10 Aug 2015

Respectable Hatred: Fairfax On Islam

By Michael Brull

While lowbrow racism is more likely to be called out in Australia, that which is structural and embodied by elites continues to get free pass, including from the media. Michael Brull explains.

Politicians and celebrities have a favourite kind of racism for politicians and celebrities. The type they love to denounce is lowbrow and extremist. Highbrow bigotry and institutionalised racism are controversial, and attract defenders of various sorts. Only more marginal groups will defend unsophisticated hatred and bigotry. It’s not hard to think of examples, but recently there have been some striking illustrations in Israel and Australia.

In Israel, there are some forms of hatred that respectable people know are not okay, and will happily condemn. For example, an ultra-orthodox Jewish Israeli terrorist stabbed six people taking part in a gay pride parade in Jerusalem. The suspect was previously convicted of stabbing three marchers in 2005. The attack was widely condemned, including by the leader of the Jewish Home party, Naftali Bennett.

Meanwhile, Betzalel Smotrich, a member of Knesset from the same party, campaigned in the last election as a “proud homophobe”. That wasn’t quite extreme enough to garner any repercussions in his political career.

Then there is the case of the settler terrorists, who murdered an 18-month-old Palestinian baby. This was also condemned, with Netanyahu expressing “shock and horror”. It’s a little hard to take his alleged “shock” too seriously.

In March this year, Israeli human rights organisation Yesh Din released a report called “Standing Idly By”. The report documents “Israeli soldiers’ practice of standing idly by in the face of crimes committed by Israeli civilians against Palestinians and their property in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), a practice that is almost as old as the occupation itself.” This practice “has been documented for decades by both government agencies and human rights organizations, which have warned about its serious implications.” Implications that were never considered worrying enough to change policy.

The murder of the child was unsurprising, and could have been prevented. Yet the institutionalised racism of the occupation is happily tolerated. Whilst the murder of Palestinian children is not exactly shocking in Israel, that prerogative is usually reserved for the Israeli army, not fringe terrorists.

In Australia, we have a similar illustration of the different sorts of racism, no less depressing. On the one hand, there’s the case of Adam Goodes. Since objecting to being called an “ape”, and expressing concern about Australia Day being held on the day its invasion by white colonisers began, AFL fans around the country have been up in arms. For about a year, they’ve been booing him whenever he gets near the ball. This mostly passed without notice, but when he threatened to resign, it looked like this might become an international scandal. Goodes was Australian of the Year, and has twice won the Brownlow Medal, given to the “fairest and best” player in the game.

For him to be booed by tens of thousands of people around Australia every time he came near the ball was too blatant and embarrassing, even if AFL fans themselves apparently have happily tolerated the abuse. Thus, the booing of Goodes has been slammed by an increasing array of mainstream figures from across the political spectrum. Scott Morrison, who prided himself on his harsh treatment of asylum seekers, even included his favourite dog-whistle in commenting on the affair, remarking “stop the boos”.

 

 

Similarly, Colin Barnett, the Premier of Western Australia, complained that “you do not pick on one individual and particularly now where it's got a racist tone to it". However, “To the AFL and to Aboriginal footballers, I think also you could back off a little bit… Don't re-enact the spear throwing. It's provocative, it's not necessary, so both sides, get over it.”

Barnett is well-known for his policy of closing up to 150 remote Aboriginal communities. Yet the policies of Morrison and Barnett – and these are hardly the only government figures I can think of – are unlikely to be condemned in the way that the booing is.

In a way, Australia’s an extreme example. A lot of racism passes without comment or condemnation here. Perhaps this shouldn’t be too surprising: Australia’s history is among the most racist on the planet. Because of the White Australia policy, and the devastation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities, Australia is still overwhelmingly white. Ethnic minorities have struggled to gain enough power, influence, and even visibility to successfully resist the kind of bigotry and prejudice that pervades our society, major institutions and halls of power.

These trends – the pervasiveness of bigotry, and its highbrow and lowbrow forms – were illustrated last week in Fairfax. The Sydney Morning Herald campaigned hard against the booing of Adam Goodes, issuing two passionate, if not particularly well-written editorials in his defence.

Lowbrow anti-Muslim bigotry also doesn’t sit right with Fairfax. An editorial from July 24 responded to the Reclaim Australia rallies thusly:

“Is it ignorance, malice or bigotry that persists in conflating Islam as a whole and Muslims in general with the outlying, radical fringe of Muslim extremist groups such as Islamic State? How often does it need to be said that Islam is not synonymous with terrorism, and murdering, psychotic terrorists are in no way representative of all Muslims?”

