Egypt's opposition calls for one million on streets

AP

People demonstrate in Cairo

AP

People demonstrate in Cairo

A coalition of opposition groups called for a million people to take to Cairo's streets tomorrow to demand the removal of President Hosni Mubarak, the clearest sign yet that a unified leadership was emerging for Egypt's powerful but disparate protest movement.

In an apparent attempt to show change, Mubarak named a new government today. But the lineup dominated by regime stalwarts was greeted with scorn by protesters camped out for the fourth day in the capital's central Tahrir, of Liberation, Square.

"We don't want life to go back to normal until Mubarak leaves," Israa Abdel-Fattah, a founder of the April 6 Group, a movement of young people pushing for democratic reform.

If Egypt's opposition groups are able to truly coalesce — far from a certainty for movements that include students, online activists, old-school opposition politicians and the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood — it could sustain and amplify the momentum of the week-old protests.

A unified front could also provide a focal point for American and other world leaders who are issuing demands for an orderly transition to a democratic system, saying Mubarak's limited concessions are insufficient.

Banks, schools and the stock market in Cairo were shut for the second working day. Long queues formed outside bakeries as people tried to replenish their stores of bread, the main source of sustenance for most Egyptians.

Barbed wire sealed off the main road to Tahrir Square but thousands of people gathered.

Cairo's international airport was a scene of chaos and confusion as thousands of foreigners sought to flee the unrest in Egypt and countries around the world scrambled to send in planes to fly their citizens out.

The official death toll from the crisis stood at 97, with thousands injured, but reports from witnesses across the country indicated the actual toll was far higher.

The White House said President Barack Obama called Britain, Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia over the weekend in the US to convey his administration's desire for restraint and an orderly transition to a more responsive government.

European Union foreign ministers urged a peaceful transition to democracy and warned against a takeover by religious militants.

In Cairo, the coalition of groups, dominated by youth movements but including the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, were discussing the possibility of making prominent reform advocate Mohamed ElBaradei spokesman for the protesters, members said.

Spokesmen for several of the groups said some 30 to 40 representatives were meeting to discuss the future of Egypt after Mubarak, whom they blame for widespread poverty, inflation and official indifference and brutality during his 30 years in power.

They said the coalition wants the march from Tahrir Square to force Mubarak, 82, to step down by Friday.

The Muslim Brotherhood, which wants to form an Islamist state in the Arab world's largest nation, said it would not take a leadership role in the opposition coalition. Western governments and many secular Egyptians have expressed fears about a significant Brotherhood role in Egyptian politics.

"We don't want to harm this revolution," Mohamed Mahdi Akef, a former leader of the group, said.

ElBaradei, a pro-democracy advocate and former head of the UN nuclear watchdog, invigorated anti-Mubarak feeling with his return to Egypt last year, but the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood remains Egypt's largest opposition movement.

Its support base comes in large part from its elaborate network of social, medical and education services. It made a suprisingly strong showing in parliamentary elections in 2005, winning 20 per cent of the legislature's seats, but it failed to win a single seat in elections held late last year and are widely throught to have been rigged in favour of Mubarak's ruling party.

Mubarak, a former air force commander in office since 1981, is known to have zero tolerance for Islamists in politics, whether they are militants or moderates, and it remains highly unlikely that he would allow his government to engage in any dialogue with the Brotherhood.

Rashad al-Bayoumi, the Brotherhood's deputy leader, said that, "What we hope to reach in today's meeting is formulating a united strategy to remove Mubarak ... "What we have here is the Egyptian people's biggest chance to affect regime change."

Al-Bayoumi told The Associated Press that a joint committee would issue demands that, besides Mubarak's ouster, include the release of political prisoners, setting up a transitional government to run the country until free and fair elections are held and prosecuting individuals thought to be responsible for the killing of protesters.

A leading Muslim Brotherhood official, Saad el-Katatni, told The Associated Press that "we didn't deputize anybody because we don't want anybody to be solely in charge," but if the coalition agrees on naming ElBaradei, "this is fine."

