There are several truths about the ritual of the Friday night drink.

Who needs glamour, when you've got this view. Photo:Jeff Herbert.

They’ll never make you healthy or help you stick to your holiday or household budget, you’ll always stay later than you say you will and you’ll never, ever, just have one.

And if you’re not among those lucky handful of people whose employer wheels out a trolley of drinks at 5pm every Friday afternoon, then you’ll join the thirsty pilgrimage of office workers making a beeline to the nearest local for a “quiet” drink to kiss the week goodbye. Unless that is, you live in Sydney.

The SMH reports that many harbour city CBD workers have become just a little too good for that lately, with four of the oldest and most reliable post-work drinking holes facing financial ruin after being trumped by the “lure” of glamorous bars. 

Peter Walker, a partner with accounting firm Ferrier Hodgson, said the Bligh Bar, the Brooklyn Hotel on George Street, The Pavilion Hotel on George Street and the Ice Bar at Circular Quay have all faced a steady decline in drinkers since the city’s glitzy bar boom and were without the capital required “to adequately compete”.

Capacity is another sticking point and with 20 bars and enough elbow room for up to 4900 drinkers it would be more appropriate to label The Ivy on George Street, an entertainment complex. 

But is that really what we’re looking for on a Friday night after work? What happened to the comforting nod from familiar and friendly bar staff when you walk through the door and actually being able to hear the person you’re talking to? 

Bigger doesn’t always make something better, so here’s ten reasons why pubs will always win in terms of atmosphere and comfort at the end of a hectic working week.  Add yours below:

1. Drinks are cheaper

2. You can be noisy and don’t have to share your conversation with everyone in the room

3. You can relax; you don’t have to dress up or feel like an idiot if you’re not dressed up

4. You can play pool

5. The people behind the bar are paid to actually pour you a drink, not just look good

6. The chips are better and the bar snacks are less fussy

7. You can sit down; there are adequate chairs and tables and that means you don’t have to stand up all night

8. You can make a quick and easier escape, pubs generally have more than one door

9. You can smoke out the front, there’s no winding and narrow little staircase to navigate

10. You can sit outside; there are few things better than a beer garden on a sunny afternoon

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    • acotrel says:

      05:59am | 19/11/10

      There is only one pub out of five in Benalla which has a reasonable atmosphere, decent food, and decent piped music!  The rest are an absolute disgrace.  If you want to get really depressed, come up here and do a pub crawl, through the disgusting public bars of the other four!! The fact that some of the locals love these bear pits is a sign of an endemic sickness amongst them!

    • Jim says:

      08:14am | 19/11/10

      Oh acotrel…if you talk in real life like you write in these forums, I can only imagine the reception you get when you walk into a pub!!

    • Jim says:

      06:25am | 19/11/10

      I used to go to The Clock Hotel on Crown St religously in the late 80’s. It was a nightly event…a few beers, a good pub meal, few games of pool, trying to work out how that new-fangled video juke box worked. The girls behind the bar were fun and would share a joke…it was a great place, The Coyote Ugly of Sydney before the movie was even thought of. I moved out of Sydney for a number of years, but a bunch of us made the trip there in the late 90’s for a concert.

      “Come to the Clock,” I say, “it’s the best pub in Sydney.” So we get there and it had changed to a BAR!!!! The pool tables, once holding pride of place at the main bar, had been whittled down in numbers and moved to a back room. There were pokies. The pub menu blackboard had been replaced with fancy menus…gone was the 1.5kg serving of spag bol that you could never finish, in was the herb crusted salmon on carrot puree. There was a coffee lounge….a COFFEE LOUNGE! In a pub! All the girls were tarted up like an audition for the Price Is Right - 10 years before that the only effort required was a bit of deoderant and some colgate work. And the bar staff…gone were the girls; I asked some well manicured young lad named ‘Bruce’ for a beer and he looked at me as if I was the biggest bogan ever.

      Yes Lucy, pubs >>> bars.

    • Macca says:

      07:23am | 19/11/10

      Don’t worry Jim, there’s plenty of other pubs in Surrey Hills that meet the old pub requirements. The whole inner city suburb of pubs didn’t all turn into The Dolphin, The White Horse or The Clock. Just don’t head in on a saturday night. Surrey Hills is much better on a Sunday or for a cheeky Late-morning / Lunch Beers before a day at the cricket. 10am Pub crawl from Central to the SCG on Test Match day, excellent, bring on the Ashes!

    • Aitch B says:

      07:53am | 19/11/10

      As a Melbournite my favourite pub in Sydney is the Mercantile in The Rocks. A few pints of Guiness watching the herds stroll through the market late on a Sunday morning is a great way to get stuck into the day!

      Not exactly Surry Hills or Paddo, though.

      Decades ago I used to drop into the Five Ways in Paddo….. is it still there and is it still a pub?

    • Jim says:

      08:23am | 19/11/10

      I once stumbled into a pub with a few mates when we were 19…it was in Ultimo somewhere. Couldn’t tell you the name of it. All the other drinkers were at least in their 60’s, and we all intuitively knew that if we played up in there any one of those old guys would be able to rip our arms off! We beat a hasty exit.
      The Oxford in Drummoyne became a favourite after a while as it was a 2 min walk from my place. Not sure what it’s like now though.

    • Billie says:

      09:19am | 19/11/10

      It wasn’t the Grosvenor, was it?

    • SM says:

      10:00am | 19/11/10

      @Aitch B

      that would be the Royal Hotel, and yes it’s still there

    • S.L says:

      10:25am | 19/11/10

      I had a mate that used to live down the road from the Beauchamp hotel on Oxford street. In the early 80s it was the straight pub with the Albany across the road for the gays. Went in there no so long ago and yes found it’s customers are now the same as all the others on Oxford street. We used to drink at the Taxi Club too but everyone knows about that place so you already know what to expect.

    • Aitch B says:

      10:45am | 19/11/10

      @SM

      Thanks for that.

      I used to go there with the actor Bill Hunter when he was briefly my brother in law and drink ‘black and tans’ for hours. He only ever referred to it as the ‘Five Ways’ - obviously because of the intersection it stands on - and I never bothered to look up to see the pub’s actual name.

