13 Aug 2015

Dyson Heydon: Abbott's Attack Dog Tactic Turns Around To Bite Him

By Ben Eltham

Having bullied members of public office and used a royal commission for political ends, the PM is about to reap what he sowed, writes Ben Eltham.

Imagine if Gillian Triggs, the Abbott government’s bête noire, had accepted an invitation to address a Labor Party fundraiser.

The backlash would be swift. Howls of outrage would issue across the land. Triggs would be assailed from pillar to post. Hostile speeches would be delivered in Parliament. The Australian would no doubt devote several weeks to the coverage, including a series of bizarre thought bubbles from Chris Kenny on the counter-factual history of Burke and Wills.

Actually, we don’t have to imagine. This is precisely what has happened to Triggs this past year.

Not that Triggs has ever addressed a Labor Party fundraiser, mind you. No, the most she could be accused of was authoring a report about the abuse of children in immigration detention. Senator Ian Macdonald didn’t even need to read the report to declare it biased.

So it’s not surprising that there are equally strenuous howls of outrage from Labor and the trade union movement over the news that Trades Union Royal Commissioner Dyson Heydon had agreed to give a speech to a Liberal Party fundraiser.

Heydon is in charge of a wide-ranging and forensic examination of Australia’s trade union movement. He has already presided over the questioning of former prime minister Julia Gillard and current Labor leader Bill Shorten.

The Trade Union Royal Commission has uncovered significant, if isolated, examples of malfeasance in the labour movement. Charges against at least one trade union official have already been laid. When Shorten gave evidence, Heydon appeared to question his credibility as a witness.

Needless to say, the Royal Commission is an intensely political exercise.

It was an election promise of the Abbott opposition, and the government has made much of it since taking office.

So the revelation of Heydon’s Liberal Party fundraiser connection was big news this morning.

The invitation to the Sir Garfield Barwick Address, to be delivered by Heydon, helpfully featured Liberal Party logos. It also stated, all too explicitly, that “all proceeds from this event will be applied to State election campaigning” and that  “cheques should be made payable to: Liberal Party of Australia (NSW Division).” Fairfax’s Latika Bourke plastered it all over the Sydney Morning Herald and Age websites.

 

 

Cue outrage in the Twittersphere, as journalists and social media types rushed to their keyboards.

Wags wasted no time in digging up old judgments by the eminent jurist. In 2011, for instance, he wrote that “the appearance of departure from neutrality is a ground of disqualification” for a judge. “It is fundamental to the administration of justice that the judge be neutral.” Oh dear.

The ALP has always viewed the Trades Union Royal Commission as a politically-motivated inquiry, perhaps even a kangaroo court. The Abbott government’s decision to extend the Commission’s funding and remit, and the Commission’s investigation into the activities of Bill Shorten in his time as secretary of the Australian Workers Union, has only hardened that enmity.

Not surprisingly, it didn’t take long for Labor to call for Heydon to stand down.

“It's clear that as a result of the acceptance by Dyson Heydon of an invitation to speak at a Liberal Party fundraising event that he disqualifies himself as a commissioner of this royal commission,” Labor’s Brendan O’Connor said this morning.

Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus – a working barrister in his former life – was equally scathing.

“It's something we’ve said from the outset that this handpicked royal Commissioner and the way in which the commission has been conducted has shown the political nature of the royal commission,” Dreyfus said. “And now we have, if more were needed, absolutely clear, clear proof of the association between this royal commissioner and the Liberal Party of Australia.”

The government’s reaction to the revelation has been to try and minimise the significance of the Liberal Party link, and to insist on Heydon’s impeccable reputation.

Attorney-General George Brandis – himself a former presenter of the Sir Garfield Barwick Address – fronted the media this morning to insist that the speech wasn’t really a Liberal fundraiser.

“It is a very common thing for eminent public figures to speak at political occasions,” Brandis told journalists. “It was hosted by what I understand to be legal practitioners branch of the Liberal party but this was a public oration.”

The government’s tactic had already begun to unravel by Question Time.

