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This is a response to "God vs. Atheism: Which is More Rational?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_P14JjMcM The first thing I have to point out is that it's not God vs atheism; it's theism vs atheism. God isn't involved in this because God doesn't exist. And it's not which one is MORE rational; it's which one is rational at all, and which one is wholly irrational. Some months ago, I said I wouldn't do any more pwnage videos because I wouldn't waste any more time responding to anyone who didn't have a significant negative impact on the community at-large. Then Dr. Peter Kreeft made a video attacking atheists with the same fallacious arguments typical of amateur trolls. He misrepresents both his own position and ours with the lies of equivocation and projection, by pretending that assuming baseless conclusions doesn't require faith, but that NOT believing all that unsupported nonsense somehow DOES require faith. It's bad enough that he does this as a professor of philosophy at Boston college, but here he is representing Prager University. A quick look at Prager University's website shows that they're nothing more than a right-wing conservative propaganda machine. They have multiple 'courses' against feminism and social justice, liberals and education, and they promote unregulated free-market capitalism and prioritize military spending and defense of Israel. After reviewing their list of 'courses', I was actually surprised that I didn't see any on climate-change denial or any arguments against vaccination. Maybe next semester? So yeah, they deserve it. http://www.prageruniversity.com/courses.php Apistevist shirt in the video. http://www.mavericmediashop.co.uk/products/apistevist Please check out my Patreon. http://www.patreon.com/aronra
Reformed theologian Dr. James White debates Pastor Bob Enyart of Denver Bible Church on Open Theism: Is the future settled or open? For debate transcripts, post-debate comments from R.C. Sproul Jr. and James White, etc., see http://opentheism.org/james-white and to comment click there on the Forum tab. Slow Connection? The audio version of the debate, at 5,000+ views, is at http://youtu.be/XTgWMX0O5eY. In a hurry? The shocking debate aftermath appears in 2 minutes of excerpts at http://youtu.be/zLiPpcqSKVQ.
To help support this ministry click here: http://www.patreon.com/inspiringphilosophy In my opinion this is the worst objection a skeptic can use when debating a theist and atheists alike agree. Here is the full talk with Michael Ruse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhzgg59bVLU Here is Common Sense Atheism in agreement with me on this: http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=6113 Our defense of Cosmological Argument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ULF5WixMM *If you are caught excessively commenting, insulting, or derailing then your comments will be removed. If you do not like it you can watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0Hq-sy3Wg&feature;=plcp "Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."
This is the deconversion playlist of Youtuber Evid3nc3 combined into a single video. It is a very powerful and educational series that I encourage everyone to watch. Note: I removed the post-deconversion videos in the interest of saving time, however if you would like to see the last few videos, you can do so starting with this one: http://youtu.be/dpy65mysu5s 9:48 The God Concept 15:16 Prayer 23:53 Morality 33:43 Other Christians 50:58 The Bible 1:10:21 Personal Relationship 1:29:20 Deconversion: The End 1:46:08 A New Way of Seeing God 1:55:57 Atheism: Definitions Full playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0C3C1D163BE880A
Filmed at The College of New Jersey, Frank Turek and Christopher Hitchens meet again in their second debate to give their arguments for what best explains reality. The title is "What Best Explains Reality: Atheism or Theism?" Recorded at the College of New Jersey! Read comments in the CrossExamined blog here http://www.crossexamined.org/blog/?p=117 . If you'd like to order a DVD of this debate, click http://bit.ly/ihYBZa).
