Jon Toogood of Shihad speaking with Australian journalist and author Andrew McMillen for his book 'Talking Smack: Honest Conversations About Drugs', which was published in July 2014 by University of Queensland Press. This clip was filmed at the Brisbane City Botanic Gardens in April 2013, immediately after our hour-long interview on the topic of drug use of all sorts – illicit, legal and prescription – which was then published as one of fourteen chapters in 'Talking Smack'. Jon was visiting Brisbane as Shihad were supporting Black Sabbath on their Australian tour. Jon Toogood: "[The interview] made me think about things I hadn't thought about for a long time. It's quite timely for me, reflecting on my life with drugs from a perspective of not having [used] drugs for a long time." More about 'Talking Smack' below, and at http://talkingsmack.com.au/ ++ 'Talking Smack: Honest Conversations About Drugs' by Andrew McMillen (UQP, 2014) Of all the creative industries, the most distinct link between drug use and creativity lies within music. The two elements seem to be intertwined, inseparable; that mythical phrase “sex, drugs and rock and roll” has been bandied about with a wink and a grin for decades. But is it all smoke and mirrors, or does that cliché ring true for some of our best-known performers? In this fascinating book, journalist Andrew McMillen talks with Australian musicians about their thoughts on – and experiences with – illicit, prescription and legal drugs. Through a series of in-depth and intimate interviews, he tells the stories of those who have bitten into the forbidden fruit and avoided choking. This isn’t to say that stories of ruin and redemption are avoided – they’re not. These celebrated performers have walked the straight-and-narrow path of alcohol, caffeine, nicotine and prescription medication, as well as the supposedly dark-and-crooked road of cannabis, cocaine, ecstasy, heroin and methamphetamine. By having conversations about something that’s rarely discussed in public, and much less often dealt with honestly, McMillen explores the truths and realities of a contentious topic that isn’t going away. 'Talking Smack' is a timely, thought-provoking must-read that takes you inside the highs and lows of some of our most successful and creative musicians, including Paul Kelly, Tina Arena, Gotye, Steve Kilbey (The Church), Phil Jamieson (Grinspoon) and Holly Throsby. ++ 'Talking Smack: Honest Conversations About Drugs' was published on 23 July 2014 by University of Queensland Press. The book is available in paperback (RRP $29.95) at bookstores throughout Australia, and as an ebook throughout the world. http://www.talkingsmack.com.au/buy/ Video credits: Creative Direction: Hans van Vliet, IV Motion (http://ivmotion.com.au/) Animation: Hans van Vliet, Zac Bavas and Ryan Grzesiak Music: ‘I Miss You’ by Hunz (http://hunz.com.au) Editing: Hans van Vliet Director: Andrew McMillen

• published: 15 Oct 2014
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