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Refund after 'horror' flight next to obese woman

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An airline has given a traveller forced to sit next to an overweight woman a full refund. Picture: Flickr user Tobyotter

  • Woman forced to sit next to obese traveller
  • Forced to sit on her hip for entire flight
  • Airline offers full refund, staff training overhaul

AN airline has given a woman a full flight refund and promised to overhaul staff training after she was forced to sit next to an overweight passenger who spilled into half of her seat.

Janet Ogilvie said she was faced with the awkward situation on a Porter Airlines flight from Halifax, Canada to Ottawa on September 5 this year.

Ms Ogilvie said she went to her seat to find an obese woman, who was assigned to a window seat, spilling over into half of her aisle seat, the Ottawa Citizen reports.

She claims the woman's spine was where the middle armrest comes down, and the woman also needed a belt extender to buckle up.

With no other empty seats available, Ms Ogilvie wedged herself into the 25 centimetres that were left of her seat for the one hour and forty-five minute trip.

She said she was essentially sitting on her right hip the entire journey.

"I couldn't put my left shoulder back because she was there... I was pressed up tight against her for the whole flight," Ms Ogilvie said.

Porter Airlines initially refused a refund when she complained about the situation, offering her a $100 credit card voucher instead.

"It was a terribly unpleasant experience, made worse by the fact that Porter is basically saying: 'That's your problem, not ours'.

"I don't think it's my problem that I paid for a seat and Porter gave it away to this other person."

However Ms Oglive continued to protest the situation, eventually winning a full refund of $200.

Porter Airlines Chief Executive Robert Deluce promised her that the airline's crew will be better trained "to proactively assess and immediately attempt to rectify any situation that could lead to what you encountered".

The debate over overweight people and airline seats has raged for years, with a survey by Travel.com.au showing that 70 per cent of Australians believe that the obese should have to buy two seats when flying economy.

While some airlines are forced to give passengers who are disabled by their obesity two seats for the price of one, carriers can refuse to accommodate those who show up at the airport without giving prior notice of their requirements or may put them on another flight.

Australia's main airlines don't force obese people to pay for two seats, despite similar policies being adopted by international air giants United Airlines and Air France-KLM within the last year.

A spokeswoman for Virgin Blue said most overweight people are aware if they don't fit into one seat and will often purchase two seats to ensure their own comfort.

"There is no formal policy, however if a guest does not fit into a seat on a full flight they will be moved to the next available flight,'' she said.

A spokeswoman for Qantas said the airline did everything it could to meet the needs of overweight customers.

"Should a customer require extra space on a flight we seat them next to an empty seat where possible,'' she said.

"However the only way for a customer to guarantee extra space is to either purchase two economy seats or fly business or first class.

"But we have no plans to implement anything that would force them to do so.''

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  • allie of adelaide Posted at 10:14 AM October 29, 2010

    I accept that some obese people have medical issues to blame and feel completely sorry for them and their situation, but lets face facts, the majority don't and quite frankly its down to poor diet and lack of exercise. At the end of the day, sure, lets help accommodate those who have medical conditions, and treat them as handicapped with special seating and all the compassion that is required. But for all the others, buy two seats. Don't take half of the one I paid for. Watch all the obese people now rush out to get some sort of medical certificate. Not sure why they are complaining about buying two seats on a plane, afterall getting that obese from overeating could not have been a cheap exercise. We need to stop pandering around these issues, not just for plane flights, but also for our health system and goodness knows what else these people cause a drain on. I can hear them all now, but its not my fault!! If someone is holding you down and force feeding food into your mouth then please get them arrested for abuse, otherwise, buy two seats! But it seems to me that lots are just making excuses, which is why they are obese in the first place i think.

  • Bruneidaze Posted at 2:04 PM October 28, 2010

    I agree with Melissa. People are different shapes and sizes and airlines have been cramming people into small seats for years. It's all very well for the 'skinnies' to condemn large people - the reality is most large people are very aware of their situation and find it embarrassing enough without being branded as fat lazy pigs. There could be many reasons why people are obese, laziness is quite likely very low on the list. We should be trying to be more pro-active about finding solutions rather than pointing the finger and screaming 'fatty!'

  • Excess luggage personified Posted at 11:14 PM October 27, 2010

    I am a petite 49 kg. I often end up seated next to overweight and obese people spilling over onto me. QANTAS attempted to charge me for 5 kg overweight luggage and I refused to pay for it on the principle that they squeezed me into a seat that I paid for onto a person who was at least 3 times my weight who paid the same price and got 2 seats for the price of 1, ie mine. Overweight and obese people should be made to pay for 2 seats , it's what they take up, and they should also pay an excess weight fee.

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