Another piece of the debate Turek vs. Hitchens at VCU in Richmond, VA complete at: http://www.vimeo.com/1904911 CH argument: There is an infinite possibility of "god-assertions" (Ra, Jehova, Huitzlopochtli, etc. up to the "personal god") that cannot be disproven. Atheists however do not deny those gods existence, which is logically impossible, they simply say there is no empirical evidence for such an assertion. Deism, while being empirically not necessary -science offers better explanations- is also not Theism: the argument from design does not imply (and cannot) the Christian god or any interventionist god. Further, the spiritual language of many scientists does not necessarily mean they believe in god. Interesting for those who want to learn how to argue consistently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
Which offers a better explanation for reality--Theism or Atheism? On April 18, 2013, Dr. Frank Turek, noted Theist and David Silverman, President of American Atheists met on the stage of Broadmoor Baptist Church in Shreveport, LA. The debate, called Examine Reality, was watched in person by an audience of over 1400 people, and by several hundred people online from places as far away as Norway. http://www.realitydebate.com/ Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. All copyrighted materials contained herein belong to their respective copyright holders, I do not claim ownership over any of these materials. In no way do I benefit either financially or otherwise from this video.
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Freddy Davis shares the basics of the Theistic worldview.
Jesse Morrell of www.OpenAirOutreach.com teaches on open theism and why he became an open theist. Is open theism biblical? This is the first in a coming series. IS OPEN THEISM BIBLICAL: https://biblicaltruthresources.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/is-open-theism-biblical-what-is-foreknowledge-can-god-change-the-future-jesse-morrell/ Join THE OPEN THEIST REFORMATION: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheOpenTheistReformation/ BOOKS ON OPEN THEISM: https://biblicaltruthresources.wordpress.com/books/theology-books/ ________________________________________ The Morrell Family is a Missionary Family that is supported by the body of Christ. They bring the gospel to the lost full time through open air ministry. To find out how you can help support the Morrell's, visit their website at http://www.openairoutreach.com/support.html ________________________ Subscribe to OpenAirOutreach: http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=openairoutreach And Subscribe to BibleTheology: http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=bibletheology ___________________________ Every once and a while we send out an email newsletter to let people know what our ministry has been up to. They usually contain ministry reports with pictures, apologetics and salvation testimonies. And also helpful articles, videos and information about new books we have published. They also contain our itineraries for when we are touring around for evangelism. If you would like to receive these email updates to stay informed about our ministry, send an email to: openairoutreach-join@associate.com This will confirm your subscription to our list with our service provider for mass emails.
C.S. Lewis: It must be understood that my conversion at that point was only to theism pure and simple. I knew nothing yet about the incarnation. The God to whom I surrendered was sheerly non-human. C.S. Lewis: [Reading from Chesterton] A great man knows he is not God and the greater he is, the better he knows it. The gospels declare that this mysterious maker of the world has visited his world in person. The most that any religious prophet has said was that he was the true servant of such a being. But if the creator was present in the daily life of the Roman empire, that is something unlike anything else in nature. It is the one great startling statement that man has made since he spoke his first articulate word. It makes dust and nonsense of comparative religion. C.S. Lewis: As I drew near to Christianity, I felt a resistance almost as strong as my previous resistance to theism. As strong but shorter lived for I understood it better. But each step, one had less chance to call one's soul one's own. C.S. Lewis: What Tolkien showed me was this — that if I met the idea of sacrifice in a pagan story I didn't mind it at all — I was mysteriously moved by it. The reason was that in pagan stories I was prepared to feel the myth as profound. Now the story of Christ is simply a true myth. C.S. Lewis: I know very well when but hardly how the final step was taken. I went with my brother to have a picnic at Whipsnade Zoo. We started in fog, but by the end of our journey the sun was shining. When we set out I did not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and when we reached the zoo I did. I had not exactly spent the journey in thought. Nor in great emotion. It was more like when a man, after a long sleep, becomes aware that he is now awake.
Hitler is confronted with Open Theism. All materials are being used for education and are subject to fair use.
On the 15th of January 2015, A C Grayling gave a talk to Exeter University's Atheist, Humanist and Secular Society entitled 'Atheism, Theism and Proof'. A C Grayling is a prolific philosopher, Vice-President of the British Humanist Association, and Master of the New College of Humanities. Often dubbed the ‘fifth horseman of New Atheism’, Grayling has written widely on the subjects of religion, Humanism, and morality, most recently in ‘The God Argument’.
