It’s been a while since I last wrote, things have been kind of slow lately with the lead up to Cataclysm unfortunately.
3v3 Woe is me.
I’ve been playing a lot of RMP these last two weeks, it’s the comp I’ve almost exclusively played all expansion. Nearing the end of last season a lot of people heralded the death of the comp with Spellcleave being so dominant. I personally shrugged those calls off, I figure the better players should win every time in a Spellcleave vs. RMP game. After the last few weeks of queuing, it finally dawned on me. There is nothing I can do to stop myself being globalled after cloak. I shudder to think of the opposing teams’ faces when after 5 minutes of tunneling me they finally get a kill with next to no CC on my teammates, just raw, unhealable damage. It makes me a bit depressed, just a little bit. I’ve seen so many DK’s, Warriors and Rets with Shadowmourne and the damage they do by themselves is incredible, I dread the day we queue into a TSG with double Shadowmourne.
On the note of RMP, Shadowdance seems to work quite well if you have the synergy to pull it off. Switching with dance up is incredible if you time it perfectly with your mage. But heavy armor teams will be the bane of your existence, in these setups you rely so much on peeling for your mage so he/she can free cast that it’s not rare to see longer than 5-10 minute games before you finally land a kill (in my own experience anyway.)
To recap, RMP has been horrible to play recently, I can see it still being viable, but only just. Oh and Cheat Death is still broken.
Early Starters.
A few friends and I have started to play BG’s quite regularly, just a 3 or 4 man group that queues up for Warsong Gulch every now and then, and I must say it has been a refreshing experience, kind of like queuing for 2v2 skirmishes. It reminds me somewhat of the old premades that happened in The Burning Crusade. I wonder how Blizzard are going to implement rated BG’s. Will they have to merge Battlegroups? Will they really be the death of Arena? I have so many questions that are still unanswered, all that’s left to do is wait. Blizzard are gambling here, I can see rated BG’s either being a massive part of WoW or a downright flop that could quite honestly destroy the game itself.
I’m actually quite worried about the expansion as a whole, don’t get me wrong the ideas and thoughts that have gone into making it have been fantastic, I just feel it could be another Wotlk. I remember being excited for Wotlk, the new zones looked incredible, the thought of going back to Naxx and experiencing the bosses tuned for level 80 players made me very nostalgic. All in all I was very, very keen for the expansion to hurry up and be released. Now we all know that Wotlk was not what we expected. Balance issues have plagued the expansion from start to finish, the game is getting a lot more “casual friendly” and there’s just nothing we can do about it. Cataclysm is Blizzard’s last chance to prove to the WoW community that they can make the game as fun as it used to be. I would hate to be a developer, because really, no one who is reading this can tell me they are the same person now as they was a year ago playing The Burning Crusade. WoW’s player-base has changed so dramatically and general “skill” levels of players have increased. The average player wants more, they want to be challenged, could rated BG’s be the answer? Who knows?
I’m going to crawl back into bed now, this flu is actually quite draining. Hope you enjoyed the read!
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All i see from your articles is whining about shit. Its getting pretty old
Comment by Unforgiven — May 16, 2010 @ 11:25 pm
^
+1
Comment by qer — May 16, 2010 @ 11:26 pm
Tbh I’m just bitter because I didn’t get picked to blog.
Good blogs
Comment by Unforgiven — May 16, 2010 @ 11:57 pm
@1. Name One (1) new and exciting thing I can talk about in this game. Problem?
Comment by Seezylol — May 17, 2010 @ 12:26 am
Also in my own defense, read through the full article. You’ll find I talk in a more “positive” light toward BG’s.
Comment by Seezylol — May 17, 2010 @ 12:36 am
<3 haters
Comment by Apollo — May 17, 2010 @ 1:39 am
I love your post really. Really amazing m8 =)
Coming on see:ing that someone agrees with me haha
TSG with double shadowmourne will conquer the world.
Comment by Varmt — May 17, 2010 @ 1:42 am
Well with a class that has gotten gradually weaker and weaker as time went on, can you really help but whine?
Comment by Dcduo — May 17, 2010 @ 2:30 am
HATERS GONNA HATE
is what you shouldda said, Seezy.
Comment by Merenor — May 17, 2010 @ 2:58 am
Have to say I agree on the rated BGs Seezy, will either be the greatest thing ever in the history of PvP or the biggest atrocity for it since season 5. Can’t wait to find out. Good stuff
Comment by Mathris — May 17, 2010 @ 3:41 am
WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE -LOL ON THE END OF THEIR NAME? WOUNDMANLOL SEEZYLOL NIELYOLOLOLOL.
IT’S KIND OF STUPID.
Comment by rofl-lol — May 17, 2010 @ 4:17 am
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2020/1272191126298.jpg
Comment by Seezylol — May 17, 2010 @ 4:30 am
teebs isnt it hard enough to organise a 5v5 every week , wtf blizz! TIMLOL out.
Comment by timmus — May 17, 2010 @ 4:42 am
Every Expansion have been worse for Rogue players. Better for someone else..
