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Beating Myki fines in court

After claims he was wrongly fined over a Myki touch-on error, software engineer Nick Seidenman took the matter to court and explains how he managed to come out on top.

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Most of the myki fines contested in court have been withdrawn or dismissed, amid claims the government department responsible for the problem-plagued technology is deliberately avoiding legal scrutiny.

Since the system was introduced, 109 challenges to infringement notices have been heard in the Melbourne Magistrates Court, and only six people who turned up to court were fined. Another 17 who did not attend were fined.

Altogether 71 cases were dismissed or withdrawn, while 15 cases were adjourned. And that, according to figures obtained by Fairfax Media, is even though about 80 per cent pleaded guilty.

Leigh Mahoney next to a myki machine at Southern Cross Station. He has successfully challenged myki infringement notices in court.

Leigh Mahoney next to a myki machine at Southern Cross Station. He has successfully challenged myki infringement notices in court. Photo: Pat Scala/Getty Images

But not one case where a person pleaded not guilty has proceeded to a contested hearing, a spokeswoman for the Magistrates Court of Victoria said.

Fairfax Media revealed last December that the Department of Transport had received written and verbal advice that false myki readings, administrative errors and poor calibration would damage the chances of a prosecution in court.

In August, the department withdrew an infringement notice against a Brighton woman and agreed to pay $383 in costs just two days before she was to challenge the ticketing system in court.

Ryan Heath was fined for not having a valid ticket while teaching others how to use the system.

Ryan Heath was fined for not having a valid ticket while teaching others how to use the system.

The department had refused previous requests by the woman for myki performance, service and staff training records.

"The department is not, and will not be, in possession of any service records for any devices owned or operated by Public Transport Victoria or Metro Trains," said department prosecutor Joe Connolly in a letter on February 5.

Mr Connolly did not indicate where the information could be accessed.

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Fairfax Media is aware of several other people who have had fines withdrawn after requesting detailed information about myki readers, calibration and servicing, and the legislation that regulates their operation.

Andy Schmulow, a senior research associate at Melbourne University's School of Law, had "virtually begged" the department to issue him a court summons after he was fined on a Melbourne tram despite topping up his myki account a day earlier. But the department would not take him to court.

Mr Schmulow was told by a department  prosecutor that a failure to present a valid tram ticket was a crime of "absolute liability" and he had no basis for an appeal.

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"After examining the legislation, I found there were grounds upon which the department could uphold an appeal," he said. "This lack of understanding the legislation was simply inexcusable. Without explanation, the infringement was quietly withdrawn."

Mr Schmulow accused the department of "bluffing" public transport users. "They know there are such serious defects either in the legislation or in the technology and the myki system, that if it appears a passenger is willing to challenge the infringement, then the department might as well fold.

"Is this the reason why the department gave passengers the option to pay a $75 on-the-spot fine? Is this part of the bluff?"

A Department of Transport, Planning and Local Infrastructure spokeswoman said it was "ludicrous" to suggest there were any enforcement problems with myki.

"There is a robust legislative framework in place to deal with ticketing offences and the department successfully prosecutes over 6000 ticketing matters annually," she said.

The spokeswoman insisted that contested hearings had proceeded to the Magistrates Court, but would not say how many.

But this appears to be contradicted by a statement from the Magistrates Court. "In the Magistrates Court, a contested criminal hearing is a hearing where the accused pleads not guilty. Of the 109 cases that resulted from the data request, none proceeded to the plea of not guilty hearing type," the court spokeswoman said.

Another department spokeswoman later said these cases were "not reflective of the ticketing matters prosecuted annually by the department".

Court data revealed that most people pleaded guilty and a majority had their fines wiped. People who failed to attend court usually had fines upheld.

Fairfax Media observed a man who claimed he was in a rush and did not have time to touch on have his infringement notice dismissed by a judicial registrar.

Public Transport Users Association president Tony Morton said many people were discouraged from challenging fines because of the cost and inconvenience.

"Public Transport Victoria is keen to avoid having to contest cases in court and in a lot of cases it's succeeding," he said.