For more on the Religious Freedom Project, visit: http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/rfp For more on the Berkley Center, visit: http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu For Part 2 of this discussion, visit: http://bit.ly/1bMWAKc January 7, 2012 | Standing Seminar: Theism, Naturalism, and Rationality Presentation: Alvin Plantinga Alvin Plantinga is the John A. O'Brien Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame. One of the most important living philosophers of religion, he is credited with helping revive Christian philosophy. Acclaimed for his work on metaphysics, the problem of evil, and the epistemology of religious belief, he is the author or editor of many books, including God and Other Minds, The Nature of Necessity, Faith and Rationality, and a major trilogy on "Warrant" which argues, among many other things, that belief in God is "properly basic."
For more resources visit: http://www.reasonablefaith.org In 2011 Dr William Lane Craig spoke at the Forum of Christian Leaders (FOCL) in Hungary. While there he spoke on the topic, "Five Arguments for Theism" and took questions from the audience to accompany his lecture. This video is the full-length lecture with question and answer periods. We welcome your comments in the Reasonable Faith forums: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/forums/ Be sure to also visit Reasonable Faith's other channel: http://www.youtube.com/drcraigvideos Follow Reasonable Faith On Twitter: http://twitter.com/rfupdates Add Reasonable Faith On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/reasonablefaithorg
Church Communications Network [ or CCN ] was a satellite broadcasted station that churches could subscribe to. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r3YAHsDRlc . The network lasted from 1998-2010 when it abruptly and without warning shut down down in July of 2010. See http://underoneblog.blogspot.ca/2010/07/church-communications-network-shuts.html .
Lewis: The new Psychology was at that time sweeping through us all. We were all influenced. We were all concerned about fantasy, or wishful thinking. I formed the resolution of always judging and acting with the greatest good sense. Walter Hooper: He was saying that all youth at that time were trying to escape from wish fulfillment dreams. They got that from Freud. And they wanted to in one way spit on the images of their youth, and go onto they knew not what. But, anyway, leave that behind because it was juvenile. Lewis: I was at that time living like many atheists; in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with him for creating a world. Why should creatures have the burden of existence forced on them without their consent? Lewis: All the books were beginning to turn against me. Indeed, I must have been as blind as a bat not to have seen, long before, the ludicrous contradiction between my theory of life and my actual experiences as a reader. The most religious were clearly those on whom I could really feed. Lewis: I can only describe it as the Great War between Barfield and me. When I set out to correct his heresies, I find that he had decided to correct mine! And then we went at it, hammer and tongs, far into the night, night after night. Duriez: Barfield believed that the imagination plays a very important part in how we know. He rejected the model that science is the only way to truth, to acquiring truth. He felt that the imagination was laid behind even the work of science. It gave meaning to propositions. And so he felt that Lewis was missing out in his whole approach to reality on what made knowledge possible. Peter Kreeft: When Lewis talks about joy, he talks about something that he labels the central theme of his whole life. But what he means by joy is not the satisfaction of a desire, but a desire that is more desirable than any satisfaction. Lewis: There was no doubt Joy was a desire. But a desire is turned not to itself, but to an object. I had been wrong in supposing that I desired for Joy itself. All value lay in that of which Joy was the desiring. The naked other. Unknown, undefined, desired. I did not yet ask "Who is desired?" Kreeft: The very experience of Joy that Lewis had was an arrow that led to the target of belief in God. Lewis argued innate, deep desires do not exist unless they correspond to something that can satisfy them. If there is hunger, there is food. If there is sexual desire, there is sex. If there is curiosity, there is knowledge. So if there is the desire for this thing that is beyond this world, there must be something beyond this world. Lewis: The fox had now been dislodged from the wood and was running in the open, bedraggled and weary, the hounds barely a field behind. The odd thing was that before God closed in on me, I was in fact offered what now appears to be a moment of wholly free choice. I was going up Headington Hill on the top of a bus. Without words, and almost without images, a fact about myself was somehow presented to me. I became aware that I was holding something at bay. I felt myself being given a free choice. I could open the door or keep it shut. I chose to open. I felt as if I were a man of snow at long last beginning to melt. Drip-drip. And presently trickle-trickle. I had always wanted, above all things, not to be interfered with. I had wanted — mad wish — to call my soul my own. I had been far more anxious to avoid suffering than to achieve delight. You must picture me alone in that room at Magdalen, night after night, feeling, whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. Total surrender, the absolute leap in the dark, were demanded. I gave in, and admitted that God was God ... perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all England.
http://reknew.org/2012/11/video-qa-what-is-open-theism/ - Greg Boyd discusses the answer to the questions: "What is Open Theism?, How is it relevant today?, and How does this view help the believer?" for the Reknew.org blog.