An online version of the editorial

And yet, Fairfax gave plenty of space to anti-Muslim writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali. For example, in this fawning interview, Ali claimed that those who think “the butchers of the Islamic State are misinterpreting … verses [of the Koran] have a problem. The Koran itself explicitly urges pitilessness”. Which is roughly the opposite of what the editorial above wrote, but maybe its heart wasn’t really in that one.

Or this interview from 2013 where Ruby Hamad in Daily Life sought instructions from Ali on what “Western feminists need to do”. In March, it printed an op-ed by Ali, urging the reform of “Islam”, which she treated as a monolith, which is characteristic of her style. This was to promote her new book, Heretic: Why Islam needs a Reformation Now.

The Economist, reviewing her book, noted that one suggestion for supposedly “reforming” Islam was a “show stopper… she wants her old co-religionists to ‘ensure that Muhammad and the Koran are open to interpretation and criticism’.” Ali wants the Qur’an to be treated as the product of “human hands”.

The warm reception Ali tends to receive for her writings is rather striking. As As’ad AbuKhalil observes, she has no relevant expertise on Islam – she is “only because of her bigotry… treated as an expert on Islam”. Ali has identified Islam as “a destructive, nihilistic cult of death.” This sounds a lot like the language of Tony Abbott on Daesh. Yet while right-thinking progressives in Australia have mocked Abbott’s rhetoric, Ali gets a warmer reception.

In a notorious interview from 2007, she stressed that Islam had to be “defeated”.

Reason: Don’t you mean defeating radical Islam?
Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it’s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They’re not interested in peace.
Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?
Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. … There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.
Reason: Militarily?
Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don’t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.”
I’m not sure how to overstate this kind of hatred, prejudice and bigotry. Her continuing respectability among Fairfax and Western progressives more generally is startling, yet is simply a more highbrow version of the kind of things one might expect at a Reclaim Australia rally.

As the kind of free-thinker the West admires, Ali has claimed that she has tried to convert to Judaism, and might do so in the future. She admires Henry Kissinger, and “really” admires Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, she explained as Israel invaded and bombed Gaza last year. “I really think he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. In a fair world he would get it”, she said.

Perhaps inspired by Ali, or other anti-Islam advocates, Hussain Nadim similarly wrote in the Sydney Morning Herald last week that “Islam is in desperate need of internal reforms”. Note the identification of Islam as a single entity. Though he didn’t identify the type of reforms he had in mind, one might suspect he had in mind those of Ali. Mr Nadim retweeted someone suggesting Ali and Sam Harris would be interested in his article.

Mr Nadim’s central thesis is that responsibility for Islamist terrorism should be placed on Islam. He criticises those who take “the burden of blame away from issues of religion and identity”, and those who think the “problem lies not with Islam, nor even with some of the Muslims but with the environment Muslims are currently in”.

Mr Nadim asserts that “the problem with religion is what is driving the identity crisis which is leading to radicalisation among Muslim youth.” He concludes by complaining about those who would blame anything but Islam for Islamist terrorists:

“The uneasy fact is that Islam is in desperate need of internal reforms that have been delayed to this point where the religion is being damaged from within causing serious identity crisis amongst the Muslim youth. And it is this very identity crisis that is at the core of radicalisation problem leading young Muslims to fall prey to terrorist propaganda joining Islamic State and other militant groups. As long as those at the helms of power in the Muslim community remain in constant denial blaming the government, the "environment" and anything else while ignoring the real issues, deradicalisation will not prove easy.”

Okay, so the problem is Islam – not an interpretation of Islam, but Islam – and those who blame anything else are making it harder to fight terrorism. Note the similarity of this position to the one that the Sydney Morning Herald editorial objected to. Which is a clear illustration of the difference between the lowbrow ravings of Reclaim Australia “patriots”, and the calmly written, pseudo-scholarly advocacy of the same position.

Though Mr Nadim identifies Islam as a monolithic entity in need of reform when he’s stressing its supposedly “desperate need of internal reforms” to prevent terrorism, he undercuts his own thesis when criticising Muslim community leaders. Mr Nadim writes that “All stand united against the government for its lack of understanding the issue of radicalisation and not ‘consulting’ them with important policy decisions on the subject”.