The meeting of opposition groups excluded the legal opposition parties that had been allowed to operate under Mubarak, said Abouel Elaa Maadi, a representative of al-Wasat, a moderate breakaway faction of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Meanwhile, Mubarak swore in a new cabinet whose most significant change was the replacement of the interior minister, Habib el-Adly, who heads internal security forces and is widely despised by protesters for the brutality some officers have shown. A retired police general, Mahmoud Wagdi, will replace him.

The new line-up of cabinet ministers announced on state television included stalwarts of Mubarak's regime but purged several of the prominent businessmen who held economic posts and have engineered the country's economic liberalisation policies the past decades. Many Egyptians resented to influence of millionaire politician-moguls, who were close allies of the president's son, Gamal Mubarak, long thought to be the heir apparent.

In the new cabinet, Mubarak retained his long-serving defence minister, Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, and Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit.

The longest-serving cabinet minister, Culture Minister Farouq Hosni, was replaced by Gaber Asfour, a widely respected literary figure.

Egypt's most famous archaeologist, Zahi Hawass, was named state minister for antiquities, a new post.

State newspapers today published a sternly worded letter from Mubarak to his new prime minister, Shafiq, ordering him to move swiftly to introduce political, legislative and constitutional reforms.

Mostafa el-Naggar, a member of the ELBaradei-backing Association for Change, said he recognised no decision Mubarak took after January 25, the first day of Egyptian protests emboldened by Tunisians' expulsion of their longtime president earlier in the month.

"This is a failed attempt," said el-Naggar. "He is done with."

The coalition also called for a general strike today, although much of Cairo remained shut down anyway, with government officers and private businesses closed.

Police and rubbish collectors appeared on the streets of Cairo and subway stations reopened after soldiers and neighbourhood watch groups armed with clubs and machetes kept the peace in many districts overnight.

One group fended off a band of robbers who tried to break in and steal antiquities from the warehouse of the famed Karnak Temple on the east bank of the Nile in the ancient southern city of Luxor.

The locals clashed with the attackers who arrived at the temple carrying guns and knives in two cars around 3am, and arrested five of them, said neighborhood protection committee member Ezz el-Shafei.

The locals handed the five men to the army, which has posted a handful of soldiers at the vast temple's entrance.

In Cairo, soldiers detained about 50 men trying to break into the Egyptian National Museum in a fresh attempt to loot some of the country's archaeological treasures, the military said.