New South Wales Liberal warlord Tony Nutt put out a statement admitting that it was a fundraiser, while trying to pretend it wasn’t a big deal. Unfortunately, he also stated that the now-notorious invitation included fundraising information in order “to meet the obligations of electoral disclosure laws.”

By the time Tony Abbott rose to respond to Labor in Question Time this afternoon, the government was tacitly admitting it was a fundraiser, but arguing that Heydon’s position was still tenable.

As so often occurs in controversies of this nature, the very fact that Parliament was debating it showed that Heydon’s fundraiser was indeed a big deal. Now under attack from both Labor and the Greens, Heydon’s position looks shakier by the minute.

As we saw with the Bronwyn Bishop controversy, this government struggles when crises need to be managed. 

While public disgust at a royal commissioner turning up to a party political fundraiser is unlikely to match the ire directed against the high-flying former speaker of the House of Representatives, it’s also true that many in the public view the Royal Commission as a partisan affair.

Those who hold that view will find their inclinations confirmed by today’s news. Those who think Heydon has done nothing wrong will find it difficult to mount a defence of such a foolish oversight.

In his media conference today, Labor’s Mark Dreyfus clearly foreshadowed court action that might force Heydon to stand down. He called on the commissioner to quit before being dragged through the Federal Court.

“He should not wait for a formal application to be made to him in the hearings of the royal commission, still less should he wait for the Federal Court of Australia to deal with this matter,” Dreyfus said.

The problem for the Abbott government with Dyson Heydon is the same one it has faced many times before. After ruthlessly politicising so many aspects of public life, it now finds itself defending something largely indefensible, and with little public trust in its motivations.

Calls for Labor to respect the dignity of a public official are pretty rich coming from a government that has attacked enemies in the public service at every opportunity.

Now one of the Abbott government’s most useful weapons has backfired.

Almost inevitably, it will be seen as another of Abbott’s ill-fated “captain’s calls.” Leadership speculation continues to snowball.

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MJoanneS
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 16:39

Dyson never found a single anti-refugee policy he didn't want to rigorously apply.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 16:48

Surely the job of anyone presiding over a Royal Commission is to at least appear to be non-partisan for at least the full duration of the relevant proceedings?

I mean, seriously, how hard can that be?

Too hard, it appears....      Absolutely Hilarious.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. jojo@internode....
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 17:21

It appears clear that Heydon accepted an invitation that stated the event was a fundraiser.  No ifs, no buts ... he has to go - if for no other reason than that he was stupid enough to accept.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. musikki
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 17:27

There's a helpful and amusing commentary on Heydon's absurd position in the 2012 marital rape case here.Talk about the sanctity of marriage! Where do these people come from?

Imagine
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 17:41

I can't wait to see the pay back when this feckless government are cast into political oblivion and Abbott is made to face multiple Royal Commissions into his crimes against humanity and his wanton destruction of our environment, institutions and our future.

 

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 18:13

I've come over all philosophical today, so I thought id offer this little tit-bit...

A continual challenge for those trying to impose stupidity upon others is the inherent difficulties in recruiting competent assistance.....

make of that what you will.....

This user is a New Matilda supporter. nobody456
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 18:33

RossC, excellent observational quote. Just how many "stupids" did it take to bring about this ludicrous situation?

peter.wotton
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 18:35

Heyden's fellow justices on the High Court had a less than positive attitude to his judgements with them disagreeing with 40% of the judgements that he wrote.

 

This user is a New Matilda supporter. paul walter
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 20:06

It was pitiful watching some on the Drum panel this evening trying to laugh off the $80 a ticket bash.

That eighty dollars would probably pay for the groceries for a fortnight for some person trying to survive on the lengthening dole queues.. minced meat and Black and Gold baked beans.

totaram
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 20:08

@Imagine:

You wish.  Sadly, it won't happen as long as the Labor "right faction" (LNP-lite) is running the show. Did Kevin Rudd or Julia Gillard do any of these things? What about the Iraq war? The imprisonment of Pauline Hanson (much as we disagree with her views)? They claim it is to show how "much better" they are than the coalition, but the fact is they haven't got the guts and they have too many of their own skeletons and dinosaurs to hide.

