James Lawton: Perhaps Graham Taylor was right – this really is mission impossible

England have pretty much reached breaking point. This is the latest excruciating evidence that their international decline may not have hit rock bottom

Jack Wilshere was a rare bright spark in a dismal England performance

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Jack Wilshere was a rare bright spark in a dismal England performance

Glenn Hoddle, it was widely suggested, spent too much time communing with the fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Kevin Keegan decided he was not up to the job. Sven Goran Eriksson ran a celebrity boys' club and snapped to attention whenever David Beckham did as much as sigh. Steve McClaren talked about Stevie G and all his other world-class players and then found that an umbrella was no protection against his roof falling in.

Quite soon now a final verdict will be passed on Fabio Capello, who came here with what looked like a watertight reputation and a salary of £6m.

On Saturday night you would hardly have given tuppence for his chances of emerging with any credit from the challenge that another of his predecessors, Graham Taylor, once said was impossible.

It means, you have to believe, that we have pretty much reached breaking point.

How else can you interpret a head-to-head battle with Montenegro (population 625,266) for a place in the European Championship finals for which we failed to qualify four years ago, and the latest excruciating evidence that England's decline on the international stage may not yet have touched rock bottom?

That, as much as the haunted expression of Capello, was the implication of England's near bankrupt performance against Switzerland.

Of course, the latest convenience is to hound and ridicule Capello, a development he did not discourage with his decision to play the labouring James Milner in place of Ashley Young. It was an odd move, certainly. Young looked very good against Wales recently, but then almost anyone would have done, and the vision of Young as the new messiah of English football is, despite his lively second-half performance and fine goal when replacing Frank Lampard, surely another case of exaggerated optimism.

The truth is that we can confirm Capello in his status as a dead man walking as often as we like, we can jeer at the quality of his English, but sooner or later we have to look at the record and the culture of English football and say that the sickness is beyond the power of any one man to cure.

Given that before taking over England, Capello was generally considered to be firmly established in the upper echelon of modern coaches, a man of formidable self-confidence and imposing authority, his present plight may just be the clinching evidence that Taylor was right, if not for all the best reasons.

The man who failed to qualify for the World Cup finals of 1994 was most exercised by the clamour of the media and the pressure of expectation. Such demands are not exactly peculiar to England, of course. What certainly is, though, is the abject failure to produce enough players in the national league to walk easily into the international game. More shocking than the need on Saturday to recover from the two goals surrendered by doomsday defence, was the growing reality that in the matter of holding the ball and using it creatively, there were times when the Swiss appeared to have arrived from a superior planet.

We could only be grateful – again – for the fact that at Arsenal Arsène Wenger has had at least one young Englishman to nourish among his collection of gifted foreign imports. Young was made man of the match but the reality was that from start to finish the young English player who most consistently suggested that he might be the product of a leading football nation was Jack Wilshere.

His wit and appetite brought England back into the game when he invaded the composure of his Arsenal team-mate Johan Djourou and won a stonewall penalty. Wilshere gave his team life and that might have been translated into a victory if Darren Bent, a sure-fire predator in the scramble of the Premier League, had made more of the pass that by some distance was the most brilliant piece of English work.

More than anything, Wilshere defined England's greatest need. It is players who can shape a game with their natural authority, who have a presence and an appetite which makes such a joke of claims that the demands on the modern English professional are too great, too draining.

That this excuse should rise again to the surface precisely a week after the latest relentless display from men like Xavi Hernandez and Andres Iniesta can only deepen the English depression. Had this pair been wearing the shirts of Spain rather than Barcelona a week ago, would they also have been gripped by an unshakeable fatigue, the kind we are told was responsible for the collapse of standards we saw at the weekend? The record says not, of course.

In the summer of 2008 in Vienna Xavi and Iniesta won the European Championship final against Germany, another team of apparently unworldly powers of regeneration. The following spring they won the European Cup for Barcelona. Move on another year, and they are winning the World Cup final in Johannesburg despite Dutch attempts to kick them to oblivion.

Yes, these are players of historic quality, but the issue here is fortitude, a willingness to absorb pressure and maintain a competitive edge until a cause is won or lost. It might also be remembered, if some kind of perspective is of value in this interminable debate, that when England last won the World Cup 45 years ago some key figures had played more than 60 games, many of them on pitches with the consistency of ploughed fields.