  • nuzenite
    Furthermore, tell me exactly what the Middle East and North Africa has contributed to the 21st Century or any other for hundreds of years in terms of science and technology and the arts. That's why I am proud. The only contribution from the sandpit countries was OIL; something they didn't know they had, they didn't know what it was, didn't know where it was, had invented nothing it could be used for and had not a clue how to get it out of the ground. Bush was right about one thing only, the sooner the West finds an alternative to oil as a fuel the better.
  • @ ricardo_lion "Wrong? Attacking a country that declared war vowing to destroy you? They were blocking the navigation of the Israeli ships in the straight of Tiran. Noghint worng here. I mean, on the Israeli side. Can't say the same about your Britain." There was an armistice between the two countries and to the best of my knowledge Egypt had not violated this. So provide the evidence of the armistice violation that justified the invasion please. BTW, I'm not British, this is the internet remember, we can post from anywhere, well accept Egypt, and your government thinks that's okay too. I take it you support Mubarak seen as your government does and it can do no worng.
  • nuzenite
    Iraq will go back to a dictatorship within ten years. Freedom, democracy is not these people's ways.
  • nuzenite
    I think the muslim dice is loaded in North Africa and the Middle East. The difference is the West doesn't take their religious nutters seriously whilst the East do take their religious nutters seriously.
  • ricardo_lion
    I am not. I was for the war to depose Saddam and his mafia. The Iraquis should have thanked the US, Britain + 40 coalition forces, but instead they turned against their liberators (ungrateful) and... themselves, of course, as Arabs always do.
  • This is what it says on wikipedia: "Three months after Egypt's nationalization of the Suez Canal company, a secret meeting took place at S�vres, outside Paris. Britain and France enlisted Israeli support for an alliance against Egypt. The parties agreed that Israel would invade the Sinai. Britain and France would then intervene, purportedly to separate the warring Israeli and Egyptian forces, instructing both to withdraw to a distance of 16 kilometres from either side of the canal. The British and French would then argue that Egypt's control of such an important route was too tenuous, and that it needed be placed under Anglo-French management." Doesn't sound very righteous to me, nor does it match your view of events. It's dangerous to think your country can do no wrong. If we all adopted the same attitude where would that leave us?
  • nuzenite
    You cannot have democracy AND true Islam, it is one or the other, so in that respect as far as freedom is concerned Islam is a cancer. If racism is about discrimination then that is normal human behavior, don't fool yourself. How can you be a proud race and yet treated like animals for thirty years. Logic is obviously not your forte, you embarrass yourself.
  • mithras1
    Muslims have similar primitive, illogical feelings about Saudi Arabia and Mecca. It's your similarities that cause all of the problems.
  • ricardo_lion
    Jews / Israelis don't think this way. Life is sacred. No "sweet" way of dying. Muslim Arab mothers go on tv and claim to be happy because their sons died as "martyrs", as suicide / homiced terrorists, killing innocents. Only Arab Muslim mothers do that. And they, the Muslim terrorists, have said many times that they love death over life, that the Jews are weak because they (us) prize life... Different kind of people. The people that kill their own daughters and sisters for "honour".
  • ricardo_lion
    Wrong? Attacking a country that declared war vowing to destroy you? They were blocking the navigation of the Israeli ships in the straight of Tiran. Noghint worng here. I mean, on the Israeli side. Can't say the same about your Britain. Israel can do no wrong - sorrounded by Arab bloody dictatorships, medieval kingdomos and jihadi groups bent on its desctruction.
  • ricardo_lion
    Egypt declared war, attacked on several occasions - Israel, not Britain. Israel had every right.
  • ricardo_lion
    No, of course not. If I would condemn Israel for attacking Egypt in 1956? Israel had every right. Egypt declared war, attacked on several occasions and was threatening Israel again.
  • You can't exactly blame people that post here for all those wars. Not all the people that post here are British neither as you should know. BTW, Northern Ireland is not far away from Britian. As for the UK's last adventure in Egypt, which you rightly condemn, I was wondering if you would like to spare a moment to condemn their allies in that event too? In the interest of fairness and balance of course. Thanks.
  • wikikettle
    nuzenite - you say there is nothing wrong in being a racist ! You compare the Abrahamic religion to a cancer ! You say you are proud of your 'race' ? You say Arabs arn't proud of theirs because they are demonstrating ! the more you speak the more you embarrass yourself.
  • nuzenite