Mr Nadim sees “nothing wrong [with] consulting the community”. But “who is the government supposed to ‘consult’? The reality is, that there is no ‘one’ Islam, or its representative. Should the government consult with Sunni, Shiite, Barelvi, Deobandi, or Ahmadi Muslims – all of whom consider each other kafirs (non-Muslims)?” Putting aside the gratuitous and unsupported claim about the intolerance of all Muslim community leaders, Mr Nadim then identifies a “racial divide… There is a cosmic difference between Turkish, Lebanese and Pakistani Muslims each with their own mosques and imams. Naturally, their understanding about Islam and their solutions to the problems of radicalisation are also different.”

Note the unexplained disparity within his own argument. Mr Nadim treats Islam as a monolithic entity, which is the real, “core” cause of Islamist terrorism like Daesh. Yet when it comes to listening to Muslim community leaders, Mr Nadim thinks it’d be a waste of time, because after all, Islam is so complex and comes in so many different forms.

Yet if Mr Nadim’s grasp of logic doesn’t impress, he’s at least smart enough to argue self-interestedly, narrowly hidden behind a façade of impartiality. He criticises Muslim community leaders for their “rudimentary understanding of the subject”, their “very baseline understanding of the major Islamic political and theological issues”, and absence of “historical context. Most of the community leaders even lack the background in the complex field of Islamic political history and radicalisation to understand and offer serious solutions to the government.”

Okay, so if Muslim community leaders are to be ignored, and consultations are a waste of time, then perhaps those who are familiar with this research – say, a PhD student at the University of Sydney – are the peope the government should be consulting with.

Mr Nadim then verbals the Muslim community, to counter-pose their unreasonable views with his own. Mr Nadim claims Muslim community leaders suggest that “socio-economic and political issues drive radicalisation”. Mr Nadim writes:

“Extensive research work by Alan Krueger, Jitka Maleckova, Christine Fair and many others has demonstrated there is no causal link between terrorism, radicalisation and socio-economic conditions. Most of the notorious terrorists including Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed come from educated, middle- or upper-class backgrounds.”

Okay, so Mr Nadim says that many Islamist terrorists are rich, and from educated, middle or upper class backgrounds. Is it true that Muslim community leaders – with their “very baseline understanding of the major Islamic political and theological issues” – fail to incorporate this into their claims about the primacy of socio-economic conditions?

Let’s consider the position of the Australian National Imams Council. It said that “one of the main causative factors for local radicalisation in the west has been the western governments' military involvement in the Middle East. The support of unjust, dictatorial regimes as well as unilateral military aggression based on duplicitous foreign policy positions has only aggravated the state of global fear and violence.” Those who review the original statement will find there is zero reference to poverty or socio-economic conditions – the stance that Mr Nadim cavalierly and repeatedly attributed to “Muslim community leaders”. Yet Mr Nadim cannot be accused entirely of dishonesty – he slyly wrote “socio-economic and political issues” as the causes of radicalisation – and then only refuted one of them, before complaining about the failure of Muslim community leaders to understand these issues.

Now consider the work of Mr Nadim’s preferred experts on terrorism. Alan Krueger is a Princeton economist. Together with Jitka Malecková, he studied the information he could obtain of 129 “martyrs” of Lebanese political and military organisation, Hezbollah. They found that those they surveyed had a “lower poverty rate than the Lebanese population”, and were “better educated”. Those who know anything about Lebanon’s history will hardly be started by their finding that Hezbollah’s resistance of the Israeli occupation and invasions wasn’t driven by poverty.

So if education levels and poverty are not causes of terrorism, what is? Krueger observes that:

“One set of factors that I examined did consistently raise the likelihood that people from a given country will participate in terrorism—namely, the suppression of civil liberties and political rights, including freedom of the press, the freedom to assemble, and democratic rights. Using data from the Freedom House Index, for example, I found that countries with low levels of civil liberties are more likely to be the countries of origin of the perpetrators of terrorist attacks. In addition, terrorists tend to attack nearby targets. Even international terrorism tends to be motivated by local concerns.”

Krueger concluded that:

“The evidence suggests that terrorists care about influencing political outcomes. They are often motivated by geopolitical grievances. To understand who joins terrorist organizations, instead of asking who has a low salary and few opportunities, we should ask: Who holds strong political views and is confident enough to try to impose an extremist vision by violent means? Most terrorists are not so desperately poor that they have nothing to live for. Instead, they are people who care so fervently about a cause that they are willing to die for it.”

Now remember – this is one of Mr Nadim’s preferred academic experts. And Krueger is used to bolster his claim that “the overwhelming claim by Muslim community leaders that ‘research’ suggests socio-economic and political issues drive radicalisation is not only erroneous but reveals a primitive understanding of the debate on the subject.”

