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What We Say Goes: Conversations on US Power in a Changing World

Will there ever again be a public intellectual who commands the attention of so many across the planet? During the Vietnam War, Chomsky’s arguments helped define the responsibilities of the intellectual to society. He has since been an unstinting critic of US foreign policy, exposing in particular the effects of its efforts to oppose socialism in Latin America.

This series of interviews with David Barsamian is a thorough tour of today’s geopolitical horizon. For Chomsky, the greatest threat to civilisation is not global warming, peak oil or terrorism (though these are hardly to be taken lightly) but nuclear war. The Bush administration’s flouting of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and weapons programmes of non-signatories such as India, Pakistan and Israel, have led to instability.

The argument against Chomsky is that, in his eagerness to condemn actions of the US, he lets its enemies off too lightly. His explanation for the rise of Hezbollah in the Middle East suggests this objection can be discounted: Lebanon lacks a deterrent against invasion, and the behaviour of Israel and the US reinforces the notion that such a deterrent is necessary. Chomsky is essentially an anarchist, and his distrust of power is general.

"Chomsky is essentially an

"Chomsky is essentially an anarchist, and his distrust of power is general."
Chomsky called for people to vote for John Kerry in the last election and is calling for people to vote in this election. He has visited Hugo Chavez and given his support to him, and continues to support all kinds of governments just so long as they are "democratic". Chomsky isn't an anarchist, he's a fucking leftist who still believes in government. Howard Zinn claims to be an anarchist too, so maybe all of you anarcho-liberals will eventually start following him too?
"For Chomsky, the greatest threat to civilisation is not global warming, peak oil or terrorism (though these are hardly to be taken lightly) but nuclear war."
Civilization will collapse all on its own as a result of ecological problems if people themselves don't take it down, the biggest threat to this earth right now IS Global Warming, not nuclear war. Once again, Chomsky continues with his ignorance towards environmental issues. He can call himself an anarchist all he wants, just as all of the syndicalists too, but I call bullshit on both!

Would you be less hostile if

Would you be less hostile if the article (and other bullshitters) had said "Chomsky is essentially a particular kind of anarchist"? Seeing as how I have little time for Chomsky or Zinn, I find it slightly amusing that I appear to be defending them, but your emotional sectarianism (deciding who is and isn't one of us) is even more obnoxious. Even though I agree with you, it's still obnoxious.

It has nothing to do with

It has nothing to do with "emotional sectarianism", it has to do with what being an anarchist is about, if you want to say that someone who says that there is nothing inherently wrong with government is an anarchist then you and I have a strong disagreement on what it means to be an anarchist. I find it ridiculous how you people always get all up in arms about bullshit like this, someone is accusing Chomsky, the man who calls for a more just US foreign policy, "more democratization", is a cheerleader for the UN, and other international organizations (although even a support for organizations in general seems a bit contradicting to me considering how organization leads to hierarchy), and as I previously said, he has met with Chavez and given his support for Chavez as well as other leftist politicians, why would an anarchist give support to anyone in a position of power?
I must wonder as to whether you would say that I was exercising my own emotional sectarianism by deciding who is and who isn't an anarchist if someone said that George Bush was an anarchist and I said he wasn't. I wonder if you claim that Marx is not an anarchist, because then you would have to be saying he isn't one of us, which is something you would be against by your own thoughts.

Yeah, I'm not a huge Chomsky

Yeah, I'm not a huge Chomsky fan, and don't agree with his calls wavering here and there on issues of states and electoral politics, but get off your high-horse damn it. Who made you god of the anarchists? Different anarchists have different takes on what is and isn't the biggest threat to this or that. So what?

Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman supported the Soviet Union before they saw the conditions there for themselves. So I guess next you'll be telling us that they weren't anarchist either, your majesty?

I, too, don't agree with

I, too, don't agree with alot of what Chomsky says, but I agree with the last two posters. Here's an appropriate Noam quote:

"No one owns the term "anarchism." It is used for a wide range of different currents of thought and action, varying widely. There are many self-styled anarchists who insist, often with great passion, that theirs is the only right way, and that others do not merit the term (and maybe are criminals of one or another sort). A look at the contemporary anarchist literature, particularly in the West and in intellectual circles (they may not like the term), will quickly show that a large part of it is denunciation of others for their deviations, rather as in the Marxist-Leninist sectarian literature. The ratio of such material to constructive work is depressingly high.

Personally, I have no confidence in my own views about the "right way," and am unimpressed with the confident pronouncements of others, including good friends. I feel that far too little is understood to be able to say very much with any confidence. We can try to formulate our long-term visions, our goals, our ideals; and we can (and should) dedicate ourselves to working on issues of human significance. But the gap between the two is often considerable, and I rarely see any way to bridge it except at a very vague and general level. These qualities of mine (perhaps defects, perhaps not) will show up in the (very brief) responses I will make to your questions."

" Emma Goldman and Alexander

" Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman supported the Soviet Union before they saw the conditions there for themselves. So I guess next you'll be telling us that they weren't anarchist either, your majesty?"
I guess you're going to tell me they are? You have the right to define who is an anarchist, but I don't have the right to define who isn't an anarchist, is that how it is? Anyone who claims to be an anarchist and lends support to any form of domination and hierarchy isn't much of an anarchist in my eyes, maybe I've got my ideas all backwards and you can vote and lend support to Hillary Clinton or Obama and then continue to support them while claiming that you're an anarchist, but you and I both know that's bullshit so don't give me any shit.