Cata will be good for classX and bad for ClassY. Great read article.
Comment by janhus — May 17, 2010 @ 5:27 am
Fuck spellcleave <-
Comment by Castor — May 17, 2010 @ 9:11 am
It is blizzard’s intention to break the hardcore players and make the game more casual. All the people who got their 15 minutes of fame playing their class is not going good in their books. Take eg. Lim Yo Hwan. They want to prevent this from happening again in any of their other games. Instead they want players to adapt and play more classes and roll more of their lives into the game playing more and more and paying more. It is in fact, one of the marketing strategies of MMORPG games.
Comment by Ghost — May 17, 2010 @ 9:39 am
Shadow Dance World PvP Video. Let me know what you think. =)
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=149701
Comment by Flaw — May 17, 2010 @ 10:16 am
Flaw:
I don’t understand why do you cloak so early in the duel against the frost mage. I think you should force the ice block so then when he gets out of it you use cloak to burn him down. Don’t use ShD so early paired with cloak. It was entertaining but I think you could do better.
Just my 2 cents.
Seezy:
Some people just like hating on others, ignore them. Overall good.(Someone could post something about how rogues have changed in play style since vanilla??)
Comment by silencedeath — May 17, 2010 @ 12:42 pm
People moan nothing gets posted here, then people moan about the posts. Seems the bloggers can’t win. It’s either *LOLOLOLOL RECKFUL IS BETTER THEN YOU LOLOLOL* or *Omg stop giving your opinion I don’t care about it but I’ll still read it and then QQ*
I like the update again Seezy, always nice to get another rogues POV on things as for Shadowmourne yus It does make me lol. I did some 2’s with a blood DK for fun and he was hitting over 100k DMG usually with one player dying in the opening KS. They can hit insanely hard. I won’t even start about Unholy and that dam gargoyle
Comment by Warpath2k — May 17, 2010 @ 1:20 pm
Ive faced a couple shadowmourne teams in the las couple days, and I have to agree the dmg output is no way balanced. My priest with over 1300 resil is still getting white crit for 5k+, MS is 6-7K. In one game a shadowmourne warrior put out 300k dmg in 3 minutes. The dmg on shadowmourne ruins every strat you have in place for comps with one. Its near impossible to go offensive because your health is going to get chunked so much faster then theirs and if you spend the entire game peeling, there is no way you can get a kill. I too dread to see double shadowmourne tsg, shadowmournes dmg is the last thing a plate wearing class needed. Buff non 2h wielding class dmg please, enh/rogue imo 0.0
Comment by Phazz — May 17, 2010 @ 3:11 pm
See silly Shorn, Wizards > rogues now shud just reroll a wizard as ur main like I did
. my cloak is down AWWWNOOOFLAMESHOCKLAVABURSTLOLIMDEAD. my block is down AWWWNOFLAMESHOCKLAVABURST JKLOLICEBARRIERFIREWARDLOLTAKE0DMGLOL. Magus and lockie > rogues teebs and I gets mad coolio robe. TIMMUS just get phone number of all ur 5s partners and ringz them like my team did last seasons when it was only bracket we all played lol.
Comment by Spooky — May 17, 2010 @ 4:15 pm
LOVELY BOYS <3
Comment by Spooky — May 17, 2010 @ 4:16 pm
@silencedeath my reason for cloaking that early is to ambush&evis his barrier and then stun as soon as it breaks. If I open with cs he just waits till it breaks and then blinks. You made a good point though. I’m glad you took the time to check it out and I am glad you were entertained. Thanks for your feedback.
Comment by Flaw — May 17, 2010 @ 4:55 pm
I think RMP with sub-arcane-disc (or even holy) could be still very good – the only huge problem with it is the rely on pve gear, at least for the mage..
Btw RLS is still very strong, so even with the current crappy state of the rogue class, the options are up (or at least not fully closed).
Comment by zenton — May 17, 2010 @ 7:40 pm
Shadowdance is better than mutilate already in 5v5 and 3v3, and probably in 2v2 also. No idea why more rogues aren’t playing it. Sitting on one target spamming envenom is such a dumb playstyle and it’s wonder these rogues complain about mobility and survivability when they have so few options. Double wound backstab ShD actually does almost as much sustained dps as mut/prep and WAY more burst.
Just stop fucking whining about everything and play balls to the wall offensive with partners who are awake to switches and you can beat anything as shadowdance.
Comment by kesk — May 17, 2010 @ 8:12 pm
I love Ben so much.
Comment by Seezylol — May 17, 2010 @ 11:15 pm
Kesk makes a good point.
Comment by rofl-lol — May 18, 2010 @ 2:16 am
ShD isnt viable in 2’s (its a dead braket anyway). In 3’s and 5’s. definately fun.