In short, the intellectual content and honesty of Mr Nadim’s work disintegrates at the slightest examination. All that’s left is the sour assertion that Islam is to blame for terrorism, whilst Muslim community leaders should stop “blaming the government, the ‘environment’ and anything else while ignoring the real issues”.

That “anything else” is a broad dismissal of blaming anything but Islam for terrorism. The government is wasting its time in consulting Muslim community leaders, who can safely be ignored.

There is no question that similar claims about the connection between Judaism and terrorism, or any other form of crime would never have been printed in Fairfax, or any other major media outlet. Yet the most toxic forms of Muslim baiting can pass without incident across the media spectrum in Australia. All that’s needed is some thin veneer of rationality, and it becomes highbrow enough for the more liberal end of Australian media.

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This user is a New Matilda supporter. nobody456
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 16:42

If you want to describe Fairfax as " the more liberal end of Australian media" you need to describe your scale. They have long since moved so far right as to be nudging Murdoch. The world is paying a huge price for allowing mega rich old white men to use its media for their own ends.

MJoanneS
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 17:15

The SMH also advocated pushing away refugees a couple of years back, anything to stop the boats and supposedly to stop the drowning.

Even now they can't bring themselves to admit it's perfectly legal to come by boat so they blame some unknown and unnamed person for being a people smuggler so we have to stop the boats to stop them.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. hannahs dad
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 17:23

This is an exrtremely valuable  well written essay, thoughtful and informative.

Thank you.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. Bilal
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 17:55

Thanks for another great article Michael.  A simple google search for Ayaan Hirsi Ali  shows what she stands for - ignorant and exploitative anti-Muslim bigotry. She is a well  established liar and anyone using her as their authority on Islam is either a fool or with evil intent.  It is like asking Eichmann about Judaism or Milosevic about Islam in Bosnia. Her links to the most poisonous neo-cons in the USA should warn even the most simple minded journalists that she is more than a poor victim of wicked Muslims.

aaron
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 19:28

Islam is a violent religion and reaches violence, it is in desperate need of reform. Until Islam is reformed islamic terrorism will continue to be a significant threat.

After all we don't see many if any christains, buddhists, hundus or jews flying planes into buildings or driving cars full of explosives into markets.

MJoanneS
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 21:04

No Aaron so called christians bomb entire muslim nations to bits, use DU, napalm and other monstrous weapons from drones and air.

 

Jews fire bomb homes of muslims, bulldoze their homes, slaughter them at will in Lebanon and Palestine.

 

Buddhists slaughter Rohyinga muslims in the tens of thousands and deny them all rights in their own countries.

You need to get a firmer grip on reality.

A2K
Posted Monday, August 10, 2015 - 23:19

Almost as galling as Ayaan Hirsi Ali's anti-Islamic bigotry and the blatant lies that she's profited from - even after they brought down the elected government in which she served when they were exposed -  is her lack of historical insight.

Islam needs a Reformation? Does she even have the faintest idea what the Reformation looked like? 

It was one of the bloodiest periods in European history, with political grievances being solved through violence justified by the invocation of religious doctrine.

That anyone looks at her as an intellectual is a sorry indictment on the state of society in the West.

 

MazelMan
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 00:18

@MJoanneS, I think it is you who needs to come to grips with the obvious facts.

None of the other religious groups you mentioned enact barbaric terrorismj in the name of their religion, other than to defend against the incessant menace of supremacist Islamic fundamentalist ideology.

MJoanneS
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 00:44

No Mazel Man, the US and Israel are terrorist states, there is no denying that.

O. Puhleez
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 01:38

Since objecting to being called an “ape”, and expressing concern about Australia Day being held on the day its invasion by white colonisers began, AFL fans around the country have been up in arms [about Adam Goodes].

All well and good. But I would guess from his name and appearance that Goodes himself is of part European descent, as are virtually all Australians south of the Tropic of Capricorn who identify as Aboriginal.

Many Aboriginals of mixed ancestry condemn the European invasion, without which they themselves would never have come into existence.

And then:

Let’s consider the position of the Australian National Imams Council. It said that “one of the main causative factors for local radicalisation in the west has been the western governments' military involvement in the Middle East. The support of unjust, dictatorial regimes as well as unilateral military aggression based on duplicitous foreign policy positions has only aggravated the state of global fear and violence.”

The Imams Council is partly right there, and partly wrong. In Islam there is no clear division between church and state (which was also once true of Christian Europe;  before the Reformation.) Opportunistic western politicians have supported reactionary Islamic clerics against internal democratic movements, as in Iran. But Islamic clerics and Islamists have no trouble whatever in finding Koranic justification for their antidemocratic politics. Nor with justification for murdering an 'apostate' like Hirsi Ali, whose life is under constant threat, and for reasons that Brull rather club-footedly makes clear.