 

 

This user is a New Matilda supporter. Bilal
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 21:42

Recall an example of a lickspittle judge who brown-nosed the Executive, then James II. The people who rose against the king in the Monmouth Rebellion were eliminated by the Bloody Assizes, presided over by the ever compliant Judge Jeffreys. Old ladies who had helped rebels were sentenced to burning alive - commuted to beheading in one case, men who had supported the ending of divine right monarchy, beloved by James, were hanged, drawn and quartered. 800 were transported to slavery in the West Indies. However this mass slaughter of the opposition did not have a happy ending for either the king or the compliant judge. James II was removed in the Glorious Revolution, forced to flee for his life, and Judge Jeffreys died in the Tower of London where his crimes against the people had taken him.

Could history repeat itself?  The Executive under Abbott seems to regard itself as all-powerful and tries to subordinate the legislature and the judiciary. Perhaps we will also see the legislature rise up and assert itself against would-be tyranny and the tyrant forced to flee and his compliant judge put into a difficult situation. Then of course those old ones had guts. Not too many like that in our parliament.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. swarmi
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 22:03

I fail to see why anyone would give our political culture any credibility.

It's got to be because that is all we are allowed. Labour may be able to take the high ground but it wouldn't be so if they didn't play the game of loyal opposition - and try and get the rest of us to suspend disbelief to go along with this farce.

Talking about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear .... all that glitters must be gold!

Australian politics glitters but it's no democracy.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 23:43

dodgy gov.com.au.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. Rychard
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 00:22

RossC @ 18:13... But this shower have no problem finding people quite capable of promoting incompetence, by example after example . Is that impressive? ... or not?

I am running out of ways to express my horror and sorrow, over this government. Just so glad I did not vote for the bastards.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. peterws
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 00:44

The government's response to Labor's accusations about Commissioner Dyson include these claims: (1) Mr Dyson is an eminent man; (2) former AG Dreyfus' recognition that Dyson is not necessarily actually biased is a huge own goal (per Pyne). Both assertions are wrong. The eminence of a person is entirely irrelevant to the issue of bias, and the law refers to "presumptive" bias: it is never necessary to show actual bias, the appearance or possibility of bias, or of a conflict of interest, is sufficient. Mr Dyson should resign from the Commission, which would or ought to mean that everything done so far must be expunged and the whole process started again.

jexpat
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 02:17

Right on the heels of Chopper Bishop, no less!

Narada
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 04:57

Good post Paul-the people you describe obviously live in their own egocentric little worlds,not knowing or caring about the hidden poverty and incredible hardship in Australia.A less circumspect man than I would call them ignorant and delusional, but despite their worldly affluence, they have actually lost the plot and should be pitied.Thank you for your  original caring and compassionate analysis.Keep the faith.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 07:55

Ah yes, Rychard. They find plenty of people capable of promoting incompetence, and those so-chosen set to work trying to do just that....incompetently.

thats the amusing part.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 09:19

RC into Unions what a joke, the terms of reference had to be reigned in so tight, to prevent more than an iceberg (union corruption) being exposed, in an ocean of corporate corruption in Australia.
A few millions compared to billions of dollars.
Heydon just another partisan parasite, stand down.

marg1
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 10:52

Like Bronnie, Dyson has to go. His impartiality is obviously compromised by this. He must go - along with Abbott and his corrupt bunch.

bigtreeman
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 17:58

Fundraisers should be called what they are - corruption parties, schmoozing parties, graft parties, removing all impediments to businesses doing business parties, devising new favourable laws parties, keeping the bastards dishonest parties, corrupting any notion of fair government parties, landing a great job for when we exit politics parties, landing a great job as a political advisor parties, landing that fat government contract parties, getting a criminal mate into the country parties ............

AussieRatbag
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 22:47

Any chance of seeing that Bolt stolen generations article you promised almost two weeks ago?

O. Puhleez
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 22:58

bigrtreeman:

Very true.

Abbott and Dyson Heydon between them have blown it. This 'Royal Commission' has been a travesty, an inquisition and a farce. Heydon can hang in there like Captain Ahab on the flank of Moby Dick, only that every day will just bring worse stuff, and the longer he hangs on, the worse it will get.

