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Treasurer Joe Hockey rejects Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest's iron ore 'cartel' suggestion

Beg to differ: Federal Treasurer Joe Hockey, left,  and mining magnate Andrew Forrest.

Beg to differ: Federal Treasurer Joe Hockey, left, and mining magnate Andrew Forrest.

Treasurer Joe Hockey has rejected a suggestion by mining billionaire Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest that the world's iron ore companies ought to band together to restrict iron ore supplies to stop global prices falling.

We're not very supportive of cartels at all 

Joe Hockey

Mr Forrest made the suggestion on Tuesday night at a business dinner in Shanghai, saying major miners such as BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, and Brazil's Vale – and his own Fortescue Metals – should cap their production of iron ore to prevent prices falling to unprofitable levels.

Mr Forrest made the suggestion when arguing that smaller iron ore producers could be forced out of the market if prices stayed around $50 a tonne, and that Chinese steel mills were concerned about eventually being left with only a few players to buy iron ore from.

He said major players such as Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton should also cap their production "and we'll find the iron ore price goes straight back up to $US70, $US80, $US90".

"I'm happy to put that challenge out there, let's cap our production right here and start acting like grown-ups," Mr Forrest said.

But Treasurer Hockey rejected Mr Forrest's idea on Wednesday, telling reporters in Canberra he was not a fan of it - even though it would generate extra revenue for the government.

"We're not very supportive of cartels at all," Mr Hockey said.

"It is important that we continue to believe, as we always have as Liberals, in free markets."

The Treasurer instead suggested the best way to boost iron ore profits in a low-price era was to improve infrastructure in parts of the world, such as India, where iron ore suppliers do not have great access.

"The lack of infrastructure in India means it's hard to get those shipments over there," Mr Hockey said.

"So anything we can do to help to build port infrastructure in India with the Indian government ... is actually going to be to our great advantage.

"This is where if we contribute a bit we can get a lot, and that's certainly at the forefront of our thoughts about signing the memorandum of understanding for the Asian Investment Bank."

Mr Forrest's 'price cap' comments have earned the attention of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, with ACCC chairman Rod Sims warning on Wednesday he "will be looking closely at Mr Forrest's comments and the context in which they were made".

46 comments so far

  • Amusing. The petrol companies have been putting petrol prices up and down like a well rehearsed ballet for years but the only people who don't think it is a problem is the ACC. If it is a genuine free market, they can charge what they want. Other countries wouldn't think twice about screwing Australia.

    Commenter
    FOGHORN LEGHORN
    Date and time
    Wed Mar 25 05:48:30 UTC 2015
    • Gareth – thanks.

      Reassuring to hear, government isn’t supportive of cartels!

      • A strong reaction from Rod Sims, investigating comments made overseas. I suspect Sims wants to send a message. An investigation of principal, and a comment on their unquestionable support of free markets. Nonetheless, its actions not words that counts.

      • Do we have entirely free markets – I don’t think so. At least Twiggy is being candid about his ideas, unlike some other “cartels” not supported by government or the ACCC, thinking petrol prices for instance (thanks Foghorn Leghorn)

      • Does the unquestionable support of free markets apply when dealing with global industries where some countries/organisations not (always )operate on free-market principles?

      • If we decide this is okay, what other times is it “okay”?

      Commenter
      Running Joke
      Date and time
      Wed Mar 25 07:43:10 UTC 2015
    • Perhaps Twiggy is worried he is going to fall off the iron perch.

      BHP Billiton can ship out iron ore at $25 a tonne.

      That price shows just how much super tax Abbott has lost with his "Stop the tax".

      Commenter
      A Green
      Date and time
      Wed Mar 25 08:00:00 UTC 2015
  • Perhaps Australians should band together to restrict resource companies from funding political parties that help them make off with taxpayer funds to dig up Australia.

    Commenter
    Stuntcar
    Location
    Taxpayer Wonderland
    Date and time
    Wed Mar 25 06:27:29 UTC 2015
    • Mining companies give a lot less to political parties than other businesses, with trade unions, banking, superannuation, retail, healthcare, and energy all well above mining companies.

      However, nice ignorant bash anyway.

      Commenter
      Nick
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      Wed Mar 25 07:25:55 UTC 2015
  • Amazing... every member of OPEC can control output and maximise profits for their countries.. but we're supposed to play nice while everyone else bends the rules to suit them??

    Commenter
    James
    Location
    Perth
    Date and time
    Wed Mar 25 06:31:20 UTC 2015
    • sounds a lot like OPEC

      Commenter
      Peter
      Location
      Raby Bay
      Date and time
      Wed Mar 25 06:33:19 UTC 2015
      • Um, the big iron ore companies have been deliberately increasing production to drive the price down to put out smaller players in Brazil etc. If you can double your output with minimum extra cost, as the big producers can do, you can still make similar profits at half the price. The governments of Australia mainly tax profit (company tax) and output (royalties) so the figures are not as bad as they seem as often the projections we see are made on price and a steady output. The recent price drop in petrol was due to increased production to help wipe out the new and smaller fuel producers in the US who invested while probably needing a high price. Maybe Twiggy just is not big enough? Anyhow will these reports please multiply output by the price to let everyone know the relevant figures and not quote price alone.

        Commenter
        DT
        Date and time
        Wed Mar 25 06:37:06 UTC 2015
        • IF China won't give you the price you need to stay afloat, Twiggy, maybe you could talk up the idea of Australia building an electrosmelting plant in the Pilbara to make iron and steel without coke - and get CSIRO to build a solar thermal power plant nearby to provide the electricity.

          Commenter
          David Arthur
          Location
          Queensland
          Date and time
          Wed Mar 25 06:39:22 UTC 2015
          • isnt the coke needed for the carbon to make the steel?

            Commenter
            davem
            Location
            sydney
            Date and time
            Wed Mar 25 07:33:45 UTC 2015

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