Yet now we are told Wilshere is worn out and that it was right that he was talked out of his desire to play – and maybe win a tournament – with the England Under-21 team this summer.

If anything was worn out at Wembley it was most certainly not Jack Wilshere. More likely it was the time-besieged belief that England's football can be revived by anything less than a revolution of values and commitment by the men who, when they are disposed, when they are not nursing some level of pique, deign to wear the English shirt.

It would also help if the Premier League gave more than nominal encouragement to young players who, in improved circumstances, might just qualify.

 

  • �Lets not get carried away. Milner, Johnson et al are not the main players at City.
  • A winter break will not improve the technique of English players, neither will fewer competitions. IT will only make them have more energy for headless chicken football. l remember before the CL final, lots of analysts kept hammering home the fact that United players would be fresher than Barcelona cos they have played less games. And that the trip from Manchester to London was obviously shorter than from Barcelona.What advantage did this give them on the night? lt's not about energy levels but technique.
  • "Barcelona play in a league that is about as competitive (poor) as Scotland's - almost as if the Premier league was made up of Championship teams with the Manchester teams, Chelsea and Arsenal in the mix" This is such an uninformed statement. How many times in the last five years has a team that isn't Man United or Chelsea won the premiership? Surely you cannot be referring to the likes of Everton and Aston Villa as competition? Liverpool for all their poor start under Hodgson still finished fifth!! Man City spent and spent and spent to break into the top four and Arsenal regardless of how little they buy, how well they start the league and how poorly they end it always finish in the top four. Most of the competition in the premiership is really for 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th positions, not the top four or five so dont kid yourself. If Barcelona and Real Madrid were in the German, French, Dutch, Scottish, Belgian, Italian or English leagues, they would very likely turn those into two horse races as well, as they already are in all these countries, barring France, probably the most competitive league since Lyon's dominance ended.
  • dinsdale_piranha
    I stuck with hatstandozonelayerbandstand- at your suggestion - and what you say is dead right - I have to admit his prose does hurt my head at times - but he is funny and fair - so - like the man says - if you don't like it - don't read it - certainly no need to get so anal as to complain about it ! These pages bristle with pseudo-intellectual bombasts - and Kstand is a breath of fresh air - succinct and worth he read - unlike the self-important pedants. (I have a horrible feeling I belong in that latter category ! )
  • hettinga
    The time has come to pass the back page football stories into oblivion. It seems evident now that posing�and belief in those back page or sometimes front page stories are now more important than pride in playing for ones country. Luckily it seems the younger players, Wilshire and Young and the not so young Mr Baines decided all was not lost and took the game almost by the scruff of the neck. As usual Ferninand was seen not to mark anyone, in case they scored and he was supposed to be marking them, Terry huffed and puffed and Lampard seemed to tell Wishire you are on your own�- I have a reputation to keep - whatever it is. Ha ha. To Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard and Gerrard, your time is up. I hope.
  • kingkoopa
    And yet they did...
  • titanic69
    Given the choice between�sitting through�England�v Switzerland - or - watching Wayne Rooney's fake new head of hair grow, next time I'll defintely�pick�the latter.
  • Whenever we see the England at camp in training they are running round cones, doing fitness building exercises being encouraged and shouted at by forty year olds somethings with over developed calf muscles, all part of the English FA coaching manual. Find space, run into space, how many times do we now hear how far a player has run in a game and how hard he as worked. Hold on a minute we are supposed to be training players to play football not win the bloody Grand National. Overseas teams training seems to be more ball focused not fitness focused, you actually see them playing with the ball in training and not just having a five a side kick around at the end of training. Sadly because kids have this FA training from an early age most of the ball skills have been trained out of them. I'm not advocating one man football kick and rush, there has to be structure but a Lionel Messi would have had all the skill 'trained' �out of him if he had been born in England, his way of thinking and the confidence �in his own ability would have �been stifled over here (no dribbling allowed).
  • StevenR11
    Henderson and Rodwell should be played ahead of Gerrard and Lampard but it won't change the problems
  • StevenR11
    The PL: a place where Messi would struggle. Hahahahaah. Pitiful defenders is spot on.
  • google-7b8fe896a250827a3d15d96f1452d38d
    "Bottle?" That's skittles you're thinking of.
  • salllyo57