      We also used to drink at the Gladstone in Willian Street but that one’s loooong gone!!

      Cheers!

      [hic]

    • SM says:

      12:26pm | 19/11/10

      @ Aitch B

      funny you mention Bill Hunter - used to see him regularly at the Tea Gardens in Bondi Junction about 15 years ago.  A mate of mine was an aspiring actor at the time and we used to sit with him for hours. Happend to run into Bill about 2 weeks ago down at that pub on the corner of George and Liverpool, where the guys sits out the front balancing a guitar on his head

    • Aitch B says:

      01:28pm | 19/11/10

      @SM

      Last time I saw Bill was at Mildura airport….. probably more that 20 years ago. He was on his way back to Melbourne after filming a BHP ad in Broken Hill.

      I’m pretty sure he’s backed off a bit on the booze these days…... his liver must just about be wrecked!!

    • Shane says:

      02:28pm | 19/11/10

      I love pubs, but in Brisbane the best part of every pub (the outdoors parts, balconies, verandahs, anywhere with fresh air and a bit of sunlight) somehow became the smoking area under th new smoking laws.

      These area’s seem to have the most tables, but you can’t eat there. They have the freshest air but it’s being tainted by cigarette smoke, and the have the best view but I can’t enjoy it through all the haze.

      I wish they’d ban smoking altogether and give us bck our beer gardens!

    • Macca says:

      06:35am | 19/11/10

      Re: No.7. I was at the Glenmore on a pub crawl last Saturday (the pub in the picture above), arrived there about 4pm. Couldn’t even get to the bar, let alone grab a seat.

      Yes, Pubs are wonderful, but only when they are less than 70% capacity.

      And for all those Sydney siders, or anyone just visiting. Our pub crawl was as follows

      The Lord Nelson Brewery
      The Hero of Waterloo
      The Glenmore
      The Australian
      Argyle
      Lowenbrau

      What a day!

    • Kebabpete says:

      07:59am | 19/11/10

      Thanks Macca, I’m new to Sydney and you just saved me hours of research. Needless to say I’ll now spend those hours at the pubs in your list above. Cheers!!

    • Macca says:

      08:24am | 19/11/10

      @Kebabpete, The Australian does a mean Pizza if you’re looking for a feed.
      The Glenmore is a rubbish pub except it has a rooftop bar overlooking the Opera House, which makes it pretty good.
      Hero of Waterloo is an old Heritage pub
      Lord Nelson Brewery provides a great excuse to sample a dozen beers on a sunday.
      Argyle is only listed because it was on our route, a bit like The Clock, used to be nice, but a bit pretentious on a sat night.
      Lowenbrau serves beer by the litre.

    • MAAAAate says:

      08:32am | 19/11/10

      Don’t forget Harts (in the Rocks) and the Local Taphouse ( in Darlinghurst.) both are true togreat pub form AND they stock real (craft) beer, not the commercial swill from CUB etc!

    • Punters Pal says:

      08:47am | 19/11/10

      Another alternate pub crawl at the Rocks is as follows:
      Fortune of War
      Orient
      Lord Nelson
      Hero of Waterloo
      Harbourview
      Mercantile
      Observer

      It is best to kick off around 5pm on Sunday, so your reach the Merc by 9pm to watch the band. Sunday is much nicer day for pub crawl, as there are not many Westie bogans about, mostly locals.

    • Poida says:

      08:53am | 19/11/10

      Totally agree, the Australian does a mean thai croc pizza.
      For anyone who’s stuck down the dodgy end of town, near Central, The Macquarie Hotel do Schwartz beer at proper pub (not bar) prices. Awesome, just awesome!

    • Macca says:

      09:52am | 19/11/10

      @Punters Pal, that is an excellent pub crawl except it has The Orient. Other than that, well played sir. I’m also a big fan of the early Sunday start, first beer at 11, lunch at 1. Done and very dusty at 6.

      @Poida, Good call, i’ll be sure to check it.

      The Australian Youth Hotel in Glebe is also a wonderful inner city pub, however it has a fancy restaurant so it loses points.

    • Hayles says:

      12:13pm | 19/11/10

      BEST EVER!

    • Dunc says:

      03:27pm | 19/11/10

      best pub crawl suburb in sydney would have to be newtown…
      the king street run is
      Sydney park hotel
      Botany View Hotel
      Union Hotel
      Sandringham Hotel
      Town Hall
      Bank Hotel
      Zanzibar
      Kelly’s on King
      Coopers Arms
      Kuleto’s
      Marlborough Hotel
      the longest stretch without a beer would be from the union to the sandringham, and thats only 2 and a half blocks, after that its pretty much just crossing King street to the next watering hole…

    • Sara says:

      01:05pm | 20/11/10

      I was also at the Glenmore last Saturday, but only for one drink, my mate went to buy beers and the staff were so rude to him that we left after those drinks. He said “the staff were wankers and acting like they belonged in a nightclub”. Another friend asked a girl at the bar if they had an ATM. Rather than answering her, she gave my friend a dirty look and pointed to the ATM as though my friend was an idiot.

      Our pub crawl consisted of:
      Harbourview Hotel
      The Glenmore
      The Australian
      The Orient (out back)
      Lowenbrau

    • James says:

      07:23am | 19/11/10

      You forgot the real point 1.

      1. You don’t have to put up with boofhead security guys and stuck up door staff

      2. Drinks are cheaper

      etc

    • Adrian says:

      11:32am | 19/11/10

      100%!
      Actually…. 120%!!!!

      I didn’t know security staff were allowed to smile (unless they were talking to a pretty girl or a footy player) until my early 20s when I went to have a drink somewhere that wasn’t a nightclub!

    • Sara says:

      01:08pm | 20/11/10

      I had a boucer at the Town Hall Hotel in Balmainopen the door for me last night, what a champion!

    • hugh says:

      07:28am | 19/11/10

      chicken parma’s

    • T.Chong says:

      07:28am | 19/11/10

      11) A decent feed - counter meal or the bistro / beer garden.
      agree lucy , the egalitarian pub is the way to go, and they dont have to be the neanderthal red necked places of violence that Sen. Ron Boswell so wistfully longs for.
      The view in the pix is a good one, but not as good as the view of the Warrumbungles from the Tooraweenah. or the norfolk pines and Horshoe Beach from The SeaBreeze at South West Rocks.