In siding with however-many-faceted Islam against Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Brull certainly shows where his own priorities lie. Perhaps if like Hirsi Ali he had been genitally mutilated as a Muslim child and had had as many death threats and associates murdered by people who take their Islam pretty seriously, he might have written a more balanced article than this diatribe against any thought of Islamic reformation, and against those who struggle within Islamic societies to bring such reform about.

Can do better. 3/10.

A2K
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 08:17

@O.Puhleez

All well and good. But I would guess from his name and appearance that Goodes himself is of part European descent, as are virtually all Australians south of the Tropic of Capricorn who identify as Aboriginal.

Many Aboriginals of mixed ancestry condemn the European invsion, without which they themselves would never have come into existence.

My grandfather was the son of an Austrian innkeeper. My grandmother was a Yugoslavian refugee whose village was forced to flee by their neighbours because of their Germanic ancestry during the Second World War. When he returned home at the end of the war he met her when her family was taking refuge in his family's barn.

It is almost an understatement to say that without Hitler's war of conquest through Europe I would never have "come into existence".

I'm still able to acknowledge the heinous evil that it was, the genocides that it accompanied it and the legacy of suffering that endured for generations as a consequence of it. It's amazing to think that you seem to believe that someone in a similar position has no business speaking out against the atrocities that occurred as a consequence of an event broadly celebrated because without it he wouldn't have been born.

The Imams Council is partly right there, and partly wrong. In Islam there is no clear division between church and state (which was also once true of Christian Europe; before the Reformation.) Opportunistic western politicians have supported reactionary Islamic clerics against internal democratic movements, as in Iran. But Islamic clerics and Islamists have no trouble whatever in finding Koranic justification for their antidemocratic politics. Nor with justification for murderin an 'apostate' like Hirsi Ali, whose life is under constant threat, and for reasons that Brull rather club-footedly makes clear.

You're partly right her, and partly wrong. Neither Islam nor Christianity makes a clear division between Church and State- which is a modern concept. Unlike Christian Europe, the Islamic Middle East doesn't have a history of nations or empires being ruled at the pleasure of clerics prior to the Iranian revolution in 1979.

Certainly the Caliph has a title that implies a religious role, but it ceased being a role doled out by the religious leadership when Ali - the prophet's son-in-law was defeated in an internal civil war that culminated in the establishment of the Umayyad dynasty.

It takes nothing beyound her own hatred for Hirsi Ali to find justification for her antidemocratic politics. It shines clearly in her advocacy for a religious war against Islam to force Muslims to submit to foreign dictates about the nature of their faith. Certainly it is detestible that people commit murder in the name of their religion, but it's hardly a phenomenon unique to Islam. Nor is it clear that it would the would be the target of such rage if she weren't arguing in favour of violence against Islam as an entirety, or if she hadn't occupied a position in government that empowered her to support that aim.

In siding with however-many-faceted Islam against Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Brull certainly shows where his own priorities lie. Perhaps if like Hirsi Ali he had been genitally mutilated as a Muslim child and had had as many death threats and associates murdered by people who take their Islam pretty seriously, he might have written a more blanced article than this diatribe against any thought of Islamic reformation, and against those who struggle within Islamic societies to bring such reform about.

In delivering an uncritical defence of Ayaan Hirsi Ali you show where your own priorities lie. It's horrific that Ms Hirsi Ali was victimized in that way, but it in noway excuses her call for war against Islam. She, unlike he defenders, doesn't seem to mince words about her intentions toward Islam. She declares that we are already at war, and she insists that Islam must be crushed in all spheres - militarily, economically, politically - and the West's agenda forcibly imposed upon them.

She however is no keen historian. The Reformation was no painless rethinking of Christianity. It was a period of some of the most bloody violence in European history, the shattering of societies, the rise of extremism and political and military opportunism. Relgious doctrine was used as a justification settle old scores, to struggle against long-standing oppressive social conditions, or to profit militarily or politically.

It actually looks a lot like the Middle East right now.

ChairmanMao
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 13:00

Frankly I detest the misinformation and hatred peddled by this article. Biased, Muslim apologetics and ultra-left wing peddling of an anti-US, anti Conservative agenda. Again and again, assertions without proof.

Brull doesnt understand Hirsi nor Sam Harris, and selectively quotes statements. Hirsi has since retracted her statement that we should be at war with the ideology of "Islam". This is well understood by all. After all...