    �"Secondly that Barcelona play in a league that is about as competitive (poor) as Scotland's - almost as if the Premier league was made up of Championship teams with the Manchester teams, Chelsea and Arsenal in the mix" For this to be a valid argument, Celtic and Rangers would have to be winning the Champions League.....
  • salllyo57
    Agree. When Liverpool were a force to be reckoned with, the training under Paisley and Shankly was mostly WITH the ball. Now, it's all about being big and strong....why?
  • There is a DVD available on Amazon by Charles Hughes entitled 'Soccer Winning Formula', couldn't he be sued under the Trades Descriptions Act?
  • Big_Sur
    From the wiki entry for Charles Hughes (coaching manual still freely available i note): "Hughes presented his ideas in the now defunct magazine�Match Analysis�and concluded most goals were scored from less than three passes. His ideals were developed from the those developed by�World War II�Wing Commander�Charles Reep.[2]�From his statistical analysis, Hughes emphasized the importance of particular areas of the field from where goals were most often scored. He called these area the POMO - Positions of Maximum Opportunity - and asserted that players would score if the ball was played into the POMO enough times. He stressed the importance of�set plays�and�crosses�into the box.[3] Many British coaches advocated his long ball philosophy but critics have derided his philosophy for encouraging a generation of players who lack basic technical skills and have lack of understanding of diversity of different tactical playing strategies." I think any reasonably well-informed individual knows that the man above and his thinking is at the heart of all that is and remains necrotic about the English game. �But maybe the doctrine was an inevitable consequence of the English football command structure - the one that has persisted since its inception more or less: militaristic, rigid, amateurish, divided along class lines. �The blueprint, the meme for English football has its roots in Empire, war and orders issued by a hobbying officer class to our "tommies". �4-4-2 the term is a metaphor for war. �In the heat of battle our brave yet limited tommies learn, on a subconscious level at least, that the orders were wrong, the tactics inept, the preparation and planning amateurish, the equipment not fit for purpose. �A massacre ensues. �Whenever i watch our "brave boys" floundering on some foreign field i cannot help but think about the Somme, Field Marshall Hague, the charge of the light brigade, spion kop, fading empire, white mischief, an island race, county FAs, dad's army etc etc. �I often return to a few lines of the Hardy poem Drummer Hodge (particularly apposite during the last world cup):� They throw in Drummer Hodge, to rest Uncoffined -- just as found: ... Young Hodge the drummer never knew --Fresh from his Wessex home --The meaning of the broad Karoo,The Bush, the dusty loam,And why uprose to nightly viewStrange stars amid the gloam English football needs a new meme. �In the meantime we can watch impassively as our increasingly good impersonation of Scotland becomes uncanny.
  • pjn161
    I think even KStand will admit that he doesn`t make it easy for even his friends on here to read his missives, but, like the rest of us , he is unpaid for his contributions and does so in his own style.� In the couple of years I`ve swapped hundreds of comments with him (He`s an ardent United fan, we tend not to agree all the time..hehe) he has never once, and think about this for a public forum... never once been impolite, aggressive, unfair or inflammatory. That`s quite something. I wish I could say the same about my own contributions. I also have no doubt that his writing style is "affected" and is just his way of standing out from a very crowded forum.� Those of us who "know" him on here have long since gotten over his delivery style and grown to like his good nature, his uncompromising delivery, and not least, his wit and sense of humour. His name is unique, as is his Avatar, so he`s easily avoided if it makes your eyeballs bleed...lol. My suggestion? Stick with the hard work deciphering (its still hard work even for me) if every poster on Disqus showed the consideration and lack of personal anger towards fellow posters he shows (including me) this place would be better for it.
  • TedMaulDisturbs
    Add Barry, Richards, Milner and A Johnson to your list of City players, and it was only last September in the away fixture v Switzerland that at one point there were six City players on the field at the same time for England.
  • Ben