    • kev the redneck says:

      12:56pm | 20/11/10

      Whta’s wrong with rednecks? At least we don’t vote Green or approve of homosexual marriage

    • Chris says:

      07:30am | 19/11/10

      Nothing beats a good pub band playing golden oldies like The Angels and Choirboys etc.

    • T.Chong says:

      09:47am | 19/11/10

      Chris, check the gig guide. Most of the original Angels, Mentals, Choirboys, and others, are still playing, doing the regionals , then heading for the cities.
      Am I Ever ( live version , of course) should be the national anthem.

    • Satori says:

      07:52am | 19/11/10

      The only reason you go to bars instead of pubs is because there are hotter women there.

      Places like Ivy and Establishments are overcrowded, overpriced, overhyped and the generic house music that some DJ is playing is so loud you can’t here anyone talk.

      But women seem to like it so you go there because Jackson’s, Angel, Imperial et al don’t bring the talent in.

    • joseph says:

      11:59am | 19/11/10

      Exactly!
      Women are to blame.

    • Reg says:

      11:20am | 20/11/10

      One of the advantages of age is that the beer holds a lot more appeal than the women do. Unless they’re exquisite conversationalists of course and they usually are. A lot better than the guys anyway. It’s probably the same advantage the gay guy have, the women are not worried about you trying to get into their knickers.

      Those pub crawls sound very attractive as well. Wish I’d known of them years ago.

    • ibast says:

      08:07am | 19/11/10

      It doesn’t change the fact there are still some really bad pubs out there. Pokkies, TABS, bad bistro food and bad beer selections still constitute most pubs in Australia.

    • Peter says:

      02:55pm | 19/11/10

      Yep. Pokies have destroyed good pubs that’s for sure…

    • Gav says:

      08:11am | 19/11/10

      9 am in the morning and you’re already making me wish I was at the Pub

      TGIF

    • Tails says:

      08:17am | 19/11/10

      Completely agree except for one thing.
      I’d prefer a Bar Tab over a Pub Tab anyday though…

    • Damien says:

      08:17am | 19/11/10

      The Brooklyn doesn’t have a problem on Friday nights, with all the Deloitte/JP Morgan, Blake Dawson and Norton Rose people coming from Grosvenor place. Its always packed. Its the other nights of the week, and particularly the party nights of (late) Friday and Saturday that it struggles. around 10pm each Friday night it turns into ‘Shanghai nights’, an asian-themed disco. It’s about the time that everyone clears out as well strangely enough..

    • GingerKitty says:

      01:58pm | 19/11/10

      Why on earth would you want to be anywhere that is full of people from DELOITTE?
      I would much rather go home and watch TV

    • Sara says:

      01:12pm | 20/11/10

      You couldn’t pay me to go to the Brooklyn. A few years back on NYE I stood in line for 15 minutes (with 4 people in front of me). Got to the front of the line (sober, well dressed) and was excessively scanned with the metal detector. I could then see that the place was practically empty and was asked to pay $35 entry. No thanks. Went somewhere else instead. I’ll pay entry occasionally, but not to a shithole with bad music

    • Kebabpete says:

      08:20am | 19/11/10

      Lucy, just when I thought I couldnt love you anymore you come up with this little gem. Its like you were reading my freakin’ mind! Why do I need to wear a suit and order an overpriced imported beer to look as though I fit in? This is Oz, supposedly the most laid back country in the world. I should be able to stand beside anyone at the bar in my t-shirt, jeans and volleys, and order a schooner of New, or any other refreshing local amber nectar, without being made to feel like a bogan. So what if I don’t like low carb beer, you drink it pal, that leaves more of the good stuff for me!

      You did forget 1 important point though, and it probably somes up all 10 points… ATMOSPHERE! That little thing it gives off to let you know your somewhere great without even having to look around.

      So called “trendy bars” are to blame for ruining everything!! Why does a pool table with a pink felt cost so much more than that of a green felt? Didn’t we used to pay $1 a game when they were all just green?

    • Cate says:

      08:36am | 19/11/10

      ummm agreewith you except for the “NEW” bit… all the CUB/LN swill is just plain sad…. do yourself a favour mate and have some REAL Australian beer like Stone and Wood, Bridge Road, Murrrays - all available easily in Sydney at non-aligned fantastic PUBS like Harts, The Taphouse etc .. you won’t feel like a bogan at all and you’ll be drinking better beer than the imported stuff

    • AdamC says:

      08:32am | 19/11/10

      I like the pub, but I like a good bar too. I agree that there will always be that special place in the Aussie drinker’s heart for the beer-garden - possibly the best concept to come out of Germany, like, ever?

      As a Melburnian, I was really disappointed with the Ivy. Expecting some kind of pretentious paradise full of Sydney glamazons, it was actually a pretty tawdry and messy place. And far too large.

    • BK says:

      08:41am | 19/11/10

      Next, can we take aim at gyms that pretend to be nightclubs?

    • WH says:

      08:59am | 19/11/10

      Anyone know where is the location of the Pub that displayed the image above? And what is the name of it? Thanks.. It looks like a nice place to hang out on weekends

    • Punters Pal says:

      09:36am | 19/11/10

      Glenmore Hotel, Cumberland St, The Rocks

      To be honest with you, The Australian Hotel next door is probably better pub, but you cannot beat the view.

    • Macca says:

      09:55am | 19/11/10

      @WH, It’s a pretty rubbish pub, but it just has a wonderful view.

      @Punters Pal is on the Money, The Australian is a much better pub, as is almost any number of those listed in the Pub Crawl lists above.

    • Jimmy says:

      08:59am | 19/11/10

      I live in country SA so I don’t have the choice of going to a bar. A bloody good thing that is too! My town has two pubs and I love them both. People from the city ask me if i get sick of going to the same place most weekends. I just smile and explain that they don’t know what they’re missing out on. My pubs are community hubs where you get to catch up with your mates and what they’ve been up to. On my occassional trip to the big smoke finding a good pub is really hard but not impossible. I find the main problem with bars are not the bars themselves but the tattooed, tight-shirted, hairgelled wankers that frequent them. For any people from country SA loooking for a decent pub in Adelaide the Wellington Hotel on Welly Square is a beauty it has 40 different beers on tap, good food, Pool table, Darts, Good Jukebox and TAB.