Heydon cannot possibly recover an 'impartial' image. If he was replaced by George Brandis himself, it could hardly be worse. If he's smart he will excuse himself and head for the exit. If he is stubborn, he will stay.

Abbott, being the creature he is, will probably urge him, publicly or privately, to stay.

xfretensis
Posted Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 07:07

Eighty bucks a head is just the price of the nosh - and where the players get themselves sorted.  Note that the invite said 'cheques to be made out to Liberal party...'   Those cheques wouldn't be for $80... no sirreee bob!

The $80 meet and greet is merely the appetizer.  The main course and dessert is the cheques, baby!   And you get to listen to the dragon-slayer into the bargain. 

 

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 17:20

Actually, Ben, your analogy with Triggs needs editing. Since Graham is clearly busy, let me volunteer!

IMHO, you should have said:

"Imagine if Gillian Triggs, the Abbott government's bête noire, had accepted an invitation a year before she was appointed to the Australian Human Rights Commission to deliver the annual Herbert Vere Evatt address on Human Rights Law. Her after-dinner speech would be to a roomful of other human-rights lawyers, and her predecessors would have included many eminent people in her chosen academic field. The cover price for the dinner would be about average for this kind of event, but should the takings exceed the cost the profit would go to the organisers, the Labor Lawyers of NSW."

There would indeed have been howls of synthetic outrage from the Right, but there would also have been a spirited defence from the Left, including, of course, from you. 

I'm not sure what the word is for hypocritically accusing others of hypocrisy, but you're displaying it in spades.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 18:27

@aussiegreg

Imagine if Gillian Triggs, the Abbott government's bête noire, had accepted an invitation a year before she was appointed to the Australian Human Rights Commission to deliver the annual Herbert Vere Evatt address on Human Rights Law. Her after-dinner speech would be to a roomful of other human-rights lawyers, and her predecessors would have included many eminent people in her chosen academic field. The cover price for the dinner would be about average for this kind of event, but should the takings exceed the cost the profit would go to the organisers, the Labor Lawyers of NSW."

If you're referring to this from Brandis-
The attorney general said this in the face of an invitation to Liberal lawyers emblazoned with the Liberal party logo and a message saying that “all proceeds from this event will be applied to State election campaigning"
Yes it just emphasises the point, he needs to stand down.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 18:26

bb has a good point aussiegreg....

The prominent Liberal Party logo (blue thingy on the top left hand corner of Garfields invite, in case it somehow skipped your attention) and the text explicitly stating that ..."all proceeds from the event will be applied to State election campaigning" on the flier announcing Garfields little speech thingy, both show that it was unarguably a liberal party fundraiser, and so Ben's article needs no editing at all...his analogy was right on the money.

Your contribution, on the other hand, seems to come from that mysterious alternative universe where Tony Abbott and his cronies are not complete idiots...

 

DON_de-Plume
Posted Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 19:11

Ross, it's spelt IDDIOTT's. Ok. I thought I'd been clear on that some time ago :-)

Aussie Greg - that would dypocrisy. No need for tanks.

peterws gets the chocolates with coffee after desert.

One wonders how a proof of bias (except at the Cotton Tree Bowls Club) would be established? Probably by using one's perception, perchance?

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Sunday, August 16, 2015 - 15:48

OK, so my edited version of the Triggs analogy apparently needs to have further and better particulars, as the lawyers say!

So we add:

"When the invitations for her turn to give this prestigious address were eventually issued, more than a year after she had agreed to speak and after she had been appointed to the Commission, they were emblazoned with the Labor Party logo and with a message saying 'all proceeds from this event will be applied to State election campaigning'."

So are you all going to agree that Triggs is now exposed as a Labor shill and, as someone clearly conflicted, must resign immediately?

I like Triggs, I don't like Heydon, and almost no one in the current cabinet would pass my dinner party test, but intellectual honesty compels me to be objective about these things, as I suspect the courts will be when they summarily dismiss the case from the thugs and standover merchants of the CFMEU that Heydon has a conflict of interest and cannot continue to be the royal commissioner.