    As usual, media reaction is completely over the top. England were OK in patches but generally poor, Swiss were better than we thought they'd be. We did, however, learn a few things: 1. Lampard is finished. The vast improvement in the 2nd half was as much down to his absence as to Young's presence. You can't afford to have passengers at international level, as the 'lesser' nations have learned that exceptionally high work-rates can more than make up for lower levels of skill. 2. Wilshere is the real deal. He needs protecting and nurturing through to the next international tournament (that we qualify for), rather than being over-relied upon and eventually ruined (see Rooney).� 3. Players like Milner, Parker and Baines may not be top class, but they are willing runners, brave, and try not to let anyone down. Not every player in a team needs to be the next Messi... 4. ... However, Walcott is in the team as an 'impact' player - to take people on, create chances. As such, he really needs to work on his game. Too often he picked the wrong option. Can't see Downing being the solution. Adam Johnson...? 5. Bent should be nowhere near the England team. The one-up-front formation required someone to run tirelessly to provide an 'out', to retain possession, and to be a clinical and ruthless finisher. Bent provided none of these. At least Zamora or Owen would've given us 1 out of 3... 6. Whatever you think of Capello's excuse, there is no doubt that the players were knackered by the end. This is probably because they blew all their energy in the middle 3rd of the game trying to come back from 2 down. Then, spent the next 3rd chasing after the ball because they still haven't figured out that keeping the ball is a good idea in international football.�
  • dat sad but tru fella!!!
  • lol!!!!!
  • gr8 comments fella!!! dats 1 ov da best fings Kstands read 2day!!!
  • bravo fella!!!! Kstand likey!!! u get da Kstand seal ov aprove him!!!
  • walnutt da playa wiv no brain!!! hims rilly fast but he no tap da ball and run past da defnda, him jus run in2 da defenda insted!!!!
  • LessSensational
    I'm with Phil, KStand. Danny, if you know and can picture Ali G, then read it as your head hears it - Harper Lee and Irvine Welsh got nothing but praise for their vernacular. Anyway, back to football. I can't help but wonder if the decline of English effectiveness had anything to do with the shift away from clumping defenders, one or two skill-full wingers, roy of the rovers in midfield and a tall no 10. holding up and flicking on to the penalty box no. 9. That's the kind of football I grew up watching and in part was taught to play. Meanwhile on the continent, my contemporaries were playing a very different skill/technique based game, with positions reserved until they had developed physically. Whatever the reason, the EPL really doesn't help the cause. Too many foreigners, not enough space for homegrown talent to breathe. Here's a question, what does everyone think the best 11 is?
  • Buster77
    Can anyone please tell me why people expect England to do well. It's so simple, just look at our record over the last 40 years... 3 semi finals in 20 competitions. Denmark have done better. We are NOT a foce to be reckoned with and NEVER will be because playing with time on the ball has never been in the culture
  • In fairness, I try and see the substance - but Kstand's writing style hurts my head when I attempt to decipher it.� Kstand - you say that you don't have 'da ritey skill' - but you're capable of reading (and understanding) this and countless other articles and then commenting - so why don't you make an attempt to make your prose a little more legible? It comes across as a bit of a poor excuse really. I often wonder whether you're just an internet version of Ali G, and you actually are a middle class educated comedian that has taken on a persona. If so, you're a bloody genius.�
  • Heard at Craven Cottage this season: Everton were passing Fulham off the pitch and holding them on the edge of their penalty area. They passed the ball from side to side probing and dominating the game. Yet the Everton fans weren't happy as the ball wasn't being lumped into the box and one fan stood up and screamed 'Too much football'.� And we wonder why the English are so abject at the game they invented. It's sad to say but we are now football stupid.
  • Recycling what one retarded fan had to say is hardly indicative of national epidemic. Let's face it - the Premier League have more than enough foreign imports that don't resort to lumping it up field in hope of it landing somewhere fortuitous.� Sorry, I just don't think this argument stands up .....�
  • this is perhaps apropos of nothing and is entirely anecdotal but 2 Fridays ago (day before CL Final) I was out for a walk of an evening and passed a local park where some form of football training/activity was taking place - bibs, cones etc. 2 3 on 3 games were taking place - no keepers etc. throw ins being taken - shots from one end to the other etc. there were coaches/parents taking part in the games lots of endeavour and running about. Went home stuck on the telly and lo and behold there is the barca training session - rondo...if keeping the ball was good enough for their training why are kids doing otherwise? Always comes back to that. Also when a team is playing out time in the EPL and they are having a 'keep ball' session as Andy Gray calls it, why is this not seen as a valid tactic the other 88 minutes of the game? Thinking needs to change.
  • TellItStrait
    Interesting to see lawton is not putting his poison pen to work on giggs.� Terry shags a team mates ex and gets hung out to dry.� giggs shags his brothers wife, and not a jot.� Shame on you and your bias lawton, you're not fit to call yourself a professional commentator.
  • DaveMart
    We are happy with Owen's 5 goals this season from his comparatively few starts, thanks a lot.
  • no old chap seen north of the border too
  • champagnehockey