An excerpt from Bishop John Shelby Spong's lecture "Jesus for the Non-Religious."
Become a patron of Aeon Byte: http://www.patreon.com/aeonbyte. A new voice in Gnostic thought exposes the growing cracks on the two pillars holding up western culture: new atheism and traditional theism. Both movements have been found to lean on shoddy reasoning and ethics; and their views on suffering, free will, and the supernatural are causing widespread anxiety across society. Could the ethos of an ancient heresy known as Gnosticism buttress a crumbling civilization? We make the case for a resounding yes. Astral Guest-- Scott Smith, author of God Reconsidered
First Tenet of Theism: "Hide your proof in the unknown. When the unknown is discovered, hide your proof in the next unknown." If all of what we define as "nature" was caused by something else, then that something else is not necessarily "supernatural". The supernatural is just an invention of religion with no real meaningful properties. "Beyond space and time" say nothing really. If our big bang expansion was caused, for instance, by the collision of other big bang expansions, then such an event would be beyond our space and time, but will necessarily entail other space and time. The bottom line is this: don't ever jump to conclusions. Saying that a certain thing can ONLY be a certain way, without having all the pieces to the puzzle, is extremely foolish. Relying on intuition has historically had a hugely poor track record. Don't do that.
In 2008, Hitchens debated Frank Turek on the subject "Does God Exist". Part of Hitchen's presentation is given here -- he talks about what atheism is and how...
Pastor Mark Driscoll examines Luke 2, where an angel announces the birth of Jesus, Christ the Lord, to shepherds in a field. The angel reveals how we are to ...
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noodls 2015-03-05Nietzsche was clear that the chief sources of liberalism were in Jewish and Christian theism:
The Guardian 2015-03-03Theism, in the broadest sense, is the belief that at least one deity exists. In a more specific sense, theism is a doctrine concerning the nature of a monotheistic God and God's relationship to the universe.Theism, in this specific sense, conceives of God as personal, present and active in the governance and organization of the world and the universe. As such theism describes the classical conception of God that is found in Christianity, Judaism, Islam and some forms of Hinduism. The use of the word theism to indicate this classical form of monotheism began during the scientific revolution of the seventeenth century in order to distinguish it from the then-emerging deism which contended that God, though transcendent and supreme, did not intervene in the natural world and could be known rationally but not via revelation.
The term theism derives from the Greek theos meaning "god". The term theism was first used by Ralph Cudworth (1617–88).Atheism is rejection of theism in the broadest sense of theism; i.e. the rejection of belief that there is even one deity. Rejection of the narrower sense of theism can take forms such as deism, pantheism, and polytheism. The claim that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable is agnosticism. The positive assertion of knowledge, either of the existence of gods or the absence of gods, can also be attributed to some theists and some atheists. Put simply theism and atheism deal with belief, and agnosticism deals with (absence of) rational claims to asserting knowledge.
Christopher Eric Hitchens (13 April 1949 – 15 December 2011) was an English American author and journalist whose career spanned more than four decades. Hitchens, often referred to colloquially as "Hitch", was a columnist and literary critic for New Statesman, The Atlantic, The Nation, The Daily Mirror, The Times Literary Supplement and Vanity Fair. He was an author of twelve books and five collections of essays. As a staple of talk shows and lecture circuits, he was a prominent public intellectual, and his confrontational style of debate made him both a lauded and controversial figure.