Now that lawsuit really is the most astonishing example of hypocrisy!

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Sunday, August 16, 2015 - 18:33

Yeah AG. But thats a hypothetical that could only eventuate if Triggs was a naive idiot. But she isn't, so it didnt.

what is your point again?

(Ps you have seen the commissioners reply implying the offer of a talk to a liberal fundraiser when his commissioner duties have ended, havent you? That is also evidence of political bias)

Simpsons Donkey
Posted Monday, August 17, 2015 - 03:30

I simply want to comment that one of the first things Adolf Hitler did when he obtained unilateral powers, was to destroy the trade unions of the Reich. Tony Abbot appears to me every bit as fascist as Adolf.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Monday, August 17, 2015 - 16:08

What's the name of that rule for posting to boards like these which says something like "whoever is the first to mention Hitler loses"?

(I think I've fallen foul of it once or twice myself!)

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Monday, August 17, 2015 - 16:13

My apologies @RossC, I should have remembered that Gillian Triggs is not only infallible but also psychic.

Of course in my hypothetical example she would have used her psychic powers (when invited to give this prestigious oration at a time when she was just a humble academic) to see that by the time her turn to be so honoured arose she would be Australia's top Human Rights Commissioner, that the invitations for her speech would go out on Labor Party letterhead and would refer to the profits from the night, if any, going to help Labor's State election campaign, thus putting her in danger of having the evil conservatives make all sorts of wild allegations about perceived conflicts of interest.

I should have remembered that she exercised those remarkable psychic powers in 2012 when she had her little chat with two Labor ministers and agreed with them not to do a report on children in immigration detention until after the 2013 election. She looked into the future and saw there would be an Abbott government having remarkable success in reducing by over 90% the number of children in detention compared to the time under Gillard when she had agreed not to do her report. Her sixth sense (or is it seventh sight, I can never remember) would have told her that future time would be perfect to distract the voting public from Abbott's policy success by bringing out that same report, this time attacking his government's terrible human rights record in locking up children.

Her precognitive powers would also have restrained her from offering to deliver this prestigious lecture at a future date, after she had ceased to be a Human Rights Commissioner and free from any perception of conflict of interest, because she would have seen she would not be spared all that synthetic indignation foaming from the lips of the Right who, practised slanderers as they are, would twist even this simple courtesy into evidence of bias.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Monday, August 17, 2015 - 18:17

Also in this hypothetical example I suppose is Triggs on the selection panel for the Rhodes Scolarship, selecting a student of shared extreme political ideals but otherwise average ability, and, years later, hitting the jackpot with a highly-remunerative commission rewarded in return by said student? 

No, that could never happen.  

Oh...Wait...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/dyson-heydon-on-panel-approved-tony-abbott-rhodes-scholarship/6703188

This user is a New Matilda supporter. RossC
Posted Monday, August 17, 2015 - 18:20

Its like a 3-dimensional chess game of reciprocal back-slapping. And we pay for it all.

 

Angry...Much?

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - 04:08

@RossC

I always wondered how the Mad Monk scored that Rhodes scholarship! (Of course, in the hypothetical mirror universe, Triggs would have been on the Rhodes committee which selected Bob Hawke, although I would have imagined him as an above-average university student.)

If I was telling tales out of school, I might mention a legal-eagle friend who was bemoaning the decay of a once-fine mind back when Heydon was on the High Court and the calibre of his judgements was thought to be steadily slipping from the high standard he had set as a judge of the New South Wales Supreme Court.

Maybe it wasn't his mind that was slipping, just his work ethic now he had reached the pinnacle of the profession and was no longer motivated by ambition.

Not that any of that changes the tiny glimpse of the organised-crime racket that masquerades as so much of Australian trade unionism – and I have personally been on the receiving end, so I know of which I speak – we have been granted by his Royal Commission.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - 09:32

@AG

Not that any of that changes the tiny glimpse of the organised-crime racket that masquerades as so much of Australian trade unionism – and I have personally been on the receiving end, so I know of which I speak – we have been granted by his Royal Commission.