    The most obvious problem - after watching Barca - was the lack of movement, which meant that when an England player had the ball he rarely had options.� Put the other way around, the red Swiss shirts were more numerous wherever you looked.� You can complain about being physically exhausted, but not from the very outset.� I would argue that it is a mental problem, maybe linked to tiredness but something that the manager/management team�should be able to address - surely the players pass and move for their clubs, if not why are they in the team?� I agree with those who say Capello has proved himself elsewhere, that's obvious and undeniable, and it is unreasonable to blame the goals on him - but if the team don't have the motivation to be mentally on their toes, and therefor physically functioning properly something is wrong on the management side: the skill level might not be the best, but it's better than that demonstrated on saturday.
  • RedJersey
    Now digging that hole with a JCB.
  • DaveMart
    So the problem and solution are what? The article does not mange to arrive anywhere, just flannels on. I'd suggest that the problem was one of poor team selection, with Lampard in particular static and slowing down the whole midfield in the first half. Owen would have buried several of the chances which fell to Bent.
  • pjn161
    My lovely wife of 30 years is a BIG footy fan, she is also quite a patriotic England supporter. I am not. My family history is entrenched in France and Eire, so I`m more Gallic in my international support.... but that doesn`t mean I`m not a very interested observer. It also means that when I pass comment on England, it isn`t out of frustration or disgruntlement, nor is it bitter and angry. But back to my wife... We watched the England game on Saturday, and much to my wife`s frustration, she kept having to ask me... "who`s he again?"..."who does he play for?". Now, before yo start with the sexist rants about her being a woman and they dont know football, it`s worth bearing in mind that the National games attract an audience unbound by tribal affiliations. People who arent bothered if Blackburn or Stoke win or lose, or if Aston Villa are the best Brummie team, still rise up to support their national side in their millions. I`m guessing that whilst my wife may know a fair amount about LFC and Everton and City and United..even Spurs and Chelsea and Arsenal... she can be forgiven for being nonplussed by the makeup of the current England squad. She knew enough to ask, rather pertinently, why England`s top scoring-ratio striker, Peter Crouch, with 20+ goals out of 40+ games, was sitting wearing a blazer and tie in the stands, whilst her National side was sporting a decided lack of goalthreat at Wembley. There is nothing wrong with blooding young players from various teams, and there is no shame in scratching your head at some of the selections. (It happened in 66) ... but England, as well as lacking any kind of cohesive desire to despatch a Switzerland side, also struggle to cope with sides like Montenegro... and this tells its own story. Fitness is not an issue... as others point out often, they are paid handsomely for a lifestyle that has more to do with wages than pride in their skill... so it has to be something far more worrying. I`d love to blame the media... and to some extent I do... but instead of doing the experts job of a forensic breakdown analysis of all thats wrong with the England mentality, I can sum it up in one word. "Bottle". They lack it. You can also throw in desire, committment, belief, and finesse, but they can all be compensated for if the team actually has "Bottle". My team, France, lost theirs in the last world cup, and were probably the only side more bereft of bottle than ENgland, but I`d put good money on them getting it back much quicker than ANY potential squad that England send out for the next 10 years.
  • DaveMart
    ravenjet: Owen is not the player he was, but still scores when given an opportunity, instead of missing as Bent does. He has done a great job for us at Man U, and that is a better team than England. Other players like Sturridge need bringing through, but Owen is still available to do a job if Capello was not too blinkered to see.
  • guyfawkesnight
    England manager's job is made near-impossible when we have a tabloid media that is hell-bent on destroying our chances when a football tournament comes by entraping our manager or players to serve their own circulation interest. Remember Sven's fake sheikh episode in 2006? Only English media would�do that. What national interest�did it serve by entraping Sven saying some silly things?�And the so-called�patrotic England football fans buying the newspaper in masses. Almost all good managers (Hoddle and Sven for example)�in the past were hounded out of their job. Even Sir Bobby Robson at one stage almost lost his job due to media pressure. If we carry on with the tabloid media, I don't see how England will ever win a Euro or World Cup.
  • mr phil!!! fank u!! Kstand wish him hav da ritey skill ov other fellas but him dont!!!! ye, Kstand rite yeserday bout how him watch da old england v ireland matchy from 1990 an see da exact same fing!!! ye, da england play betty gainst da holland and da belgie fellas but da ireland matchy scare da Kstand coz nuffinks change!!!! england still fritey ov da ball!! wen did dis happen????????? Kstand hav 2 go bak even furtha 2 find out!! Kstand no fink it dere in da 1970 world cup, so it happen between 1970 and 1990....................
  • rationalobservations