WHY ELSE WOULD SHE WRITE A BOOK ABOUT REFORMING IT?

The anti Jewish hatred present in this article is highlighted by the failure to identify any anti Israeli, or anti-semitism from the Palestinian side. Why only tell one side of the story? Does Brull seriously contend that ONLY ISRAEL and the WEST is racist? Please spare me your opinion if you insist on peddling such bias and hate.

If you disagree with Hirsi Ali's views then fine, but try to present an argument based on refuting her contentions rather than simplemindedly labelling her as racist or an Islamaphobe. If this black African woman is somehow racist towards Arabs and presumably all the other races who practise Islam provide your evidence. 

Brull obviously has a pet hatred for New Atheist writers but needs to seriously read their works before commenting further.

The assertion with proof that the Caliph is not a religious role is patently ridiculous. It is an ISlamic Caliphate proscribed by religious tradition and teachings.

those who think Islam must be immune from any criticism invoke the fallacy that it cannot be isolated into one thing. It has the mysterious ability to morph itself into whatever form its worshippers wish. However, this is an insult to believers as they do not believe their doctriens can be one and all things at the same time - infact, often the punishment is death for practising the wrong one. Their varying intepretations of Allah and Muhammads teaching are the root cause of much of the problem, not an excuse to evade criticism.

Brulls'a rgument rests on his refusal to understand that in middle East "politics", the geo-political is intertwined with religious beliefs. The allegiances of political groups and countries are mostly defined by their religious sect. So inserting "politics" as the explanation for violence in the middle east betrays a childlike refusal to acknowledge the beliefs of the political entities involved. When one keeps the blinkers its easier to come up with an opinion that one side is 100% right (Palestinians) and the other (Israel and the West) are 100% wrong, as Brull repeatedly suggests. This is a demonstration of the sort of prejudice Brull attempts to rail against. Both sides are wrong and both are motivated by self-interested pursuit of their political goals based on a providential belief in the right to occupy the land concerned. Taking sides helps them perpetuate their hatred.

There is nothing in this article which credibly explains why the ideology of Islam features so prominently in world terrorism, where others don't. There are plenty of other victims of Western imperialism, sufferers of inequality and poverty. When an explosion goes off just after the perpetrators have shouted Allahu Akbar then naturally there are many who rush to avoid the obvious conclusion, and instead lend an ear to the grievances of the murderers and blame the dead. It would be good to hear a left wing voice that wasn't prey to this folly.

 

O. Puhleez
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 17:43

A2K:

It's amazing to think that you seem to believe that someone in a similar position has no business speaking out against the atrocities that occurred as a consequence of an event broadly celebrated because without it he wouldn't have been born.

Seeming is in the eye of the beholder. I was merely making a passing observation of one of life's many ironies: no more. What it 'seems' to you or anyone else I have no control over.

It takes nothing beyound [sic] her own hatred for Hirsi Ali to find justification for her antidemocratic politics. It shines clearly in her advocacy for a religious war against Islam to force Muslims to submit to foreign dictates about the nature of their faith.

Can you supply a source link from Hirsi Ali to back up that assertion? It seems to me inconsistent with her Reason interview of 2007.

Certainly it is detestible that people commit murder in the name of their religion, but it's hardly a phenomenon unique to Islam.

I may be wrong, but I think that you will find that the overwhelming bulk of religiously motivated murder and violence in the modern world is perpetrated by Muslims.  Some Burmese Buddhists made the headlines a while ago by attacking Muslims, but that was because such Buddhist violence is rare. 

Hindu mobs occasionally rampage in India, and the age of Christian violence is largely past. The Jews of Israel have got themselves into a siege situation as only they know how to engineer, but every time any traveller anywhere goes through a baggage check before boarding a plane, he or she is reminded that what the authorities are looking for is a Muslim fanatic, male or female.

That is, a Muslim fanatic.

http://reason.com/archives/2007/10/10/the-trouble-is-the-west/

This user is a New Matilda supporter. Chris Graham
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 21:37

That's some gold standard ignorance and world class inaccuracy O.Puhleez.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. ErikH
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 23:19

Aaron, in addition to Marilyn's response and some of the later comments, it was actually Hindus who seem to have invented the idea of suicide bombers. Check out the history of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. Mind you, the harakiri practised by Japanese fighter pilots in World War 2 predated them. Then there were the berserkers of Nordic origins.

Don't get carried away by the way the MSM have presented all of this.