    America and Israel is crapping itself, they are about to lose an ally.
  • One million is not enough. I was one of one million (or two million?) demonstrators against the attack on Iraq. They need more and I hope they will get more. It is unlikely that the USA triggered these protests. But they are having a hand in what Mubarak is doing. They don't want him to flee as then there would be a power vacuum.
  • bilsterino
    Plan Dalit - why not read some more history but try not to be so selective.
  • bilsterino
    No point after I said I was not a Christian? Interesting response. Do the IDF not kill Arabs Ricardo or do they not count? Is violence only bad when it's directed against Israelis. In your posts you don't ever seem to be able to recognise that violent acts perpetrated by Israel are just as appaling as any other violent act. That is a universal truth. Ricardo Lion - I suspect you have been inspired by Richard The Lionheart - A prominant Christian Zionist from British history? Europeans have been trying to get a hold of 'Zion' for quite a long time and lets face it Israel is basically a western country and virtually a part of the EU. If you dont like us then why not distance youselves from the west and us horrible Europeans. Europe has a very bloody history, which you no doubt know. Why take aid from us and our descendents in the US if we are so immoral?
  • bilsterino
    I kinda think you're avoiding the question. My name is of jewish origin - ok, if I accept that, what is your point? Ok how about the atrocities that the Irgun and Stern Gangs carried out? How about the Zionist movement planning to displace Arabs from the region as early as the turn of the 20th Century. You see I can grasp history but I still can't find any justification for one group of people murdering another. That goes both ways. You see I also recognise Arab violence as well and it's no better or worse. You imply you know a bit about Britains history but you don't mention Balfour. Without him would there even be an Israeli state?
  • bilsterino
    Ricardo, I agree with you regarding the terrorist act carried out by the British Government. But as i said this does not particularly justify the actions of Israel. By the way I though there was no such country as Palestine. My name is derived from Norse and I'm not a christian. Phalangists in Lebanon - Shabra and Chatila - looking forward to you justification. I could go on.
  • thorkellthetall
    Ricardo - How can you condemn the UK and US for attacking Iraq when your beloved Israeli state was in league with them? Your bigotry blinds you to the truth.
  • mithras1
    The median age in Egypt is 24. Half of Egypt's population of 80 million exists on a per capita income of �1.30 a day. Egypt has been ruled under Emergency Law since 1967 "except for an 18-month break in 1980s. Under the law, police powers are extended, constitutional rights suspended and censorship is legalized. The law sharply circumscribes any non-governmental political activity: street demonstrations, non-approved political organizations, and unregistered financial donations are formally banned. Some 17,000 people are detained under the law, and estimates of political prisoners run as high as 30,000. Under that "state of emergency", the government has the right to imprison individuals for any period of time, and for virtually no reason, thus keeping them in prisons without trials for any period." Mubarak has been in power for 30 years. This is the regime that the U.K. and the U.S. have supported -- in their desire to run protection for Israel -- all the while clamouring for "democracy" in Middle-East countries that they do not like. (Most notable exception: the repressive regime in Saudi Arabia. No calls for democracy there.) Is it any wonder that Egyptians are protesting? Is it any wonder that the protesters will not be looking towards the UK or the U.S. for leadership or guidance after Mubarak is ousted? Think Iran, the despotic, UK and U.S.-supported Shah, and the Islamic revolution that followed the Shah's ouster and you'll see the path that we have set Egypt on. "Those who cannot remember the past are bound to repeat it" ~ George Santayana
  • wikikettle
    nuzenite - that was very unfair and racist. Hitler would be proud of you. To stereotype a whole group of North Africans, Mid East and Egypt as religious zelots not able to or allowed to have self determination, are the kind of ideas that led to the Houlacaust.
  • thorkellthetall
    Ricardo - come to think of it, Israel was also involved in the conspiracy to attack Egypt during the Suez crisis of 1956, which you also condemn. You should read more history before you go off on these rants.
  • mithras1
    Who better than Blair, serial liar and un-indicted co-conspirator in the completely unnecessary invasion and destruction of Iraq, to speak on 'stability and order' in the Middle-East? Given the mess that Britain has made of the Middle-East, both recently and historically, British politicians should have the decency to STFU.
  • wikikettle