    Much is always written about the many times England are deemed to be at "rock bottom". Much is always blamed upon coaches who "personally fail" to steer England to World Cup victory and absolutely anything less than an England captain grasping the World Cup trophy is considered anything but dire "failure". It is worth noting that several all time records for England FC (and on the international scene) WHERE achieved comparatively recently, although from the hype and carping from some in the media, that appears to have gone un-noticed. From a "mediocre" team and a dire performance in Euro2000, the quiet Swede CREATED the "golden generation" that lost ONLY FIVE competitive games 2001 - 2006, crushed Germany 5 - 1, cruised to top qualifying place in each tournament, won more international points and rose up the FIFA ranks faster than in any other period while acheiving the unique position of reaching 3 consecutive quarter finals only to be defeated by circumstances outside any coach-manager's control. The performance of the "golden generation" before and since the "Sven-Becks" years may indicate the quality of caoching and leadership during that period and the real and unique value of the "Eriksson effect" that was prized so highly by members of the then England squad they threatened to strike in Sven's support and appreciated by the fans so much that they launched a massive "Save Our Sven" campaign to no avail when theFA threw away Eriksson (and with him England's hopes for Euro2008 & W-Cup2010) in the summer of 2006?
  • theothermatt
    So, if I'm reading this right, all England really need to do is try harder? Show a bit commitment? "Die for the shirt", presumably? Surely not, James. The article started promisingly - our single biggest weakness is producing enough footballers who are good enough to cut it at the highest level. So the subsequent meander around the subject of physical exhaustion and commitment (complete with pointless allusion to game won and played nearly half a century ago) is puzzling. Disappointing, in fact. Xavi and Iniesta aren't where they are because they "want it more", they're there because they're much, much better than any player England can call upon. The revolution in values is one that, thankfully, we already see at club level. The men who made many of the players in the current Barca team now work in English football. Young players are now being drilled in footballing skills that were anathema to English coaches until depressingly recent times. There's still a massive structural and cultural change to be effected though: we still have too few amateur coaches and nationwide facilities and, regrettably we still have significant voices such as your espousing the drab old clich�s about heart and commitment. Do English footballers have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement and worth? Oh yes. But that's best addressed by ensuring they are gradually squeezed out of the game by younger, better players. Not just a bit of fist-pumping jingoism.
  • ravenjetbyrne
    owen is well past it,stop digging that hole
  • I couldn't agree with this statement more. I find that in most EPL teams that contain our so called world class player's such as Man City and United, the best players with the exception of Rooney perhaps, are those with foreign nationality. Why is it that we do not have any players who have skils. Our philosophy of pass and move has dried up. We need player's who have the ability and confidence to do some trickery and tak it round opponents. This is what we are lacking majorly. The likes of Gerard, Lampard, Feridnand, Terry etc, the fossilised players, all need to make way for the youth players. It's time we took a gamble on this or we risk being the laughign stock of National Football. I take a look at some of our youth players and they are in a different league to our senior players. Take Jack Wilshere for example, he dominates the midfield even for Arsenal agaisnt Barcelona, he took a stand and made us proud he was English. Ultiamtely- Get rid of the Lampards, Gerards, Terry etc. Bring in the Micah Richards, Keiran Gibbs, Henderson, Rodwell, Albrighton. We need to take a gamble and need to do it now. Or risk further embarassment on the pitch.
  • Ben
    The fatigue excuse is just plain nonsense. �They "work" a couple of hours a day, and then spend the rest of their time playing video games, wasting their cash, trying to sleep with any available totty, and actually sleeping (alone). �I think just about anyone on the planet who does a real job 9-5 or longer would quite happily swap places. � The bottom line is that our game is kick and rush compared to the much more effective style adopted elsewhere, with the current kings at international and club level the Spanish (including Catalans). �They are comfortable on the ball, can control it, and use it well. �No risky passes, keep possession, and gradually run your opponents around until you create or see a gap. �When our players receive the ball, they don't have the same control skills, are not as comfortable, and aren't patient, either misplacing a pretty basic pass or going for the hollywood ambitious option, resulting in�possession�being lost. �Man United could hardly get the ball against Barca after the first 10 minutes, and when they did, they tended to waste it, goal excluded of course, and even resorted to Wimbledon long ball hoofing eventually. � What are the FA technical team doing in the face of all of this I wonder? Since most of the big clubs hardly field any English players - Lampard and Cole at Chelsea, Ferdinand Carrick and Rooney at Man U, Hart and Lescott at City, Wilshere alone at Arsenal - how is it ever going to improve?