Ryan Heath was hired by a government subcontractor to teach Melbourne commuters to use the system in 2012. Mr Heath was fined for not having a valid ticket while trying to teach others to use the system at Melbourne Central in January 2013. His problem was that he had touched on to a machine that was offline.

"I'm there trying to help myki with all these problems and I'm getting fined. The whole thing was ridiculous," he said.

Mr Heath said supervisors were often confused about how the system worked and he frequently saw people fined after they had asked for help.

Like many other cases, Mr Ryan's matter was found proven but dismissed without penalty or conviction.

RMIT researcher Adrian Dyer is determined to challenge the system after pleading not guilty to failing to produce a valid ticket at Mount Waverley Station. 

Dr Dyer showed Fairfax Media a note signed by a Metro Trains officer at his local station, which states: "When I visually inspected the Myki readers with him, indeed it was hard to read the screen."

There was no way for somebody to know whether they had effectively swiped on the morning he was fined, Dr Dyer said, adding that he always had funds on his card and had been using the system without incident for more than a year.

"I'm not pleading guilty because I haven't done anything wrong," he said.

 

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LEIGH MAHONEY, 43, Murrumbeena

"I have worked in the financial industry for 27 years and I have to sign a declaration each year to confirm I haven't been convicted or charged with any dishonesty offences. When they ran an advertising campaign that compared fare evasion to stealing it was not something I could wear," Mr Mahoney said.

In court, Mr Mahoney had four defence arguments, including anomalies in the Victorian Fares and Ticketing Manual and concerns about the accuracy and maintenance of the myki system.

"I wanted evidence on calibration around their readers. I wanted to know what standards they are calibrated to and how often they are tested. I had video evidence of scanners at Hughesdale not working, regardless of how many times you touched on," Mr Mahoney said.

The Magistrate struck out the charges in February.

"These cases block up days and days in the justice system. You've got magistrates sorting out bullshit fines, when this money should be spent fixing the system," he said.

NICK SEIDENMAN, 57, Tecoma

After feeling confident he had touched on with his myki card at Upwey station, Nick Seidenman was slapped with an infringement notice at Melbourne Central when the gates failed to open.

"I said: 'I want to go to court with this'. I know I'd topped up my card and swiped on. The machine was right there and I got the beep and saw the flash," Mr Seidenman said.

He said he had previously reported vandalism and faults with myki readers to Metro officers, but the complaints were often met with indifference.

"I'm a software engineer and I know a bit about the protocols involved with this technology. I was confident that if I requested the source code I could have identified a flaw in the system. I think they know it's flawed. Mine [infringement notice] was withdrawn when I raised these concerns," Mr Seidenman he said.

Mr Seidenman urged other public transport users to dispute their fines in court when they believe myki technology has failed.

"Be polite, take your infringement notice and challenge it in court. You'll win," Mr Seidenham said.

MARK WIEMELS, 41, Flemington

Mr Wiemels was issued with a $217 fine after he thought he'd swiped on at Newmarket station. He said he had video evidence that proved a myki reader at the station was often faulty.

"I went to court and pleaded not guilty to begin with, but then I witnessed several cases before me. The judge and the prosecutor were in total lock-step and everyone who pleaded guilty had their fines waived."

"There was a guy who said he was running late for the train and was going to miss something and admitted he didn't have time to validate. Even he got off. So I just pleaded guilty and they wiped the fine. The whole thing was a farce, it was complete nonsense," Mr Wiemels said.

19 comments so far

  • At South Geelong station, one of the MYKI machines is impossible to read in the sunlight while another does not beep when touching on or off.

    Commenter
    Ken
    Location
    Geelong
    Date and time
    September 30, 2014, 10:45AM
    • As a interstate visitor I have used the myki system in Melbourne and its useless and in comparison to the System we use in Western Australia it does not compare. It just amazes me as to how much money has been wasted in Australia by each of the states on ticketing systems when they could have all used the system set up in WA and duplicated it in each state.

      The Public Servants have a lot to answer over this debacle the question is were they acting under instructions of the union..

      Commenter
      Me
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      September 30, 2014, 10:57AM
      • System (not Myki) in Singapore seems to work fine on trains and buses; and you can even top up the card at an ATM (which has a touch screen sensor for the card).