    Egypt is very important to Europe and America. 8% of all sea trade goes through it and Arab oil needed in the west would cost more if the Suez canal was closed. Thats why the west supports Egyptian Generals and why a new democratic Egypt is a threat to the west. As usual short term greed and thurst for petrol, blinded us to the fact that the Arab people would one day wake up and say - oi mate whats goin on...
  • MicheleDerry
    Tony Blair calls for a ?peaceful transition? in Egypt. Why didn?t he take this approach to Iraq? Instead, he simply blew Iraq to smithereens, with the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives. The hypocrisy leads one to suspect that Blair is a moral lunatic. But maybe there?s a simpler explanation. Mubarak is one of Tony?s best friends and a regular holiday host to the Blair family.
  • Alf
    Why cannot Blair, a war criminal, American poodle and liar keep his blooded hands out of this affair? Does he hope to make even more millions to buy more houses for his brood. All in the name of his god!
  • Why all that fear from Islam? You've grown up hating Islam. You've been taught to hate islam and muslims from your childhood. Where are you from killing civilians around the world and invading other countries? in Iraq, afaghanistan, Pakistan, Palastine, ...etc. you are the origin of terror in the world. muslims live in all countries in good relations with others regardless of their religon. You hate verything and even yourselves. Islam calls for peace among all people whatever their religion.
  • corporeal4now
    USA is full of Christian zealots, democracy usually works there, when there's no cheating.
  • thebestwecando
    Blair calling for 'the right type of change' - says it all really. The people of Egypt are very brave and are hopefully an inspiration to many around the world, but when the anger has faded it is impossible to see beyond the reality that says the West simply will not allow Mubarak to be replaced by anything more extreme than Mubarak lite (ie what they have now but with one or two PR concessions). I suspect there will be a change in the tone of the media coverage too if it gets to the stage where they elect anyone representative of the Egyptian people and willing to put Egypt first. As I'm sure many of the courageous individuals involved realise people worldwide, though in greatly different situations and circumstances, have the same common enemy.
  • wikikettle
    Ricardo - you have lots of anger and hate in your heart for many people. There must be lots of unhappiness in your life and I wish you will let some love in to ease the pain. Life is very short and heaven is here on earth in my humble opinion - live and let live.
  • nuzenite
    Well seeing is believing, it is a fair generalization there are always exceptions. Nothing wrong with racism as long as one doesn't preach or incite hatred, I am proud of my race are Arabs proud of theirs? Seems not if they are revolting. The problem with that part of the world is that Islam permeates through it like a cancer and that is why they will never have true democracy.
  • tom888888
    ?Israel? ready to accept Mubarak. His two sons are already in London. More of Hosni Mubarak?s sons have fled Egypt with their families, reportedly taking with them gold and foreign currency. This despised dictator is now being backed by Apartheid Israel. Even more reason for the Arabs to ensure this Zionist puppet / Traitor is not in charge of a Muslim Country.
  • wikikettle
    ricardo - I am affraid you have swallowed the old lie 'how sweet and glorious it is to die for ones country 'dulce et decorum est' look it up
  • writerman
    Blair is, in essence, the true face of western democracy. Behind the rhetoric about human rights, freedom of speech, democracy... there is something of far more importance. Blair calls it 'stability', or 'interests.' What does this mean? It means that the interests of a tiny ruling elite, their control of societies wealth, their monopoly of power, are best served by the stability and dictatorship. This is why Egypt is so important. The Egyptian dictatorship has been fully integrated into the West, it is part of the West, and we are part of it. Mubarak and Blair are part of the same Mafia family. And it's important to understand the consequences of this 'special relationship.'
  • nuzenite
    Not much oil in Egypt, that is why.
  • nuzenite
    You hate yourselves; look to most muslim countries and see how they let their own people govern them, treated worse than animals.
  • ricardo_lion
    Because he was just a Jew. We do that all the time, we crucify each other.
  • writerman
    It would be of enormous symbolic value if a million people, with women at the front, began a march to liberate the state controlled television centre and introduce democracy and freedom of speech by force of numbers. If the west is really interested in human rights and freedom of speech it would be difficult to critize such a people's movement. Also the value of sending women in the front line would be substantial. Also it would force the young soldiers to chose, to take sides. It would force the issue. Would the soldiers really open fire on their own sisters? What would be the consequences if they did? Would it be the end, or only the beginning? A revolution needs symbols and momentum. Standing still isn't an option. The entire regime needs to be confronted and toppled, not just one man, Mubarak. What one doesn't want is the Americans and the Generals chosing a new dictator, new Mubarak. The entire structure of dictatorship has to be dismantled and destroyed. Democracy under a military dictatorship isn't possible.