    • Pete says:

      09:03am | 19/11/10

      After a week of being surrounded by people at work, the last thing I want is to be surrounded by people on a friday night. That’s me time. Give me a nice quiet spot out of the way any day.

    • POIDA says:

      09:03am | 19/11/10

      Totally love the relaxed atmosphere that a pub can offer. And remember in real dives those little kitchens that open up on the side and offer 3 choices, steak sanga, burger, or chips? That and a few games of pool are the perfect way to bludge TAFE.
      I think the best thing ever is a beergarden, especially one with a view, like Newport Arms, The Glenmore (pictured) or Doyles Pub @ Watsons Bay.
      Also totally agree with Cate. There are plenty of great microbrewerys opening up and appearing at taps all over sydney - do yourself and them a favour, and branch away from your usual VB, New, Draught or TED. Although once I got labelled a poof for buying a round of them.

    • biscuit says:

      09:10am | 19/11/10

      I disagree. Half the fun of going out is getting all dressed up and being in a glamarous fantasy land. If I want to just hang out with my mates and drink beer in daggy clothes I can do that at home, at least I won’t have to put up with drunk obnoxious bogans and the smell of stale beer…

    • lance boyels of bayswater says:

      11:41am | 20/11/10

      each to there own biccy i spent years going to work in a suite and tie my motto has always been if i cant get in with jeans tshirt and joggers i aint interested in being in there

    • TheBigMicka says:

      09:12am | 19/11/10

      Is the beer cold?  Is there sport on a large TV?  Is there a TAB during the day and evening?  Is there 2 guys playing instrumental covers at nights and on Sunday afternoons?  Are your mates there?  Is one of your mates trying to weasel out of his shout by switching to wine or something colourful?  Can you get something solid to eat for less than $14?

      If you answered yes to all those questions then you are undoubtedly in a good pub.

    • Markus says:

      10:19am | 19/11/10

      In Canberra sadly this isn’t the case. If you have answered yes to all those questions you are likely in a club - a mass produced version of the local RSL or bowls club.
      Yes the beer’s cheap (subsidised by the huge pokie intakes) and there are plenty of places to sit down, watch sport and put bets down, but it’s just not the same.
      It’s just too…sterile? Like everything else in Canberra though I suppose, so it fits in well.

    • KJ_Storm says:

      12:05pm | 19/11/10

      @marcus Your obviously not going to the right pubs. Now I do live over the boarder in Queanbeyan but I have found the Fyshwick Tavern to be a nice place (looks kinda dingy but everyone is really nice, like super nice (I actually wonder whats wrong with them!!!)). Also the Top Pub in Queanbeyan very good atmosphere.

    • archetype says:

      01:57pm | 19/11/10

      @Markus, try the Transit Bar in Civic. Yes, its a bar, but definately more pubby and laid back than most. Decent prices, incredible pizzas and nachos, and a couple of pool tables. And places to sit. Afternoons are usually good pub music too smile also has a beer garden out front!

    • Markus says:

      02:59pm | 19/11/10

      @archetype Transit is my mainstay on any weekend I can be bothered going to Civic. One of the few places in Canberra that still play live (non-cover) bands.
      That or the Wig and Pen. Pricey, but good food and great brewed beer.

      @KJ I haven’t been back to Top Pub since I got dragged to Level One ‘nightclub’ upstairs a few years back. I’m not sure I can bring myself to trust the place again!

    • Johnny says:

      09:13am | 19/11/10

      Pubs that still have that pub feel are great.  Though they seem to have sold out to pokies some time ago.

    • Castro says:

      09:27am | 19/11/10

      Here we go!  Here come the beer wankers again!  “Don’t drink any CUB swill (ie normal popular beer), only drink $8.50 shmiddies that pass the test of never being heard of before, or else!”

      Isn’t it funny to hear these people decrying ‘bogans’ and mass produced beer on the one hand, but moaning the rise of elitist bars on the other hand?  It reminds me of the description Pembo gave of SMH-types on Media Watch.  They are socialists who hate poor people.

      These people wouldn’t know a real pub; if they carried on with this ‘bogan/mass produced swill’ crap in a normal pub they would probably get a smack in the mouth.

      I have found that in order to escape these snobs I have retreated to a bowling club and a ex-servicemen’s club in my local area.  The decor, prices, and people all seem about twenty years out of date and it’s great.  And they even have Resch’s on tap, which I enjoy as a change from my usual VB/Carlton.  Can’t wait for a bellyful of mass produced swill tonight!

      P.S. To be fair, I am married so I don’t have to go out trying to chase girls anymore.  I don’t begrudge those who have to act trendy etc in order to do so.  We’ve all been there.  Unfortunately, when you revert back to normal, your wife complains that ‘you’ve changed’!  C’est la vie.

    • Jordan Rastrick says:

      01:27pm | 19/11/10

      Its possible to not like the taste of Rechs/VB/Carlton and also hate ridiculous $8.50 schmidies in overpriced, pretentious bars.

      I normally drink Coopers Green, by the pint where I can get it; Kilkenny’s if I’m at an Irish pub; Toohey’s Old if I’m somewhere that doesn’t have Coopers (typically a club) or sometimes just if I’m in the mood; and mix it up from time to time with other beers, including occasionally some fancy ones if I have a bit of extra cash to splash around.

      If that makes me a wanker, well frankly, I don’t give a shit.

    • Scarfy says:

      09:27am | 19/11/10

      Two pubs in Sydney bear my unwavering seal of approval. One is the Lord Nelson in the Rocks. The beer is excellent, the food is good, and it is in a great spot. The other is the Local Taphouse in Darlinghurst. With a rotating menu of 20 beers on tap, and many more hard to find beers in the bottle it is a pre-eminent watering hole. The food is excellent, the atmosphere is great, and they have special international beer tasting events with great choices. A top notch little spot.

    • you've missed the point says:

      12:38am | 21/11/10

      any pool tables?

    • Bee says:

      09:30am | 19/11/10

      Chicken Schnitzels at the White Cockatoo are the best, big servings and cheap!

      and

      The steaks at The Southen Cross - best pub steaks I’ve ever had!