Hitchens was known for his admiration of George Orwell, Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson, as well as for his excoriating critiques of various public figures including Mother Teresa, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger and Diana, Princess of Wales. Although he supported the Falklands War, his key split from the established political left began in 1989 after what he called the "tepid reaction" of the Western left to the Rushdie Affair. The September 11 attacks strengthened his internationalist embrace of an interventionist foreign policy, and his vociferous criticism of what he called "fascism with an Islamic face." His numerous editorials in support of the Iraq War caused some to label him a neoconservative, although Hitchens insisted he was not "a conservative of any kind", and his friend Ian McEwan describes him as representing the anti-totalitarian left.
(Konishi/Takanami)
Translators: Andrei Cunha
itsu demo ai wa
te-gotae ga nai
futari wa kao mo
miawasezu ni
hohoemu
futari kiri yoru no
shizuka na pool ni
tada ukande iru dake
sore demo ai wa
owari ga nakute
umai iiwake
omoi tsukazu ni
hohoemu
futari kiri yoru no
tsumetai pool de
ima mo oborete yuku
daremo tasukete kurenai
daremo kotaete kurenai
shizunde shimau yo
keredomo ai wa
mae-bure mo naku
futari wo tada
okisari ni shite
kieru yo
futari kiri yoru no
tsumetai pool de
ima mo oborete yuku
daremo tasukete kurenai
daremo kotaete kurenai
shizunde shimau yo
futari kiri yoru no
tsumetai pool de
ima mo oborete yuku
daremo tasukete kurenai
nanimo kotaete kurenai
daremo tasukete kurenai
daremo kotaete kurenai
shizunde shimau yo
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love never
gets back to you
and we try to avoid
to look at each other
when we smile
we are alone
at night in a quiet pool
we're just floating
but still
love is endless
and i can't find
a good excuse
i just smile
we are alone
at night in a cold pool
and we just drown
nobody can help us
nobody will answer
we'll just sink
but love never gives you
a previous sign
it will just
go away
and leave us
we are alone
at night in a cold pool
and we just drown
nobody can help us
nobody will answer
we'll just sink
nobody can help us
nobody will answer
we'll just sink
nobody can help us
nobody will answer
nobody can help us
nobody will answer
we'll just sink
[music: Brandstrom, Jivarp, Henriksson]
what we always fear and loathe
becomes of us
repay the visit of our loss
reset the marks again
the turning point
seems to be holding on
sands of ages and the stars above
everchanging as the same hearts beat
repeating 'til the end
seas of slander and the soil we walk
everchanging as the same hearts beat
it ends up all the same
the sail that never knew the wind
barren and lost
our wrecks these shores will never reach
a trek on darker trails
let days be done
(Music: Brändström, Jivarp, Henriksson)
What we always fear and loathe
Becomes of us
Repay the visit of our loss
Reset the marks again
The turning point
Seems to be holding on
Sands of ages and the stars above
Everchanging as the same hearts beat
Repeating _til the end
Seas of slander and the soil we walk
Everchanging as the same hearts beat
It ends up all the same
The sail that never knew the wind
Barren and lost
Our wrecks these shores will never reach
A trek on darker trails
Let days be done
It takes forever
Things havent changed
You havent changed
And I havent changed
Things that you say
You want to change
You havent changed
Youre still the same
The words that you never approve of
The way that you call out my name
The lies that you tell to protect me
The same
Playing in your little games
You try to make me go crazy
Im stronger then i was before
You tried but you failed me
And this time im ready for war
Things havent changed
You havent changed
And I havent changed
Things that you say
You want to change
You havent changed
Youre still the same
The time that we wasted on our fighting
The same
The things that we argue about
Excuses you give about everything
The reasons i give why i shout
And how things could have been better
If i never met you before
You try but your failing me
And this time im ready for war
Things havent changed
You havent changed
And I havent changed
Things that you say
You want to change
They stay the same
Things havent changed
We just stay the same
You havent changed
I havent changed
We havent changed
The Same lyrics by Emf
The Same
When you came here, I saw you
When I saw you, I knew you
When I knew you, I hunched up
Turned you away
I have a friend, who takes my hand
Shows me new consciousness, understands
That the risks obscure, are plainer to see
Than the risks you get from me
For real it washes in the rain
Hanging out, it never quite seems the same
For real, it washes in the rain
Hang it out, hang it out sometime
It's never the same
I have a tendency to take what I find
Show my awareness, not feel blind
That the risks obscure, are plainer to see
For a minute there I almost believed you
And I wanted to forgive you for everything you've done
And I could feel safe but miserable
In a familiar world of lies and misinformation
But then I remembered that everything you've ever said
and everything you've ever done
add up to more wrongs,
than could ever make a right
So don't try to talk to me
'cause a thousand Fuck You's would never be enough
So I'm only gonna say this once
I still need you
When I'm in this pathetic state
But you would detest me even more
And I would burn even harder
I would burn
Burn away from you
Nothing good ever came from you
You only brought me down
Nothing good ever came from you
Will I ever be the same?