You're trying to deliver balance and yet a man of your intelligence, falls for Abbott's trick. Why is that ? looking at corruption through the microscopic lense, Abbott and his corporate bosses want you to and not looking at the bigger picture of corruption.
Lets put into perspective, for you, the terms of reference, of this RC were reigned in so tight, so as not to bring in corporate corruption, because union corruption is a tiny glimpse of organized corporate crime, which is the elephant in the room and Abbott is obviously part of, Abbott's links to Miners and Murdoch.
a glimpse

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - 19:31

@boganbludging

I'm not falling for anyone's trick – I was threatened with physical violence by a delegation from the combined building unions in Melbourne and effectively run out of town (a tale I have told elsewhere on these boards) and I have had pallets of my business's stock threatened with "going missing" by a union rep for the shoppies. 

While catching my breath back in Sydney, I was overheard recounting my near-death experience to some friends, with the qualification that I thought my experience had been a rare and exceptional one, by a bloke so scared of the threats that had been made to him and his family by the building unions in Melbourne (he had packed his family up in a weekend and moved to Sydney) he wouldn't even give me his name, he just wanted me to know that my experience, far from being exceptional, was standard going, and the reason why high-rise construction in Melbourne cost 30% more than the same projects in Sydney.

You are right that Abbott wants to keep the involvement of corporations out of this Royal Commission, just as Howard kept it out of the Cole Cover-up Commission, but it is not your paranoia about miners and Murdoch, it is the very real criminal conspiracy between the Victorian building unions and the big builders. 

The builders make all the corrupt payments for phantom payrolls, fake union "services", overmanning etc, and force all their subcontractors to sign similar enterprise "agreements", in return for the unions agreeing to make sure no new competitor will be allowed to survive.

Governments of either political stripe turn a blind eye to all this lawbreaking because they are taking their cut of the proceeds of this crime through affiliation fees if they are Labor or donations if they are Liberal.

They don't have to worry about the police honouring their sworn oaths because coppers across Australia take the view that industrial disputes should be resolved in the industrial arena and they therefore take no interest in criminal conspiracies between unions and employers, any more than they move to prevent unionists and their paid muscle blockading a business in the guise of a "picket".

Andrew Dumas
Posted Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - 21:22

More like you were threatened by a small group of school children and then fled in fear of them. But continue spewing your LNP lies while snorting crack.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 08:27

@ aussiegreg

I'm not falling for anyone's trick – I was threatened with physical violence by a delegation from the combined building unions in Melbourne and effectively run out of town

Sorry to hear that, when did this occur, if it was following the workplace harassment laws coming in, if you had evidence you'd probably have a case.
I've been on the receiving end, of a mob, as well, when part of a small contract work group, apparantly stepping over an unknown line, but in retrospect, it's got nothing on management intimidation, I've seen and the natural affinity for the scum to float to the top of the corporation ladder.
With corporate corruption and bullying you only have to look back to the most prominent case of the miners campaign to remove KRudd, never a more blatant case of high level corporate misbehaviour.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 13:52

@bb

It occurred in 2003, when I was the smallest of small sub-contractors to a mid-level builder putting in some computer technology the unions didn't like. My client had probably kissed the ring of the local union mafiosi but had not contemplated he had so lost control of his own business to the unions that they would insist on micromanaging his operation to such a minute extent (I had no employees and no subbies of my own, unless you count the guys that came with the equipment that was being supplied, whose expertise was needed to install it).

I'm not sure how workplace harassment laws would have helped – as I recounted before, the building unions sent five massively-muscled guys in singlets (the better to show off their tattoos) to the conference set up by my client (who had let me know he was throwing me under the bus) where they recorded the plausibly-deniable audio of a meeting where their menacing body language and death stares were the real message. I volunteered to abandon my equipment (and lose $70,000 in the process, one of the reasons why at nearly retirement age I have almost nothing whatsoever to show for my working life) and leave town the next day.