    • Levi says:

      09:36am | 19/11/10

      unless you live in WA, in which case beers are never cheap.

    • The Badger says:

      10:25am | 19/11/10

      At least they don’t have pokies

    • Alexandra says:

      11:43am | 19/11/10

      And you always have to wear a cocktail dress - even to the pub!  Have you been to the Botanica on a Sunday afternoon??

    • The Badger says:

      12:39pm | 19/11/10

      Alexandra
      Don’t be such a slave to fashion

    • Alexandra says:

      01:44pm | 19/11/10

      No, no, no, The Badger, you misunderstand - I do not subscirbe to such ludicrous behaviour, give me jeans and a top any day of the week.  Unless of course it’s wedding or some other “to do”

    • The Badger says:

      03:55pm | 19/11/10

      My apologies dear lady

      You would seem to be my kind of woman.

      Only men who are not interested in women are interested in women`s clothes. Men who like women never notice what they wear.
      Anatole France

    • Peter says:

      09:41am | 19/11/10

      Shhhh. Don’t tell my employer. We get documents telling us what kind of LIGHT beer we should be drinking.. Keep it quiet. I could get into trouble!

      Adults are being treated like kids these days and i have had enough!

    • Glug says:

      09:48am | 19/11/10

      10 reasons why my drug dealer is better than your drug dealer.

    • AdamC says:

      10:14am | 19/11/10

      Glug, I don’t want to alarm you, but I think you may be a wowser.

    • T.Chong says:

      10:20am | 19/11/10

      Glug, still waiting dude. Hope you provide links !

    • Glug2 says:

      01:36pm | 19/11/10

      Hey AdamC, nice ad hominem rebuttal. Try again.

      Alcohol is a drug. People drink beer because it has alcohol in it. There’s no way you would drink 5 litres of anything in an evening unless it had alcohol in it. The bar/pub is made to draw you in and take your money.  The bar manager will turf you out if you are unprofitable - they are not your friend and you are not theirs.

      T.Chong: I was offering this as an alternative title, not a future article. Sorry for the confusion. (Tommy Chong, is that you? How’s Cheech, man.)

    • NicoleG says:

      01:57pm | 19/11/10

      @Glug, lame. Now how many times do you think Chonggy’s heard that? Now, where’s me beer gone?

    • Michael says:

      03:12pm | 19/11/10

      Reading this conversation is exactly the reason I drink 5L of drug on a Friday.

    • AdamC says:

      03:53pm | 19/11/10

      Glug2, you are quite priceless.

      A priceless wowser, but priceless nonetheless.

      I’ll have a drink in your honour this evening, OK. 

      (And, just to clarify, I wasn’t attacking, or even rebutting, you - I was lampooning you. You seem to be taking things rather a little too seriously.)

    • glug says:

      07:00am | 20/11/10

      AdamC, I think that “lampooning” involves satire. Saying “I think you’re a wowser” isn’t satirical.

      In any event, attempting to insult me with “wowser” is pretty lame.

      Am I taking things too seriously? Nope, I’m just sick of seeing this country drink itself to death. So much money gets thrown at The War On Drugs (cue: scary music) but booze gets a free pass and, in some cases, government help.

    • Fred says:

      09:51am | 19/11/10

      I have the best watering hole in Sydney for a Friday night -  I have a bar in my house.

      The drinks are ridiculously cheap (All Grain homebrew on tap), the music is awesome (because im the DJ) and the company is even better (just the missus and my mates).

    • Not Happy Dave says:

      09:51am | 19/11/10

      I will never go to the BROOKLYN HOTEL in George st Sydney ever again.On a recent night out we were verbally abused by some black shirted ,monkey brained security staff for accidently entering by the wrong entry.When we challenged him in regard to his manner towards us he, refused us entry and told us to P%^*  off! Charming, we hadn’t not been drinking and the place as just about empty.When we ask to see the manager he threatened to call the police on us and added that “the local licensing police would always take his side”.Hello? The police would be called because we didn’t see some ratty rope in front of some doorway? The Manager did come and turned out to be some kid clearly intimidated by the security. Good on you Brooklyn Hotel.

    • Monkey Man says:

      11:11am | 19/11/10

      Deary me, I seemed to accidently skip past reading “shirted”.

    • Adrian says:

      12:04pm | 19/11/10

      Did anyone else notice the double negative?
      “We hadn’t NOT been drinking…” (ie; we were rat-arsed!)

      But yeah I think we can all agree that wanker security guards can often overestimate their own importance.

    • Thomas says:

      03:13pm | 19/11/10

      At the moment i enforce licensing and in some cases bring legal action on pubs. The conditions placed on them include only having entry points at specific locations noted on their license or consent or whatever, so they would get in trouble if there was a compliance officer around.
      But yeh your right security are always rude. Last year when i was 21 I complained after i was ripped off for entry by the doorman at St James Hotel and had 6 of them surround me, call me a homosexual (im not) and threaten to bash me. Got my money back in the end luckily. Some places just cant control the behaviour of their security staff.

    • School Iron says:

      02:32pm | 20/11/10

      Any place with bouncers standing out the front is a giant turn off for me and a sign the place is not worth it.We seem to have more violence these days inspite of increased security ( not that some obese jibberer in a fluro vest and a black shirt makes me feel any safer) .How do all the idiots get in to the bar in the first place? Before pubs become pokie palaces it was usually the barman and the licensee who would chuck out any fools.I think maybe its the new generations who’ve never been told no at school and when they enter the adult world they spit the dummy and turn it on when they don’t get their own way.

    • Hamish says:

      09:52am | 19/11/10

      Perhaps this is why Newcastle made the top 10 list for cities to visit. They don’t know what a bar is!

    • Dazza1985 says:

      08:18pm | 19/11/10

      You’ve got to be kidding! We’ve lost most of our pubs.
      They’ve either gone bust because of licensing restrictions or have been renovated to up the wank factor. There is one little gem left though The Seven Seas in Carrington.
      Though the truth is I am happy anywhere that has Tooheys Old on tap and a meat raffle.

