, 2015, 5:07PM
    • The right of people to breathe relatively fresh air should come before the rights of tobacco addicts.

      Commenter
      PC
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 5:56PM
    • My neighbour in the terrace next door complains about my BBQ polluting her newly renovated house but she smokes like a chimney (and insists on eating only organically grown food)! Paradoxical?

      Commenter
      TerraceDweller
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 6:09PM
    • Nanny Nanny Nanny State just got even more Nanny. When will start taxing people by their weight?

      Commenter
      Beeb
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 6:38PM
    • @PC....So what are your thoughts on exhaust fumes from motor vehicles....Do you propose banning cars too?
      Or do you just single out smokers because they are an easy target?

      Commenter
      Jack
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 6:48PM
    • Since we are becoming more mindful that we live in communities and getting along with everyone is important for social harmony then it is reasonable to expect that intrusion (noise, smoke, smell etc) into others private space is somewhat unacceptable.

      Last summer we had an upstairs bedroom full of blue smoke from a neighbours BBQ - located in the narrow passage way between two terrace houses. I requested the BBQ be moved to their back yard area so that smoke would not billow into our house. Asked nicely and deed done immediately without complaint. Same with smoking cigarettes.

      It would seem obvious to think first but sometimes it doesn't happen. So ask nicely. Usually you get a reasonable response.

      The punitive laws should only be executed if the neighbours are persistently selfish - obstinate, rude and don't give a damn.

      Having a Brazier and burning material in a yard that causes others to have smoke filled homes is in my view a breach of a persons entitlement to live in their own home.

      Commenter
      AK
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 6:51PM
    • Maybe developers can offer "special needs" apartment blocks - no smoking, no music, no BBQ's, no cooking of smelly foreign foods, no pets, no kids, no visitors, no lights on after 10pm, no washing machines or dishwashers to be turned on after 9pm, and on the list goes - They'd be just the place for whining moaners so they can all live together and gripe about other ways in which they can make the world just that little bit more drab and boring.....

      Commenter
      John Engstrom
      Location
      Carlton
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 9:19PM
    • @Jack
      Motor vehicles have a practical purpose, which is transportation.
      What is the practical purpose of smoking?

      Commenter
      JR
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 10:49PM
    • I think it will be “a precursor to wider laws” and it won't be just for smoke from neighbours. After all, what difference does it make if your neighbour belongs to the same legal entity or not?

      But unwanted smoke will be a minor irritation compared to having your home taken from you simply for the pleasure or financial gain of another person or corporation. If the law is passed with the offending part (Part 10) then 2,000,000 people in NSW will no longer have security of ownership or tenure of their homes.

      Under the bill before parliament, if the owner(s) of 75% of the lots in a strata scheme (of units, townhouses, villas, shops, factories, etc) want to sell to a buyer (who could be an owner) then the owner(s) of every lot has to sell to that buyer. Unwilling owners can get compensation by going to court but the compensation Act is far from generous. Tough luck if it's insufficient to buy a new unit!

      I expect it will be a boon for Chinese billionaires. They can demolish a block of units or two to build palatial compounds for themselves or to build more units to sell to those Chinese who want to park some money out of the reach of the Chinese government. They will keep them empty because to preserve their resale values.

      How long before the 75% is reduced to 51%? Why not apply it to freehold property as well? So that if your neighbour wants to buy your house for a “development” then you must sell?

      It's a strange proposal, but then this government repealed the law prohibiting developers becoming Councillors.

      Our Victorian government is proposing the same but claims to be more "left" and people friendly!

      Commenter
      Old Cogger
      Date and time
      October 14, 2015, 11:38PM
    • The issues of BBQ's is a massive one which has been ignored for way too long,

      some basic laws are well over due.

      I know the issues associated with this too well as we used to live next to a BBQaholic,

      5 to 7 BBQ's per week and guess what, we collected all the smoke,

      didn't stop there,

      then he'd spend the rest of the time sitting around his beloved BBQ all day

      endlessly smoking and listening to blaring music, as he was unemployed.

      It all stopped when his parents came home to live there again,

      they threw this infantile 43 year old with his wife and kids out to face the real world.

      As for us, we were just a mear inconvenience at times because of our complaining.

      This all happened on 750 sqm suburban blocks.

      Commenter
      Moodster
      Location
      Donvale
      Date and time
      October 15, 2015, 1:21AM

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