As for the miners' campaign against Rudd's RSPT, it was not much more dishonest than the campaign the unions ran against Work Choices, and which would have had the same result – a change of government – had Gillard not toppled Rudd and let the big miners write their own replacement legislation on condition they pulled off the ads. As I have said before, those who want to be critical of her for doing this should remember that the alternative was to have an Abbott government in 2010 committed to no new mining tax at all.

Elliot Patterson
Posted Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 16:32

@ Imagine..

I can't wait to see the pay back when this feckless government are cast into political oblivion and Abbott is made to face multiple Royal Commissions into his crimes against humanity and his wanton destruction of our environment, institutions and our future.

Wishful thinking I believe, after all, John Howard is a war criminal and is still freely profitting off it all..

http://theaimn.com/complaint-john-howard-international-criminal-court/

Labor could've done more to hold him accountable, if they were not as equally as corrupt and immoral, wrong and stupid. We may well get rid of Abbott sooner or later, but don't hold your breath in anticipation of anything getting any better. This website seems to convey the idea, get rid of the Coalition government, and everything will be fantastic. If only.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. boganbludging
Posted Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 18:50

@AG

I volunteered to abandon my equipment and lose $70,000 in the process.

So who got the 70k worth from you, not the union guys?
Sounds like a case of fraud.
I've been stung a few times too, to the tune of hundreds of thousands, though not through anything to do with unions, if anything, they are the reason I've been so highly renumerated.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 21:32

@boganbludging

No, not the union guys, mostly my client in return for him not suing me for the losses he sustained from the union action, and a bit to the suppliers in lieu of my paying their final invoice, although another dispute I had with them about the cost of my website remained unresolved and does so to this day.

It was a kind of third-party case of obtaining property by menaces, but even had I been so suicidal as to go to the police they would not have been interested as it was an "industrial matter".

This user is a New Matilda supporter. swarmi
Posted Thursday, August 20, 2015 - 22:39

@ AG, BB

I feel for those who fall victim to union gangsterism and corruption.

My story is in the TWU late 80's, qld. Len Ward was the corrupt president at the time. When we beat him at the elections there were but 16 of us in the room. That is how elections usually pan out. Just an opportunity for one guy to be king-pin.

The new president, HW, proceeded to run the union as his own fiefdom till his very long- delayed retirement. While he watched the conditions of his members deterioate over time, as with the union movement in general, there was no shortage of cash for him to splash about. His best mate owned one of the biggest transport companies. Thuggery in unions is not uncommon but their power has many prongs eg you could be banned from sites or you could lose your job.

Union officials are career negotiatiors who actually know where their own interests lay - and it's not with the workers they nominally represent.

The rank and file don't deserve them but, under capitalism, everything is corrupt and corrupted.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Friday, August 21, 2015 - 07:29

@swarmi

 

The rank and file don't deserve them but, under capitalism, everything is corrupt and corrupted.

 

Not everything, I was never corrupt, and nor were my colleagues, nor a single one of my suppliers, to my knowledge. (Although that may be why no-one on the Left seemed to care about destroying my businesses, putting scores of people out of work in the process in the case of my agricultural products business.)

As for socialism, anything done in the Party's name, from petty corruption in a union down to mass-murder of the innocent, is simply rebadged as virtue.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Friday, August 21, 2015 - 07:30

Attn webmaster

 

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This user is a New Matilda supporter. swarmi
Posted Saturday, August 22, 2015 - 07:44

@ AG

The error you make consistently is to see the world through your own personal perspective. When I say this world is 'corrupt and corrupting' I exclude genuine working people, like your good self, in whole or in part ie in part because, obviously, some working people are corrupted but before we point the finger of blame we need to address the primary cause.

I reserve this accusation of 'corrupt and corrupting' for the system, its institutions, our culture and the class of people, the one percenters, and their lick-spittle attack dogs, who own and control this system, capialism.

Thus you make a very obvious and common error. You dismiss my general assertion against the system because you take it personally. Then you go to show no 'personal' or individual  exceptionism for so-called socialist states and the left in general. There, you only see the system.

Consequently, your world becomes a convenient grab-bag of observations and eclectic explanations. While it may help you get your head around your own personal dilemmas, nothiing can be reasonably generalised from it.