    • Zeta says:

      10:06am | 19/11/10

      The Gladstone Hotel, Chippendale. Best pub in the universe. It’s roughly the size of a small public housing flat, filthy, with the pokies tucked demurely in a corner out of sight. The pool table is crooked and favours the left corner pocket. You’re always one ball short. The kitchen was run by an Indian couple who made the best damn chicken schnitzel in Sydney, and knew I liked mine without salad. The ‘beer garden’ resembles a first generation Greek immigrant’s backyard. All concrete, home made out door furniture, jury rigged guttering, and no right angles.

      On Tuesday, they inexplicably had a reggae band. On Friday, hipsters descend for Purple Sneakers, a trashy night out hosted by trashy trash bags with ironic DJs. The Bouncers hammer wooden boards over the windows to darken the main bar, and every week they smash open a brick wall into a garage to expand capacity, then mysteriously brick it back over again.

      Every good pub must have an old timer who perpetually props up the bar. At the Gladstone, it’s either Bill or Bob because he never gives the same name twice. He claims to have been a former Daily Mirror snapper from before News Ltd. bought the Telegraph. He pretty scattered, like any brave soul who fought on the front lines of tabloid journalism should be, and since that part of his story never changes I’m reasonably sure it’s true. He’ll give you some great history about Chippendale for the price of a schooner, just make sure he’s staggered back to his room before 9 or things get messy.

      The Gladstone isn’t for dabblers and dilletants. It’s for serious drinkers. Many a University Sydney student has stumbled passed, poked their head in the door, and swiftly withdrawn it. Something about that pub screams ‘bad news’, it’s not inviting, it’s not welcoming, it’s like a dysfunctional relationship you keep coming back for more of.

      I’ve moved away from Chippendale now, and I drink at the more sedate Australian Youth Hotel or the Friend in Hand with friends. But when I’ve got a lonely brood on, I hike it back up to the Gladstone, where no one gives a damn what your name is so long as you shut up and keep your feelings to yourself, comrade.

    • Macca says:

      10:40am | 19/11/10

      @Zeta, I may have seen you out at the AYH, an absolutely wonderful Sydney Pub. By the fire on a wet Sunday, no place I’d rather be. Plus they have board games! Drunken Jenga, excellent

    • Fred says:

      01:55pm | 19/11/10

      They turned the Gladstone into a strip club a couple of years ago. I walked in and suddenly found there was a small stage in the corner with a chrome pole in the center and a disco ball mounted into the ceiling!

      Anyway that obviously didnt turn out so well because it’s since been changed back to an ordinary stinky pub again.

    • Balmain Hopper says:

      10:10am | 19/11/10

      11. Your change gets handed to you in your hand, not on a tip plate!
      & 12. Bands, Trivia Nights and Communal Footy Tipping Comps.

      Don’t forget Balmain!

      The Town Hall
      The London
      The Riverview
      The Dry Dock
      The Royal Oak
      Dicks Hotel
      The Welcome Hotel
      The Exchange
      The Monkey Bar

    • Punters Pal says:

      10:23am | 19/11/10

      Balmain Hopper, I would also add Sir William Wallace to the list - great little pub.

      Although some are yuppified, there is still an excellent pub crawl to be done in Paddington:

      The Lord Dudley
      Bellevue Hotel
      Four in Hand
      Paddington Green
      Imperial
      Paddington Inn
      London Tavern
      Windsor Castle
      The Light Brigade

    • Macca says:

      10:44am | 19/11/10

      @Punters Pal, well played on William Wallace as well, excellent pub

      I have just screen shot the screen as my next two warm saturdays are already taken care of. Although Balmain can be a stretch as public transport access is somewhat limited.

    • Punters Pal says:

      11:37am | 19/11/10

      @ Macca - best way to start Balmain pub crawl is to get the ferry from Circular Quay and either get off at Balmain East and start Commerical -> London -> Unity Hall or get off at Balmain and start at Dry Dock -> Sir William Wallace -> Riverview.

      Have a good time, mate.

      Good luck

    • Macca says:

      12:13pm | 19/11/10

      @Punters Pal, you truly are a God amongst Men. I tip my hat to you, good sir

    • hot tub political machine says:

      10:15am | 19/11/10

      Ten reasons why your home or a friend’s beats a pub or a bar

      1)  Drinks are cheaper – and better. For about the cost of one Friday night in the town you can buy a bottle of single malt whisky – nuff said
      2)  You can be noisy and everyone in the room can join in the conversation – they will all be people you enjoy
      3)  You can relax——-really really relax, you can even fall asleep if you want to
      4)  You can play whatever your favourite game is
      5)  The people getting you drinks aren’t paid at all – they are just being nice because they love you
      6)  The chips are better and you can make some awesome super tasty nachos or Pizza
      7)  You can sit down, lie down on nice couches, sun chairs ect
      8)  You can make a quick escape or you can stay the night
      9)  You can smoke - often it has to be outside but yeah you can smoke if that’s your thing
      10)  You can sit outside, there are few things better than your mate’s porch or deck anytime its warm enough to be outside

    • AFR says:

      03:02pm | 19/11/10

      And the hot totty?

    • Nick says:

      03:11pm | 19/11/10

      You can’t make a quick early morning getaway from your own house after waking up to some middledaged bird you met the night before.

    • laural says:

      10:37am | 19/11/10

      No-one mentioned the Hollywood? The place has soul in spades.

      That said, I don’t think you have to be dressed up to the nines to go to a bar these days unless you’re referring to the Ivys and Establishments of the world. 

      Sydney is fast witnessing the rise of a variety of bars that are beyond the definition Lucy refers to above and its brilliant.  Anything that moves the city past the beer barns and tacky nightclubs that have plagued this city so long is a move in the right direction.

    • Jordan Rastrick says:

      01:37pm | 19/11/10

      I specifically chose not to mention the Hollywood, precisely because its my favourite pub in the CBD and I don’t wanna see it getting too crowded. But maybe I’m just a selfish git.

    • S.L says:

      10:37am | 19/11/10

      With the purse strings tightening I rarely go into pubs now. With a schooner of Tooheys the same price as a longneck (2 x schooners worth) from the bottlo if I’m just after a drink I’ll have a longie at home!