  • Kstand likey ur wifey mr phil, she mind Kstand of him mum!!!
  • pjn161
    KStand, me ol` mate. I see , yet again, your posts draw criticism for how theyre delivered rather than their content? Most often, these are visitors who`ve not yet come across your comments and see only the style and ignore the substance. This is a pity... because your points are valid. There is a difference between being eager to pass the ball so you can deny the opposition possession, and hoofing it into empty space or high in the stands because you`re absolutely s**t scared of the prospect of everyone seeing you dont have a clue what to do with it. Instead of wanting the ball because you know exactly what to do with it and where to send it next, most players who wear the England shirt look like they wish they could be as far away from it as possible. While that mentality continues, England will remain 50pence short of a pounds worth of challenge.
  • DaveMart
    Newcastle are good at getting less out of players.
  • jim
    It's well past time to bring in as much of the energy and ambition of youth as possible. It's also time for the grassroots of the game to stop killing off the flair players, the so called luxury players - remember, the ones who can control the ball. The kids with ball skills are still there at the lower levels but they aren't valued, aren't being utilised or guided effectively and consequently disappear from the game.� Other countries look for such talents and bring them through, all the while teaching them to pass the ball and be part of a unit. Here we look for the biggest, strongest kids who can muscle other players off the ball, run pointlessly up and down the pitch all day long, and get all excited if they can hit a dead ball, or knock a few balls in from the wings. Whereas the best teams at club and international level are made up mainly of flair players who've learned to play as a team . . . . Goodbye Terry and most of the rest . . .
  • RedJersey
    Are you saying Bent's two misses - one blatant - was down to tiredness? (inadequate skill). And the two freakishly flukey�Swiss goals? (lack of concentration, over confidence, laziness - take your pick) That said, the team picked not good enough particularly Lampard, Ferdinand and Terry.
  • google-c1ff624e0be7b448dd95e1f934e8a45a
    I agree entirely - I'm glad someone has some common sense. I think you underplay the quality of the opposition in Spain, but your argument stands. Why do we always have to compare with Spain? Spain are good at the moment, but it is easy to forget that they were having the same debate as us a few years ago about underperformance at summer championships. Wake up People - England are not that bad - why are we such self-haters? - we are 6th in Fifa rankings. It is just we can't play well in summer championships. Get real!! AS I have already said, we need to think about reducing the size of the Premier League, getting rid of the Coca Cola Cup and maybe having a winter break.
  • Archie_McPherson
    English players don't need to be "in movement" in the EPL because the better technical non-English team mates do that for them. English players get the tackling midfield posts in Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. The real artists then use the ball to attack and score. Big lumping English defenders means the EPL is exciting. They can't retain the ball, therefore the artists get more time to create and score against pitiful defenders. Exciting to an extent, but ends with a cringeworthy national side who reach a plateau when they get to the major finals.
  • This article is simply a retread of false arguments and wrong ideas. �It ignores the very basic facts that, firstly, comparing International football to club football is pointless as there are perhaps two international teams world that would measure up to Manchester United let alone Barcelona. �Secondly that Barcelona play in a league that is about as competitive (poor) as Scotland's - almost as if the Premier league was made up of Championship teams with the Manchester teams, Chelsea and Arsenal in the mix. In other words, the top four teams would play six truly competitive games per year, as in fact do Barcelona now. �The rest would be played with the three-quarters exertion needed to win. �Let's face it, Barcelona would not be so pretty and clever if they played in the premier league every week! �They are given a huge advantage over English teams if not in the number of games played certainly in the quality of their opposition. �Thirdly, players played in the sixties on pitches of lesser quality but altogether softer and less physically damaging surfaces. �Lastly, the England team should be run in conjunction with (and probably by) the premier league. �The FA have over many years proved themselves to be a group of weak, self-serving losers and unsurprisingly this has filtered down through the organisation to eventually reach the dressing room where it has obviously affected the manager and players. �As in most corporate failures the problem is at the top. �Fifa is corrupt, Uefa is being run on French socialist values - those values which have taken France to the verge of bankruptcy - and the FA is impotent. �Is it not time to reassess International football and to realise that it needs, like the rattly old vehicle it is, that it really either needs to be fixed by someone qualified like the profitable and successful Premier League or even better to be thanked for it's long service and unemotionally scrapped?