  • Nice to see that greasy, oily b*stard BLiar trying to worm his way into this. Doubtless he'll later claim to have instigated a democratic coup-d'etat in Egypt, when really it will have been the work of the Egyptians themselves (if the likely event occurs). Mubarak's reign is dead. The US, UK and EU should not let it fester and should openly support the democratic movement that opposes this autocratic overlord. Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood will present a problem. But in a coalition, it will have a much less profound effect on Egypt. So, Obama ,stop worrying and make the phone call.
  • ricardo_lion
    The wars against Korea, Egypt, Argentina, Northern Ireland, Iraq (twice!), Afghanistan: True. Plan Dalit: LIE
  • ricardo_lion
    Lie.
  • ricardo_lion
    I only hate British hypocrites attacking Israel for defending against next door enemies while you go to war against far away countries like Korea, Egypt, Iraq, Argentina, Northern Ireland, Afghanistan.... Some unhappiness, a lot of happiness too. Thank you for your concern. "Love": Is that how you kill people in Argentina, Northern Ireland, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc? With "love"?
  • ricardo_lion
    The IDF kill a lot of Arabs when they attack. Arabs kill even more Arabs. Britain a lot more, in far away countries that never attacked - Egypt, Iraq, Iraq again... Britain is also killing a lot of Muslims in far away Afghanistan. No violent acts perpetrated by Israel, just defending against Jihadists. Don't give a xxxx about Richard the Lionheart. European Christians want Zion, Muslims want Zion, everybody wants the Jewish land, half the world is obsessed with us Jews. Christianism was born from Judaism and Islam was, well, how can I put it... Copied? (As if it is possible...). Thank God (the one from the Bible, the One Jesus called "Father") Israel is a western country, meaning, human rights and democracy for all. Not part of EU, quite the opposite, the EU is usually siding with the Arabs, in spite of being "Chrisitan" (poor Jesus...). You are immoral and Israel doesn't take any aid from you, British. You are mistaken. Go kill some more men holding old Kalashnikovs, women and children in Afghanistan. You are wasting your time here.
  • Tarik_Toulan
    There has been a spark, the revolution wheel has run, and will not stop until the old regime is crushed. Defiant Egyptians, who have passed the barrier of fear, will hold their ground.
  • nuzenite
    Sorry to say that democracy will never work in countries with such big populations so full of religious zealots and that is why they inevitably have dictatorship type regimes. Democracy can only work in countries where there is toleration. In general I do not see this in North Africa or the Middle East. I wish the Egyptians well in their struggle but the freedom we Westerners enjoy is not really in their blood.
  • ricardo_lion
    What is my point? No point really, not after you said you are not a Christian. Irgun and Stern were defending the Jews against Arab terrorism in British Palestine. Muslim Arab terrorists, you know. No plan do displace Arabs from Palestine. Or you think Jews / Israelis are so incompetent that in spite of this "ethnic cleansing" (lie) today there are one million Arabs in Israel? REAL ethnic cleansing: Of the 800,000 Jews from the Arab world after 1950. Those Jews arrrived in most of those lands before the Arabs, invaders from Arabia. But don't you worry, Steve. Those Jews are not living in refugee camps anymore and don't blow themselves up. One group of people murdering another: Arabs murdering Arabs and "infidels", British murdering Argentinians, Irish, Egyptians, iraquis, Afghans.... I know of Lord Balfour and I am thankful to him.
  • I think now America is a parasite, oil from Saudu Arabia &Iraq; now , one tank of oil costs 100$, stability of Israel from Egypt &for; that it pays 1.5 billion $ per year, Economy from Israel from Jewish>>>>>>>>>>>>so, where is the civilization of America?
  • Hector_Ing
    Well, it?s cloud-cuckoo time again. Both Hillary Clinton and William Hague have said they hope that Egypt will ?transition? peacefully to a more democratic form of government. It may well be that Egypt will ?transition? to a radical form of Islamist rule ? and this may also happen in Tunisia. There is the distinct probability that the United States was, to some extent, involved in triggering the unrest in Egypt. And, of course, the United Kingdom has been ?entertaining? Mr Rached Ghannouchi, the Islamic fundamentalist, who recently returned to a hero?s welcome in Tunisia. We deserve what we get from this mess: and Bliar is mediating ? God help us. I can?t think of the right adjective to describe the r�le of the UK and the US in this nonsense: "cynical" doesn?t seem crazy enough.