Chomsky is simply a

Chomsky is simply a linguistics professor at MIT. He may believe he is something else and others may agree with him and his beliefs, but I personally don't see much of an anarchist in him.

He is the same person who tried to enforce a hierarchical understanding of language to support his own "universal grammar" system. That doesn't sound like someone who has a general distrust of power to me. It does sound like someone trying to concentrate power and marginalize those who don't fit nicely into the system though - namely his system. His work with "formal languages" was useful for the computing sciences... that's some heavy duty direct action anarchy right there, no?

At best, he's a left-wing social critic of the mild socialist persuasion beyond his academic duties of teaching how to organize languages into a neatly contained predictable universalized system.

Can we not just read the

Can we not just read the man's words and take what we can from them. After all he is just a man that has an opinion on lots of things, it just so happens that his ideas get thrown around more than yours or mine. It is still just the opinions of one man, not a sacred text from somebody on high.
ann arky www.radicalglasgow.me.uk

Yeah, and his ideas never go

Yeah, and his ideas never go far enough, and are more political than radical.

Wait, why are computer

Wait, why are computer sciences somehow against anarchist principles?

Hell, this is a webpage. Unless you can parse binary streams, you're taking advantage of computer sciences right now.

Anyway, as far as Chomsky goes... eh! His ideas are what are important. Take the ones you like, leave the ones you don't.

By all means, believe what

By all means, believe what you want you want to about Chomsky and his ideas on anarchy and everything else. I won't stop you, but I may argue against your opinions. You know what they say about opinions... that includes me, you and Chomsky.

Yes, I do take advantage of computers and a whole host of other things that may be contrary to my conception of what anarchy means. I'm not a purist by any means. I also use money which I'm fairly certain everyone who posts here does as well, but does this mean that we support the capitalist system that uses it and the government that tenders it? Quite obviously it does, but what real choice is there in the matter? Firstly, we must live and this is the condition we find ourselves in. We do the best with what we have.

Part of the appeal of anarchy, to me at least, is the absence of a formalized code of what it is and how to regulate/achieve it. To this end, Chomsky does not seem to share this view on multiple issues and it is on these grounds that I have problems terming him an actual "anarchist." Some may like his critiques and find his thoughts helpful in seeing through the banality of everyday life, though.

I will take what I can from

I will take what I can from any opinion I hear, I don't worship the sayer. As for using money/computers etc. well as we all live in a bucket of shit it is hard to keep your hands clean.

ann arky www.radicalglasgow.me.uk

I don't disagree, but I

I don't disagree, but I think we've got to realize that anarchism will never be a cohesive group of people with the same views on everything. The beauty of anarchism is that it doesn't have to be.

I recognize Chomsky as an ally in this fight the same way I see you as one. I probably wouldn't choose the same lifestyle as either of you but that doesn't mean we can't be good neighbors and join together when it suits us. Right now, it suits us. The world is in peril and we just don't have time to mess around.

I'm fairly new to anarchism and as I peruse the various websites and groups in my city, researching the various philosophies I can't help but become disillusioned. So many anarchists I know spend so much time fighting with other anarchists (or other potential allies in the fight against capitalism and authoritarianism) that nothing gets done. Right now I choose to be friends with anyone who stands against suffering and ecological destruction.

Anarchists fighting with

Anarchists fighting with other anarchists is the reason that nothing gets done?! Define getting something done. If you're talking about maintaining infoshops, micropower radio, zines, conferences, and any number of other networking projects, then you're 100% wrong. These things continue despite anarchists fighting with each other. And what's wrong with fighting?

I recognize Chomsky as a

I recognize Chomsky as a supporter of dominating relationships and systems, of an individual which upholds authority every chance he gets only to once in awhile come out and say that he is an anarchist. I recognize him as a supporter of technology which is something which is inherently oppressive and dominating, I recognize him as a supporter of the progress, technology and industrialism which are destroying the natural world. I see him as an apologist for those in power and a supporter of anyone who is in power so long as they are "democratic" (one can look at his essays regarding the Chilean coup in 1973 in which he sympathizes with Allende). I see Chomsky as nothing more than a liberal professor who's critique of capitalism and hierarchy are lacking at best. He certainly doesn't stand against suffering and ecological destruction, he contends that mass society and civilization are good things despite the alienation, suffering, environmental destruction (and don't anyone even question me on this, deforestation, deadspots in the oceans, hundreds of species going extinct a day, global warming, etc, those aren't just select environmental problems that come out of no where, they come because of civilization), oppression, domination, inequality, class systems, slavery, and many other problems that come out of it. He's a huge supporter of industrialism but can't even defend his own viewpoints in a debate with John Zerzan. Fuck Chomsky, he's just another left-wing ideological idiot, and he's only a deterrent to anarchy.

has anyone read Chomsky's

has anyone read Chomsky's embarrassing book 'Inside Lebanon' on the neo-stalinist press Monthly Review? in it is his face-to-face interview with Nasrallah, the leader of the theocratic Islamist political party Hezbollah. Chomsky of course has not a single negative thing to say to him.

fuck Chomsky, he is as worthless as Ramsey Clark, despite wrapping up his typical leftist views in Rudolf Rocker quotes.

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