For the first time, the principle devotees who questioned
Srila Prabhupada on May 28th,
1977 and attended him thoroughout his final days, speak out on the "guru" issues. HH
Tamal Krishna Goswami, HH
Satsvarupa Goswami, HG
Hari Sauri Dasa, HG Abhirama Dasa and many others candidly recapture those historical times- and controversial events that followed.
Professor Tom Hopkins offers and academic perspective along with the views of numerous grand-diciples and aspiring disciples. This one hour program invites the inquisitive and curious to experience another dimension, a personal one, to the ritvik debate.
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Shed light on an otherwise convoluted conflict."
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Takes the mystery out of all the word jugglery."
"Reveals heretofore unexplained motive."
"Sets the record straight."
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Goes way beyond the guru proxy issue."
Includes unreleased, newly restored footage of Srila Prabhupada.
PRABHUPADA'S WORDS:
''During the lifetime of your
Spiritual master you bring the prospective disciples to him, and in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples without any limitation. This is the law of disciplic succession.''
SOURCE:
http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/During_the_lifetime_of_your_Spiritual_master_you_bring_the_prospective_disciples_to_him,_and_in_his_absence_or_disappearance_you_can_accept_disciples_without_any_limitation._This_is_the_law_of_disciplic_succession
''Keep trained up very rigidly and then you are bona fide
Guru, and you can accept disciples on the same principle. But as a matter of etiquette it is the custom that during the lifetime of your Spiritual
Master you bring the prospective disciples to him, and in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples without any limitation.''
SOURCE: http://vanisource.org/wiki/Letter_to_Tusta_Krsna_--_New_Delhi_2_December,_1975?terms=preach+preaching&first;=I%20beg%20to%20acknowledge%20receipt%20of%20your%20letter%20dated%2021&last;=very%20widely,%20that%20will%20make%20me%20and%20Krishna%20very%20happy
''Every one of you become guru and deliver the residents of your neighborhood. Ei desa. Wherever you are living, just deliver them.
Become their guru.''
SOURCE: http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/Every_one_of_you_become_guru_and_deliver_the_residents_of_your_neighborhood._Ei_desa._Wherever_you_are_living,_just_deliver_them._Become_their_guru
I am old man. If some of you at least understand this science and take up this science, you become future hope of this country or the world. That is my request to you, that you should take this chance and become a spiritual master for all the people.
SOURCE: http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/I_am_old_man._If_some_of_you_at_least_understand_this_science_and_take_up_this_science,_you_become_future_hope_of_this_country_or_the_world._That_is_my_request_to_you,_that_you_should_take_this_chance_and_become_a_spiritual_master_for_all_the_people
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Disciple means who accept discipline. If there is no discipline, where is disciple? And "disciplic succession." We have used this word. Not that discipline is finished by one man, no. It will continue to go by succession''
SOURCE: http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/Disciple_means_who_accept_discipline._If_there_is_no_discipline,_where_is_disciple%3F_And_%22disciplic_succession.%22_We_have_used_this_word._Not_that_discipline_is_finished_by_one_man,_no._It_will_continue_to_go_by_succession
I am also obliged to them (my students) because they are helping me in this missionary work. At the same time, I shall request them all to become spiritual master. Every one of you should be spiritual master next.
SOURCE: http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/I_am_also_obliged_to_them_%28my_students%29_because_they_are_helping_me_in_this_missionary_work._At_the_same_time,_I_shall_request_them_all_to_become_spiritual_master._Every_one_of_you_should_be_spiritual_master_next
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Every one of us, those who have come to this
Krsna consciousness movement, expected to preach in the future and to become a spiritual master also in the future. But first of all you must spiritualize yourself; otherwise it is useless.''
SOURCE: http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/Every_one_of_us,_those_who_have_come_to_this_Krsna_consciousness_movement,_expected_to_preach_in_the_future_and_to_become_a_spiritual_master_also_in_the_future._But_first_of_all_you_must_spiritualize_yourself;_otherwise_it_is_useless
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!!!MUST READ!!! - Prabhupadas VANI disprooving ritvik philosophy:
http://www.vaniquotes.org/wiki/
Category:Becoming_Guru_%28Disciples_of_SP%29
Ten
Reasons Why the Ritviks Cannot
Follow Srila Prabhupada:
http://www.bvml.org/contemporary/ID_trwtrcfsp
.html
DEFEAT OF RITVIK-VADA (abridged) by Rocana dasa:
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/guru-tattva/dor/dor-a
.htm
“Plain
Vanilla” Made Plainer:
http://www.sivaramaswami.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/plain-vanilla
.pdf
MORE:
http://www.jswami.info/ritvik/
- published: 11 Feb 2015
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