O. Puhleez
Posted Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 00:25

CG:

For your own and the NM readership's consideration: The opening remarks by ex-Muslim blogger Maryam Namazie at the World Humanist Congress 9 August 2014

 

Islam in the state is the end of everything worthy of a 21 century life

 

In this day and age, there is most certainly something about Islam.

Not because it is any worse than other religions.

As I have said many times before, all religions are equal and equally bad.

No religion looks favourably upon women, gay and lesbians, freethinkers, dissenters, other religions or atheists, and blasphemers, heretic and apostates… Punishing freethinkers is a long-standing and fundamental feature of all major religions.

But there is something about Islam primarily because it is the banner of Islamism, a far-Right political movement, spearheading what I call an Islamic inquisition.

Islamists want the far-Right restructuring of societies – concretely this means a Caliphate or Islamic state, the implementation of Sharia law, the imposition of the burka and compulsory veiling, gender segregation, defending Hududd punishments like death by stoning, and the execution of apostates to name a few.

You don’t have to look far to see what Islamism is. The Islamic regime of Iran. The Saudi government. Hamas. Boko Haram. Muslim Brotherhood, Hizb Ut Tahrir and the Taliban.

And of course the Islamic State (formerly known as ISIS) which has made tremendous advances over the past few days and months and which continues to shock and outrage humanity with its sheer terror and brutality.

ISIS is Islamism without its palatable wrappings often fed to people in Europe and the West where its manifestations like Sharia courts in Britain and the Law Society’s guidance on Sharia wills (which institutionalises Islamist values) – are portrayed as people’s “right to religion” even by some humanist groups.

Whilst there are differences in degree amongst Islamists as there are in any phenomenon, fundamentally they are all striving for the same things. Including groups like IERA in the UK which has charitable status and debates well known scientists and atheists whilst defending the Caliphate, death to apostates (they say beheading is painless) and segregating British universities.

Some keep telling us of such “moderate” or “soft” Islamists. There are none.

Fascism is fascism no matter how it is wrapped and dressed.

There is also, given the context, no moderate Islam. Even if there are a million interpretations, today, Islam is what ISIS tells you it is. It is what Khamenei in Iran says it is. It is what the Taliban says it is by sheer and brute force. In many places, you must either submit to their Islam or die.

When religion is in the state or has influence it is no longer a question of personal belief but of political power.

Of course when I talk about Islam I am not speaking of Islam as a personal belief or Muslims who are believers like my father and mother or some of yours.

People practice Islam and religion in innumerable personal ways; they pick and choose what aspects fit their lives and more often than not, people’s humanity shines through whatever their religion or belief.

Being Muslim doesn’t mean one is an Islamist anymore than being Turkish means you support Erdokan, or being Nigerian means you are with Boko Haram or being British means you are a supporter of the British National Party or Christian Right.

No group, community, society is homogeneous. As Kenan Malik says “secularism and fundamentalism are not ideas stitched into people’s DNA. They are, like all values, absorbed, accepted, rejected”.

In fact, Muslims or those perceived to be Muslims are the first victims and at the forefront of resistance against Islamism.

Karima Bennoune highlights nearly 300 such people and groups of Muslim heritage as she calls them who refuse and resist in her book called “your fatwa does not apply here”.

Also, over the past decades, many have “voted” against Islamism with their feet by fleeing Islamic states and movements in unprecedented numbers.

Right now, thousands of Yazidis considered devil worshipers by ISIS languish in the mountains of Sinjar with children dying of thirst and nowhere to go surrounded by ISIS.

Islam today isn’t a private matter, especially not during an inquisition.

Islam is not just the ‘opium’ of the masses as Marx has said but their genocidaire.

Of course, it is good to be balanced and speak of all religions as being equally problematic. Even after the enlightenment has removed much of Christianity’s power and influence, Christianity is still not a benign force; it creates misery where it can.

But you cannot look at ISIS right here and now and its beheadings and crucifixions and sexual jihad and speak of similar attitudes during Victorian England or Europe’s dark ages.

ISIS represents our dark ages today in the 21st century.

It is good to be balanced – particularly when you have a far-Right using the issue of Sharia law and Islamism to attack immigrants and Muslims and absurdly demanding a ban on the Koran as if the Bible was banned to stop the Spanish inquisition. A far-Right that feigns “crocodile tears” for those killed by Islamists yet cheers the massacre of innocent civilians in Gaza by the Israeli state.

It is important to be balanced but one must also be fair and just.

If we cannot see that there is something about Islam and Islamism, then we cannot respond as we must.

And if we don’t, who will?