And I still need you here by my side
Now that I'm in this pathetic state
But you would detest me even more
Passing judgement I was never any better saying the
things I didn't mean looking back I can't recall why I
said anyhting at all. Failling myself time and again I
try and regain my strength a broken promise I have grown
to accept I was never better then them. No better then
them. Trading places and still I ask what would I have
dones if I were them illuisons of being better when all i
I love you in the same way
You love me, I know
And I love you in the same way
I deserve you
And you deserve what you've got
You have no flaws
And I, in the same way I deserve you
It's four in the morning
And you come home nice and clean
Smelling like musk
What a cheap perfume
But you were working
Pulling a night shift
Of course I believed you!!!
And please give back those panties
That your cousin -poor thing-
That she left underneath the seat
Of your truck
You love me, I know
And I love you in the same way
I deserve you
And you deserve what you've got
You have no flaws
And I, in the same way
I deserve you
Just yesterday I called you
Someone named Joselina picked up
A hard-working girl
Working till late at night
Every day of the week
But anyway...
You have no flaws
And I, in the same way
I love you, darling
Sorry if I was late
But I had so many problems
Getting home...
My car broke down
I ran out of gas
Flat tire, or something in the starter...
Imagine my luck
This happened right in front of a restaurant
In a somewhat odd neighborhood
So I went in, sat down, and ate
And you'll never guess what I saw...
You dancing, baby
You were with someone, that Joselina
Or maybe that was your cousin
I didn't make a fuss, baby
Because I know it's just for work
So that's why I danced, drank
Made new friends...
Let people talk
Oh skull, what killed you?
land, land of my birth
are you my mother
or am i an orphan
where, where do i belong
will i find a place in this world
or forever just wander around
southern hemisphere
how did i end up here
i have nowhere to go
this is the only home that i know
such a great divide
between you and i
how i wish it would go
i live in a place in my mind
no i don't listen to kwaito, wasn't born in soweto
i don't understand you
but i want to you know
same, were both the same
we share the same heart
we're made of the same parts
please don't look at me that way
i already live with the guilt that i own
from my forefather's past
does this land belong to the tribes who engraved her stones with stories of old
they're long gone you know
now this is our home
i want to strip you down to the core
take off your shirt, hat, shoes and trousers
erase my head, all the books that i've read
the language i speak, the customs you keep
keep on going right down to the heart
to the pain that is yours - the pain that is ours
tell you it's all going to be alright
is it going to be alright
heal, can you heal
heal, oh can you heal
heal, oh mother, can you heal
or am i an orphan
forever a stranger here
same, we're both the same
we share the same heart
It feels like a touch in feeling.
oh it feels like you know what exactly i'm saying.
When you walked into the bar and you saw my face
you knew how puzzled i was, cause saw that expression on your face
It looks to me that you know what it feels like
cause it looks like to me that you know how i feel inside
When i saw your face you walked this way
and i know your ways so dont think i dont
I know you know what it feels like
yeah you know how feel inside
Look at me look at you whats the differense
your a boy i'm a girl that doesnt matter
its the same
yeah its the same when you......
look at me look at you whats the differense
your a boy im a girl that doesnt matter
cause when you look at me only i can see
you know what it feels like
you know how i feel inside.