Comment by TrueWan — May 18, 2010 @ 6:59 am
in 2’s ShD is definitely better in every 2dps comp I can think of, especially because invariably the rogue isn’t the main source of damage. Disc Priest/Rogue I actually think ShD is superior also now. The reason the comp is no longer top tier is because the old tactic of tunneling plate wearers with envenom doesn’t work against the new era of DBW, ARP, shadowmournes and ridiculous hasted caster damage. Gotta setup your priest ultra-offensive, use shadowdance very early and unpredictably in matches. Take advantage of restealths for MoS and prem > SnD, the froatloaded damage in a stunlock from shadowdance makes mutilate look weak as fuck especially since envenom is so easy to gay with various immunities.
Comment by kesk — May 18, 2010 @ 7:24 am
WAH.
Comment by Anarchies — May 18, 2010 @ 7:48 am
This website has fallen to caca poo poo
Comment by Derp — May 18, 2010 @ 5:20 pm
rogues have so many extras nowadays
extra pro survivability of the rogue class , no cds = 2 shotted
extra pro damage , a mage surviving full kidney with icebarrier , hpaladins tanking rogues with sacred shield and holy shock only , resi capped disci priest taking rogue eez mode , an rdruid , what to speak , helpless , he can survive 5x the time he needs to kill a rogue with thorns only.
Duel-wise rogues dont dominate any class without prep if equal skill capped both opponents…
i heard rogues are so op now that i felt rerolling
Comment by whiner — May 19, 2010 @ 7:21 am
At least when akrios posted, we knew what we were going to get was a well constructed port, instead of a well constructed QQ.
Comment by lolthissitesucks — May 19, 2010 @ 8:14 am
Rogues do have it hard compared to plate DPS. The more people have access to shadowmourne the more DK teams there will be. They do more damage then warriors and have better cooldowns, there really are no cons for a DK except you are swamped with abilities for every situation.
Yes rogues shouldn’t be able to 100-0 a plate wearer, but you should definitely be able to do it easily using all your cooldowns and you can’t. A DK wouldn’t even bother using a cooldown apart from ice chains and a warrior only has cooldowns so he can’t queue up all his 10k+ hitting attacks every 10 seconds.
Comment by Grief — May 19, 2010 @ 8:32 am
@25: word
snd is the way now, the choiches are up. ofc the class changed a lot, but lol, did not other classes change aswell? I remember whinings about the constant state of a rogue.
Btw duels… Y, rogues cant kill now everything as they could back in vanilla, bc, early-mid wotlk, but hey, what’s about the others? Almost all fun specs are dead (shockadin lol, holypallies now cant kill anything else than rogues and hunters in a duel, restoshammies almost the same, etc).
Btw holypriest > all in duel
Comment by zenton — May 19, 2010 @ 8:33 am
Hahahaha i still read up on wow and espeacialy check up on this site everynow and then, but you guys are the reason why i quit wow lol, not the Author but you tards in the comments, Seriously last time i played wow, i was playing with a bunch of big headed retards that thought there gear was the size of there penis, its a f*cking game, and the man has a point soo haters Shoooo and go get laid byeee
Comment by God! — May 19, 2010 @ 8:38 am
A good read, Seezy. I have high hopes for rated BGs and think that they could bring some of the fun aspects of world pvp back, if only Blizzard can restrain themselves from doing something stupid… WotLK was a failure, but Cataclysm looks far better to me, even if not for the rogue class specifically.
Keep writing
Comment by Carcer — May 19, 2010 @ 3:45 pm
BG hero, i couldnt see myself playing that every week the same old wsg. it would just be a pve hero war again. who has the best prot warrior blah blah blah.
Comment by bravewizard — May 20, 2010 @ 4:13 am
Did Separation finish writing, you guys made him kill himself.
Comment by Tokikonae (Stormreaver,US) — May 20, 2010 @ 9:53 am
@29, you sir have no idea what you’re talking about. Lock/Rogue – Envenom spec. Curse of Elements anyone? SPriest/Rogue – Envenom Mage/Rogue and Rogue/RDruid -Envenom. You don’t need the extra mobility with a mage/druid snaring everything for you.
If you choose to play ShD in 2s, which is horrible, then your counter comps are going to be Plate DPS / Healer and Double Plate DPS.
Comment by Cuzzo, of Cho'gall — May 25, 2010 @ 3:38 am
LOL @ 39
oh and was he wrong, PMR took the championship.
Comment by TrueWan — June 7, 2010 @ 10:17 am
Sry whats Snd again?:>
Im german so…^^
of course i know most of the abilities’ names in english and their (well..another word i dunno xD) shortenings or so?xD its what we would call it in german…i mean the letters that stand for a whole word u know^^
god this prolly sound so retarded..
anyway:What does SnD stand for?;)
Comment by Dúty — June 22, 2010 @ 4:17 pm
slice and dice mate
Comment by tastycupcake — June 23, 2010 @ 2:06 am
oh well..couldve figured that by myselfxD
but anyway ty bro!
Comment by Dúty — June 23, 2010 @ 12:58 pm
2300 double shadowmourne on my BG. steals 20pts from us every time.
Comment by Ezolol — June 30, 2010 @ 2:56 pm