  • obidiah_slope
    Why did you crucify him then dude?
  • bilsterino
    Ricardo! Deir Yassin? Plan Dalit? Can you explain please Ricardo. Without reminding us of Britaind colonial history. Many of us know the history already. However the fact that Britain has a brutal past is not really an argument for the brutalities meted out by the government of Eretz Israel. Discuss.
  • tom888888
    I don't need to go to Israel the country is an apartheid state, and has the worst record on human rights. Just ask the Israeli UN judge who condemned Israel for Murder and Massacres. Your're right about some going to American loved Saudi Arabia.
  • Ancient Egypt is important to all of us. It is a heritage which belongs to everybody in the world. What Mr Blair and the Western media is conveniently forgetting to tell the people in developing countries is that democracy is not worth the price the people of those regions will end up paying for it: At the price of loss of their history. Democracy is not worth at the price of a loss to the Egypt's ancient treasures. I hope the Egyptians are wise enough to see this truth. Of course, when I was in Egypt, I saw quite a few gratifies and damage on most of these marvellous monuments. Some were carried out by the visiting tourists. Some were written by the fundamentalists. Mr. El Baradei, now the leader of the so called opposition; are you going to stop these sacrileges against the world treasures? or are you just after your residency in the corridors of power?
  • mithras1
    South Africa was still part of the British Commonwealth. However, that little flag had as much meaning for the Boers as the Star of David has for Israel's Arab citizens. You were, as expected, entirely wrong.
  • mithras1
    Apartheid was the invention of the Boers, South African immigrants who were predominantly Dutch in origin. Your knowledge of South Africa is as reliable as your knowledge of Israel.
  • we have to change the system
  • alinnloval
    Whether it was the Tunisian inspiration or not; the Egyptians, men, women, children, professionals, jobless and all, took to the streets to demand for a break from their current condition. Surely a bravery that goes beyond any comprehension, judging from the well known heavy handed and brutal security forces that surrounded them, and an act that is worthy of all praises and sympathy. But it wasn't an ideal dream of democracy that took them out of their homes first, was it? They have been oppressed and repressed for decades anyway. The things that possessed them beyond any inspiration and led them into the streets, enmass, are poverty, certain freedom and hope i.e. out of the claws of the corrupted autocratic ruler and the whole jing-bang, first and foremost. So, US, UK, France, Germany etc., the Egyptians have put their lifes at stake for it, don't put their courageous acts for nothing by clinging to your whitewashed old regime a.k.a ally. The probable new government may or may not be pallatable to you, but let the people decide whom they want and not you. Help them get rid of the autocratic regime first. Enough of your hypocritical paddling of democracy when you have been backing tyrants and autocratic rulers within the region all the while.
  • Why does this news website insult its readers by allowing comments from a man who, if he was not protected by evil powers, would be publicly disgraced for the 100's of thousands of deaths he is in part responsible for? Do you think readers of this site are interested in the slightest in what this liar says?
  • ricardo_lion
    Yes, that's right, I knew it has something to do with Britain. Arab CITIZENS. Arabs in Israel are citizens, but in the Arab world, in the Arab bloody dictatorships and medieval kingdoms they are not. You are entirely wrong, sorry.
  • I think now America is a parasite , oil from Saudi Arabia & now ,one oil tank costs 100 $, policy & peace from Egypt & for that it pays billions of money to achieve that, Economy from Jewish (Israel Businessmen)>>>>>So, where is the civilization of America?
  • who wants to listen to this guy .I hope people of Egypt becomes inspiration to people of many countries .specially the countries ,where corruption is bloating like anything :( mother earth bless people of egypt .
  • Screamingcat
    I clicked on this page to read about Egypt...not to see a video of that possessed, lying **** spewing nonsense about a region that he helped set alight. Who wants to hear about his brand of "change?"
  • leeblued
    One of the worst things I have seen ( apart of course from the terrible way the people of Egypt have been treated) is the disgusting media hype from the BBC & CNN. Watching the two Anchors from CNN discussing the "Ongoing situation" it was nearly pornographic , I really thought the two of them were going to have an orgasm live on screen ! this was also valid for the BBC's Aaron Hesselhurst reporting on the economic situation in Egypt , his eyes were popping,his breathe was getting real heavy , Nick Gowing was looking at him with very a worried look ( so was I ). As for Wilcox who the BBC has flown out to Cairo to assist Lyse Doucet , I would say watch out Lyse , Wilcox was looking decidedly hot and flustered ! What are these people taking ? It really is sad the extreme superficial sensationalism that these so called journalists whip up ! as if there isn't enough genuine emotional trauma from people who cannot get there money to buy what little food ther is !