    • Tom says:

      01:02pm | 19/11/10

      Journo’s never tell the whole truth, those pubs/bars facing financial ruin are all owned by the one company & have been on the market for sale for over a year & a half !!!!!!

    • NicoleG says:

      01:16pm | 19/11/10

      I used to live in a little place called Yambuna and the local pub was about 10ks away in Tongala. Not much to look at, really basic, but God I loved it. Good atmosphere and great publicans. And I still can’t find a steak anywhere that beats theirs. The chef is a genius. And he’s bloody funny. But really, any pub will do me. I love the pub!

    • Dr. Reschs says:

      01:45pm | 19/11/10

      I’m loving living up the road from the Harold Park Hotel, Glebe.
      The epitome of a great local pub: great staff, dozen-or-so craft beers on tap and good ol’ fashioned pub grub.

    • Damocles says:

      01:48pm | 19/11/10

      I miss the old Story Bridge Hotel in Brisbane, before it became all gentrified. “Ghost of Story Bridge Hotel Past” could take you back in time where you could have a raging Friday and Saturday night, listening to a hot, loud blues band; throwing down a few beers with some shots of tequila, whilst enjoying a smoke. Squelching your way through the beer sodden carpet to the toilets and having something to read on the wall while having a lengthy slash. Getting stuck into a fiery, mountainous plate of nachos for $7. Watching some drunken patrons thump out their grievances in the carpark. Chatting up some sexy Swedish backpackers that stayed at the hostel. Catching up with mates at the annual Beer Festival or Cockroach Races. Admiring the many Harleys parked outside while their riders are inside wetting their whistle and having a game of pool. Ah, those were the days! It’s all gone now! The yuppies have moved into their inner city digs and killed it! The live, loud blues bands have been replaced with the MTV thumping dirge with screens everywhere and a casual drink feels more like entering a high security danger zone where FBI like agents cast suspicious glares at everyone , whisper conspiratorially into their radios and stand watchdog over all who dare enter! Ah, it’s not for me! I’ll stay home, drink my home brew with my friends, have blues music playing, (unfortunately not live), without the fun police misjudging everything and everyone! Bars are appropriately named because it feels exactly like being in a heavily guarded institution! Bring back the good old pub!!

    • K Milo says:

      01:53pm | 19/11/10

      The Yandaran Pub in Wide Bay, Qld, north of Bundy. The urinal has a grab bar positioned above it for the balance-impaired. Classic. Plus, the juke box has a couple of Capt Sensible songs on it. And the rum is fresh.

    • Nick says:

      01:58pm | 19/11/10

      The Hilton Hotel before the refurb had The George Adams, The Mable Bar, The Americas Cup bar, The Henry 9th Bar and Julianas night club all in one maze like complex..After the make over they all vanished , except the Marble bar.They even tried to call the new short lived George Adams Bar the G.A.B bar hello? What were they thinking?

    • Pusser says:

      07:42am | 20/11/10

      GA’s was a good night out in the 80s. I actually met my wife there.

    • ed says:

      01:58pm | 19/11/10

      want a good pub, get your butt to the nelson hotel in bondi junction.

      great old school pub with the tiles, massive round bar, pool, darts and every sport on so many TVS and the bar staff are more than happy to switch over a TV to what you want, turn up the volume basically do anything you want.

      Plus its beers are clean, crisp and cold all served in schooners none of this bloody schmiddy bull***, or a bottle that cost you $10.

      I promise you the nelson will never ever give you your change back on a dish!

    • bigmuzz says:

      02:08pm | 19/11/10

      of the few times i’ve been dragged to sydney (i’m from the south coast) to check out the club scene for people’s birthdays, etc, i have found it a very underwhelming experience… paying big dollars to just get in the door, paying ridiculous amounts for a drink, surrounded by trendy wankers, being forced to listen to god-awful music, etc etc etc…. no thanks!

      give me a humble country pub anyday! pubs are cheaper, less crowded, not full of wankers, have good music, places to sit, pool tables, TAB rooms, and you can go in full bogan uniform of flanno and thongs and still feel dressed up in comparison to other people there….. hmmm, now i’m starting to get thirsty….

      .....TO THE PUB!!!!!!! raspberry

    • Shindy says:

      03:10pm | 19/11/10

      @hot tub political machine et al, I agree with most of you - Pub, Club and Friends. In Willoughby we start at the Brown Dog (Willoughby North Hotel), proceed to Club Dub (Willoughby Legions Club), by this stage we’ve picked up a few friends along the way and we head off to the Lodge (friend’s place), stay the night, head off to the Bridgey (Bridgeview Hotel), wander down to another friend’s whose balcony is well patronised, laugh so hard it’s better than the gym, and subsequently get yelled at by the “Freaky Friday” man upstairs (when he’s not dragging heavy things around upstairs - just quietly, we think he’s an axe murderer). Along the way we’ve either played Trivia, Pool and/or a Jukebox, had a Pub meal, Club meal, microwaved meal if after 2pm, or a BBQ, and/or listened to a band. What’s not to love?

    • Simon says:

      03:46pm | 19/11/10

      I thought a pub was a bar

    • Kika says:

      04:31pm | 19/11/10

      Brisbane is losing all our ‘pubs’. They’re all in this mad rush to become the next inner city hipster cool spot to be seen. What the hell happened to the stock exchange? I remember that places as an unpretentious, stinky, beer drinkers PUB but now it resembles more like Family in the Valley with their cocktails, pretty people and doof doof music. The Victory will always be the Victory. I will keep staying away from it as I always have. But there’s just no decent ‘pubs’ anymore. We do we have to be like Sydney and Melbourne? Why can’t we just be Brisbane?

    • Dianne Ward says:

      09:43am | 21/11/10

      After having had a week in Sydney with it’s wonderful pubs with beergardens I am amazed that here in Brisbane that has such great weather we do not have the beergardens with great food that Sydney has .I think Brisbane has a lot to learn from Sydney with it’s great pubs.
      Long live beergardens with great food ;they are part of our heritage .
      Thank god I am heading back to Sydney early next year for a week ..The Oaks is on the list so is the Manly with a ferry ride thrown in plus a few others

    • John says:

      04:48pm | 19/11/10

      $7.90 steak at the Mosman Duck and a schooner that is 11% larger than normal for significantly less than you pay in the city!!!  Friendly staff and no attitude at all!!