  • google-c1ff624e0be7b448dd95e1f934e8a45a
    In opposition to you and James Lawton, I agree with the fatigue thesis, and I'm sure a rigorous look at the statistics for performance at different times of the year, taking into account the quality of the opposition and the importance of the fixture, would back this up. It is clear that England underperform in summer championships, but usually have relatively little trouble qualifying in which the bulk of the games occur in mid season (I admit they lost out for the last Euros - but only after one terrible performance in June, I believe). OK, England may not be world beaters, but they are ranked a good deal higher (6th in Fifa rankings) than Switzerland, so should be doing better. England players are good, at least on a par technically with players from other countries - most of them regularly get to Champions League quarter finals, and the idea that they are just not trying is not credible if one looks at the replay of England games without blinkers on. The demands of the domestic season with its emphasis on training and athleticism at the expense of technique, and the number of games must inevitably put extreme physical demands on the body. You often hear the argument that foreigners who play in England do not have any problems playing for their home countries late in the season, but almost all England players play in England, and so on average the effect will be bigger. Why few England players choose to play for clubs abroad is shame (is it resistance to learning a new language?). Solutions? Possibly reducing the size Premier league, getting rid of the Coca Cola Cup and maybe having a winter break. It is this 'must try harder', we are so rubbish, self-flagellation of the English that is the main problem.
  • RedJersey
    Newcastle, who seemingly only got a total 90 minutes out of Owen over several seasons, would testify to his abilty to�impact.
  • NiceChappie
    "...too much football". Only in England.
  • bdono
    This sounds like "If you build it, they will come".
  • bdono
    Maybe not natural, but that doesn't make it inaccurate.
  • DaveMart
    Which simply shows that one minute of Owen is worth more than 90 minutes of Bent. He has been injured a lot at Man U, but has been a great impact substitute.
  • bdono
    "....deign to wear the England shirt." That sums up the problem in one phrase. Jack Wilshere aside, if these are a sample of the backbone of England one wonders how an empire was once built? Well, by rugby players, obviously.
  • RedJersey
    "Owen would have buried several of the chances which fell to Bent" ... and so would Harry's wife. Bent should be nowhere near an England team; his too many chances needed per goal scored ratio is not good enough�plus the majority of the ones that go in are scuffed.
  • Ben
    Owen would probably have buried those chances, I agree. �However, Owen would have only been on the pitch for a minute before tweaking his hamstring/groin/thigh/ear cartilage and having to limp off.�
  • NiceChappie
    It is almost as if no one dare speak the forbidden truth, namely that England players are simply not good enough. We continue to produce youngsters who are ideal for the headless-chicken freneticism of the Premiership; tough, strong and with plenty of stamina, yet deficient in all those areas of the game which now characterise successful teams elsewhere: intelligence and technical prowess. We've tried so many different types of coaches, passionate�or cerebral,�foreign or domestic, and yet they all seem to fail to "bring out the best " in our homegrown talent. Well perhaps what we saw against Switzerland, in the World Cup and, with a few notable exceptions, over the past 45 years, IS the best we have to offer. The rest of the world knows it...why don't we?
  • RedJersey
    How do you do it Kstandbogzonebadhandle?�Set it out in English first then convert it to that none too convincing puerile cadence lacking pseudo street talk of yours? Natural it is not.
  • it bin likey dis 4 da decadez!!!! kstands da keen student ov da game an him study da ole filums of da england fellas, an Kstand see da same fing agin and agin. dey unflexi likey wood, dey be frighty.............. and dey no respect da manager!!!! da playa use 2 playin 1 way an da 1 positiion 4 club, but den dey go 2 england an da manager tell dem 2 do sumfink else, or he be fella dey no respect likey stevie m or kevin k!!! dey no be da flexi fellas!!! and anotha fing, dems scarey ov da ball!!!! u see it on dem facey going bak decadez!!!! da england fellas iz terrify ov da ball, dey no want him!!!!!
  • wcbluesagain
    Surely it's time to finally move on from the Golden Generation ? Ashley Cole excepted. Gerrard, Lampard, Rio and Terry are all supposed to be "world class" but have never really looked it in an England shirt.
  • Play Owen, we will win..

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