  • Junkets
    The army has said they will not attack the people. Is this because the top brass of the army fears it's own rank and file, or is it because the army is supplied by expensive gadgets from America, and they are doing what the Americans want them to do. If it's the latter, the people of Egypt had better beware, because the Americans will only be doing it to contain the Revolution. That's why that arsehole Blair wants stability. Revolutions do not provide a good climate for investment, but they are wonderful educational tool for the people.
  • ricardo_lion
    No, your name, Steven, is Jewish. "Justify the actions of Israel": Defending against next door bloody dictatorships, medieval kingdoms and jihadist groups taht declared war doesn't need justification. Sabra and Shatila? Arabs killing Arabs, as they do everyday, all over the Arab world. Phalangists? Christians.
  • CampbellH
    I wanted to read about the wonderful Egyptian people and I see the face of that thing! Remove it please!
  • ricardo_lion
    Steve = Jewish name. You are not one of those "Chrisitans", are you? (poor Jesus....). Yes, Deir Yassin. Good that you can name one Jewish terror act. But his was in revenge for the various Muslim Arab terrorist acts against the Jews in their country, Palestine. Britain has a brutal past? A brutal present. You killed so many civilians in Northern Ireland. You went to war over stolen Argentinian islands. You attacked Egypt in 1956, Korea before that. You attacked, invaded and destroyed Iraq twice. How many men, women and children killed by your professional soldiers and Gurkha mercenaries in Afghanistan TODAY? Such hypocrisy... No brutalities in Israel, fighting for survival against next door Arab bloody dictatorships, medieval kingdoms and jihadi groups.
  • ricardo_lion
    I was joking. Many, many Muslim tourists (and Christians, and others) in Israel everyday, but.... No Jews in Saudi Arabia! And no "infidels" in Mecca, where they worship that stone. You are not really comparing Judaism to Islam, I hope.
  • TIger2011
    Brothers, I dont think Iam expert in political but i know one thing that Egyptian peoples have votes more than the vote of hussni mubark so the Egyptian peoples who only only will decide their future
  • Here's the real truth about the Egyptian uprising! Under President Mubarak of Egypt, he was not really close with the state of Israel and HE was playing it both ways! This is why under former President George W. Bush and NOW President Obama wants regime change because They want a regime that is close with the United States and Israel. But here is the sticking point, there are too many poor people in Egypt and they don't want to compromise with money going to thr top! This is a foreboding for the conservative movement in the United States who still want the wealthy tax breaks and a refusal to look for alternative energy whose policies have ruled the United States the past 30 years!
  • ricardo_lion
    Israel is holy land, the land of the Bible, the land Jesus. You'd better not polute the land, don't go there.
  • ricardo_lion
    Christian European Dutch, Christian European English, whatever. There was a little British flag on SA's apartheid era flag, remember? Can you explain that?
  • ricardo_lion
    Israel ready to accept Mubarak?? Says who? Normaly Muslim dictators go to Arabia, where Islam was invented. Idi Amin Dada, Ben Ali, .... Apartheid? No apartheid in Israel. You shouldn't mention apartheid in a British newspaper, you know. Apartheid was a British invention and SA a British creation. Remember the little British flag on SA's apartheid era flag? British, not Israeli. In Israel everybody has rights, including the 20% Arab minority, who doesn't enjoy rights in the Arab world. You don't know what you are talking about, you have never been to Israel. Forget Israel, not the issue here. You are just obsessed with everything Jewish / Israel.
  • CampbellH
    Our only claim to being superior to the Egyptians is that the most evil amongst us can somehow make himself out to be utterly angelic. And of course, he truly believes it. It's The Method. Hmm, seemed to have found the essence of Western superiority here.
  • mithras1
    Why do you think they are rioting? Because Mubarak, while lining his own pockets with U.S. aid, has done nothing to provide life support systems for the Egyptian masses. Half of Egypt's population of 80 million people is reported to have per capita income of less than �1.30 a day.
  • XKRAJ
    What about the life support systems for these masses of protesters? You know, toilets food and water!

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