    • David says:

      08:44pm | 19/11/10

      I dunno, here in Melbourne, bars do have one notable edge: the riff-raff stay away. That might make me sound like a snob, but the pubs of the city have obviously had so much trouble with drunk idiots that now, if you sneeze in there, you get kicked out. No such problems at the better bars.

    • Jenni says:

      10:57pm | 19/11/10

      To hell with both pubs AND bars - 10 reasons why my place is better than both.

      #1 the drinks are cheaper (a whole bottle of jacks + mixers + snacks for less than $50 ... your taxi will probably cost more than that)
      #2 no taxi ride from hell with someone who takes advantage of your inebriated state to “get lost” on the way to your home, thus costing twice the proper amount
      #3 no drink driving - that’s a win for EVERYBODY
      #4 no explaining to the other half why you’re home late, cos you never left (though they might have wished that you did ...)
      #5 less distance to walk to the toilet, more chance of it being available, and (hopefully) more chance of it being clean
      #6 the music is better cos you get to choose it yourself ... if your mix consists of Aqua, Spice Girls and Rick Astley, you have nobody to blame but yourself!
      #7 no dealing with loud, obnoxious and drunk strangers (the loud, obnoxious and drunk invited guests are usually a little easier to bear)
      #8 closing time is at your discretion (unless you’re married - more fool you wink
      #9 less distance to stumble to bed (or the couch, or the floor, or ... whatever, right here looks good, thanks)
      #10 when you wake up the next morning wearing no pants, nobody calls the police to report you for public indecency (hey, it only happened once, ok?! don’t you judge me! wink

    • kevin francis says:

      01:04pm | 20/11/10

      That’s pretty good Jenni and you are so right. You could have expanded that to dinner parties at home rather than going out to some overpriced crappy restaurant who tries to poison you. i could write a book on that subject.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      11:21pm | 19/11/10

      You can’t beat a good country pub at least 350Ks from the nearest city (you don’t wan’t some townie try-hard spoiling the atmosphere) good tucker friendly staff & no poncey imported beers

    • Reg says:

      11:35am | 20/11/10

      Sorry Robert, worth travelling the 350k for a Grosser Black or a Kaiser Dark or a Erdinger Dunkel or even a Monteith’s Black instead of a Toohey’s Old. Great with slow cooked corned beef and white onion sauce too. Even NZ makes better beer than Australia, to our perpetual shame.

    • kevin francis says:

      06:30am | 20/11/10

      Any pub is a good pub it’s often the centre point of many small communities,but enjoy them while you can fellow Australian’s beacuse in 100 years time there wont be any pubs or churches remaining in this country

    • two dogs says:

      12:58pm | 20/11/10

      Lots of mosque’s with bars?

    • Ian C. Purdie says:

      08:47am | 20/11/10

      Well in the 1960’s bars as such were just beginning to emerge. Fine if you were out to impress a girl but not somewhere you would go with mates.
      The Grand Hotel in Hunter Street was the preferred venue, does that still exist? They used to serve cheap yet wholesome counter lunches as well.

    • matt says:

      07:29pm | 20/11/10

      Come to Prague and learn what a pub is

    • Neville L says:

      10:00pm | 20/11/10

      I am from Adelaide, i am fifty two and i am a drinker and a smoker who has spent a lot of time in pubs. In Adelaide i used to love the pubs for the good cheap food, beer, friends and facilities. The pokies were intoduced and they really changed everything (mind you the generally relaxing of the liscensing laws had a bit change too).
      Today i do not go to the hotels often. Why? Many smoking mates (i reckon about half of regulars smoked) don’t go regularly any more. The pubs have been done up which on the good side means at last good airconditioning (important in Adelaide) and acceptable toilets. On the negative this can come variously with all the old locals being intimidated away. The pub becoming a pick up joint and no longer welcoming the casual drinker. Trendy hotels where the prices are higher and the meals smaller and more expensive. A cafe type atmosphere which can make a drinker feel like he does not belong there. Feeling stupid because you like Carlton beer, when you have tried some of the new ones and did not like them.

    • Fiat Lux says:

      10:04pm | 20/11/10

      In Queensland there aren’t as a rule , any pubs , just bars , so if one is married , it’s best to stay at home at night . Night comes so boringly early in a State without Daylight Saving . Work all day and your light’s gone .

    • graham says:

      11:21pm | 20/11/10

      OMG, I used to go to the Brooklyn 10+ years ago, even back then ten bucks didn’t buy you much after standing in line for 1/2 hour and listening to Poker Machines. And it really was like most of those points raised. Probably has one exception now, the guys wear more perfume than the dolls.

    • Nicco Dunning says:

      01:01am | 21/11/10

      pubs have way more lower class people, i’ll stick to drinking a bottle of grey goose at home in front of the ps3 thanks

    • Jimmy says:

      03:15am | 21/11/10

      Wait, so if I got this straight, you’re basically saying that pubs are better because the staff are generally uglier, whilst clientele are noisy, poorly dressed, chip-stuffing, lay-about, pool show-offs, who are too drunk are uncoordinated to navigate a staircase! Apart from that, pubs are also better because there are more escape routes because apparently we will not be able to get the #*% out of there quick enough with only one door!

      Hey, I’m partial to a few cheeky pints down at the local, but you’re not exactly selling this! Maybe I really ought to get myself down to the nearest bar where the pretty staff apparently reside alongside active, slim, well-dressed and well-coordinated clientele! raspberry

    • MattDee says:

      08:06am | 21/11/10

      I couldn’t afford to drink at either a pub or a club, they’re both outragiously expensive to drink at. These days I’ll go to the bottelo buy my wine and enjoy the safety and surrounds of my own home.

    • Drew says:

      09:25am | 21/11/10

      I was in Tassi some time ago and I found a great old pub in sandybay called The Doctor Syntax if you ever get down there look it up we had two big days with the locals top spot

    • James says:

      10:41am | 21/11/10

      The Vic park in townsville is the real deal pub. You can still sit at the bar, leave your money and wallet on the bar and you dont even have to ask for a beer because the bar knows your beer and always pours you another one on your last sip. Now thats a pub!! What happened to the punt and pint in Wynyard??

 

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