        Commenter
        BD
        Location
        Singapore
        Date and time
        September 30, 2014, 11:19AM
        • What a joke!

          Commenter
          SG
          Location
          Melbourne
          Date and time
          September 30, 2014, 11:23AM
          • I don't know how much money has already been wasted on this crap and inefficient system (the scanning technology is completely out of date alone) and now wasting time and money on enforcement in court (together with the many people employed harrasing commuters). It's about time to rethink the purpose and operation of public transport and start trying to solve the real problems, with overcrowded roads, traffic jams, accidents, air pollution etc which together is extremely costly (not only monetary). So just get on with it and be bold and visionary and abolish public transport fees alltogether, charge a small levy on rates (or whatever form may work) and with it get many more people onto public transport (and off the roads), then re-allocating saved money from not needing more roads (and saved from all the other costs related to it including high maintenance) to developing a real and useable public transport system for Melbourne and Victora, rather than this half baked thing we have at the moment, just waiting to fall into pieces. With the car industry about gone from Australia, one would think the car lobby's influence should go away to push for even more (useless) roads, but who knows. In any case fossil fuel prices will eventually skyrocket (not so much by carbon price, which will come back sooner than later) but more so by fuel supply shortages (i.e. peak oil).

            Commenter
            pete
            Date and time
            September 30, 2014, 11:27AM
            • The clowns responsible for this 2 billion dollar and counting waste of our tax dollars have been totally unaccountable and all moved on to cushy jobs elsewhere. The chief clown is now heading up infrastructure in NSW! Unbelievable, our senior public servants are like cats they always land on their feet thanks to their boys club that closes ranks and looks after their own.

              Commenter
              Elijah Baley
              Location
              Melbourne
              Date and time
              September 30, 2014, 11:32AM
              • I got reported by an inspector AFTER the Metro representative let me through the gate for supposedly not touching on properly. Surely this can't be legal? If the Metro Officer assessed my reason as acceptable this this should be acceptable and not challenged by the Inspector. I commute to the city every day . My Myki history would show that I am an honest commuter (I have auto-top up on my card) . When I informed the Inspector that he should look at my travel history as proof, his response was "we can only see the last few records" and reported me anyway. Why is this the case? Surely with the latest Myki technology he could access this information? So he has the power to assess my "honesty" in a snapshot of time? Such a joke. It was embarassing and a degrading experience, especially after the Metro employee believed my account and let me through. I know how Myki works and how flawed this touch on touch off system is. Inspectors are making up for a flawed system and no doubt have quotas they must me each day to jusitfy their existance. Supermarket scanners are more effective than Myki will ever be.

                Commenter
                Caroline
                Location
                Melbourne
                Date and time
                September 30, 2014, 11:41AM
                • So... as the article indicates... the answer is... don't pay the fine; go to court, and if your reason is in any way legitimate the case will be thrown out!
                  And if enough people insist on taking it to court there will be no time for the inspectors to inspect!

                  Commenter
                  dansthyarra
                  Location
                  Sth Yarra
                  Date and time
                  September 30, 2014, 3:42PM
              • Why do so many plead guilty? Because if you plead not guilty, you don't get the case decided on the same day. But most people don't find this out until they get to the first hearing, so they plead guilty in order to avoid a second hearing. That's why the prosecution is so willing to try you on. It is therefore advisable to inform PTV as soon as possible that you are well aware that a "not guilty" plea will require a second hearing, and that you will therefore not be bullied into changing your plea at the first hearing. According to the story, PTV has always surrendered rather than contest the second hearing.

                Commenter
                Gavin R. Putland
                Location
                Melbourne
                Date and time
                September 30, 2014, 11:41AM
                • I topped up my MyKi with a weekly pass and when I went to use it for the first time yesterday morning it would not register. Instead it took a fee from MyKi Money of which I had a balance of 82 cents and then came up with me owing 5.52 despite me having topped up with 35.80 for the Zone 1 weekly before tapping on. No explanation was given.
                  I don't get it. India sent a mission to Mars for $73million and the Victorian govt have spent over $1.5 billion on a ticketing system that is still flawed.

                  Commenter
                  Owen
                  Location
                  Melbourne
                  Date and time
                  September 30, 2014, 12:01PM

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