Defending freethought and expression is crucial in this fight. Defending blasphemy and apostasy cases are important. Removing blasphemy laws from the legal system is key.

The Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain deals with hundreds of such cases every year. But it is not enough to defend free expression and thought within a limited human rights or legal context.

We must see blasphemy and apostasy laws and a defence of free expression within the larger context of religion in general and Islam in particular vis-a-vis the question of political power.

Islam in the state or with political power is the end of freethought and the end of free expression.

It is the end of democratic politics.

It is the end of women’s rights and gay rights and the rights of minorities. It is the end of everything worthy of a 21 century life.

It is a return to the dark ages.

A Humanist congress today can only begin and end united for Sinjar and united against ISIS.

It must stand unequivocally against Islamism, Sharia law and the Caliphate. This is not about “people’s right to religion”. It is about stopping Islamism’s right to kill and slaughter and oppress.

A humanist congress must stand for equality (of people – not religions and beliefs), for universal rights, and for secularism and the separation of religion from the state – not just for Europe but the world.

This is not a clash of civilisations. It’s a clash between the theocrats and fascists versus the rest of us – Muslim, Atheist and none.

As the late Marxist Mansoor Hekmat said:

“In Islam … the individual has no rights or dignity. In Islam, the woman is a slave. In Islam, the child is on par with animals. In Islam, freethinking is a sin deserving of punishment. Music is corrupt. Sex without permission and religious certification, is the greatest of sins. This is the religion of death. In reality, all religions are such but most religions have been restrained by freethinking and freedom-loving humanity over hundreds of years. This one was never restrained or controlled.”

Restraining it – controlling it – in this day and age – that is our task.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/maryamnamazie/2014/08/09/islam-in-the-state-is-the-end-of-freethought/

ChairmanMao
Posted Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 11:24

O. Puhleez

What a perfect anti-dote to the deniers of reality.

But you're not playing fair at all. How will they claim that Iranian Maryam Namazie is racist?

Also a woman, and supporter of the Communist party. Hardly the white male right wing bigot that critics of Islam conform to in the minds of people like Brull.

It becomes evident we are talking about "IDEAS" not about races, and peoples. We must be able to discriminate between good ideas and bad ideas. We must place good ideas such as pluralism, liberalism, before bad ideas apostacy, martyrdom and censorship. We must accept that society must CHOOSE to have sharia law, or reject it. We cannot have it both ways. One cannot delude oneself by accepting that all ideologies are equal. Cultural and ideological relativity denies what should be obvious to all - opposing ideologies cannot co-exist - we must make a choice.  

"If we cannot see there is something about Islam and Islamism then we cannot respond as we must"

 

O. Puhleez
Posted Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 00:40

Chairman Mao:

(Your supporters in China always treated you like a god; infallible, all-knowing, etc, etc. How wonderful for us mere fallible commenters here at NM to have the honour of your presence and comments! Can Mohammad, Lenin or other heroes of the current Left be far from joining in as well, from Heaven or wherever else it is they dwell? ;-)

But I digress.

The hostility and size of the western Left to the US was established in the years of protest against the Vietnam War, and in my opinion the US was then supporting a completely reactionary and rotten South Vietnamese cause. Cut to 11 September 2001, and the US suffered a massive blow to its own self-confidence and global image as a superpower, inflicted on it by 20 or so followers of Mohammad, who had discovered that a hijacked airliner was a very powerful kamikaze weapon.

Many on the Left overnight saw militant Islam as a new, welcome and hitherto unrecognised ally. The enemy of their enemy was, in their eyes, their friend. The Islamist idea that the US was 'the Great Satan' could be accomodated to. Add into this the moral complexities of Israel and the Palestinians, where each side is in its own way right, and the result is the split of the modern Left into its pro-totalitarian majority and its anti-totalitarian minority.

In the 1930s the Left was also divided along the same lines, but the anti-totalitarians were in a much smaller minority, arguably spoken for by George Orwell, and the opposing pro-totalitarians included the Stalinist communists AND their Trotskyist opponents.

A reading of the above article by Michael Brull places him in the modern pro-totalitarian Left IMHO. Well, at least for the present. There is a fine line between Islam and Islamism. The latter is the former pushed just that little bit further; and lo! The cause supported by so many on the left turns out to be about as far to the right as it's possible to go.

ChairmanMao
Posted Friday, August 14, 2015 - 08:04

I agree with you. The 'real' liberal, or left, malaise is that it chooses its enemies as its friends, not realising that its actually possible for left and conservatives to both object to fascism in whatever form it takes.